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Here I am, what could happen if I flash a kernel for another device that may or may not work with the desire z? I mean will I always be able to boot into CWM and restore a nandroid getting everything work as before?
virtualflyer said:
Here I am, what could happen if I flash a kernel for another device that may or may not work with the desire z? I mean will I always be able to boot into CWM and restore a nandroid getting everything work as before?
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Yes but it is always possible that you may accidentally fry your motherboard by accident or even brick your device?
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Sounds bad . How often is this possiblity?
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Sounds bad . How often is this possiblity?
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well it depends. sometimes another devices kernel could mess up the clock settings for your phone as they are not compatible and could accidentally overheat your motherboard. if the kernel you want to use says it has been tested on dz/g2 and works, then it should be fine
It's for a desire hd, it shoulnd't be a problem with the cpu, they're very similar I think
virtualflyer said:
It's for a desire hd, it shoulnd't be a problem with the cpu, they're very similar I think
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As a general rule you never flash anything that wasnt designed specifically for your device. I strongly recommend against this.
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If you are using a kernel for a different device, flash back. If you are thinking of flashing one, hit yourself in the head a few times and then go flash the tons of amazing G2/Desire Z kernels available.
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Just don't flash a kernel not made for the ROM, and especially don't flash a kernel not made for the device. Just don't do it.
No way! Use only kernels for your particular rom.
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I surely wasn't going to use it, but I needed to try it, so I'll give up. Don't think I'm not using a dz kernel or a kernel made for cyano, or I want a kernel for another device, but I needed to try it.
virtualflyer said:
I surely wasn't going to use it, but I needed to try it, so I'll give up. Don't think I'm not using a dz kernel or a kernel made for cyano, or I want a kernel for another device, but I needed to try it.
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Its sounds like what you are saying is "I wasn't going to try it, except I was."
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
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Its sounds like what you are saying is "I wasn't going to try it, except I was."
What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
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Yes, it's a bit like this, just wanted to flash and see what could happen, because of test needings. what I mean is I'm not so crazy that I would daily use a dhd kernel.
Doesn't matter, I won't flash it.
Thanks guys
virtualflyer said:
Yes, it's a bit like this, just wanted to flash and see what could happen, because of test needings. what I mean is I'm not so crazy that I would daily use a dhd kernel.
Doesn't matter, I won't flash it.
Thanks guys
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What kind of testing? Seeing if you can brick your device? lol. Just don't flash the wrong kernel knowingly. Its just dumb lol.
I remember seeing something about the MT4G, Desire HD, and I think one other phone having the same kernel as the G2/DZ. I know Tiamatt's kernel is based of that idea since we do share the same processor.
Not saying it would work but it *might* be possible to flash a kernel from one of those devices and you'd be ok. Since Tiamatt can make one kernel that works for three different devices, I don't see why one of those devices kernels wouldn't work for ours. It would probably break wifi and be buggy as hell but frying the CPU or motherboard seems like a bit of a stretch.
Now flashing a SGSII kernel may mess some things up but then again, you probably wouldn't get it to boot either so hardware wise you'd be ok. You would however, be the new owner of an expensive paper weight.
I don't advocate flashing kernels across devices just for kicks. But I doubt WWIII will explode out of your G2/DZ either. As long as you stay with a kernel for the same processor. Might be easier to try and compile whatever kernel you want to flash for the G2/DZ....
I have done some reading, so if I missed a link with the answer, pass it on...
So I am currently using ZedomaxEpicTouchKernel[v3][1.6GhzOC][Quadrant 4500+][SU3][CWM]
I am looking at ROMs now, even though I said that I wouldn't, and it seems like the ROMs come with their own kernels.
I want to do a 2.3.5 ROM, possibly cyanogen, but don't want to lose the 1.6g kernel.
Do I flash the custom ROM, then just odin the zedomax kernel over it?
This is my first sammy phone, if it was a moto I wouldn't even be posting.
Thanks
PS - my CWR only backs up/restores after I pull the battery out (then it starts working). Any advice on this is appreciated too.
I'm in the same in the same boat. I am from an EVO 4g and I guess am used to just flashing that in that method.
