Forgive me if this has already been answered (I cannot find one, but please point me to the thread if there is one).
I currently run an HTC Desire with Cyanogen 7.1 on it. I have a number of purchased apps that run great on this.
I'm thinking of upgrading to the Nexus, but before I do so, I was wondering if my purchased apps, particularly Co-pilot 8, will run ok on the nexus.
Thanks!
They should, it's another phone, but it's the same OS. Only difference is that it's been updated and optimized.
But you can find some rare cases where the update of the OS make de apps unstable, but like i said it's rare.
There may be a few issues now that the device has just been released, but generally moving forward everything will be Android 4.0, which of course also means that apps will be updated to fix any lingering bugs specific to Android 4.0
there's already been listed a whole bunch of apps that doesn't work on ICS 4.0
just wait for new version to become available
BTW, this is expected of every new OS version upgrade
it happened from 1.5 to 2.0 then again from 2.0 to 2.1, then again from 2.1 to 2.2, and again from 2.2 to 2.3
so, no need to be surprised if 50% of the purchased apps don't work with 4.0
just email, call or contact your developer and they will send you a new compatible release as soon as it becomes available, for example Gameloft customer support is very nice at that
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I bought my Hero a few weeks ago because I dug the SenseUI (it looked better than the standard Android UI) and because there was an update to 2.1 promised.
At the moment I'm a little bit afraid of two things:
1. There will not be an update. There really are great apps out there requiring 2.0+ and many features I could use like built in VPN support.
2. If there will be an update it might look ugly as hell. From what I've seen from the leaked Expresso ROM, I can only hope that they won't do that ugly **** for the Hero update... actually I just hope they will never really release that design. The current SenseUI looks original, slick, elegant, starting with the home screen, to the individual app icon designs. Sounds stupid, but that stuff really looks neat unlike the Expresso UI I've seen (oh, too much rambling here)
Now, if all goes bad... is it possible to extract the Nexus One ROM and use it on the HTC? After all the Hardware is not too different and should work with a little bit of adjustment.
In general, I'm really amazed by what is going on here... but most ROMs seem to be a modification/theming orgy rather than a decent port of a decent, more advanced OS version. I don't mean to offend anyone. After all, these ROMs are great for people interested into all that modding and theming and all. But for me, it's important to have a nice looking and working OS, not so much community modifications.
well you can't argue about taste, so i'll leave that part out. my bets would go on something looking at least similar to the espresso leak.
there will be an update, that's for sure. it is only a matter of time, i hope not too much time...
about porting the nexus rom, i wouldn't hold my breath for it. the hardware might be not so different, but from how i see it the hero is a ***** when it comes to hardware. this is also the reason why there is only about a dozen roms at all, and the only one without compromises is mcr. look at the g1 section, they literally drown in roms.
and for starters, the nexus has the snapdragon cpu, which seems to be at least one generation further evolved when it comes to mobile computing power, i don't see it coming...
don´t worry .
i read a rumor in the morning that htc is going to release on february 15th
Yes, we will get Nexus version.
Simply put, Nexus is pretty much standard 2.1 Android.
so far, people like Lox have been working on getting version 2.0 & 2.01 running on the Hero, but now that 2.1 SDK has been released they will start working on that. But it will help when HTC release the source code for their own 2.1 version as that will give them all the drivers etc they need.
The only thing I can see causing problems are the live wallpapers, but I believe that people are getting these to run on the G1 so you never know what is possible.
I've been running 2.0.1 software with all the latest gallery,navigation etc apps for a while now so expect 2.1 versions soon.
PS I installed the Expresso version on my phone and uninstalled straight away. Reminds me way too much of HTC's Windows Mobile software !
GXFX said:
don´t worry .
i read a rumor in the morning that htc is going to release on february 15th
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and where did you read that?
furrypotato said:
people like Lox have been working on getting version 2.0 & 2.01 running on the Hero, but now that 2.1 SDK has been released they will start working on that. But it will help when HTC release the source code for their own 2.1 version as that will give them all the drivers etc they need.
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Two points!
