Related
What sort of ROM would people like to see for the A100?!? Any particular wishes?
Personally I'd like to see a ROM that gives you slightly better battery life and the ability to under and overclock. (Tegra2 is pretty good for overclocking, no?)
That way you could set it for 1200mhz or higher for when you really need some speed, and underclock it to 600 or 800 mhz for a nice long plane trip. You should still be able to watch a couple of movies, but you'll get two hours more batterylife or thereabouts.
What I'd REALLY REALLY like to see in a future ROM, is a port of either HTCs tablet ROM or the Touchwiz ROM from the Galaxy 10.1.
Nothing beats Samsungs Touchwiz for smoothness from what I've seen, and since they use the same Tegra SoC it shouldn't be too hard to port, eh?
The HTC ROM would be pretty cool to have as an option, especially if it would be able to use the HTC Watch app.
What do you guys hope for?
First A500 ROM (Taboonay, Villain...) should be port to A100 easily ! (I hope !)
Then I'm not waiting at all for touchwiz or sense ROM cause Honeycomb is already nice...
The biggest thing on my wish list is native bluetooth PAN like the Xoom has. And tun.ko built into the kernel.
As for what ROM With ICS so close is it worth the effort to build a 3.2 ROM other then to get working drivers?
First we need a recovery. I have tried the A500 CWM with no luck. I have also contacted Koush via his blog http://www.koushikdutta.com/ requesting help with porting CWM to the A100 with no response. Anyone know how to get the ball rolling for a recovery?
painter_ said:
The biggest thing on my wish list is native bluetooth PAN like the Xoom has. And tun.ko built into the kernel.
As for what ROM With ICS so close is it worth the effort to build a 3.2 ROM other then to get working drivers?
First we need a recovery. I have tried the A500 CWM with no luck. I have also contacted Koush via his blog http://www.koushikdutta.com/ requesting help with porting CWM to the A100 with no response. Anyone know how to get the ball rolling for a recovery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Porting CWM is not the problem. In fact, the A500 CWM may work, if you can get it booted. The problem is, when you flash the recovery partition with CWM, you can no longer boot into recovery due to a checksum mismatch that the bootloader performs. The bootloader is encrypted, so can't modify it.
<Sepculation>
I am wondering though.. I believe the A100 and A500 are very similary in hardware (except the screen size). I wonder if it's possible to flash the bootloader from A500 to the A100. Kind of like downgrading the A500 from the new 3.2 back to 3.01. hmm.... i may have to visit best buy.
</speculation>
Euclid's Brother said:
Porting CWM is not the problem. In fact, the A500 CWM may work, if you can get it booted. The problem is, when you flash the recovery partition with CWM, you can no longer boot into recovery due to a checksum mismatch that the bootloader performs. The bootloader is encrypted, so can't modify it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so itsmagic could be helpfull for this ?
sebennett said:
so itsmagic could be helpfull for this ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope. Its different.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
JusThinK said:
I would love to have 3G support via Micro USB, if it can be done..
Forum just created, we will get lot's of suff.. My A100 on it's way to India from US , will get it in 1/2 weeks.
Thanks
JusTy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look forward to.Thanks
More USB goodies, and make it run games/apps as well as well as the A500. I want my Stupid Zombies and Dolphin for Pad back. Better battery life would be swell too.
Sent from my A100 using XDA Premium App
So my acer a100 is rooted (since day one), I'm guessing there is no need to do a NAND unlock on these?
Also, what are the honeycomb roms (is there any?)
When i had my DINC i liked CM7 but i really dont want android < 3.2 on my tab (seems like a step backwards).
painter_ said:
The biggest thing on my wish list is native bluetooth PAN like the Xoom has. And tun.ko built into the kernel.
As for what ROM With ICS so close is it worth the effort to build a 3.2 ROM other then to get working drivers?
First we need a recovery. I have tried the A500 CWM with no luck. I have also contacted Koush via his blog http://www.koushikdutta.com/ requesting help with porting CWM to the A100 with no response. Anyone know how to get the ball rolling for a recovery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have a great point here. With ICS just around the corner for this device (January IIRC) any Devs would be probably rather wait to put their effort in once that arrives.
I think it will take many polite requests for someone (Developer) to grab hold of this one. Or one of them to buy one and want to hack the heck out if it for themselves as well as us. I'm an avid hacker/tester but not a developer sadly. I wish I had more time to learn code and to develop. However, 60 hours a week (6 days) of work with a wife and 3 kids limits my free considerably.
