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HTC One X now out in Australia

Picked up my unlocked White HTC One X here at a local phone shop in Melbourne Australia today for $668 Aust.
Loving it so far, beautiful screen and resolution and overall feel is very solid and premium.
The Sony Xperia S will be getting sold!
Ask any questions you would like to know answers to and I will do my best to respond..

Congrats mate
Only thing white specific I'm interested in is how easy cleaning the back of the phone is from hand oils, dirt, marks, etc. Someone on youtube shows a pen coming off okay, but don't worry, I won't ask you to test that
Hope the UK retailers get their act in gear and we aren't waiting till estimates like the 10th-12th for Phone.

here's a few things you can test mate, i'd appreciate the response:
- take a 720p and 1080p video and check what bitrate it's recorded at
- take some normal and HDR shots of the same thing and post them
- take a panorama (they supposedly increased the dimensions) and post it
- run a quadrant, antutu, stuff like that and post results
thanks!

Audioboxer said:
Congrats mate
Only thing white specific I'm interested in is how easy cleaning the back of the phone is from hand oils, dirt, marks, etc. Someone on youtube shows a pen coming off okay, but don't worry, I won't ask you to test that
Hope the UK retailers get their act in gear and we aren't waiting till estimates like the 10th-12th for Phone.
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Well bit early to tell yet (only 2 hours old) but the back of the phone doesn't show any finger prints etc so far and looks like it will wipe clean easily ..
Yeah I might skip writing on it yet

zerozoneice said:
here's a few things you can test mate, i'd appreciate the response:
- take a 720p and 1080p video and check what bitrate it's recorded at
- take some normal and HDR shots of the same thing and post them
- take a panorama (they supposedly increased the dimensions) and post it
- run a quadrant, antutu, stuff like that and post results
thanks!
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Will do some photos, vids tomorrow - its night time here now
Quadrant Results below:
Overall - 4852
CPU - 13072
MEM - 3302
I/O - 4452
2D - 1000
3D - 2433

What! Where did you get it?

frostywinter said:
Will do some photos, vids tomorrow - its night time here now
Quadrant Results below:
Overall - 4852
CPU - 13072
MEM - 3302
I/O - 4452
2D - 1000
3D - 2433
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thanks, you can take a photo and video in low light too you know
show off that f2.0 lens

robt772000 said:
What! Where did you get it?
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Allphones - they have lots of kiosk shops at various shopping centres.
Got mine at Knox City (Melbourne)

frostywinter said:
Picked up my unlocked White HTC One X here at a local phone shop in Melbourne Australia today for $668 Aust.
Loving it so far, beautiful screen and resolution and overall feel is very solid and premium.
The Sony Xperia S will be getting sold!
Ask any questions you would like to know answers to and I will do my best to respond..
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Can you test signal strenght compare with another your phone?

acer73 said:
Can you test signal strenght compare with another your phone?
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Seems pretty much the same sofar - is there a way to better measure this?

Currently got my eyes stuck on the HTC One X at the moment (I'm from Perth, Australia).
Would be awesome if we could get a black/grey one here in Australia, but not a BIG problem (I just dislike anything glossy, to be honest, and the rim around the grey's camera is matte).
Anyway, will see what SGS3 has to offer before I pick between that and the HTC One X.
Looking VERY promising and I'm really excited!

kelvinyap9 said:
Currently got my eyes stuck on the HTC One X at the moment (I'm from Perth, Australia).
Would be awesome if we could get a black/grey one here in Australia, but not a BIG problem (I just dislike anything glossy, to be honest, and the rim around the grey's camera is matte).
Anyway, will see what SGS3 has to offer before I pick between that and the HTC One X.
Looking VERY promising and I'm really excited!
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I too was gonna wait til the sgs3, but after the terrible ICS update for the SGS2, im going for a complete overhaul.
I've never owned an HTC phone, & never owned a white phone - so, why not.
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chrisjcks said:
I too was gonna wait til the sgs3, but after the terrible ICS update for the SGS2, im going for a complete overhaul.
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I'm going to give it a chance anyway, since there IS a reason why the SGS2 was king of Android for quite awhile there!
And besides, I'll most likely root the phone and install a custom ROM anyway

