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I must be a complete noob. But i've been trying to figure out how to use this program, but i don't know how to turn it on? Not listed under widget or apps or... how in the world do i try this out??!
You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
tmac said:
You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
If you don't have the update it'll work without root and you don't need to remove sense.
On the other hand, if you have the update you will need to root your phone first.
Davwf26 said:
I must be a complete noob. But i've been trying to figure out how to use this program, but i don't know how to turn it on? Not listed under widget or apps or... how in the world do i try this out??!
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That is because it is not technically an app, at least not the type that you are accustomed to using. Do this to get it to work.
1. Go to Settings ---> Applications ---> Manage Applications
2. After the list loads scroll down to HTC Sense, tap "Clear Defaults" and "Force Stop"
Touch the home button and it should give you an option on which launcher you would like to load.
Hope this helps!
michaelvibe said:
That is because it is not technically an app, at least not the type that you are accustomed to using. Do this to get it to work.
1. Go to Settings ---> Applications ---> Manage Applications
2. After the list loads scroll down to HTC Sense, tap "Clear Defaults" and "Force Stop"
Touch the home button and it should give you an option on which launcher you would like to load.
Hope this helps!
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Already rooted and running fresh. And apparently this came with the most recent fresh update, but had no idea out to try it out! So thanks! This is exactly what i needed.
disabling sense and using the stock launcher was the only way to get my computer to see my phone. i tried launcher pro but my comp will not see my phone now, very very frustrating.
Neotelos_com said:
Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
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Really?
I've been in root land so I haven't used it and I'm not positive, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't BLOCK other launchers, I think it just doesn't include the 2.1 AOSP launcher "Launcher 2."
As far as the system cares, your home screen is just an app like a browser or music app, it is just a matter of disabling which one is set as default. This can be done in the applications menu via the method described above, or you may find the application "Home Switcher" useful if you like to try out different home screen launchers?
I certainly could be wrong, but I would be surprised if they blocked the ability to turn off sense as the default.
You do not need to be rooted to use either ADW.Launcher nor LauncherPro.
I highly doubt the launcher is causing your computer to not see the device.
tmac said:
You won't want to use it unless you are rooted and remove HTC Sense.
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Why? What does rooting, or removing Sense, have to do with using an alternative launcher? Take your time, be specific.
Neotelos_com said:
Not exactly...the new update blocks you from using other launchers.
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No, the new OTA removes the stock Launcher2. It doesn't block anything.
If you don't have the update it'll work without root and you don't need to remove sense.
On the other hand, if you have the update you will need to root your phone first.
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Wrong. You can either use the Force Close trick to get Sense to close, or you can just grab Home Switcher from the Market and use that to close Sense.
DraginMagik said:
You do not need to be rooted to use either ADW.Launcher nor LauncherPro.
I highly doubt the launcher is causing your computer to not see the device.
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I doubt it either, but wit the stock launcher as default my comp saw my phone n that was the only way, wouldnt work wit sense. Wit the new update, they removed the launcher so i tried launcher pro as default n it didnt work. But the weird thing is that my computer at work sees my phone wit no problem, so it must be something within my comp that i cant seem to figure out. n my comp is fully updated n drivers are all up to date so its weird.
I just loaded launcher pro last night. Took me a while to figure it out too as it is NOT in the apps and there are NO instructions.
Is it just me...or is there some conspiracy in Android land to NEVER HAVE ANY INSTRUCTIONS!!!!!!!!
grrrr
Anyway...somehow one time I tapped the home button on phone and it popped up with a window that asked which one I wanted to use. No idea how I got it, but there it was. It had stock android, launcher, and sense listed. (I am still pre-ota). I have played around with all three.
However...honestly...I found launcher to be a complete slow tortoise! Seriously. Everyone hatin on Sense and Launcher was the slowest thing I have ever seen. And I hadn't even added any apps to it. Not sure I like it at all.
Only cool bit is the home screen rotation...which is what I was looking for. I should go leave comments on this....
LauncherPro is a speed demon and is great to use (been doing so since I found out about it).
I have no idea why it would be slow for you at all.
Cuz he has sense still running I would think
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Be sure to clean slate your HTC Sense Launcher. I am running EVOlution V9 now, so can't remember exactly where the option is; but it's there somewhere. I installed Launcher Pro on my Stock ROM yesterday before rooting and loved it. Everything worked great once I deleted everything off of my HTC Sense Launcher and set Launcher Pro to default. Running it on Froyo now as well.
thorpe24 said:
Cuz he has sense still running I would think
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You think? I heard so many great things about it, but it is nasty slow on my machine. So if I choose it from that pop up window...then you think sense is still trying to run but with that launcher??