I'm not exactly sure what to do here either. I sent a google+ message to max, but I really don't even expect him to respond.
Where r u getting that 2.3.5 rom? Was it baked for THIS device? U can't just flash any rom onto the device. Look at development section for roms 4 this device.
Cyanogen has not been brought to this device yet, but here's hoping.
Someone else correct me if I'm wrong.
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He is looking for a rom.. Drop the 2.3.5. He clearly does not mean it.. However his question and the reason for this topic remains..
For example, I am running AE (So I assume bubby's kernal + CWM), but I would like to use the zedomax overclock kernal V3. However anything and everything I thought I knew about flashing seems to be gone... It isn't bad I just need pointed in the right direction so that I can educate myself on what is going on here.
I assume this has to do with the root method. Simply because I don't understand why my recovery is attached to my kernal. I'm used to just running CWM.. Again. I'm lost.
Yeah, I think I see what you mean. My last two devices were htc so I'm kinda lost too. I guess my eyes caught the 2.3.5 & Cyanogen reference and I got confused. I believe that if you flash a rom with a different kernel it will replace whatever you've got. At this point I would be very reluctant to flash anything without cwm coming with it.
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Please excuse my ignorance but is their a runnymede rom available for the desire cdma? It shows up in rom manager but it won't download the rom list. Again. I am sorry if there are already a million threads about this. I have been dealing with what I thought was unbricking my phone from installing or trying to install the runnymede for the gsm. Should have read a little farther first. what a pain in the ass that was.
Anyone? Surely someone knows the answer. But if the answer is yes, how to get it would be nice. I only find it for the gsm so far. :-(
Just be cool. You waited only 20 minutes.
sorry. i've been really anxious to get this since found it on rom manager. So now i just wanna know how. lol. my apologize.
something tells me you can answer this your just being an ass and making me wait. For the effort it took for you to tell me to be cool you could have simply answered my question. I like these forums and would like to become part of this "community" I like to help people though, not toy with them. I'm not a child.
Hi calm down getting angry wouldn't help try this it also work for cmda
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318370
sorry to appear angry, i'm not i just get annoyed by childish games. Rom manager finally let me download it and i downloaded 4.6 it's been trying to boot for a while now. I'm gonna go get something to eat and run a few places and come back and see if it booted yet. Thank you for you help though and again sorry if i appeared to be angry.
Forget rom manager, it only gives u few choices.
Head to desire development forum and get RunnymedeMod007 by michaelm007. Thats what i use as daily rom.
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It will not boot, just stays on the htc screen. It said requirments latest radio but I can't find the latest radio for the cdma only for the gsm. I'm going to partition my sd card for app to sd in a min. any advice?
There are currently no Runnymede ROMs that work for the CDMA Desire. I've tried running most ROMs with Sense 3.0 and higher on my CDMA, with and without patches that claim to make the ROMs work for CDMA. Currently, none are tailored to the CDMA version of the phone.
Im sorry, not sure about cdma only desire.. I use GSM.
However i saw a beta patch for cdma for that rom in addons.
Btw u need a ext partition on sd card or rom won't boot. Also first boot takes around 15-20min while all u see is htc screen.
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Yeah, I've used the CDMA beta patch. I got BlissMod007 to boot and work for the most part. The only big thing I could find that didn't work was the wi-fi, which is rather important. It's still a pretty impressive patch, considering most other features work. However, without wi-fi, I don't see it as a viable ROM to run all the time. If they release new versions of the CDMA patch, or a version strictly for the CDMA Desire, I'll be sure to try it.
yeah after working on it trying every way around it i could think of i still can't get it to work. I need to delete a line from the rom that starts with assert failed: getprop('ro.product.device') =="bravo" E:Error in /sdcard/Pays ... i can delete it but it never stays gone. I don't know what to do, i guess i'm giving up for now.
Extract the zip for the ROM somewhere on your computer. Then go into "META-INF -> com -> google -> android". Open the file updater-script in Notepad or something and delete the line that says:
assert(getprop("ro.product.device") == "bravo" || getprop("ro.build.product") == "bravo");
Then zip the contents back up in a new .zip file and put that on your phone and flash it. It should work. However, I've had problems with any ROM I've done this with (such as with wi-fi not working), so I don't recommend it. Stick to ROMs designed for bravoc. I'm currently using Cyanogenmod 7.1 and it works great.
i got the updater script changed to remove the assert.getprop whatever line, but what do i do with the cdma patch file? do i just flash it after i flash the changed rom zip file?