kelvinyap9 said:
I'm going to give it a chance anyway, since there IS a reason why the SGS2 was king of Android for quite awhile there!
And besides, I'll most likely root the phone and install a custom ROM anyway
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That's cool, I'm not a fanboy for any manufacturer or device & don't disregard anyone's opinion.
but SGS2 is still Samsung's flagship device, ICS is its first update to a new android & I cannot believe how poor ICS is for this device.
The design is very poor, it feels nothing like ICS.
It's really laggy & slow compared to the excellent gingerbread rom that samsung developed.
It completely ruined my confidence in Samsung's software development team & forced me to go elsewhere - maybe in the future samsung will improve its software, but for now - i want a change.
Never owned an HTC device before, never used sense & never owned a white phone before, so this is gonna feel completely fresh & new to me - excited!
I predict the sgs3 would have the same 'feel' as SGS2 but faster with better specs, & its this feel I wanted a change from. (not because it's a bad feeling, but I certainly want to feel like I have a new phone, a new experience & new software)
Good luck with your decision making
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chrisjcks said:
That's cool, I'm not a fanboy for any manufacturer or device & don't disregard anyone's opinion.
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Definitely! I'm basically just looking at what both has to offer rather than sort of risk jumping into the HTC One X pool then having to come out again when the SGS3 is significantly better.
In other words, I'm looking at which has better features for me personally, since I assume they'll both be in the same price range anyway.
Good luck with your decision making
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I will certainly have fun doing this >

Just a quick update on my brand new One X re battery - it dropped 6% over night (11pm to 7am) this was with the smart sync enabled.
Frosty

Hey
My friend, first of all enjoy your new super toy . Would you please tell me how is the loudspeaker volume level?. Cuz I hate HTC's speakers and ringtones volume levels...Is it prety loud? On monday I m planning to buy in Istanbul. Peace

zanbay said:
My friend, first of all enjoy your new super toy . Would you please tell me how is the loudspeaker volume level?. Cuz I hate HTC's speakers and ringtones volume levels...Is it prety loud? On monday I m planning to buy in Istanbul. Peace
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Loudspeaker volume is great - no problems at all.

I just bought mine for $599 from Telechoice Was surprised it was so cheap.

fredaroony said:
I just bought mine for $599 from Telechoice Was surprised it was so cheap.
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That's very cheap, hopefully they have them in Perth when I come over next month
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[Q] How bad is the GNEX camera compared to the Htc one s?

I'm seriously considering getting the Gnex especially now that it's only 400$ from google play.. The only thing that's holding me back a little bit is the camera...I'm on tmobile, and I do have the choice of getting the HTC one s.
I'm not a hardcore photographer but I do like taking photos from time to time.
So is the galaxy nexus camera really THAT bad?
any help deciding would be appreciated here.

The camera is fine, don't listen to the criticism.
It may not be the best in low light but in normal conditions its perfectly fine.
There's a thread with pictures from the gnex so search for it its in general or q&a, not sure.

I have both devices and the one s has features above the nexus, but in terms of quality they're both about equal. I keep going back to the nexus since I think it's more stable.
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nodstuff said:
The camera is fine, don't listen to the criticism.
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What he said. I'm more than pleased with the camera on my Galaxy Nexus, though the instant shutter does take a wee bit of getting used to. Being able to rapidly snap shots is pretty awesome though.
It really is a no-brainer; choose the Nexus every time. The hacking capability more than makes up for any missing megapixels.

y2k1ltd said:
I have both devices and the one s has features above the nexus, but in terms of quality they're both about equal. I keep going back to the nexus since I think it's more stable.
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so are you saying in term of photo quality there isn't that much of a difference?!

go look at the post with all the GN photo thread.... compare it to a one s picture.
conclude for yourself.

zephiK said:
go look at the post with all the GN photo thread.... compare it to a one s picture.
conclude for yourself.
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The photos in the forums are usually resized which doesn't help with an accurate judgment....same thing applies to videos on youtube.

alaasagar said:
The photos in the forums are usually resized which doesn't help with an accurate judgment....same thing applies to videos on youtube.
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They are not resized. I'm looking at them right now,
57 pages. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271088&page=47
http://i41.twitgoo.com/ngxzx0.jpg
http://i41.twitgoo.com/24omvr6.jpg
http://i1025.photobucket.com/albums/y317/shibby80/PANO_20120401_174949.jpg
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u230/limit11007/IMG_20120325_140737.jpg
http://i42.twitgoo.com/ndn2na.jpg
.. I can keep going on but just look in that thread. The Galaxy Nexus is a perfect phone. Great development, bloat free... just get it and stop second judging you won't be disappointed.
People criticize because of 5MP but its not all about the MP and a lot of them are usually trolls.

