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Upgrade to the thunderbolt or wait?

My brother agreed to give me the upgrade on his line if I gave him my inc. So i would also have another upgrade in June 2012 so should I upgrade to the thunderbolt or keep my dinc? I'm looking for some advise as to what I should do.
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I say wait...there are a lot of new phones coming out. The thunderbolt wouldn't be worth it to me.
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I agree. The Thunderbolt is not dual-core. Plus Verizon will be getting the Xperia Play and other great phones. Including some great dual-core phones.
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If it was me I would probably wait for a dual core phone with LTE. My girlfriend has the Thunderbolt and it is not much better than my Incredible other that has the big screen that I like.

I say wait too for something with dual core, 3d cam?, and something with a battery that last longer than 3 hours

Seems as though everybody would rather wait. Lol. Seems like an easy enough decision.
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I would hold out although for you it's probably easier said than done. Hard to resist I'm sure!
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I too would wait.
I have to ask, what is the big deal about dual core processors? I mean, what are we expecting these new phones to be able to perform that our Droid Incredible can't?

I just picked up a DInc for the wife, and we now have a TBolt sitting around playing Pandora in the kitchen.
She hated it, ( TB ) but being that it was the 2nd phone she got ( she returned the iPhone ) she's stuck with it. She tried to tell me that she would give me the TB for my DInc, but I really like mine and an not willing to part with it just yet.
Long short I traded my old Eris + a ridiculously small amount of cash for what appears to be a almost new DInc and she seems to be happy with it...
For now...
So, I'd wait

Watch this video. Both of these are dual-core. Super fast compared to the incredible.
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i say wait. thunderbolt looks nice but it's not a major upgrade, especially if you're not in a LTE coverage area.
i'm holding my upgrade for the bionic or for the next HTC LTE phone, whichever come first.

The new Sense 3.0 ROMS are keeping me pretty busy that last few days and also has made it a lot easier to not want a new phone right away. Its almost like getting a new one!

I craved the Thunderbolt. I watched forums on it daily during the whole Thundergate release date situation. I finally got tired of waiting. Ended up spending the $700 on a set of recliners instead (I was going to pay full price for the TB).
Then I started sniffing around the DINC2. Same specs as TB only 4" display and no LTE. Not too shabby. Only problem I've been hearing, locked bootloader? Ugh.

i own a new Thunderbolt, and even thought the specs don't look like an improvement they really are. And even though dual core is out there, the test beween dual and single aren't that far off from each other.
Quadrant scores (which is yes invaild technically) at 1.4 oc 2690, but mostly at 2100-2300
Positives
-more ram (768 mb), which makes a insane difference, almost never lags.
-The cpu is 1 ghz but can safely over clock to 1.4 (because qualcomm has stated it is stable clock from 800mhz-1.41 ghz) and i even got it stable at 1.8
-comes preloaded with 32 gb card, nice plus. and even thought it says 8 emmc, it only has 2.8 GB or something to work with, what is still a good amount.
-screen is gorilla glass, so its tough and durable.
-camera 720p recording (rumors of 1080p with new sense roms)
-if u want to video chat then yes this phone has a front camera thats always nice.
-Even though the screen is big, it doesn't feel it. because got some width instead of just length like droid x it looks smaller.
-And o yea LTE which is insane, almost as good as Wifi N in some areas.
Negatives
-Battery Battery Battery Battery Battery SUCKS. But i upgraded to ginersense 2.1/3.0 mods and my battery life is insanely good all of a sudden.
-$250 for a phone is expensive, But Samsung LTE Charge is 300 and tech specs are same if not worse in some aspects.
-Stock comes with 2.2 but with root gingerbread is easily available.
But with any phone you got to buy it for your needs, so if you need battery throughout the day, dont even bother, but if you can lug around batteries or chargers, its a must upgrade.

Wait for sure.
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yea definitely would wait. i have a feeling this summer we will get some sweet dual core phones, and there isnt any point in getting anything less than the best out there.