1. The 2.1 SDK is *not* the source code for Android 2.1. The the tools and libraries required to build Android 2.1 applications, not the OS itself. As far as I'm aware, the 2.1 OS code has not been dropped into the AOSP (Android Open Source Project).
2. HTC are only required to release the source code to the kernel as this is licensed under the GPL, though this will contain the hardware drivers. HTC's version of 2.1 itself does not ever need to be released as the Android source code is licensed under the ASL which is not a copyleft license.
Regards,
Dave
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that will give them all the drivers etc they need.
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yeah, i wouldn't be so sure about that. the kernel sources for the g1 kernel .29 are out, doesn't help a tiny bit for the hero so far...
kendong2 said:
well you can't argue about taste, so i'll leave that part out. my bets would go on something looking at least similar to the espresso leak.
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You are right of course... if they release an upgrade to 2.1 it's logical that they develop and use that for the Espresso. So I guess it will be the same as the Espresso ROM. I just hope that the Espresso ROM won't look like the leaks.
While you can't argue about taste... you have to admit, that the UI looks (stylewise) quite different to the original Sense UI. Usually I wouldn't mind change. Just take Apple's UI, or Google's UI on the web as well as in Android releases. They usually stay the same, sometimes adding more colors, using gradients, etc. and you still recognize the original style. It usually takes very long until a system has changed so much that you can't recognize it's origins. Take the difference between XP and Vista. Was quite huge. Now the difference between XP and Win7 was minimal (stylewise).
Now, in the leaked Espresso rom I can't recognize the old SenseUI at all, except for the widgets, which can be removed / customized anyway and are not the main concern of HTC's developers right now.
Well, in case it looks to my disliking:
I know, that Sense UI as a whole is not just a plugin but the visually relevant parts (home screen, lock screen, mesages app, mail app, contacts app etc.) are mainly applications, right? (Well, the designs for menu lists, like in "settings" are not apps I guess, but they don't bother me as they look the same in the current UI version) How hard do you think would it be to extract the old apps and replace their counterparts in the new ROM?
This could maybe even be done without rooting, like it's possible for the lock screen and home screen. I dunno about replacing the Standard htc apps though.
felikz said:
and where did you read that?
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Look here - http://www.androidcentral.com/rumors-say-european-htc-hero-get-android-21-february
Sir_Oliver said:
Look here - ...
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Well the rumor that it's going to be released in February... come one... HTC said it will release in 1Q2010 which leaves January to March. February is right in the middle so they just say February.
That alone, ok, but what about the list of features. It seems to be put together from previous rumors and leaked ROMs noone even knows of whether they apply to the Hero update.
I'd take such a rumor, originally from some obscure Polish website (not to say anything against Poland, but it's a local website and the rumor hasn't surfaced from a more global site anywhere else), with a (huge) grain of salt.
I'm with Olafos here. I've now tried a 2.0 and 2.1 ROM, but come back to MCR3.1 within a few hours. It's not even all totally about visuals, as I think had been mentioned. The contacts widget, giving me my favourite contacts on my homescreen is used a lot by me. The group text is used quite a bit too.
The contacts, messages and other things just don't look very nice on standard 2.1. When the Bravo comes out (or before) with 2.1 have these cool Sense UI additions?
How much different will the Nexus One be to what 2.1 on my Hero looks like? Right now it's totally put me off upgrading. I really want a bigger screen and snapdragon CPU, but I would miss the amazing UI and funcitonality of my Hero on 1.5 with Sense UI :-/
olafos said:
You are right of course... if they release an upgrade to 2.1 it's logical that they develop and use that for the Espresso. So I guess it will be the same as the Espresso ROM. I just hope that the Espresso ROM won't look like the leaks.
While you can't argue about taste... you have to admit, that the UI looks (stylewise) quite different to the original Sense UI. Usually I wouldn't mind change. Just take Apple's UI, or Google's UI on the web as well as in Android releases. They usually stay the same, sometimes adding more colors, using gradients, etc. and you still recognize the original style. It usually takes very long until a system has changed so much that you can't recognize it's origins. Take the difference between XP and Vista. Was quite huge. Now the difference between XP and Win7 was minimal (stylewise).
