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Running Windows Mobile In Nokia N770

Hi to everytody,
This is the firs time I write in this forum, but there is a long time ago that i read all your interesting and wise posts
I have recently changed my pda for a nokia n770, and I would like to know if is possible to make this device work under windows mobile, 'cos linux does not like me too much.
Is there any available rom for this device?
If so, how can I install it?
Many thanks in advance, and my congratulations for you all.
Regards.
CArlos

Absolutlely impossible
No drivers, no software - nothing.

Really?
But if I have seen in You Tube a video where this machine is running under windows xp....
And is there no way to load in any other rom from another pda?
many thanks and I apologize if I have said any nonsense... (my aknowledgements are very limited in this matter)
regards.

dunno about xp - but anyway it is much more possible than n770 running Windows Mobile

it was prob a nokia running remote desktop software

Don't believe everything you see on uTube.
As Redugar suggested it could have been remote terminal software, or a skin that made the device resemble XP or a fake video all together.
According to PC Magazine this device has an OMAP processor (official Nokia site does not provide that detail) so in theory it is similar to our phones.
But if you have truly read this site before you would know that this was asked and discussed many times: Window Mobile can not be installed on a device that was not designed for it.
There must be at least one original version of WM specifically made by the manufacturer for that device.
Only from that it might be possible to make upgrades but not create a version from scratch.

ok,
I read some time ago something regarding the prebootloader system..., that this kind of devices that runs under linux does not have (or it's different)... is this certain?
Anyway, I thought that somebody in this forum might be developed a tool to load this room, but in any case, I repeat that I'm just learning about this devices... in fact is my first one mobile pc running linux...
Many thanks.

i dont belive that any nokia phone run linux at all their use their own os called symbian

Rudegar said:
i dont belive that any nokia phone run linux at all their use their own os called symbian
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Believe it That's their new safety line off Symbian without stepping into WM.
http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS5409534614.html
While they may have the most say in Symbian, but I won't say it is 'their own OS'
Anyway, it is a pity that all these phone companies with Linux OS doesn't seems to be doing much to join forces in any other way. Motorola has some good histroy with their Linux OS.. and yet this Nokia is doing things all their own way.. which well, I'm not sure how that will divide the public developers. Anyway, I had a look at this N770.. it is not that impressive.

"but I won't say it is 'their own OS' "
yeah it started up as a group of mobil companys but dident
everybody else leave the group ?

Rudegar said:
"but I won't say it is 'their own OS' "
yeah it started up as a group of mobil companys but dident
everybody else leave the group ?
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Hmmm.. now you mentioned.. it seems quite true.. now, as far I can think of, for non Nokia phones, only SonyE's P9xx series is using it, huh?

İt says;
Software:
Operating system -- Internet Tablet 2005 software edition
İt s not talkin about linux, symbian possible by the way Rom upgrade impossible on this device because it cant be connect on active syn, and I dont think so that it has bootloader menu to flash WM6..

Nokia n770 (and n800) runs Maemo. For more info check out: http://maemo.org/.
The nokia n770/800 isnt a pda but an internet tablet.

Windows Phone WAIT what?

Ok this thread might be pretty pointless but with all the NoDo stuff going on I think some people (including me) need something to pass time
Did it ever occur to you that the term Windows Phone is pretty silly?
There isn't a single window in it (even the start button one from 6.5 is gone^^; or the message box dialog windows).
So apart from being a Microsoft OS it has nothing to do with Windows.
So what, in your opinion, would have been a good, descriptive name for the OS (not considering need for corporate identity)?
I think along LiveMobile or TilePhone or even Xbox Mobile / ZunePhone
But I know some of you guys will have much better ideas.
So get creative and NoDo will appear for your phone in no time

They are definitely just going with brand identity on it. It's the same reason apple has stuck with the "i" in front of everything ... but if not for that ... hmmm I think Live OS (LivePhone - although if you say it too quickly then it ssounds like iphone haha) would be good. The thing seems alive with all of the movement and live tiles. It would keep with their live.com as well.

