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Dear All,
I have below questions , kindly answer them.
My Desire details.
Desire SLCD
ROM: Stock Froyo out of the box.
BRAVO PVT4 S-ON
HBOOT 0.93.0001
Root: unrevoked 3.21 + recovery
a] Found anwser....
I have rooted my device and have taken nandroid back-up using recovery.
b] If I restore my nadroid back-up
1] will it be in rooted state ?
2] will it flash hboot ? or only android system ?
c] Considering, I S-off using alhparev and flash one of Hboot from alpharev site
1] I can still go back to stock bravo hboot right ?
2] After I flash one of the hacked hboot and then try to restore a nandroid backup which was actually backed up when I had stock hboot(or any other hboot), which means partition size will be different , will it flash properly?
d] If I flash any RUU [ Including latest HTC GB RUU] , will it replace hboot also ?
e] Now if i flash any latest HTC STOCK GB based ROMs ( with hacked hboot)
1] Is My ROM still in rooted state ?
2] Can I still restore my nandroid backup straightaway which i had taken at very beginning when i had stock HBOOT ? or do i have to flash stock HBOOT first and then restore my backup ?
f] How many S-off metthods are available ? Please guide me to the tutorial for doing S-OFF [ im not able to find proper link]
g] I found that for flashing cm7 r2 hboot cm7 hboot is required but in alpharev site i din find cm7 hboot, though i found it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16090990&postcount=3879, do I really need to flash cm7 hboot first and then cm7 rc2 ?
I am planing to flash my first Custom ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016940. So final question
The above ROM requires
A2SD CM7 HBOOT - cm7 hboot from alpharev.nl - the one with 130 mB for /system - 1 gB ext2/3/4 partition
A2SD+ STOCK HBOOT - stock hboot - the one with 250 mB for /system - 1 gB ext2/3/4 partition
what do you mean by A2SD or A2SD+ here ? Are they same Hboot which r listed in alpharev.nl ?
Hope i will get answers for my questions
Thanks in advance...

I think that you should wait to s-off until you have the basics sorted
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805247

s off
you can s off in 2 seconds with alpharev.nl hboots

BigMrB said:
I think that you should wait to s-off until you have the basics sorted
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696189 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=805247
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Thanks.. Im going to do S-OFF using alpharev virtual machine.. ill post back once done .
Next i will try to flash cm7 hboot using SD card technique or using android flasher
Thanks

I would advise against using virtual machine unless you are experienced with it .... You get connectivity issues between VM and usb... which interupts the process.... there is an option but I cannot for the life of me remember it!! It basically stops you having to constantly reconnect usb if that helps lol
CD is better

Dear All,
Thanks for all ur help
Did S-OFF using alpharev on VMWare machine
Flashed CM7 HBOOT using fastboot ( Android Flasher )
Flashed [ROM][01/08][STABLE][Sense2.1+3.0 GB]InsertCoin CM7 HBOOT
TESTING ...
observing some issues SMS.. while typing some time it automatically get saved as draft.. Well ill report this in ROM thread
Thanks

Though i have sucesfully, Rooted, S-SOFF, installed HBOOT C7 and flashed insertcoin ROM.. i wanted to clarify few things...
In insertcoin They have mentioned below requirement.
A2SD CM7 HBOOT - cm7 hboot from alpharev.nl - the one with 130 mB for /system - 1 gB ext2/3/4 partition
A2SD+ STOCK HBOOT - stock hboot - the one with 250 mB for /system - 1 gB ext2/3/4 partition
a] I am aware of A2SD application which is used to move installed applications from phone memory to SD card memory. I am also aware of HBOOTS CM7, CM7r2, STOCK etc... But what do you mean by A2SD CM7 HBOOT or A2SD+ STOCK HBOOT here ?
b] I have formatted my 2GB SD card as 1GB Ext4 and remaining FAT32. But i just wanted to know
1] Who will be using this 1GB Ext4 partition ?
2] If we install A2SD application and move apps to SD card , are they going to be stored in EXT4 partition or FAT32 partition?
3] Can we read EXT4 partition contents in phone using any file explorer ?
4] Finally, why cant we use EXT4 partition alone if it has more advantage ?
I have flashed ROM.. but i just wanted to improve Knowledge
Thanks