Look for original pix. The camera is better than the 8mp on the Motorola Photon or than the Galaxy S.
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Thanks for the info....gonna order it now

alaasagar said:
Thanks for the info....gonna order it now
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welcome aboard!

alaasagar said:
so are you saying in term of photo quality there isn't that much of a difference?!
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Yes, you can only tell if you're planning on printing large photos, but for everyday you can't tell.
Welcome aboard to the GNex group.
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Camera?

Has anyone found a good camera for the nexus? I can't seem to get the stock one to give me a good crisp picture.
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Vignette.
If you don't it, you wont like any camera app.

djgdroid said:
Has anyone found a good camera for the nexus? I can't seem to get the stock one to give me a good crisp picture.
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are you tapping the screen on the focus point you want? if you dont, it wont focus on that target.

stock app is fine. you just need some practice on how to take pictures.

Yes i've found one - it's Nikon D3100. Now i'll try seriously. Google has damn good coders and if it was posible to simply write better camera app they've had it done already. No offence for other developers.
If camera is very important for you shall get some other phone with better camera, it isn't hard to find one. Or buy a proper DSLR camera (yes, i'd be fruity happy if they were as compact as mibile phones).

MS. said:
Yes i've found one - it's Nikon D3100. Now i'll try seriously. Google has damn good coders and if it was posible to simply write better camera app they've had it done already. No offence for other developers.
If camera is very important for you shall get some other phone with better camera, it isn't hard to find one. Or buy a proper DSLR camera (yes, i'd be fruity happy if they were as compact as mibile phones).
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idk about that; google can't even get gmail contact images to be above 96x96, despite us asking them since 2009.
google wouldn't have done anything with this camera, samsung would have. the camera hardware on the nexus just isn't good compared to the competition, as you alluded to

MS. said:
Yes i've found one - it's Nikon D3100. Now i'll try seriously. Google has damn good coders and if it was posible to simply write better camera app they've had it done already. No offence for other developers.
If camera is very important for you shall get some other phone with better camera, it isn't hard to find one. Or buy a proper DSLR camera (yes, i'd be fruity happy if they were as compact as mibile phones).
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You could hit the middle ground and get a Micro 4/3 camera. That's my choice.
But really, the GNex doesn't take awful photos. Compose properly and take 2sec and you'll get a good enough photo for things you're taking pictures of with a phone (posting to Facebook, G+, Twitter, etc.).

jayochs said:
idk about that; google can't even get gmail contact images to be above 96x96, despite us asking them since 2009.
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Sometimes it takes a lot of effort and time to convince a developer to add a simple button on a web site and once it's done, then everyone wonders how could they live without it so long. There's loooooong story behind this from my own experience
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google wouldn't have done anything with this camera, samsung would have. the camera hardware on the nexus just isn't good compared to the competition, as you alluded to
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Yes, but don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that GNex has bad camera. It's just not as good as some others. And those people who actually need a good camera on their smartphones, usually going trough few reviews before buying it.
Martonikaj> absolutely agree with you, but i'm not one of those who complaining about GNex camera. I saw sample pictures/videos before i bought this phone and even more to that - take a look at my signature (the last three owned phones)

From my experience with this camera so far.
1) If you have a good light source, your fine.
2) For indoor shots, they work best when the light source is coming from behind you. Cuts down the pixelation.
3) Tap the screen at the focus point you want.
4) For night shots, I find they work best when you disable the flash. Don't use night scene mode, never had much luck with that.
Outdoor this camera can take some great shots, but indoors you have to handle it a certain way.

I was pretty sure when I decided on the nexus that the camera was going to be the weak spot. I just loved that it was pure Android. I've tried camera fx and have noticed a slightly better quality picture but I'm just not loving the interface. I was hoping someone had tried a camera app that I hadn't and liked it. I really liked the camera on my old HTC incredible but that was the only thing better than my nexus.
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Loving Zoe!