Windows is a brand, it has nothing to do with "windows" in the OS UI anymore. Microsoft could release an Unix based OS with a shell and they'd call it "Windows". I could be wrong, but I don't think Microsoft has released an OS in the last 10 years, that wasn't named "Windows somethingsomething".

Zune OS isn't called Windows anything. It is an operating system after all for the Zune HD.

lekki said:
Zune OS isn't called Windows anything. It is an operating system after all for the Zune HD.
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Good point, but I guess that's because Zune is a closed system, just like the Xbox. The Zune OS doesn't even have an official name, iirc. It's just Zune firmware v4.x.

PC Software –How to Run on Win Mobile?

I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.

Since ver 7, the os is no longer called windows mobile; its now called windows phone. but to answer your question, no you can't run desktop applications on windows phone (or windows mobile for that matter) and this is unlikely to change.
That said I'm sure you can find another application to achieve whatever it is that you're after on the marketplace...

:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)

Well for a lot of people smartphones or tablets can replace computers, most people aren't stockbrokers!
The latest version of Windows Phone is 7.5 Mango, which is currently at RTM stage - i.e. released to OEMs pending approval for new devices and upgrades to existing devices.
The Windows Phone Marketplace can only be accessed via the phone or via the Zune desktop software. The Zune software comes highly recommended from me, it's a very, very good media management software and I can't live without the wireless sync function anymore!
You can browse the marketplace through Zune without owning a Windows Phone device.
Perhaps you could let the community know what it is exactly that you need to do and someone might be able to suggest something?
EDIT: As you're new to smartphones, from a usability perspective Windows Phone 7 would be an excellent choice for you - it is simply brilliant to use, the interface is understated and elegant and the lack of pointless graphics makes it both simple and quick. Microsoft have clearly put massive effort into making Windows Phone highly usable and have surpassed pretty much all expectations, especially with the 7.5 update, which brings in a huge amount of functionality. A lot of people try and put Windows Phone down having never used it, because it's one of those things that needs you to spend 10 minutes with it to understand - but once you've spent 9 minutes with it, everything else just seems ridiculously complicated.
olivespin said:
:-( my all needs are getting completed with an smartphone, but i guess eventually i will have to buy a laptop as well... just to run my stockmarket software.... Damn and they are telling smartphones (Like SGS2 etc.) are quickly replacing laptops...
PS: Wht is the latest ver. of windows phone called and, what is the windows phone marketplace url (Kind of new to smartphones)
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Silverlight in Windows
Hi
Silverlight apps are currently available in Windows and I think that the concept being put out there at the moment is that Windows 8 will run the same apps as Windows Mobile 8.
Nobody knows if this will become a reality or not.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

olivespin said:
I was wondering, tht when buying a new smartphone if I go with windows based OS on mobile, will I be able to run any software tht can run on windows based desktop computer? If not, such functionality is expected to come with forthcoming Windows 8 mobile?
PS: I wana run my live stock market terminal on mobile phone.
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The best thing for you to do would be to find a mobile version of the software you are trying to run. Then get the device that runs that particular software.
The closest you'll come to running your "exact" software on a mobile device is to get a Windows based tablet or laptop. But to run your stock software on a smartphone, you will need the "mobile" version of that software, if it exists.
Also, check to see if your stock-terminal application is web-based. If it is, you may be able to access what you need with ANY smartphone through the smartphone's web browser. That means your "stock terminal" would work on Windows Phone, iPhone, Android, etc.

[Q] A couple of 7.8 questions & WP8 Port ?

Been a while since I did any hacking it was mainly on the WM platform, WP7 has been limited to keeping my DVP up to date. So forgive me if I ask some redundant questions. I searched and can't seem to find the info I am about to ask.. I did try.
First off has anyone successfully ported a WP7 phone to WP8 ? I searched and couldn't find the answer anywhere. If there is a thread I missed maybe it should be stickied..?
Also is something different about the DVP..? I can not seem to find any Root tools, etc.. that say they work on the DVP. So if Porting to WP8 is available can I get it on a DVP ?
Any way to make 7.8 read as Mango. I have realized a few apps that work on 7.5 and 8 do not recognize 7.8 and won't work on it.
Anyone know why apps on WP8 won't work on WP7 or 7.8..? Are there legit reasons or is MS just blocking them..? I ask because maybe we could trick the programs into thinking we are running 8 when we are running 7.8 wihtout having to actually have 8 installed.
Thanks for all the help and answers.