happy20b said:
Though i have sucesfully, Rooted, S-SOFF, installed HBOOT C7 and flashed insertcoin ROM.. i wanted to clarify few things...
In insertcoin They have mentioned below requirement.
A2SD CM7 HBOOT - cm7 hboot from alpharev.nl - the one with 130 mB for /system - 1 gB ext2/3/4 partition
A2SD+ STOCK HBOOT - stock hboot - the one with 250 mB for /system - 1 gB ext2/3/4 partition
a] I am aware of A2SD application which is used to move installed applications from phone memory to SD card memory. I am also aware of HBOOTS CM7, CM7r2, STOCK etc... But what do you mean by A2SD CM7 HBOOT or A2SD+ STOCK HBOOT here ?
b] I have formatted my 2GB SD card as 1GB Ext4 and remaining FAT32. But i just wanted to know
1] Who will be using this 1GB Ext4 partition ?
2] If we install A2SD application and move apps to SD card , are they going to be stored in EXT4 partition or FAT32 partition?
3] Can we read EXT4 partition contents in phone using any file explorer ?
4] Finally, why cant we use EXT4 partition alone if it has more advantage ?
I have flashed ROM.. but i just wanted to improve Knowledge
Thanks
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doubts cleared with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=8246 and also i read the following link has very nice explanation http://www.miui-au.com/faq/a2sd/

happy20b said:
doubts cleared with
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...postcount=8246 and also i read the following link has very nice explanation http://www.miui-au.com/faq/a2sd/
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Knowledge is power
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[Q] Less Internal memory (40MB) after flashing Insertcoin 1.1.1

Hi,
Sday I got S-OFF & rooted my Desire with Revolutionary and flashed my first custom ROM Insertcoin 1.1.1.
But after installing the ROM, I have only 40 MB internal memory..
I have done the partition of my SD card with ext3 (512MB).
Am I doing something wrong ??? Can anybody please help what should I do to increase my internal memory...

It's recommended that the EXT size for Insertcoin is 1GB.
Are you using A2SD or CM7 version of the ROM?
I am using CM7 version have 50 apps installed and still have 100MB left.

I am using CM7 version of ROM. Can I change the partition again to 1 GB from 512 MB ?
Also my HBOOT version is 6.93.0.0.1

hpdinesh said:
I am using CM7 version of ROM. Can I change the partition again to 1 GB from 512 MB ?
Also my HBOOT version is 6.93.0.0.1
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Yes you can change the partition but you'll likely lose all data on your SD card in the process so make a backup first of your SD card's contents before repartitioning.
You also need to use CM7r2 partition table for your HBoot.

OK. I will take back up then I will repartition to 1 GB.
Can you please tell me, how to change my partition table of HBoot to CM7r2.
Do I need to use Downgrader image first and then flash with CM7r2 image ?

hpdinesh said:
OK. I will take back up then I will repartition to 1 GB.
Can you please tell me, how to change my partition table of HBoot to CM7r2.
Do I need to use Downgrader image first and then flash with CM7r2 image ?
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As far as I know, if you just rooted and is still on Bravo Stock partition, you do not need to flash the downgrader. But if you are already on any HBOOT and would want to change, then that's the time you flash the downgrader before flashing your new partition table.
I suggest you check out some threads here first just to be sure since I haven't changed to any other partition yet since I flashed CM7r2. So I have no first hand experience with the downgrader process.
EDIT: Since you used Revolutionary, they might have implemented different security so you may need to flash the Downgrader. Sorry I am not that knowledgeable since I've used Unrevoked when I flashed my device.

stankyou said:
It's recommended that the EXT size for Insertcoin is 1GB.
Are you using A2SD or CM7 version of the ROM?
I am using CM7 version have 50 apps installed and still have 100MB left.
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stankyou said:
Yes you can change the partition but you'll likely lose all data on your SD card in the process so make a backup first of your SD card's contents before repartitioning.
You also need to use CM7r2 partition table for your HBoot.
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how do I change the partition again to 1 GB or 512 MB ?

aygul12345 said:
how do I change the partition again to 1 GB or 512 MB ?
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You can either use GParted on your computer or your phone's custom recovery to partition your SD card. Most users here I notice recommends GParted. I however partitioned mine via recovery.

