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I might be getting an EVO 4G as a warranty replacement for my hero and I live in Milwaukee, WI with no 4G service.
I need to know if anything on the evo goes out and says its a 4g phone other than imei/esn. If so what and can it be disabled or blocked?
Im sorry if this is way out of line. I just trying to gather information at this point.
Lol
As soon as you turn it on, Sprint makes sure you know it's 4G.
Sorry guys just had to ask.
Kdragon75 said:
Ill be getting the phone from best buy as a black tie replacement if i break my Hero.
So ill get the phone unactivated and sprint wont know unless i tell them i got a new phone. I just need to know if the 4g radio can be completely disabled to make the phone look like a Hero (except for the imei/esn).
So IF some how i could "transplant" aforementioned numbers (is this possible? I don't think so) Sprint would think im still using a 3g phone like the hero...
There is no sense in paying a premium for something that I am not able to use.
If Milwaukee ever goes 4G I would like to undo and needed hacks/mods so that I can register for service at that time.
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not possible.
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why?
There are multiple threads far more legally shady than this.
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why?
There are multiple threads far more legally shady than this.
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Lol, I was wondering the same thing.
nothing illegal about this thread, they just wont give u an EVO 4G as a warranty replacement, they will give you another hero.
the back cover says 4G, the bootscreen says 4G, the OS says 4G, what does it matter? If you dont have it you dont have it why do you need to hide it?
The premium charge is not because of 4G.
The charge is to remove the 5BG cap!
Enjoy the new plan of uncapped INTERNET on your phone! Cheers!
The premium charge is not because of 4G.
The charge is to remove the 5BG cap!
Enjoy the new plan of uncapped INTERNET on your phone! Cheers!
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AFAIK Data has never been capped
Not possible, the ESN is tied to the mainboard and its in sprints system.
robtrevino said:
AFAIK Data has never been capped
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yes it has, read the small print every god damn cell phone providers have caps on their unlimited data plans sprints has 5 gb's. If you went over you limit with sprint in the past, they did not complain to no one uses them so they don't call to ***** at their few subscibers
I'm not concerned with the esn. I would only want to disabled the 4g part of the phone. I don't want it to phone home and say I'm an evolution 4g give me 4g.
Ill talk to my stores sprint Rep to see if there's any ligit way around this required $10 fee.
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Kdragon75 said:
I'm not concerned with the esn. I would only want to disabled the 4g part of the phone. I don't want it to phone home and say I'm an evolution 4g give me 4g.
Ill talk to my stores sprint Rep to see if there's any ligit way around this required $10 fee.
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Good luck. If you take a look around the forums though, you'll see there have been plenty of people trying to get around the fee, & as far as i know, no one has been successful. If it goes any differently, let us know!
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7 Posts and you're already policing the forums?
Someone asking if things are possible is very different than asking about changing an IMEI number.
Your IMEI number is how the carrier recognizes what phone you have. In theory... if you changed that to match your Hero's number then they'd think it was your hero. That is presuming you never turned on your 4G.
The only issue is that I believe it is illegal in the US to spoof your IMEI number. This is a measure taken to allow carriers to block stolen phones from their networks. Makes sense. More info on IMEI http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
So sorry, you're going to be out of luck.
^^ And that's how you answer an OP's question, stay legal, and avoid being a ****.
What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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Why is it you're not worried about Verizon having the MEID in their system? That is all you should be worried about. If it is not in their system, they will not allow the device on their network.
I can have it added.....so back to my original question.......can it be done??
I'm sure there's a way, you just won't have 4g. May need msl. Just use getprop to get it
Of course its Possible i have did for 2 Carriers in India why not Verizon, get your MEID added and be in touch be me.
suzook said:
I can have it added.....so back to my original question.......can it be done??
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If you can have it added then I think you're going to have to find out through trial and error, as not many have that kind of access. Let us know how it goes.
if i could do it id take my epic to verizon how do i do it!
churro7 said:
if i could do it id take my epic to verizon how do i do it!
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Make a donation to suzook to get added to the system, lol.
As far as I know, I remember some people said they could call in and say they were an Alltel orphan - but since it's been a while since the merger I doubt that still works.
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i have it on vz network, talk and text work fine, but data is a no go, i have tried the same methods for cricket...but stillno go. im hoping someone can point me in the right direction
Verizon won't stop you from using a Sprint phone, but they won't help you, either. Assuming the software radio itself isn't the problem, you're basically going to have to wait until there are AOSP kernel and Android builds for both the Epic and Fascinate, then figure out how they differ and hack an Epic build to incorporate the changes in the Fascinate build. Then copy over Verizon's own apps for things like voicemail.