So...how is this done? You have to actually get rid of sense or can you turn it off without root?
(ps...i do plan to root, but not until i make a decision in my 30 day period...yes, i have commitment issues!)
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You think? I heard so many great things about it, but it is nasty slow on my machine. So if I choose it from that pop up window...then you think sense is still trying to run but with that launcher??
So...how is this done? You have to actually get rid of sense or can you turn it off without root?
(ps...i do plan to root, but not until i make a decision in my 30 day period...yes, i have commitment issues!)
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Open Sense again. I think if you hit menu, something like "Scenes" or similar will appear. Select that and select "Clean Slate." That should clear your Sense homescreen.
Then try Launcher Pro again.
While I study for the GRE, I do a lot of switching between OneNote and some other app ( eg dictionary ). Considering the slowness of loading recent apps, it gets a bit annoying considering the number of times I need to switch between the two. Hoping for a way to switch between the two most recent apps without actually going into recent apps.
Can either app work in multi view?
Onenote is for reading so would rather avoid having a split view
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andy_d0 said:
Onenote is for reading so would rather avoid having a split view
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You could try MW enabler (Search for it in the play store) It doesn't require root, and it would allow you to take one (or both) of the apps and shrink them down into a bubble, that you could easily open and close and hide. In your situation it might be an option.
There are some limitations due to it not needing root... the 2 biggest are that it has to uninstall and reinstall the app... you will lose whatever you have unless you have it backed up somewhere (wouldn't think its a big deal for a dictionary) and you need to turn OFF auto updating for those apps, because if they update from the play store you will lose the multi window/bubble feature until you re-activate it.
Yeah not sure if I like that option thanks for the info. If it irritates me enough the next few days I will likely reconsider
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boufa said:
You could try MW enabler (Search for it in the play store) It doesn't require root, and it would allow you to take one (or both) of the apps and shrink them down into a bubble, that you could easily open and close and hide. In your situation it might be an option.
There are some limitations due to it not needing root... the 2 biggest are that it has to uninstall and reinstall the app... you will lose whatever you have unless you have it backed up somewhere (wouldn't think its a big deal for a dictionary) and you need to turn OFF auto updating for those apps, because if they update from the play store you will lose the multi window/bubble feature until you re-activate it.
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Didn't know this was possible without root. Awesome! And it removes it from the list of installed apps for you so no fear of auto updates.
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andy_d0 said:
While I study for the GRE, I do a lot of switching between OneNote and some other app ( eg dictionary ). Considering the slowness of loading recent apps, it gets a bit annoying considering the number of times I need to switch between the two. Hoping for a way to switch between the two most recent apps without actually going into recent apps.
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Give switchr a try. l set it up in "Flow" mode and use a right side edge trigger. Seems to work well for switching between applications.
Umm just drag your finger down and in from the top right corner of the screen while in app. Then you can minimize it to a bubble or have multiple apps open at once on the screen.
right you can windowize the app... then all apps that are windowed can be iconized by pressing the home key.
I'll have to watch a video on YouTube to see what you're referring to. New to this whole multi window thing
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andy_d0 said:
I'll have to watch a video on YouTube to see what you're referring to. New to this whole multi window thing
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This was helpful:
Thank you! I'll watch on my way to work
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Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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So the Note 4 is actually my first device I've owned where I didn't have an unlocked bootloader. Because of this, I'm not sure whether all the modifications I've made to my past devices were enabled because I had an unlocked bootloader.
The only thing I know we can't do is install custom roms.
So... that leaves me with a question. What kinds of things can we do with just root?
On top of that, I have some specific questions (Might think of more later) :
Will root let us be able to install the auto-brightness control that the international version of the Note 4 has? If you don't know, you're able to adjust how low or high the auto brightness stages will go without turning off auto brightness on that version. It's so much nicer than having to turn off auto, adjust to where you want, and then remember to turn auto back on when you leave that environment.
Can we remap the capacitive multitask button to be a menu button instead? And to remap long-pressing that button to be the new multitask?
Thanks!
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
droidx2.3.3 said:
There's safe strap which allows us to have custom roms.
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did they get a safestrap to work?
I'm assuming that they will. I suppose I should have worded my post different.
So it should have said, if we get safe strap we will be able to have custom roms.
It's not quiet the same as a unlocked bootloader though.
We have root?
what proof?