Yeah, just flash it after you flash whichever ROM you load. But, I'll say again, some features don't work even with the patch. It may not be ideal to use a ROM that doesn't work fully for daily use.
Well I don't have any wifi service where I live, I don't use Bluetooth, so as long as the internet connection/phone/mms works I'm good lol
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Ah, you should be fine then, yeah. I've also heard the accelerometer doesn't work, so the phone won't tilt the display. There may also be a bug with the notification LED. I think that's all I've heard so far. I didn't keep the ROM on my phone long enough to find all of its flaws.
And this is why I choose and LOVE xda forums. Thanks a million peeps. Oh and I have a cdma desire i'm not using because i got into it with my carrier and refuse to pay. So if you need a guinny pig for some stuff i'm glad to help.
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And this is why I choose and LOVE xda forums. Thanks a million peeps. Oh and I have a cdma desire i'm not using because i got into it with my carrier and refuse to pay. So if you need a guinny pig for some stuff i'm glad to help.
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figure out how to run runnymede's newest sense rom on the cdma desire. lol
OK....So im not new to XDA or android really....have been in the HTC Hero forum for a little bit, but my new phone will be here tomorrow....
So far things seem just a lil bit different on this side, please correct me if im wrong....
Kernels-cooked into the ROM cant be flashed over with a different kernel?
Root looks pretty easy to achieve, but also easy to loose/unroot?
CWM doesnt play well with this phone, and must be cooked into a ROM instead of being flashed freely?
Modem/Radio...is there a new or old better or worse...are these all just cooked up and are trial an error? It seems that there should be some kind of consensus as to which ones are good,bad,or indifferent...or which ones work better in a different markets?
And the xx14 or pgxx....different codes for ROMs, what is all of that about, a little insight into that would be GREAT!!
Again, I have been reading over the forums for a week or so now and I am just trying to wrap my head around how this new process is going to work...The Hero is a legacy device and everything seems second nature for me. Alot of people in that forum moved on the the Evo3D, but I was ready for a something new and different, so here I am! I just dont want to screw something up on this device.
Thanks in advance for any positive input.
Edit: OOPS....Guess this should have gone in the Q/A...sorry.
For the code names like FC14... is basically identification of the build date of the ROM.
F = year (2012)
C = month (March)
14 = day
Gotcha, thanks!
Recovery is packed with the kernel. You can use any kernel you want as long as you are using gingerbread kernels with gb roms and ics kernels with ics roms. You can flash them with odin or cwm.
There are currently issues with ICS kernels so it is not recommended to use recovery on any ics kernels.
Modems are basically trial and error with regards to which is best for your phone. You are free to use any modem on any build.
The absolute safest route is ODIN for sure. There is a lot of speculation on what exactly is causing bricks. It seems the worst of it is connected with ICS and Clockword Mod Touch Recovery being used together.
Odin is a very nice tool that you can use from your computer to flash rom files, kernels, and modems. There is also Mobile Odin available from the play market for a few dollars. It's a worthwhile investment because you can flash tar files without a computer. But it is a known issue that the modem won't flash, which isn't a huge deal. Just do it from your computer when you get a chance.
Root isn't necessarily easy to lose. The only way to lose it is to personally remove root using a tool, like autoroot, or to do an OTA update from a stock rooted ROM, that would also remove root. Other than that once you're rooted you are good to go.
Be sure to do AS MUCH READING AS POSSIBLE. People are BRICKING their phones. They are breaking them beyond personal repair, and Spring Tech repair, thus needed warranty replacements. READ READ READ READ READ READ. I can't say it enough, nobody can say it enough. Even the developers have bricked their phones.
Yeah, I am reading...lol
Thats what made me post this because some of it doesnt make sense compared to what I am used to...