I Just formatted and partitioned my SD card with recovery to 1GB. Then I installed A2SD version of Insertcoin 1.1.1 since I have stock HBOOT. Now everything works fine.. Now I have 135 MB free space

hpdinesh said:
I Just formatted and partitioned my SD card with recovery to 1GB. Then I installed A2SD version of Insertcoin 1.1.1 since I have stock HBOOT. Now everything works fine.. Now I have 135 MB free space
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how did u get stock hboot again? i used revolutionary on my unbranded htc desire. when i installed 1.1.1 i had the same problem. Did u flash the CM7r2 hboot or do something else to make it work again.
Thanks

hpdinesh said:
I Just formatted and partitioned my SD card with recovery to 1GB. Then I installed A2SD version of Insertcoin 1.1.1 since I have stock HBOOT. Now everything works fine.. Now I have 135 MB free space
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Is it so simple? I've had the same issue...till now

Installing InsertCoin, are my partitions correct?

Hi all,
I'm coming from LeeDroid 3.0.7 with A2SD, and I would like to install a more modern rom perhaps with Sense 3.0.
I read the requirements for the latest InsertCoin with Sense 3.0
Requirements:
A2SD CM7 HBOOT - cm7 hboot from alpharev.nl - the one with 130 mB for /system
- 1 gB ext2/3/4 partition
A2SD+ STOCK HBOOT - stock hboot - the one with 250 mB for /system
- 1 gB ext2/3/4 partition
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and I don't really understand them. Can anyone help me out? Does it mean I can have a Stock HBOOT (which mine is) but I have to have 250MB /system partition and a 1GB /ext3 partition?
At present according to system info app I have : 457MB A2SD storage, 148MB Internal storage, 250MB System storage, 40MB system cache, 405MB memory. Does this mean I need to increase the ext3 partition from 512MB to 1GB, and if so is that done by clockworkmod?
thanks, sorry for the long post.

With the stock hboot you already have 250MB /system. You can use Clockwork recovery (v3+) otherwise you would need to use a partition manager. Please bare in mind that to increase your ext partition, it will completely wipe your SD card so make sure you back it up.

thanks for the quick reply. If I manage to increase the ext3 partition to 1GB, am I right in thinking I need CM 3+ anyway in order to flash the rom?

cable_guy said:
thanks for the quick reply. If I manage to increase the ext3 partition to 1GB, am I right in thinking I need CM 3+ anyway in order to flash the rom?
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No.. You dont need CM 3+ to flash the ROM. Meaple meant that u need CM 3+ to partition the SD card to 1 GB

[Q] -Cool3D Sense 3.0 - ext4 not active?

hi, i got a little problem.
i installed this rom on my desire
[ROM][Cool3D Sense 3.0][19 Sep]Cool3D AceS v3 |Android 2.3.5|FAST|STABLE|STOCK|CM7/r2]
i still flashed 1 time a new rom before that, so i still got s-off.
first i backuped & wiped all. then i installed over Clockwork then the rom (cool3d Sense -CM7/r2.
it works. but now im wondering about the message "the memory is full" - should i do something to activate the ext4 partition?