So, I went up to San Francisco for the weekend and decided to really test Zoe out. I shoot in Zoe only and made 5 or 6 clips so far. The simplicity is insane and the quality threw all my friends for a loop.
Take a look... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAPhV8IIAKI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Pretty sweet. I'm loving the Zoe camera too. Most of my shots are done with Zoe.
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sebastianraven said:
So, I went up to San Francisco for the weekend and decided to really test Zoe out. I shoot in Zoe only and made 5 or 6 clips so far. The simplicity is insane and the quality threw all my friends for a loop.
Take a look... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAPhV8IIAKI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Damn man. That could be an ad, no joke. Well done!
I haven't played around with Zoe yet but the Ultrapixel thing is impressing me. Reviews kinda panned it but I was just taking pictures of my yard yesterday after sunset, when everything looked almost grey to my eyes, and through the camera it was still vivid - looked like an HDR picture taken at noon.

scarshapedstar said:
Damn man. That could be an ad, no joke. Well done!
I haven't played around with Zoe yet but the Ultrapixel thing is impressing me. Reviews kinda panned it but I was just taking pictures of my yard yesterday after sunset, when everything looked almost grey to my eyes, and through the camera it was still vivid - looked like an HDR picture taken at noon.
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Why didn't HTC use this as an ad? Great video OP... Never used ZOE but after seeing this I will now!

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traimegai321 said:
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I didn't "get" Zoe for a while. The video is awesome but doesnt show off any of the Zoe features. The real Zoe magic is when you remove a photobomber from your picture, or do an action sequence, or use all smiles. The retouching feels more magical to me. OE isn't about 7 second clips...it's about what you can do with them!

scarshapedstar said:
Damn man. That could be an ad, no joke. Well done!
I haven't played around with Zoe yet but the Ultrapixel thing is impressing me. Reviews kinda panned it but I was just taking pictures of my yard yesterday after sunset, when everything looked almost grey to my eyes, and through the camera it was still vivid - looked like an HDR picture taken at noon.
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Why didn't HTC use this as an ad? Great video OP... Never used ZOE but after seeing this I will now!
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Thanks guys. It was just so cool that from the time the reception ended to the time I got back to my hotel (7 blocks in a cab), this was done. Here is one more of my son.
http://www.youtube.com/edit?video_id=qQv31Axhtug&ns=1

3rd Party Camera Apps

Knowing that the week part of this phone is the camera (beyond low light photography)...
Is it better with third-party camera apps?

NYC Coyote said:
Knowing that the week part of this phone is the camera (beyond low light photography)...
Is it better with third-party camera apps?
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Really... I don't think the camera is weak at all... Well to each their own..
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I am taking great shots with the stock camera... Vignette is a good app...
Sent from the One phone to rule them all!

thanks... and excuse the typo on "weak"

NYC Coyote said:
thanks... and excuse the typo on "weak"
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I was going to bite, but I did that once and someone pointed out something I misspelled years ago lol.
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Sheldor1967 said:
I am taking great shots with the stock camera... Vignette is a good app...
Sent from the One phone to rule them all!
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what does vignette do that the stock camera can't? It has lots of manual settings and has filters.
Also, I think someone said that 3rd party camera apps lower the resolution to 3.2mp.

Weak?
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I purchased Camera Zoom FX during one of those Google sales, never used it on the S3 but like you I've not been entirely satisfied with the camera on this phone. I have tried it and keep going back and forth from it to stock. I have also tried Camera JB+, Camera Pro, HDR Camera+, Vignette and a few others. Ultra-pixel aside, it is still just 4 megapixel. though I have read that that detail alone does not mean that the camera is superior or inferior. I am by no means an expert in photography, probably don't qualify as amateur. but I know there is a difference however slight between the S3 and this one. BTW, I have still not determined if a 3rd party is better.

Mine certainly seems weak. I can't seem to get it to focus on what I'm trying to get it to focus on. My kid is holding a teddy bear, I click on her face.. it grabs focus on the bear. Every once in a while it'll nail focus and get a beautiful shot but I have the issue with the screen turning red in low light too. So maybe it's the photo sensor or a firmware thing. I'm praying it's firmware because I obviously don't want a replacement device because I'll lose S-OFF.
Verizon, naturally, is no help. "Never heard of it. HTC hasn't told us anything about it. Deal with them." ... So it could just be a 'some devices' kind of thing.. but I can understand why some might think the camera is weak. Coming from an iPhone 5, which took fantastic pictures, I've been very disappointed to say the least. Obviously, YMMV.
And since I'm sure at least someone is thinking 'go back to iPhone then', I'll add. Those shots I mentioned where focus is nailed.. the pictures are great. This camera has potential. I'M just not getting the results yet.

I just got my phone replaced because my camera couldn't focus on anything further than 3 feet away. The majority of my pictures were blurry and unusable, so I went to Verizon and a rep compared it to their floor model and agreed with me. Got it replaced (although they sent me a DNA at first...) and am loving the camera now. Yea the zoom is weak, but I don't mind.