I am pretty sure im gonna root and stay stock for at least.....a day! Just to get a feel for it, and be able to tell a difference between stock and Mod... But I must confess I am a flash-whore and have been dying for some ICS goodness!!
I came from the EVO 4G; here are some things I've picked up.
1) The recovery and kernel is combined with samsung phones (same partition). So you can't just flash 1 or the other, you install both.
2) Touch CMW on E4GT is unproven. Some fared ok, some say otherwise. To be safe, I'd avoid it for now. Regular CMW and Rogue recovery are pretty much the gold standard here.
3) Any recovery installed by Rom Manager is temporary (again kernel/recovery are combined). Meaning it won't stick past a normal reboot.
4) Until ICS source is released, any actions done specifically in the ICS kernel-based recovery could potentially brick your phone. This is especially true for any ICS aosp roms (CM9, miui v4, aokp, etc). So this means once you flash from gb to ICS, your recovery is suspect. I will say that I don't see many reports of people bricking with these TW ics leaks, as many just seem to use calk's format all script and flash away. To be 100% safe, its best to odin back to a gb kernel-recovery to anything within the recovery.
5) Learn to use Odin; its important to know if you are going to play with ICS right now.
Good luck!
modems, just like radios, are going to be different for each user.
personally i just use the latest modem since sprint sucks no matter which one i use.
root is achieved simply by using odin to flash a rooted rom.
unroot by simply using odin to flash a stock rom.
very easy!
Hi, I have looked around for a while, but have not received direct answers to these questions, any help would be appreciated. I am not new to rooting since I have rooted and flashed my previous phone (HTC Wildfire S), but these questions were unanswered to me, irregardless of where I looked.
-First, I know that when you gain root access you may toy around with your phone, but by rooting your device do you damage it? I am concerned about this because when I had a Wildfire S I rooted it and within a week it had MAJOR bugs, without flashing or moving any setting.
-Second, how do you perform a nandroid backup? I know that this is kind of a safety net to your device if it ever gets soft-bricked, but how do you do it? I have not had a clear explanation on how to do it.
-Third, I know that CyanogenMod is one of the most stable custom ROMS that there is out there, but does it offer Pure Android?
-Fourth, if any of you know any good (and stable) custom ROMS for the T-Mobile Galaxy S3, could you send them to me please?
-Fifth, I know that with some ROMS you lose certain features (such as video playback in some ROMS, yeah I know sounds terrible) but if I flash a ROM that does support this, do I gain the feature back or do I lose the feature forever?
Going through the same process
amezcuaesteban said:
Hi, I have looked around for a while, but have not received direct answers to these questions, any help would be appreciated. I am not new to rooting since I have rooted and flashed my previous phone (HTC Wildfire S), but these questions were unanswered to me, irregardless of where I looked.
-First, I know that when you gain root access you may toy around with your phone, but by rooting your device do you damage it? I am concerned about this because when I had a Wildfire S I rooted it and within a week it had MAJOR bugs, without flashing or moving any setting.
-Second, how do you perform a nandroid backup? I know that this is kind of a safety net to your device if it ever gets soft-bricked, but how do you do it? I have not had a clear explanation on how to do it.
-Third, I know that CyanogenMod is one of the most stable custom ROMS that there is out there, but does it offer Pure Android?
-Fourth, if any of you know any good (and stable) custom ROMS for the T-Mobile Galaxy S3, could you send them to me please?
-Fifth, I know that with some ROMS you lose certain features (such as video playback in some ROMS, yeah I know sounds terrible) but if I flash a ROM that does support this, do I gain the feature back or do I lose the feature forever?
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I'm going through this same process now, and am new also--I rooted an old mytouch 3g slide and flashed CM7 on it. Afterwards it was bit buggy, but it was a bit buggy before too, hardware issues I think.
I think rooting in and of itself shouldn't mess up your phone, but if you don't do it correctly it could surely screw things up.
Do you have the T999 or T999L? which version will matter in terms of ROM flashing details (for example, I have the T999L, which is the LTE version)
Let me know of the progress you have on these questions!
I'm going through this same process now, and am new also--I rooted an old mytouch 3g slide and flashed CM7 on it. Afterwards it was bit buggy, but it was a bit buggy before too, hardware issues I think.