Devs will defenetly wait for the ics to be release
Until ICS arrives I am happy with being able to root the device without unlocking the boot loader. But having a custom recovery like CWM would be great, let's wait and see what the Devs do after ICS arrives.
A solid AOSP ICS and ICS MIUI with CWM just to back up would be AMAZING...
jay_993 said:
A solid AOSP ICS and ICS MIUI with CWM just to back up would be AMAZING...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude, hear hear. Once I have CWM on my tablet, I'm gonna be such a happy customer. Especially if some dev wants to port 4.0-based MIUI to it...that would be phenomenal.
DaveRichardson said:
Dude, hear hear. Once I have CWM on my tablet, I'm gonna be such a happy customer. Especially if some dev wants to port 4.0-based MIUI to it...that would be phenomenal.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I mean. Have you seen the previews of MIUI 4.0?! I thought AOSP ICS looked stunning. MIUI does it nice as well!! haha
I would just love to be able to get a Clockworkmod Recovery running so I can do a Nandroid backup and stuff like that.
best rom
E A G L E B L O O O O O O O D ! ! ! (greatest roms ever made)
---------- Post added at 10:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:10 AM ----------
Mordak said:
I would just love to be able to get a Clockworkmod Recovery running so I can do a Nandroid backup and stuff like that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i like your pic...ironwars??? (Great game)
Clockwork would be great so we can have the confidence to mess up our machines
The encrypted locked bootloader hinders devs from doing dev work on it. With amazing hardware, I'm hoping the devs will work this after Acer rolls out ICS next month, hopefully. I really like to have a custom recovery so I can at least do a nandroid backup in case I eff'd up even the stock ROM.
For ROMs I like, definitely CM or MIUI.
Sent from my A100 using XDA App
like everyone has already said I'd like to make backup and stuff
but I'd like to see cm7 or 9 on this one
and able to over lock that ***** lol
Sent from my A100 using xda premium
I would love to see a sense port from like the HTC Flyer , will probably never happen even when we unlock the bootloader but well, this thread is about what we would like to see
Sent from my Iconia A100 using Tapatalk
Talk about a let down, we were so close to having this thing on our E4GT but it seems to have never been fixed. Now there is TWRP 2.1 and still no dice. I've never been a fan of CWM and I'm getting jealous of all the cool touch recoveries my brother has on his evo 3d. Don't get me started on CWM Touch, lol.
Maybe if we got together and shown that we still want this it could happen? The whole idea of the recovery rewriting itself after every flash was pretty cool.
I had read on one of the developers twitter that twrp had broken up. I also heard they were going to release the code for it for others to use but don't quote me on that.also that developer said he was working on a completely new kind of recovery
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
Agrabren was the member of Team Win that Rootzwiki gave the E4GT to from our phone winning the poll. Then a month or so later Agrabren and Team Win parted ways, before TWRP was functional on our phone. Since then, Agrabren has been working on his own recovery project called Phoenix. So, who knows if our phone will ever see TWRP support, and who knows what if anything Agrabren ever did with his E4GT.
Links with some details:
http://phx-recovery.blogspot.com/2012/01/twrp-final-chapter.html
http://www.teamw.in/blog/15
Dchibro said:
Agrabren was the member of Team Win that Rootzwiki gave the E4GT to from our phone winning the poll. Then a month or so later Agrabren and Team Win parted ways, before TWRP was functional on our phone. Since then, Agrabren has been working on his own recovery project called Phoenix. So, who knows if our phone will ever see TWRP support, and who knows what if anything Agrabren ever did with his E4GT.
Links with some details:
http://phx-recovery.blogspot.com/2012/01/twrp-final-chapter.html
http://www.teamw.in/blog/15
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool, thanks for the info!
Dchibro said:
Agrabren was the member of Team Win that Rootzwiki gave the E4GT to from our phone winning the poll. Then a month or so later Agrabren and Team Win parted ways, before TWRP was functional on our phone. Since then, Agrabren has been working on his own recovery project called Phoenix. So, who knows if our phone will ever see TWRP support, and who knows what if anything Agrabren ever did with his E4GT.
Links with some details:
http://phx-recovery.blogspot.com/2012/01/twrp-final-chapter.html
http://www.teamw.in/blog/15
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the info. I asked about this in a thread yesterday but nobody answered.