+1 for waiting. I'm perfectly happy with my Dinc until something with better hardware comes along.

Oh yeah, just wait. It's what I'd do if I had the option.

Agree
azr3alazd3ycum said:
yea definitely would wait. i have a feeling this summer we will get some sweet dual core phones, and there isnt any point in getting anything less than the best out there.
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My brother has a Thunderbolt, it's pretty nice. As long as you root it, and do a few tweaks with lower voltages the battery life is pretty good (better than my incredible), but once you turn 4G on it'll be significantly worse.
I'd still say wait, unless you really want to jump into a new phone. Who knows when another comparable phone will come out.
The Thunderbolt is pretty large too, some people like that since it'll be easier to do things on- but personally I find it just more of a hassle to carry around.

Do you all love your Incredible 2's?

Do you wish you had 4G? Do you like the size? Anyone still debating between the Incredible 2 and the Thunderbolt?

My dad has the thunderbolt and I have the incredible 2. I dont think 4g is that big of a deal, though I am usually in range of wifi. The thunderbolt is borderline too big, the incredible 2 is the perfect size and naturally we both would like better battery life. I think I'll buy an extended battery for my Incredible 2 even though I rooted and am running CM7.

Yeah I currently have the Thunderbolt but am looking to swap to an Incredible when I can, it doesn't fit in my hands the greatest so I think the Incredible is the ticket.

Best android phone I have touched. I wouldn't even think about getting 4g instead of this beast.

Love it. Wifi at home and work. Not much of a need for LTE. Perfect size.
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jaynole said:
Love it. Wifi at home and work. Not much of a need for LTE. Perfect size.
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Just trying to make me jealous eh? If that's the case well played sir! Hopefully I can find someone on Swappa who wants to trade.

My honest opinion:
I wish I had 4G, but I'll take slower data speeds over terrible battery life. Disabling 4G on a Tbolt really just makes it a bloated Inc2, so I am happy with my Inc2.
If what you are really wanting to ask is if I regret the purchase, then my answer is no.

I have both a Thunderbolt and an Incredible 2, and to be perfectly honest, I can't choose between them. I've burnt through 3 LTE SIMs in just a few weeks swapping back and forth. The Thunderbolt is almost the exact phone I've wanted to come to VZW for months: The Desire HD. However, there's something about the Incredible 2 that makes me adore is so much. It's more pocketable, the battery life is head and shoulders above that of the Thunderbolt(If I'm going to be out all day with the T-Bolt, I bring my spare battery), and everything just seems smoother to me. It rekindles everything I loved about the original Incredible, but does it even better. It all comes down to whether or not you live in a 4G area. I will undoubtedly be using the Thunderbolt every day once LTE goes live here and the Incredible 2 will be cast away into a drawer somewhere until I travel out of the country and need a stellar global phone, sadly. If you don't live in a 4G area or 4G really doesn't matter to you, the Incredible 2 is hands down the best bet. It's an amazing little phone that does almost everything right. I definitely don't regret picking one up.

Mean Bro Greene said:
I have both a Thunderbolt and an Incredible 2, and to be perfectly honest, I can't choose between them. I've burnt through 3 LTE SIMs in just a few weeks swapping back and forth. The Thunderbolt is almost the exact phone I've wanted to come to VZW for months: The Desire HD. However, there's something about the Incredible 2 that makes me adore is so much. It's more pocketable, the battery life is head and shoulders above that of the Thunderbolt(If I'm going to be out all day with the T-Bolt, I bring my spare battery), and everything just seems smoother to me. It rekindles everything I loved about the original Incredible, but does it even better. It all comes down to whether or not you live in a 4G area. I will undoubtedly be using the Thunderbolt every day once LTE goes live here and the Incredible 2 will be cast away into a drawer somewhere until I travel out of the country and need a stellar global phone, sadly. If you don't live in a 4G area or 4G really doesn't matter to you, the Incredible 2 is hands down the best bet. It's an amazing little phone that does almost everything right. I definitely don't regret picking one up.
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Ha ha, thanks a heap for that mouth watering tease. I'll be picking one up as soon as I can find someone who will be willing to part with theirs for my Thunderbolt ha ha.