Now, in the leaked Espresso rom I can't recognize the old SenseUI at all, except for the widgets, which can be removed / customized anyway and are not the main concern of HTC's developers right now.
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ok, point taken
olafos said:
Well, in case it looks to my disliking:
I know, that Sense UI as a whole is not just a plugin but the visually relevant parts (home screen, lock screen, mesages app, mail app, contacts app etc.) are mainly applications, right? (Well, the designs for menu lists, like in "settings" are not apps I guess, but they don't bother me as they look the same in the current UI version) How hard do you think would it be to extract the old apps and replace their counterparts in the new ROM?
This could maybe even be done without rooting, like it's possible for the lock screen and home screen. I dunno about replacing the Standard htc apps though.
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i have no idea about backward compatibility of the android system... just try it with one of the 2.0 roms? i'd bet on foobar if you mix 1.5 sense parts with 2.x, but don't let that stop you from romcooking
I just realized I said:
"Now the difference between XP and Win7 was minimal (stylewise). "
Of course I meant Vista and Win7
Ich will nicht wirklich eigene Roms machen...mir fehlt leider die Zeit. Hoechstes der Gefuehle waere evtl. zu rooten und zu schauen was läuft
I think Android apps are backwards compatible, not so sure about the HTC Sense UI integrated ones though.
I am a newbie to WinMo and Android devices.
I know it is possible to run Android on HTC window mobile pre-installed device, with the matter of the non-working camera.
I wanna know actually what is process/method which can makes Android possibly runs on HTC diamond, and does it mean once we have this boot system, we can boot any Android even the latest 2.2 Froyo?
All I want is to get some knowledge which can help me to step into this area, I love software engineering and find that this forum is the one which most positive users come, so hopefully I can start building sth from sketch in here.
Many thanks in advance, and thanks for the patiences and the kindness of knowledge sharing.
Hi, as you said, it is currently possible to boot an Android system from a WinMo one. But they are some issues left, mainly the battery life. Indeed, battery drains pretty fast with Android (and the indicator is not accurate at all).
Concerning Froyo (2.2), I ran many android systems on my Diamond 100, and Eclair versions (2.1) are really very slow, that is why I am currently using a Donut version (1.6), which is pretty fast and stable. So I'm not sure the Diamond will be able to run smoothly Froyo.
Last thing: today, the only way to have a working Android is to boot on WinMo and then launch a program (Haret) which will "kill" WinMo and boot to Android from internal storage (or SD card for other devices). There is currently no way of flashing an Android as you can do with WinMo.
Hope we'll get asap a fully working Android for our WinMo's HTCs
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Hi, as you said, it is currently possible to boot an Android system from a WinMo one. But they are some issues left, mainly the battery life. Indeed, battery drains pretty fast with Android (and the indicator is not accurate at all).
Concerning Froyo (2.2), I ran many android systems on my Diamond 100, and Eclair versions (2.1) are really very slow, that is why I am currently using a Donut version (1.6), which is pretty fast and stable. So I'm not sure the Diamond will be able to run smoothly Froyo.
Last thing: today, the only way to have a working Android is to boot on WinMo and then launch a program (Haret) which will "kill" WinMo and boot to Android from internal storage (or SD card for other devices). There is currently no way of flashing an Android as you can do with WinMo.
Hope we'll get asap a fully working Android for our WinMo's HTCs
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instead i think that froyo will run well...because yesterday i saw some benchmark over the nexus one and the preformance were multiplyied by 2...and i saw the internet browsing benchmark and was the fastest browser i saw
So let's hope you are right about Froyo =)
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So let's hope you are right about Froyo =)
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i hope it too..i love android...i'm waiting for froyo and for a flashable android...i don't like a lot wm
And so do I ^^ I recently tried the Desire with Android 2.1, and I'll certainly buy one when I'll change my Diamond =)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess you are the one trying to cook a Sense XDAndroid ?
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And so do I ^^ I recently tried the Desire with Android 2.1, and I'll certainly buy one when I'll change my Diamond =)
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I guess you are the one trying to cook a Sense XDAndroid ?