I think you need to move your app to SD manually or you can install the version of the rom with data2ext which is in same page

thx - wil try it on sunday(short holiday) - but i still tried the data2ex version - same problem.

sparvar said:
hi, i got a little problem.
i installed this rom on my desire
[ROM][Cool3D Sense 3.0][19 Sep]Cool3D AceS v3 |Android 2.3.5|FAST|STABLE|STOCK|CM7/r2]
i still flashed 1 time a new rom before that, so i still got s-off.
first i backuped & wiped all. then i installed over Clockwork then the rom (cool3d Sense -CM7/r2.
it works. but now im wondering about the message "the memory is full" - should i do something to activate the ext4 partition?
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Are you on stock hboot? If so you have to flash stock users.zip after flashing the rom.

itachi1706 said:
Are you on stock hboot? If so you have to flash stock users.zip after flashing the rom.
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I flashed the "stock users.zip" the memory still shows 139MB and goes on decreasing. I installed some 7-8 apps, mem went down to 108 MB.
A 512 MB ext4 would be OK or do i need a 1024 ext4 partition??

cycostallion said:
I flashed the "stock users.zip" the memory still shows 139MB and goes on decreasing. I installed some 7-8 apps, mem went down to 108 MB.
A 512 MB ext4 would be OK or do i need a 1024 ext4 partition??
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I think a 1gb ext4 partition will be recommended.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk

Can someone plz provide a step by step guide to install this ROM?

for this rom all you need to do is flash hboot version cm7/r2, wipe through recovery, create a 1024MB partition through recovery, flash the ext4 align file and flash the rom itself.
if you have no idea what i'm talking about then (new users guide):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084

kouske said:
for this rom all you need to do is flash hboot version cm7/r2, wipe through recovery, create a 1024MB partition through recovery, flash the ext4 align file and flash the rom itself.
if you have no idea what i'm talking about then (new users guide):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
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After flashing the Rom you still have to flash the weather-pack.zip and a2sd.kd.zip. And that guide is immensely useful for people flashing a new Rom the first time.
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk

I had flashed this rom and it worked briefly then hung up on me. I wiped everything and tried multiple times, but couldn't get it to work again. Thanks for the excellent tips. I will try this again when I have a few hours to kill.

Hi,
This is not an attempt to highjack this thread. I am facing a similar issue and hope someone can throw light on it.
I was using Coolexe's Sense 2.1 on by HTC Desire with stock HBoot and EXT4 partition on my memory card and hence had to suffer with 147mb memory.
Recently purchased a Transcend class 10 8GB SDHC memory card with hopes of getting sense 3.0. I followed these steps to install Cool3D sense 3.0 on my phone.
1. Create FAT 32 partition 6.36GB.
2. Create 1024 MB EXT4 partition.
3. Boot to clockworkmod recovery.
4. Installed the zip's in the following order.
i) Alignment_Cool_2.zip
ii) Cool-Sensation-v10.zip
iii) Stock_Users_v10.zip
5. Reboot phone.
Now the phone is working fine and is quite smooth apart from an occasional judder. However my EXT 4 partition does not seem to be active. It still shows 110Mb remaining out of 147Mb!...
Is there any step that I have missed? How do i activate the external partition?
Thanks for the help
Shilp

shilp311 said:
Hi,
This is not an attempt to highjack this thread. I am facing a similar issue and hope someone can throw light on it.
I was using Coolexe's Sense 2.1 on by HTC Desire with stock HBoot and EXT4 partition on my memory card and hence had to suffer with 147mb memory.
Recently purchased a Transcend class 10 8GB SDHC memory card with hopes of getting sense 3.0. I followed these steps to install Cool3D sense 3.0 on my phone.
1. Create FAT 32 partition 6.36GB.
2. Create 1024 MB EXT4 partition.
3. Boot to clockworkmod recovery.
4. Installed the zip's in the following order.
i) Alignment_Cool_2.zip
ii) Cool-Sensation-v10.zip
iii) Stock_Users_v10.zip
5. Reboot phone.
Now the phone is working fine and is quite smooth apart from an occasional judder. However my EXT 4 partition does not seem to be active. It still shows 110Mb remaining out of 147Mb!...
Is there any step that I have missed? How do i activate the external partition?
Thanks for the help
Shilp
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First of all, why did you flash Cool Sensation? And it is normal for A2SD+ ROMS. With A2SD+, still not everything is transferred to the EXT partition only the apps and the dalvik cache are transferred there, the rest of the data will still be placed on the internal memory. Hence the decrease in memory. If you want data to be on the ext partition you will have to flash a Data2EXT rom.