oddly enough, I still miss my old HD2. I dropped that thing so many times and even got pissed while I was driving and threw it. it bounced off the dash and severly cracked/damaged my windshield and the phone was still just fine. one day though I accidentally spilled a few drops of water on it and game over. r.i.p.
as for this damn Incredible 2.... I originally had a Thunderbolt but because of how terrible the battery was(even with extended) I took it back and got this. mind you I did want to get the Droid Charge instead(because they were supposed to be out at the same time) but since it was delayed and my 30 days was, nearly up, I settled for this.
I miss thr bigger screen on the Thunderbolt and the faster downloads.

voxigenboy said:
oddly enough, I still miss my old HD2. I dropped that thing so many times and even got pissed while I was driving and threw it. it bounced off the dash and severly cracked/damaged my windshield and the phone was still just fine. one day though I accidentally spilled a few drops of water on it and game over. r.i.p.
as for this damn Incredible 2.... I originally had a Thunderbolt but because of how terrible the battery was(even with extended) I took it back and got this. mind you I did want to get the Droid Charge instead(because they were supposed to be out at the same time) but since it was delayed and my 30 days was, nearly up, I settled for this.
I miss thr bigger screen on the Thunderbolt and the faster downloads.
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With the new radio the battery life has improved quite a bit, not to mention CM7 battery life is pretty damn good too, or one of Chingy51o's sense based roms. Mine gets me through a whole day, I never had problems with battery life. Just want the smaller size I have girl hands sadly lol.

in italy we don't have 4g (maybe next year) and for me the dinc2 is the best phone i can buy nowaday....
fast, stable, great display, right size, right feeling in my hand.....
now , after s-off and great roms coming out it will be the best choise for me ... ;-D

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I love the incredible 2. The extra RAM is ignored by the reviewers for some reason but it really helps. The battery puts it over the thunderbolt in my opinion.
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Love mine. 4G isn't a big deal for me, and I was never really impressed with any of the 4G phones that were out at the time I bought my Inc2.

I've had the thunderbolt since it was released in march and ultimately the battery life did it in. Great phone no doubt and I loved traveling to spots with 4g coverage and using it to tether (when it was free) but since my area of northern Los Angeles is 4g free I just don't want to deal with the battery issues when I can't utilize the battery draining network. I'm literally ten miles from the edge of 4g so I doubt they will expand up just a little bit anytime soon so that was it for the bolt.
I had the original incredible and outside of the original Droid it was my favorite Android phone. So when I decided to dump the thunderbolt I gave the Droid 3 a shot first. Wasn't a fan. Way too brick like in the pocket and I am not a fan of how the phone feels. So I returned it and went Inc2 and I couldn't be happier. Essentially the same as the thunderbolt from a performance standpoint (in 3g mode) in a smaller lighter and battery sipping 3g package. So no complaints at all and I will stick with this until I actually get 4g in my area.

I had a Charge, since I switched from T-Mobile solely for LTE. However, after about a month of it pissing battery, consistently failing to get me through a work day let alone anything afterwards, and after a couple of replacement units (hoping to find the good battery life I had heard so many people claim), and after trying to patch up all the problems in the phone, I finally had enough and traded down to the Inc2. Turns out it's an amazing phone. I like it so much I left it stock, and even took the root-blocking Gingerbread OTA. The GPS is unbelievably strong, the battery can go for days, Sense is really feature-rich and polished. On top of all of that, the hardware feels sturdy, exudes class, and disappears into your pocket. This phone is amazing.
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DigitalDementia said:
With the new radio the battery life has improved quite a bit, not to mention CM7 battery life is pretty damn good too, or one of Chingy51o's sense based roms. Mine gets me through a whole day, I never had problems with battery life. Just want the smaller size I have girl hands sadly lol.
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how does it get you through a whole day? just browsing the web for about an hour & a half(with brightness turned all the way down) kills about 30% of the battery.. that and if i watch a movie on it it kills about 40%.
so i take it you aren't constantly using the phone though?