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i was trying but i was having porblem using ubuntu(no ethernet,no wireless and some other things) so when i will resolve those problem i will start
so haret in fact is a simulator?? just to provide a simulated environment to run Android?
If I'm right, Haret isn't a simulator. It is a program which, launched under WinMo, will kill all WinMo processes and boot on internal storage with Android files. Have you ever tried it?
if you want to try it the easy way:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=5420781#post5420781
there is an cab to download, just install it
than you can run android
bewhare, android uses a huge amount of internetactivity ( maybe it costs money with your telephon provider )
or just for testing remove the sim card...
its the easy way to run android, for multiboot
you need to install a multibootmanager on your phone
for me there are some problems with android on the diamond,
i get sometimes time outs of some programs, but its possible to use it... and test it...
maybe some thing in settings but i tryed it only for some hours ( telephonprovier... i got only 300 minutes of mobile internet connection for free )
but remember, back up your data...
Hi guys,
Can't find any threads on this, so I figure out maybe it's only happening to me?
I went back from CyanogenMod 7.1 to the latest WWE stock ROM. (Android 2.3.3, HTC Sense 2.1, Build 2.42.405.4).
I can't seem to find a way to install Google Play. I would imagine it would come as an update, OTA or from the market itself.
Can't get used to the old Market again, looks so silly, like Windows 3.1!
Is there a way to install Google Play? Or do you have it by default?
Apparently HTC Desire Z is not on the supported devices list in Google Play. :silly:
If anyone is curious, the reason to go back to original ROM was:
- Adobe Flash based accelerated video playback (black video)
- poor signal or switch between 2G/3G caused system hangs and weird behaviour when using data
- HTC Sense is really good at integrating contacts
- HTC has a better camera (or at least has some nice features like face-focus)
- problems with GPS fix and the GPS bug from Android 2.3 (but fixed and unreleased by HTC)
I am using ADW launcher as HTC Sense Home Screen is a CPU and memory hog and gets killed very often by Android for memory.
Cheers!
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download-google-play-apk-3-5-19/
well there are plenty of roms to choose from that are better than stock, but your choice on going back!
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well there are plenty of roms to choose from that are better than stock, but your choice on going back!
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thank you demkantor for this workaround.
I am still curious what's wrong with this market update and wether downloading from theandroidsoul is required for everyone.
OTOH, can someone recommend a ROM that doesn't have all these mentioned problems?
I have had my HTC One X for a while after I ditched my Sony Xperia Acro S.
I currently love the phone but is it worth it to upgrade to CyanogenMod (10)?
Or should I just wait for the official JB Update.
The reason why I am asking this question is because I have heard that when you root your phone and install a custom ROM, HTC would refuse to give OTA to those certain phones that were rooted/flashed. Is this true? or can I just root/flash without worry?
Just wanted to hear some thoughts.
Foot Note:
I know the JB update isn't out yet so we can't review it and the leaked ones aren't official but I'm just curious if its worth upgrading the CM 10.
OTA is a patch, so it can't be applied to a different ROM.
If you restore your original ROM, you will be able to receive updates. If you restore original recovery, you can install the update.
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OTA is a patch, so it can't be applied to a different ROM.
If you restore your original ROM, you will be able to receive updates. If you restore original recovery, you can install the update.
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Thanks for your reply. That was a typo error. I meant to say phones that were formerly rooted or flashed were not allowed to receive OTAs anymore for the stock rom but anyway, thank you.
Ooshi said:
I currently love the phone but is it worth it to upgrade to CyanogenMod (10)?
Or should I just wait for the official JB Update
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Depends really just on you. But if you are unlocked already. You can try it out and revert back as Ben said.
If you hate Sense as me, and like CM, CM10 can be your choice.
I have only few issues with CM10 but wont switch back to Stock despite them.
The issues I am still facing is:
1. flickering, despite different kernels, stock rom has this figured out better
2. WiFi also stock ROM much better, on CM it wont switch in my network to a better AP no matter what I do....
But thats about it it has many benefits for me. Some of them, that come to top of my head.