And OP, you're not crazy. But help is on the way...
http://bgr.com/2013/09/12/htc-one-camera-bug-fix/
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...issues-coming-with-android-4-3-update-1181125
Google "htc one camera issues" .. It appears those pleased with the camera are in the gross minority.. but that's lucky for them.
One of the blurbs from the article: "In fact a poll was taken recently where 328/388 users said “Yes” to their HTC One having camera problems like the one described above." For the record, that issue was the covering the lens and seeing your screen go red or blue or purple.

Fyi we can install the camera from the Google edition phones via this link
http://www.adrive.com/public/EtV5jj/com.google.android.gallery3d.apk
I've installed it and I'm getting nice pictures with the limited testing I did.
It's also got the 'photosphere' which I haven't tried but from what I read it's pretty cool sounding
Sidenote, my other half got the iPhone 5S and I played with the camera for over an hour taking pictures around the house and outside of my dogs... I wish I could rip the camera out of the 5S and put it in my HTC One...it's that good :-/
Sent from my HTC One.

one4thewings said:
And OP, you're not crazy. But help is on the way...
http://bgr.com/2013/09/12/htc-one-camera-bug-fix/
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...issues-coming-with-android-4-3-update-1181125
Google "htc one camera issues" .. It appears those pleased with the camera are in the gross minority.. but that's lucky for them.
One of the blurbs from the article: "In fact a poll was taken recently where 328/388 users said “Yes” to their HTC One having camera problems like the one described above." For the record, that issue was the covering the lens and seeing your screen go red or blue or purple.
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I'll agree with some but in the end people who don't have problems won't be looking for polls to complain. Same way to put a bias on stats by making sure you're only getting the people who will prove your point. Not saying that its great but for my person use it beats anything I've used. You can prove anything right or wrong for the main reason that the vocal ones are almost always the ones with issues.
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Thanks for this. I miss the stock Android camera. And I like the gallery layout better too.
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Fyi we can install the camera from the Google edition phones via this link
http://www.adrive.com/public/EtV5jj/com.google.android.gallery3d.apk
I've installed it and I'm getting nice pictures with the limited testing I did.
It's also got the 'photosphere' which I haven't tried but from what I read it's pretty cool sounding
Sidenote, my other half got the iPhone 5S and I played with the camera for over an hour taking pictures around the house and outside of my dogs... I wish I could rip the camera out of the 5S and put it in my HTC One...it's that good :-/
Sent from my HTC One.
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josh995 said:
Fyi we can install the camera from the Google edition phones via this link
http://www.adrive.com/public/EtV5jj/com.google.android.gallery3d.apk
I've installed it and I'm getting nice pictures with the limited testing I did.
It's also got the 'photosphere' which I haven't tried but from what I read it's pretty cool sounding
Sidenote, my other half got the iPhone 5S and I played with the camera for over an hour taking pictures around the house and outside of my dogs... I wish I could rip the camera out of the 5S and put it in my HTC One...it's that good :-/
Sent from my HTC One.
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Is it possible to install this camera alongside of the HTC One camera? It would be nice to have both. I don't want to lose some of the features of the HTC One camera.
Thanks!

Frankie1588 said:
Is it possible to install this camera alongside of the HTC One camera? It would be nice to have both. I don't want to lose some of the features of the HTC One camera.
Thanks!
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Yup! I've got it installed alongside the stock HTC camera. It also adds the stock Google "gallery" app too. Very awesome
Sent from my HTC One.

josh995 said:
Yup! I've got it installed alongside the stock HTC camera. It also adds the stock Google "gallery" app too. Very awesome
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Ohh that's cool. Didn't know that part... hmm...

Stitching
Anyone able to get their photosphere pictures to stitch together properly with the GPE camera app? Mine are totally jacked! The stitching cuts out big parts of the pictures.

nrfitchett4 said:
what does vignette do that the stock camera can't? It has lots of manual settings and has filters.
Also, I think someone said that 3rd party camera apps lower the resolution to 3.2mp.
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Blue image is the HTC Camera app, The other is Vignette... Vignette is extremely flexible, but not at all easy to use...I like it's filters. But, by and large, I am getting great shots with the stock app...I really hope that update fixes the purple/blue issues because it obviously is a software issue. If Vignette can get it right, then HTC should be able to...
I did not like the results of the google edition camera...too bright and oversaturated...

Focal now in Beta in Google Play Store
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