I think rooting in and of itself shouldn't mess up your phone, but if you don't do it correctly it could surely screw things up.
Do you have the T999 or T999L? which version will matter in terms of ROM flashing details (for example, I have the T999L, which is the LTE version)
Let me know of the progress you have on these questions!
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I unfortunately have the T999. I know that mine won't be able to get LTE which is sad, but is this something that I MUST look into before flashing a ROM? Like are the t999 and T999L that different, I mean it is ONE chip.
amezcuaesteban said:
I unfortunately have the T999. I know that mine won't be able to get LTE which is sad, but is this something that I MUST look into before flashing a ROM? Like are the t999 and T999L that different, I mean it is ONE chip.
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It's something to be aware of. I believe most of the T-mobile gs3 ROMS are built with the T999 in mind though, so you shouldn't really worry too much.
DocHOliday77's thread [INFO] [FAQ] Galaxy S3 w/ LTE - SGH-T999L & SGH-T999N points to some discrepancies between the T999 and T999L though
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amezcuaesteban said:
Hi, I have looked around for a while, but have not received direct answers to these questions, any help would be appreciated. I am not new to rooting since I have rooted and flashed my previous phone (HTC Wildfire S), but these questions were unanswered to me, irregardless of where I looked.
-First, I know that when you gain root access you may toy around with your phone, but by rooting your device do you damage it? I am concerned about this because when I had a Wildfire S I rooted it and within a week it had MAJOR bugs, without flashing or moving any setting.
Rooting does nothing but give you SuperUser access to your phone. That is literally all it does. Now what you do with it can cause major headaches.
-Second, how do you perform a nandroid backup? I know that this is kind of a safety net to your device if it ever gets soft-bricked, but how do you do it? I have not had a clear explanation on how to do it.
Install a custom recovery such as TWRP or Clockwork (CWR), then boot into recovery via key combo (Power+VolDown+Home, see blue light at top left and release the keys). From there you will see how Back Up/Restore options.
-Third, I know that CyanogenMod is one of the most stable custom ROMS that there is out there, but does it offer Pure Android?
Many ROMs out there. Just need to read the OPs for what you want.
-Fourth, if any of you know any good (and stable) custom ROMS for the T-Mobile Galaxy S3, could you send them to me please?
Not allowed and don't ask this type of question. All it ever turns into is an EPeen contest and will surely get the thread closed down.
-Fifth, I know that with some ROMS you lose certain features (such as video playback in some ROMS, yeah I know sounds terrible) but if I flash a ROM that does support this, do I gain the feature back or do I lose the feature forever?
This is exactly what a Nandroid backup is for. Something that you don't like or something borks, then just boot into recovery and restore your last working ROM backup. Kind of the point. Not sure I have ever heard of a ROM losing video playback as all are pretty much optimized nowadays.
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el_garicimo said:
I'm going through this same process now, and am new also--I rooted an old mytouch 3g slide and flashed CM7 on it. Afterwards it was bit buggy, but it was a bit buggy before too, hardware issues I think.
I think rooting in and of itself shouldn't mess up your phone, but if you don't do it correctly it could surely screw things up.
Do you have the T999 or T999L? which version will matter in terms of ROM flashing details (for example, I have the T999L, which is the LTE version)
Let me know of the progress you have on these questions!
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See my part above about Rooting. You are correct in that it doesn't affect anything whatsoever. It is what you do with it.
I am pretty sure that most are based off T999 code and in order to have the LTE, you have to flash the LTE modem. Might want to ask Doc about that as he has/had the T999L.
Also, CM7 was a long time ago and things have massively progress since then.
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I unfortunately have the T999. I know that mine won't be able to get LTE which is sad, but is this something that I MUST look into before flashing a ROM? Like are the t999 and T999L that different, I mean it is ONE chip.
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See my reply above.
el_garicimo said:
It's something to be aware of. I believe most of the T-mobile gs3 ROMS are built with the T999 in mind though, so you shouldn't really worry too much.
DocHOliday77's thread [INFO] [FAQ] Galaxy S3 w/ LTE - SGH-T999L & SGH-T999N points to some discrepancies between the T999 and T999L though
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