If you need a new radio, all bets are off. AFAIK, radio firmware signed with Verizon's key won't install on a phone expecting Sprint's cert, and vice-versa. Unlike Android itself, the radio firmware is very, very encryption-locked, because it's basically impossible to get a phone with software radio past the FCC if it's not (unless you're only planning to sell it to licensed ham radio operators, and have the means to enforce it). I'm not sure whether it was possible to reflash Sprint WinMo phones to work on Verizon because the radios used the same firmware, because the radio firmware was signed by HTC in both cases, or because someone found a way to defeat the protection.
You'll probably have better luck if you try to get 1xRTT working before EVDO. I believe there's a small difference between the way Sprint and Verizon's EVDO works (one that's entirely due to software and not insurmountable, but might be the reason why Sprint phones doing data roaming on Verizon seem to be limited to 1xRTT, assuming it's not just a business decision by Verizon and/or Sprint to allow Sprint users to only roam at 1xRTT.
Has anyone been able to solve this? I have my epic for sale or trade for a verizon phone with no offers... So I'm curious if I can just take it to verizon with me.. since its bad ass..
I fixed the data not working on an epic flashed to cricket by changing the msl to 000000 and dialing *228 so maybe try that. If you can manage to find a cool vzw tech rep get them to go into switch view in acss, go to the data section and uncheck the box that requires validated shared secret data for data use. I would help you myself but I no longer work there. Directv has better benefits I wish you the best of luck bro.
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lafronz said:
I fixed the data not working on an epic flashed to cricket by changing the msl to 000000 and dialing *228 so maybe try that. If you can manage to find a cool vzw tech rep get them to go into switch view in acss, go to the data section and uncheck the box that requires validated shared secret data for data use. I would help you myself but I no longer work there. Directv has better benefits I wish you the best of luck bro.
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if someone has a phone active already, they can extract the shared secret and write it to the Epic.
No radio firmware or ROM will make it work or not work.
lots of sprint phones are active on PagePlus. They will activate almost any CDMA device. PagePlus is a vzw MVNO.
I've said enough.. any more might be breaking the rules
I'm tryin to figure out how to do the whole entire thing from the beginning.
Nickdroid86 said:
I'm tryin to figure out how to do the whole entire thing from the beginning.
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we're not allowed to discuss that here. it's against XDA rules.
I'm sure there are many here that could give you a description of what needs done via PM or something, but we can't discuss it in the open forum.
daddymikey1975 said:
we're not allowed to discuss that here. it's against XDA rules.
I'm sure there are many here that could give you a description of what needs done via PM or something, but we can't discuss it in the open forum.
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It suddenly became against the rules to discuss using phones on different carriers? This is no different from discussing bringing a T-Mobile phone to AT&T and making things work -.- Sure there's no SIM card in this discussion and the technology is different, but that's it.
It is not against the rules. Only making a phone with a bad esn work is.
But this is a question and belongs in Q&A
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suzook said:
What the possibility of flashing an epic to work properly on vz? I see it can be done on cricket....I'm not worried about Verizon having the meid in the system....anyone out there do this? Thanks
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but what I've done to make it works for our carrier in Indonesia was back to EC05 bml stock rom then googling about cdma workshop & qpstn then applied them to your epic with Verizon parameters
Is there a real guide on how to get a Sprint Evo 4G working on Boost Mobile? I have searched everywhere on various forums, but have come up empty handed. Except for some youtube videos, no1 wants to even talk on how to do it.
Wrong place for this question. Should be in Q & A.
Impossible to put EVO on Boost Mobile.
mitchellvii said:
Wrong place for this question. Should be in Q & A.
Impossible to put EVO on Boost Mobile.
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No, its not impossible. I have seen it for myself.
Just call Boost Mobile Customer Service, give then the ESN number, which must be clean, and have then activate the ESN. You must have a working Boost Mobile account prior to doing it. Do not tell them you have an EVO, just give them the ESN. Some reps will tell you right away it can't be done, others do not even look at the fact that it is a Sprint phone and just put it on the system. Keep trying, be courteus, if the 1st rep does not do it, call back. It has worked for me.
Lol no matter if he gives them the esn it dont have to be clean why u think people switch to cricket u need to flash the prl first and then manual add the wdb and mms settings u must have ur boost number first just follow the cricket guide but google boost mms and web servers and uze them along with ur boost prl
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Just call Boost Mobile Customer Service, give then the ESN number, which must be clean, and have then activate the ESN. You must have a working Boost Mobile account prior to doing it. Do not tell them you have an EVO, just give them the ESN. Some reps will tell you right away it can't be done, others do not even look at the fact that it is a Sprint phone and just put it on the system. Keep trying, be courteus, if the 1st rep does not do it, call back. It has worked for me.