Well regardless of whether we have custom roms through some other means, I'd personally most interested in those 2 questions I stated. That's honestly the things I want most with root at the moment.
Where is root?
Root has not been proven yet. Patience. Everyone is jumping the gun here.
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
Hobox10 said:
Guys, please. The point of my thread is NOT whether the root claim is a lie or not. I am asking some questions about what can be done with it regardless, so please, if anyone knows inform me, but don't post guessing games of whether it is real or not.
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My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
dr12volt1338 said:
My main and only real reason for wanting root is for Ad Block ESPECIALLY in youtube. I hate those commercials... You can install Ad Block without root (as I just did) but it just doesn't seem to work as well as it did with my last rooted device... Although I'm not sure if this is the app devs getting more creative with how they get ads through or possibly even a Lollipop things...
The other main reason was so Rocket Player could delete podcasts I had already listened too.. That was resolved with the Lollipop update so I am good to go there...
Some really like Root for Titanium backup to back up ALL app data and settings... This was handy for me back when I was flashing ROMS all the time but without that capability I don't see myself having much of a need for that since the games I play store the data in the Android folder which I don't need root to copy/backup
Another great thing that has come about the last year or so is Xposed modules.. These give you just about ANY customization you could possibly want but of course in order to use them you will also need root..... There is a great app that pulls the commercials from Youtube which I will be checking out if Root is actually here... As I said before I hate hate the ads... Not that I don't buy FULL versions of some of the apps if I find them useful because I do... But with things like Chrome and Youtube I really miss the option of them being disabled... Yes I know Firefox has this built in but I like y Chrome for the ability to send pages from my PC to my phone with the click of a button....
I find that the Note 4 with the help of Apex PRO has helped me gain many of the features I once wanted Root and the ability to flash things for... So now I am just looking for the ability to kill some ads....
There are also a few apps I would delete or freeze with Titanium Backup once we had that option... Turning them off is nice but I want the space back...
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I'm with you on the adblock and it's one of the things I've been looking forward too also. The ads mobile gets is ridiculous, I'm fine with them on most websites on the computer but the mobile versions really kill some things.
Xposed is an interesting topic to me, I've never had any experience with it since I've never really needed it. It will be fun to see what they do. Thanks for the info.
root
Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
52yt said:
Do you know if they release their root tool now? If they do, where is it?
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The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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2swizzle said:
The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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Good point I forgot about being able to add multi window for non supported apps... It would be really nice for Tapatalk to support it
Ooh multi-window on almost any app sounds awesome!
you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
djnikkofb said:
you can remove pre-loaded carrier apps that cause sluggish instability. improve battery life, and speed up application start times.
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Just an fyi: You can disable bloatware without having root by using @gatesjunior's Debloater utility. Here's the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2998294
2swizzle said:
The tool is not out. He's asking what can be done with root.
I want to delete all bloatware, install multi window for all apps, adblock, mxtube downloader, and xposed for 4.4.4
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Daciple said:
Mw-pen app enabler, ive been using since i got this phone. Let's you add apps to multi window. Should work for non system apps. It's worked for me. been my solution until we get root, if we do.
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I had no idea that existed or was possible without root. Great find!
Amazon's parental control Freetime app does not appear to be very useful. It seems to allow me to select only those apps downloaded from the Amazon app store, and not choose from all installed on the tablet (including the ones from Google Play).
has anyone found an alternative? I'd hate to have to go through a paying service (although, Remote Screen Time seems to work best, but still costs $5/month).
thanks!
jco23 said:
Amazon's parental control Freetime app does not appear to be very useful. It seems to allow me to select only those apps downloaded from the Amazon app store, and not choose from all installed on the tablet (including the ones from Google Play).
has anyone found an alternative? I'd hate to have to go through a paying service (although, Remote Screen Time seems to work best, but still costs $5/month).
thanks!
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This one is free and works VERY well!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kiddoware.kidsplace&hl=en
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Have you tried the "Screen Time Parental Control" app? I use it.
Kids Place would be great, but the home button can't be locked by the kids place app, because the fire launcher always starts if pressing the home button. So it is not a parental controled app...
Has anyone any idea how to make the lock possible ? Are there root rights necessary ?
Thanks,
Klaus
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Kids Place would be great, but the home button can't be locked by the kids place app, because the fire launcher always starts if pressing the home button. So it is not a parental controled app...
Has anyone any idea how to make the lock possible ? Are there root rights necessary ?
Thanks,
Klaus
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I deleted ghee fire launcher and am using another launcher and so the home button works fine on kids place for my son. Yes you need root to delete the fire launcher.