1. DPI Change to 240 and I wont have tweak the notification bar (also it has the nice color change on connect to google + percentage)
2. Updates, I love nightlies
3. Fast but so fast... no unnecessary crap
4. Multitasking much better as on Stock where its non existing
I love CM/AOKP (and all the builds based upon), but due to HTC's laziness and closed nature, the 'best & latest' drivers for the One X will always be with Sense. That is in respect to the latest kernel, camera framework, beats & audio drivers. Yeah sure HTC release their kernel sources eventually, but usually by the time they have a new kernel from them is out. I dread to think about when the community will get the 3.1 sources.
The camera is the biggest loss for me, the Sense camera, especially with the JB camera build is just far better than any CM/AOKP camera or Play Store app I've tried. To even come close we really need someone to take the camera out of CM/AOKP (or create a new app) and modify/update it solely for the One X.
When running Sense I really miss proper density settings (Sense crashes on density lower than 300), and with most ROMs I have to spend time de-bloating.
With all the hardware issues I've had with my One X at the start, HTC's retarded bootloader warranty policy, and other general unhappiness, I'm going with a Google phone next time - Best community support and openness. 3rd parties seem to only care about pushing their own software, most of which is just bad compared to AOSP. Then don't get me started on contract branded handsets, I don't know how people on here can handle getting updates soo late.
I prefer cyanogenmod ben it is true that SENSE bring many interesting feature ! :good:
I like the AOSP/CM10 look of Android, but there are issues that annoyed me and forced me to go back to sense roms. Flickering, Wifi, Battery and the most important one was Camera.
Now usually I get a sense rom and de-sense it.
Ooshi said:
Thanks for your reply. That was a typo error. I meant to say phones that were formerly rooted or flashed were not allowed to receive OTAs anymore for the stock rom but anyway, thank you.
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HTC Wouldn't do that! They provided the ways to get root, so in a sort of way they support it.
Cyan Delta App
As an aside, if you switch to Cyanogenmod 10 you can use the Cyan Delta app from the Play Store. This is brilliant if you like the nightlies as it only downloads the actual changes and not the full rom.
This app really makes life easy if you like flashing a rom daily. Saves repeatedly loading all your apps and settings, etc.
Just a thought!!
Regarding your question, I was going to wait for the official OTA Jelly Bean update, but got sick of waiting. For what it's worth, my highest benchmark on Antutu with CM10 is 12686 though when you go to submit it says 12706. (I'm unsure why Antutu gives you one score then adds a bit on?). Highest score on ICS stock Rom 12486 preliminary and 12518 final.
Cheers,
Dave
I'm currently on the summer 2021 release of the Verizon stock rom based on Android 11 and ONE UI 3.1, but have been hearing about newer versions based on Android 12. I'm fairly happy with the performance of the existing combination, (the speed and battery life are nothing short of epic) but have never found a solution for the longstanding bug where audio playback inside of Shazam is choppy.
My question to the community is if newer builds of the stock rom fix the choppy Shazam audio playback, and also, whether or not they break the Wichita version of the Google Camera app, which I rely on extensively (unless there's a less-broken distribution that I haven't heard about yet, in which case, lay it on me!).
Well, I finally bit the bullet and chomped down all the dirty/in-place updates for both the stock rom based on Android 11 and Android 12. After I inserted a T-Mobile-branded sim card, it set off a whirlwind of changes, including switching the stock rom from the Verizon rom to the T-Moible one all by itself somehow. Lots of nasty packages to disable, but it calms down well enough after doing so. Among other things, the T-Mobile stock rom is extremely aggressive about software updates. I let it push me around this time, but after getting through the batch, I did disable the obnoxious & pushy updater.
I can confirm that choppy Shazam audio was fixed by one of those (can't remember which one) and that the Google Camera app still works in the new rom, so that's a win. The sidecar widgets are degraded, and the little animation that appears when power is connected looks kind of weird, but everything else is alright, except for the horrible widget shaping on the newer stock Samsung launcher. Also, the friendlier band switching menu is stripped out, requiring use of the dialer code to prompt the more primitive one.
If anyone was on the fence about it, as long as you're okay with those minor caveats, I'd recommend going along for the upgrade.