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do what he said but instead of calling back just go onto boostmobile.com and do it there you may need to enter the esn number 3 or 4 times but it will take it.
Dude r u people stupid its a sprint phone so it requires to be flash so it can get the boost tower that means prl flash duh u need cdma workshop and qualcom
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Lmao im going to call att to give them my esn oh snap I will have a sprint on att impossible dude same as a sprint phone recieving boost with no flash when u flash it call 611 u will here wel,omd to boost not sprint ask anyone look up tbe crap on google
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I had my evo done because i couldn't find a good guide to flash it to boost. Now everything is working great.
oh and my boost phone also works too. It's basically a clone.
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I had my evo done because i couldn't find a good guide to flash it to boost. Now everything is working great.
oh and my boost phone also works too. It's basically a clone.
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Not wise to keep them on at the same time.
I'd say outright dumb.
But hey, your mileage may vary
krazydude4g said:
Dude r u people stupid its a sprint phone so it requires to be flash so it can get the boost tower that means prl flash duh u need cdma workshop and qualcom
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THANK YOU! Im reading like "are these ppl serious?" Calling boost with an Evo Esn # will get u nowhere they're not gonna activate it Period. if it was that simple Sprint would have NO business. I dont know the Step by Step (but i seen the process) but the evo must be properly flashed to work with boost (too much work for me so i jus had a friend of a friend do it for me for $70) and from wut i understand its technically illegal cus it involves esn cloning an other trickery blah blah...politics
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THANK YOU! Im reading like "are these ppl serious?" Calling boost with an Evo Esn # will get u nowhere they're not gonna activate it Period. if it was that simple Sprint would have NO business. I dont know the Step by Step (but i seen the process) but the evo must be properly flashed to work with boost (too much work for me so i jus had a friend of a friend do it for me for $70) and from wut i understand its technically illegal cus it involves esn cloning an other trickery blah blah...politics
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No your wrong boost is owned by sprint and their cdma phones run off of sprint network truth is a Evo could run on boost cdma portion if and only if you get someone dumb enough to activate the esn and imei on there without checking what type of phone it is I've seen both Evo's and here's on boost. Truth is those people got lucky and no no esn cloning is needed like I said you just need someone dumb enough to NOT CHECK WHAT PHONE IT IS! You won't have 4G but you still get 3G, all possible cause THEY RUN ON THE SAME NETWORK AND SIGNAL
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No your wrong boost is owned by sprint and their cdma phones run off of sprint network truth is a Evo could run on boost cdma portion if and only if you get someone dumb enough to activate the esn and imei on there without checking what type of phone it is I've seen both Evo's and here's on boost. Truth is those people got lucky and no no esn cloning is needed like I said you just need someone dumb enough to NOT CHECK WHAT PHONE IT IS! You won't have 4G but you still get 3G, all possible cause THEY RUN ON THE SAME NETWORK AND SIGNAL
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Im not exactly wrong, I know boost is owned by sprint and I see wut ur saying ..yes if u get lucky enough to get a rep to just blindly activate an evo then lucky u. ESN cloning is an (illegal) precaution cus believe it or not most of the reps do their job an will deny activation. but let's say they do activate it that way, everything is not gonna work like web an mms those settings HAVE to be manually altered.
The whole point is for boost to think u have one of there phones... any rep has the right to shut u down if they see an evo on ur account
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Im not exactly wrong, I know boost is owned by sprint and I see wut ur saying ..yes if u get lucky enough to get a rep to just blindly activate an evo then lucky u. ESN cloning is an (illegal) precaution cus believe it or not most of the reps do their job an will deny activation. but let's say they do activate it that way, everything is not gonna work like web an mms those settings HAVE to be manually altered.
The whole point is for boost to think u have one of there phones... any rep has the right to shut u down if they see an evo on ur account
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I stand partially corrected
( I am literally standing to)
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Jbcarrera said:
I stand partially corrected
( I am literally standing to)
Sent from my EVO at the edge of Hell
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Lol Its cool man, its a good move if u don't live in a 4g area like me (I doubt it will ever come here) im saving $40 a month, everything working an not paying for 4g service I don't have ...but if anyone ask u tell em I have a samsung rant lol
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ddark4eva said:
Lol Its cool man, its a good move if u don't live in a 4g area like me (I doubt it will ever come here) im saving $40 a month, everything working an not paying for 4g service I don't have ...but if anyone ask u tell em I have a samsung rant lol
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What EVO?
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What EVO?
Sent from my EVO at the edge of Hell
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Yep
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How do i do it???