[Q] Need S-OFF for updating to latest radio?

Rooted my Desire long time ago using Unrevoked. Used MIUI for al long time, now want to switch to CM 7.1
Read all the treats, but still i'm not sure iff i have to have S-OFF for updating to the latest radio.
facts:
- S-ON
- stock radio
All tips welcome
Thnx in advance
Kaffer (near newbee)

Flash the downloaded radio.zip via recovery.

Thnx MatDrOiD, works like a charm.
Now i only have to find out wich way i can partition my 16Gig SD-card best..

Gparted Linux

kaffer said:
Thnx MatDrOiD, works like a charm.
Now i only have to find out wich way i can partition my 16Gig SD-card best..
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No problem. Do not forget to use the thanks-button.
Either with as already GParted or recovery. Recommended recoveries are 4EXT or RMD.

I am familiar with Gparted and Easeus in Windows, but I do not know which format I should hold for CM7.1
- 1 Gig ext 3 or 4?
- 500mb swap?
- The rest fat32
(this is what i had with succes for my previous MIUI rom)

OK.. i created with MiniTool Partition Wizard Home Edition 7.0 (freeware):
13.7 GB FAT32
1.1 GB Ext4
102 MB Linux Swap
Still only 106 MB internal memory left..
What am i doing wrong??
I'm using "update-cm-7.1.0-Desire-signed.zip" straight from the CM website.
...I almost start to think that A2SD is not supported...

Firstly, NEVER EVER partition your SD card MiniTool Partition Wizard!! Use GParted or your recovery.
Secondly, CM7 does not officially support A2SD. You have to flash darktremor's A2SD-script (can be found in CM7-thread here on XDA) in recovery use a2sdGUI from Android Market.
Thirdly, to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot.

Just flash it via recovery. no need of s-off.

MatDrOiD said:
Firstly, NEVER EVER partition your SD card MiniTool Partition Wizard!! Use GParted or your recovery.
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Yep, comfirm that! Minitool sucks, Gparted did the job correct
MatDrOiD said:
Secondly, CM7 does not officially support A2SD. You have to flash darktremor's A2SD-script (can be found in CM7-thread here on XDA) in recovery use a2sdGUI from Android Market.
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Pitty that CM7 doesn't support A2SD.. Worked really well on my MIU rom.
Annyway, Darktremmor's solution works fine (for now) Thanks for the tip MatDrOiD!
MatDrOiD said:
Thirdly, to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot.
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Not for now, me being a newbee.
Maybe later when i see the advantages.
Can you tell me what you mean by "to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot"

CM7 along with many of the AOSP ROMs is smaller than sense ROMs. Therefore if you are s -off you can flash a custom hboot Which will reduce the size of your system partition & increase the size of your data partition.
Although many ROMs support apps to ext partitions only a few will move data to the sd partition. By changing the hboot you can make use of the space created by a smaller ROM.
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kaffer said:
Yep, comfirm that! Minitool sucks, Gparted did the job correct
Pitty that CM7 doesn't support A2SD.. Worked really well on my MIU rom.
Annyway, Darktremmor's solution works fine (for now) Thanks for the tip MatDrOiD!
Not for now, me being a newbee.
Maybe later when i see the advantages.
Can you tell me what you mean by "to get full use of CM7 I recommend to go S-OFF and flash CM7r2 Hboot"
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CM7 only needs less than 145 MB on /system partition (I am talking about the desire's internal memory, which usually has this partiton layout: 250 MB /system, 40 MB /cache and 145 MB /data) and only 5 MB for /cache. So by using stock hboot with CM7 you would waste nearly 140 MB space for installing apps. Not very useful, isn't it. So with the CM7r2 Hboot you would get full use of Cyanogenmod.
But beware. You cannot flash the radio via recovery now, because the cache-partition is too small. So you have to do it via fastboot. It may sound scary, but if you are very careful and search better too much than too little and ask if you are completely unsure, nothing can happen. Futhermore, you will find much guides here on XDA which will help you.