How habe you deleted? Which launcher do you use ? Do you habe the fire 5.1.1 ?
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How habe you deleted? Which launcher do you use ? Do you habe the fire 5.1.1 ?
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I use Smart Launcher. My device is rooted and it's running 5.0.1. It was a birthday gift for my 4 year old. I rooted it and disabled updates and deleted the fire launcher after I installed Smart Launcher. So I don't do anything with it now myself unless it's installing some new game for my 4 year old. Is 5.1.1 not able to be rooted? I'm not keeping up with the scene on this tablet because I don't use it myself, only when I set it up for my son, and it was on 5.0.1 after whatever initial update it got when I first turned it on.
Anyone a kids Place or secured APP running on a 5.1.1 fire?
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Anyone a kids Place or secured APP running on a 5.1.1 fire?
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Not yet.
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ok, with supertool (see link at the bottom), just install google playstore and novalauncher. Permanent root is not necessary ! It worked perfectly for me and kids place doing well !
Please notice that a factory reset and a 5.1.1 version is needed before using the super tool from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=64358332#post64358332
I tried AppLock from Qizmodo, has been perfect, but isn't working with 5.1.1 anymore. Really sad. So maybe Mobile Fence will work, website says it is compatible with 5.1.1.
I don't wanna just lock apps, but set a time limit for e.g. games so that my daughter is able to use the musci player all day, but will not play games for several hours. If someone has an idea how to get AppLock running again, would be great. I contacted the company itself, but doesn't seem they are working on the app anymore.
Have you tried supertool to get novalauncher ? Maybe that can cope with applocker.
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Have you tried supertool to get novalauncher ? Maybe that can cope with applocker.
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I don't see the benefit of novalauncher. I can hide unused apps, ok. But I want to use some apps with a predefined time limit. So I installed some nice games, want to define the group "games" and set a time limit for their usage, let's say 1h daily. I find no way to do that with novalauncher...
Try Nester, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=co.mindquake.nester&hl=en
I used the free version of dinner time, but the pay version(3.99) adds a couple non essential stuff.
petermg said:
I deleted ghee fire launcher and am using another launcher and so the home button works fine on kids place for my son. Yes you need root to delete the fire launcher.
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Same here. But it's still possible for the kids to use "parent apps", when they let list the recently used apps (right symbol after swiping up from the bottom).
chaosp said:
Same here. But it's still possible for the kids to use "parent apps", when they let list the recently used apps (right symbol after swiping up from the bottom).
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You can simply disable that via the Kids Place - Parental Control app!!!
I found a good one: lollipop launcher by mobint. It allows you to lock apps on home screen and hide others on app drawer. It's free too. I recommend it.
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You can simply disable that via the Kids Place - Parental Control app!!!
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I can't find this option in the settings of Kids Place (disabling switching between the recently run apps). Where is it?
i use this launcher with my rooted kindle fire for my children
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hootapps.slauncher
After I get a new unit for availing the Note 7 recall program I am planning to root. Aside from seeing the "knox 0x1 or 1x0?" what are the other disadvantages of a rooted Note 7? We'll maybe except for warranty.
My reasons to root:
XPOSED Framework :laugh:
Cheers
Uses of sixaxis controller if you got a ps3/4 unless you try to use all those other third party controller that can be use without root.
Flux "root only preview". I like this one the best so far but as it a preview still it have some quirts that dont work right.
Other Root app I guess SD Maid, Carbon, and a few others.
I'm trying to figure out what the disadvantage of root as in what app wont work if rooted even with RootCloak
well, dont forget ad blocking, I also like gmd gesture control, xposed of course, ifon, among many other apps
root is life.
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root is life.
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Great argument!
I still dont see what root offers nowadays. I used to root my HTC One, S2, etc etc to allow for some apps but nowadays, Android appears to have nearly all the functionality that i need without rooting.
m00moo said:
Great argument!
I still dont see what root offers nowadays. I used to root my HTC One, S2, etc etc to allow for some apps but nowadays, Android appears to have nearly all the functionality that i need without rooting.
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For me thats the opposite, ive been tweak developer on ios. I still hack games as a hobby. No root no phone for me. I come straight from sony phones so its really different and a big change but ill manage lol. If i cant have a custom recovery, xposed & root on a phone, i will just abandon it like i did with the s5.
I always rooted my devices, but now planing on not doing so I want those security patches and OTA ofc... reflashing ROMs and setting up all form the start is pain in the ass. But i will miss xposed, adaway
Root when they no longer support your device =P