DigitalDementia said:
Do you wish you had 4G? Do you like the size? Anyone still debating between the Incredible 2 and the Thunderbolt?
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There isn't a phone out there with any carrier that I would trade my Dinc2 for right now, except maybe the EVO 4G. I love the EVO a bunch too but the Dinc2 is just a very solid handset in every category and now that we have root the sky is the limit.

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There isn't a phone out there with any carrier that I would trade my Dinc2 for right now, except maybe the EVO 4G. I love the EVO a bunch too but the Dinc2 is just a very solid handset in every category and now that we have root the sky is the limit.
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+1 good sir!

Htc evo 3d

I have the EVO 4G for over a year now & was thinking of getting the EVO 3D .
Should I switch or stay with the EVO 4G ?
Is it worth it ?
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This is a simple answer... if you root your phone. then the answer is no.. it is NOT Worth it. if you want to use a wimax 4g network that Sprint promised us, then the answer is no. *mainly that part is because they have STOPPED ALL WIMAX UPGRADES!*
If you want a faster phone and a 3D capable phone, then this phone is for you.
Other than that, HTC and Sprint is going to have a huge loss on this phone because they are a bunch of N words and whitetrash mother F'ers.

Wait for phones to come out this fall... the Evo 3d will be old pretty soon, and they say dual core 1.5 ghz will be in phones late fall.
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i loved the hell out of mine. the pics i took of my daughter at a waterpark were freaking awesome! i though 3d would be a gimmick but it actually added a little extra to some pictures.
it's a darn fast phone to and can oc to 1.8 easily. honestly there really isn't much yet that even taxes dual 1ghz so going that high may just be overkill and epeen stuffs.
the only reason i took mine back is b/c sprint's data network has been going to **** the last month and half, but the day after i take my evo 3d back the network is better than ever! what the hell! i doubt it was the phone b/c if a few rare places i could actually get 1.2Mb/s. most other areas i could barely get 100kb/s. now i get 600-1.8Mb/s almost everywhere along my 50mi trip to work - morning and evenings. it's possible my phone was faulty, but i did do all the fixes posted in the 3d forums.
i am considering getting it again.

Stay with the 4G... If your rooted, flash Kings Kingdom (full sense 3.0) closest thing to actually owning a 3D. The 3D is just for eye candy anyway... Save your money
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My EVO 4G is rooted & I'm loving it .
I know the 3D still don't have a way to root , the reason I might Change it is because I can make a $100 if I sell mine now . The 3D is $199 & the 4G goes for $300-$330 on Craigslist .
When in the fall & what are the phones that will be available then ?
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EVO 3D or Photon 4G

Which should i go for?
Dont care for the motoblur but dont care for the 3d,
Heard evo 3d is rooted, but has many issues with phone its self
HELPP

3D has my vote. Personally, I won't even consider a phone with motoblur.
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swyrace said:
3D has my vote. Personally, I won't even consider a phone with motoblur.
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i agree but i would end up using a overlay from a launcher.

ooo tough question! I, personally, would probably go with the Photon. I don't mind motoblur (considering I would just use Launcher Pro Plus). and then root it ASAP

Motoblur is not my first choice of OS but consider you can disable 3d on the EVO 3d if you're not looking to use it.
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jayare313 said:
Motoblur is not my first choice of OS but consider you can disable 3d on the EVO 3d if you're not looking to use it.
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so ONLY the 3d content is shown via 3d, not the os n other main things right

Deal breaker - Photon has a kickstand.... screw the 3D crap and I checked it out yesterday it also has a 10 hr battery life. It will be rooted and it will be made better. I say Photon or OG Evo... I am an OG Evo owner and I will be skipping over the 3D to get a PHoton