Is there a guide, links something to get me started because im not paying anyone to do this because id like to do this myself. I looked up the cdma workshop but i have no clue where to go from there.What about my prl, what settings do i need to flash this to. Plz help me with links or a guide/walkthrough/telling me how. Thanks in advance.
trizyman said:
Is there a guide, links something to get me started because im not paying anyone to do this because id like to do this myself. I looked up the cdma workshop but i have no clue where to go from there.What about my prl, what settings do i need to flash this to. Plz help me with links or a guide/walkthrough/telling me how. Thanks in advance.
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You want on Boost, buy a Boost phone.
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You want on Boost, buy a Boost phone.
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Thx but no Thx Ive brought many boost/nextel phones. i90/i95/i730/i530/i930 etc. I even use to mod them. Now Ive UPGRADED to have an ANDROID Evo an Im not Downgrading/buying another crappy boost phone. SO if anyone has any useful info plz inform me. Also Ive seen u can gsm unlock the phone how useful is that.
Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.
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Hi guys, I'm about to cancel my Sprint account and root the evo to boost, the incognito/rant are no longer on sale except on eBay. Which of the newer cheapest phone from Boost I can use as a donor???? I am afraid to get a used one from eBay thinking it might not work. Thanks in advance.
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I've gotten mine, always used incognito, from craigslist. Doesn't matter what condition the phone is in as long as it powers up and can connect the usb port. I've done it with the Evo and the E3D. I want to try one of the Galaxy phones next but haven't gotten my hands on one. Good luck.
I've done two now with the incognito and their both working fine.
Technically you could use any 3g phone, it just may be harder to get all the info you need since most of the directions are for those 2...
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Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:
It has to be from boost. And it can ONLY be used as a donor once at a time.
Meaning, say a buddy uses it to flash his evo. If he's still using it, you can't.
So if your buying one, make sure its a clean esn and activatible.
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Thanks to all, I think I'm ready now. I did search CL and found a couple near where I am, just need to make sure they're ok. Thanks again
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Thanks guys, so I won't matter if the incognito has been used as a donor before?? does it has to be an incognito from Boost or any other carries who might have sold it.:good:
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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.
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Just change the phone number on the Incognito it will assign new HA/AAA information.
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But that doesn't matter. When you clone the info to a new phone, its always going to use the same unique numbers. The HA/AAA are only the passwords needed to access the information.
The esn/meid are unique and only 1 phone has those numbers. Its like a network mac address.
So no, you still can only use a phone once at a time. Otherwise, I could sell just the numbers off my phone all day long.
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I'm not talking about multiple people using the same information.
I'm talking about generating new HA/AAA information so at least he would know there's no way for some else to have it like the guy he bought it from.
By activating the phone you know if its in use or not.
He wouldn't be able to even activate the phone if someone is even using the MEID or ESN.
Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.
Some people claim they have but their official policy is against it, most have said they've been denied and I haven't even tried.
They can tell what ESN is coming from where Boost and Sprint ESNs are not considered the same in their systems.
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Can't you just call boost with your evo's ESN and they'll put it on their network? No need for a donor if so.
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To my understanding after reading a few blogs is that you can't do that, it will seem doable because is basically the same network(Sprint) but aparently is not possible therefore the need to flash.
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Just to update there are some other phones that can be use see this.
I was able to get a brand new incognito from a Sprint Store in VA, I spoke to one of the managers and they're getting rid off all the old boost mobile phones, I got mine for less than $30 they can even go lower If you buy in bulk, I thought about buying them(they had about 20) and reselling them on CL but didn't do it(not enough cash).
Anyway I completed the flash and now I am using my 4G Evo with boost, I am down to $25/month, I got the Pay as you go plan $.50/day unlimited web + $0.20/minute call. Works great for me since I don't use the phone to make calls, mostly text and web. Running ICS ROM of course with no 4G, I was paying about $93/month with Sprint.
My dad bought an Epic 4G Touch and wants to flash to boost, anyways later on I insist that he needs a donor phone but he thinks it doesn't matter. How can I explain to him about the situation?
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My dad bought an Epic 4G Touch and wants to flash to boost, anyways later on I insist that he needs a donor phone but he thinks it doesn't matter. How can I explain to him about the situation?
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If it has a good esn why not call boost and sign up with them? Boost has this phone and they should activate it right?
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If it has a good esn why not call boost and sign up with them? Boost has this phone and they should activate it right?
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I have inquired about this in several places and none of the techs in boost stores will activate it for me.
Not sure about if you call corporate and have them activate it that way.
But the phone is sprint, will it still work?
This phone has the capability to work on boost. You either need to get a boost tech to activate it, or you buy a different boost phone and clone it to this phone, which is technically illegal and you won't find help doing that in this forum
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