cdgoin said:
Been a while since I did any hacking it was mainly on the WM platform, WP7 has been limited to keeping my DVP up to date. So forgive me if I ask some redundant questions. I searched and can't seem to find the info I am about to ask.. I did try.
First off has anyone successfully ported a WP7 phone to WP8 ? I searched and couldn't find the answer anywhere. If there is a thread I missed maybe it should be stickied..?
Also is something different about the DVP..? I can not seem to find any Root tools, etc.. that say they work on the DVP. So if Porting to WP8 is available can I get it on a DVP ?
Any way to make 7.8 read as Mango. I have realized a few apps that work on 7.5 and 8 do not recognize 7.8 and won't work on it.
Anyone know why apps on WP8 won't work on WP7 or 7.8..? Are there legit reasons or is MS just blocking them..? I ask because maybe we could trick the programs into thinking we are running 8 when we are running 7.8 wihtout having to actually have 8 installed.
Thanks for all the help and answers.
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And one more reason that I believe because of which wp8 apps won't work on previous devices is because, Microsoft allowed wp8 marketplace apps to be programmed in c to keep more developers coming unlike wp7 which runs Silverlight apps fine..and does not run apps programmed in c by third party developers without policy unlock..

Guys, I've been busy to upgrade my HTC HD2 from WP7 to WP8 and it was successful... mostly
Only thing I cann't get working is Zune or wpbackup; no connection.
wifi / data no problem; marketstore works fine
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21988711&postcount=1876 and have fun!

@ErikH000
Not WP8 but WP7.8

Install Windows 8 on Intel-based smartphones

Anybody know if it'd be possible to install Windows 8 on an Intel-based smartphone such as Droid Razr i? The device should theoretically be compatible with Windows 8 as it's just using a pretty standard Intel Atom x86 CPU. The 32-bit version of Windows 8 should work. Anybody tried this before or know how I could approach this?

This should be revisited. The Asus Zenfone 2 came out and specs-wise, it is more powerful than many tablets out there.

iamwarpath said:
This should be revisited. The Asus Zenfone 2 came out and specs-wise, it is more powerful than many tablets out there.
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Agreed! However, back when I asked this question, some people said it was not possible due to lack of driver support and possibly some issue with the bootloader. But when has that ever stopped XDA? This would be a really cool project and would really be awesome if you could install Windows 10 and use the Continuum feature. Unlike Windows 10 Mobile, this version of continuum would still allow x86 desktop apps to be run on the phone.

"This would be a really cool project and would really be awesome if you could install Windows 10 and use the Continuum feature. Unlike Windows 10 Mobile, this version of continuum would still allow x86 desktop apps to be run on the phone."
I completely agree with you. Chances are MS won't let Asus make this happen but Windows 10 Pro in your pocket and it can send/receive calls+text messages? What's next?...Snapchat?? - one can dream.

iamwarpath said:
"This would be a really cool project and would really be awesome if you could install Windows 10 and use the Continuum feature. Unlike Windows 10 Mobile, this version of continuum would still allow x86 desktop apps to be run on the phone."
I completely agree with you. Chances are MS won't let Asus make this happen but Windows 10 Pro in your pocket and it can send/receive calls+text messages? What's next?...Snapchat?? - one can dream.
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It doesn't matter if Microsoft allows it or not. I'm sure people will be able to get an unlocked bootloader for this phone or make one if Asus doesn't provide it. From there, I'd imagine it'd be something along thing lines of pre-installing Windows 10 onto a microSD card and then boot from it on the phone. The hard part would be making it boot and finding the necessary drivers. I wish I'd know more about where to start but my development skills are more centered around app development, not necessarily OS and hardware.

"I'd imagine it'd be something along thing lines of pre-installing Windows 10 onto a microSD card and then boot from it on the phone. "
Please don't make me wants this more than I already do...