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Deal breaker - Photon has a kickstand.... screw the 3D crap and I checked it out yesterday it also has a 10 hr battery life. It will be rooted and it will be made better. I say Photon or OG Evo... I am an OG Evo owner and I will be skipping over the 3D to get a PHoton
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i own le og evo. just cant do the 3d, but hate motoblur. but i love sense

leo72793 said:
i own le og evo. just cant do the 3d, but hate motoblur. but i love sense
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I agree with this. 3d is the dumbest thing, especially on a phone, but you can toggle it off. Motoblur is god awful and sense is just beautiful. I'd go with the 3d

oy this is hard to decifer

Right. The home screen and OS seemed normal at Sprint store. Just the camera was 3d.
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Right. The home screen and OS seemed normal at Sprint store. Just the camera was 3d.
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im going to call my local store, and ask if i can play around with the two models and see which fits me better

Had 3d, returned, went with Photon
So I had an EVO 4g for several months before the 3d came out. I LOVE Sense. Got the 3d, hated it. Sense was sluggish to say the least, battery life was about half a day, connection problems... 3d was cool but gave me a headache after a while.
So I returned it, got a nexus s right before the price drop, had it for 3 weeks, HATED IT.
So I returned it and got the Photon on Sunday and I'm not looking back. I'm what I would consider a heavy user (though we don't have 4g where I'm at so that's NEVER turned on). I have WIFI, Bluetooth, and GPS on 24/7. I can make it from the time I wake up (mind you it's only been 2 full days that I've had it, today is my 3rd day), until I go to bed before I need to plug it in and charge it. With the 3d, I'd have to charge it around 1pm everyday! (I had the 3d for a week mind you).
Beyond that, it's fast, motoblur is kept to a minimum, I can remove most all of the bloatware (thou I haven't yet), and to me, the coolest feature is the webtop. I bought the HD dock, plug it into my TV via HDMI, my wireless keyboard and mouse are plugged into the back of the dock, and now my phone is the computer running on my tv. And it IS AWESOME!
After having both, the 3d is a disappointment. HTC messed up. A 1.2 dual-core feels like a 1.0 single-core. I liked my EVO 4g better!
*added more info on 3d battery life*

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So I had an EVO 4g for several months before the 3d came out. I LOVE Sense. Got the 3d, hated it. Sense was sluggish to say the least, battery life was about half a day, connection problems... 3d was cool but gave me a headache after a while.
So I returned it, got a nexus s right before the price drop, had it for 3 weeks, HATED IT.
So I returned it and got the Photon on Sunday and I'm not looking back. I'm what I would consider a heavy user (though we don't have 4g where I'm at so that's NEVER turned on). I have WIFI, Bluetooth, and GPS on 24/7. I can make it from the time I wake up (mind you it's only been 2 full days that I've had it, today is my 3rd day), until I go to bed before I need to plug it in and charge it. With the 3d, I'd have to charge it around 1pm everyday! (I had the 3d for a week mind you).
Beyond that, it's fast, motoblur is kept to a minimum, I can remove most all of the bloatware (thou I haven't yet), and to me, the coolest feature is the webtop. I bought the HD dock, plug it into my TV via HDMI, my wireless keyboard and mouse are plugged into the back of the dock, and now my phone is the computer running on my tv. And it IS AWESOME!
After having both, the 3d is a disappointment. HTC messed up. A 1.2 dual-core feels like a 1.0 single-core. I liked my EVO 4g better!
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Yeah I like my 4G better.
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Yeah I like my 4G better.
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Virgin evo?? As in virgin mobile??
-Storm

No. Virgin as in pure untouched...until root comes along.lol
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playya said:
Deal breaker - Photon has a kickstand.... screw the 3D crap and I checked it out yesterday it also has a 10 hr battery life. It will be rooted and it will be made better. I say Photon or OG Evo... I am an OG Evo owner and I will be skipping over the 3D to get a PHoton
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I would have to disagree with the kickstand being my reason for the photon, but I would still go with the photon. I hate motoblur but the extra battery stock means even more extra battery life when rooted. Also I know this next question is off topic,but is the kickstand really that important to a lot of people here ? I hate the damn kickstand. I wish it was never on the EVO. Mine is so damn loose already and I have never even used it. I know not many people have that problem, but I do and it's annoying. It just swings out everytime I pick up my phone and it's extremely irritating. I'm considering getting some bolt cutters and cutting that thing as far down as I can.

I got my lady the 3d and the battery lasts her easily 14 hrs w %60 left...its all about conditioning the battery and also use automateit app
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What did you do
And I text, use WiFi a lot, music via Bluetooth.
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I got my lady the 3d and the battery lasts her easily 14 hrs w %60 left...its all about conditioning the battery and also use automateit app
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What did you do
And I text, use WiFi a lot, music via Bluetooth.
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Condition the battery and use automateit app
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What do you think of the T-mobile SGS II?

Hey guys, I'm planning on getting this phone tomorrow so I just wanted to start a thread to see what people think about this phone. Don't need quadrant scores or anything like that. Just what do you guys think of that phone after a day of using it? Thanks guys!

I'm going to have a seat in this thread.
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Were to start....
The phone is just Beast. Responsive, smooth, powerful, clear, beautiful ect. ect. ect.
I haven't tested the Amaze but i have read up on it, the "cons" that i have read other people say about this phone compared to it seem to be pretty quickly decided and kinda biased (my own opinion please don't beat me for that) in any case I didn't sleep much due to my phone (mostly trying to stay awake to kill the battery to so i can give it its full charge) but i'm not disappointing with the SGS II at all.
I also have the SGS 4g, and when i got that phone i was thrilled, development for the phone was well under way by the time i got it. and i personally think the SGS II is a perfect successor.
As for the specifics, you can find all the info elsewhere

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Hey guys, I'm planning on getting this phone tomorrow so I just wanted to start a thread to see what people think about this phone. Don't need quadrant scores or anything like that. Just what do you guys think of that phone after a day of using it? Thanks guys!
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there are many video reviews on tmonews and mobilesyrup
you can see them by yourself and judge, or better yet, go to any tmo store and try it out yourself

I bought the phone yesterday and am loving it. At first I didn't like the resolution since I'm coming from a Sensation which has an amazing resolution. But the larger smoother screen on the Galaxy S2 is pretty damn nice. The phone is blazing fast and typing on this is so much better than on the Sensation. Swype responds quickly and I'm just loving the smooth feel of the screen.
The only issues for me are that there is no WiFi Calling yet and the resolution. But I can get used to the resolution and WiFi Calling should come sometime soon.

Its the 1st phone I've loved since the Nokia n70 days. And that's a long time.
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Problem solved. This phone is freakin awesome.
I posted earlier about the audio problem but it looks like I needed to format my SD card before I moved it from one phone to another.

Simply put, the phone is incredible.
Go into it with reasonable expectations and you'll love it.
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Gotta add one more amazing thing about this beast. The data speeds are way better than any other phone I've ever used. The Sensation would give me about 7-8 Mbps max. I've already hit up to 13 Mbps on GS2.

shorty87 said:
Gotta add one more amazing thing about this beast. The data speeds are way better than any other phone I've ever used. The Sensation would give me about 7-8 Mbps max. I've already hit up to 13 Mbps on GS2.
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I'm running at a steady 13mb and my YouTube and web browsing is lightning fast. My YouTube plays instantly and buffers extremely better than I've seen with other phones.

well i play with it in store did a testmy.net and i can tell it will lap my tmobile G2 atleast 3 times on the network department, as far as speed goes, i try everything to slow it down but its just keep trucking...

i got up to 22 Mbps Down and 3 Mbps up