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA
Wish we could just get CWM Touch to work so then Rogue could do his thing with it.
latinmaxima said:
Wish we could just get CWM Touch to work so then Rogue could do his thing with it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually put the new TWRP 2.1 on my Nexus and had a problem flashing within the first 24 hours so I went back to the touch recovery which has been flawless on that phone. I would like to see the issues ironed out myself
TWRP 2.0 hard-bricked my original Evo 4G, as it did many other Evos. It will be a cold day in hell if I ever install anything from Team Win on my phones.
However, this whole idea of touch recoveries really baffles me. I am obviously not new to the touch recovery idea, and I agree that it's nicer, but the question is; what is the big deal? If you are a "flashaholic" (I hate that term), you may go into recovery a few times a week, and all you're doing is clearing caches and flashing a new ROM, mod, etc. So does the extra 60 seconds that it takes to fiddle with the volume and power buttons make that big of a difference? I am perfectly happy with a regular recovery that is known to work without problems. So what is this whole deal about "being jealous of all of the cool touch recoveries." I mean honestly, of all of the things to be jealous about, you guys occupy your minds with a touch recovery.
sputnik767 said:
TWRP 2.0 hard-bricked my original Evo 4G, as it did many other Evos. It will be a cold day in hell if I ever install anything from Team Win on my phones.
However, this whole idea of touch recoveries really baffles me. I am obviously not new to the touch recovery idea, and I agree that it's nicer, but the question is; what is the big deal? If you are a "flashaholic" (I hate that term), you may go into recovery a few times a week, and all you're doing is clearing caches and flashing a new ROM, mod, etc. So does the extra 60 seconds that it takes to fiddle with the volume and power buttons make that big of a difference? I am perfectly happy with a regular recovery that is known to work without problems. So what is this whole deal about "being jealous of all of the cool touch recoveries." I mean honestly, of all of the things to be jealous about, you guys occupy your minds with a touch recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I only like it to save the wear and tear on my volume rocker but I don't flash ROMs on my Epic Touch near as much as on my Nexus so that really doesn't come into play. I actually went back to good old regular CWM5 when I flashed 4.0.4 on my NS4G and its just as good. When I tried to flash a ROM with TWRP 2.1 this morning it hung at the splash screen. I used Flash Image GUI to put touch recovery on since I had the img and the same ROM zip flashed with no problems
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA
sputnik767 said:
TWRP 2.0 hard-bricked my original Evo 4G, as it did many other Evos. It will be a cold day in hell if I ever install anything from Team Win on my phones.
However, this whole idea of touch recoveries really baffles me. I am obviously not new to the touch recovery idea, and I agree that it's nicer, but the question is; what is the big deal? If you are a "flashaholic" (I hate that term), you may go into recovery a few times a week, and all you're doing is clearing caches and flashing a new ROM, mod, etc. So does the extra 60 seconds that it takes to fiddle with the volume and power buttons make that big of a difference? I am perfectly happy with a regular recovery that is known to work without problems. So what is this whole deal about "being jealous of all of the cool touch recoveries." I mean honestly, of all of the things to be jealous about, you guys occupy your minds with a touch recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Im jealous because the geek in me says "wow, thats cool". But really the redeeming quality of TWRP2 to me was that you wouldn't have to worry about bundling the recovery with the kernel anymore. That is an annoyance with this phone that I flat out do not like.
Gordon Ramsay said:
Im jealous because the geek in me says "wow, thats cool". But really the redeeming quality of TWRP2 to me was that you wouldn't have to worry about bundling the recovery with the kernel anymore. That is an annoyance with this phone that I flat out do not like.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's an interesting point, and it was something that I didn't expect when I first came to the E4GT from the Evo. However, if the phone is designed to have the kernel bundled with the recovery, perhaps it's best not to mess with it. I do agree that it's annoying to have to have the bundle, but if it's true what you said about TWRP not being bundled with a kernel, this makes me even more weary of trying it out.
sputnik767 said:
That's an interesting point, and it was something that I didn't expect when I first came to the E4GT from the Evo. However, if the phone is designed to have the kernel bundled with the recovery, perhaps it's best not to mess with it. I do agree that it's annoying to have to have the bundle, but if it's true what you said about TWRP not being bundled with a kernel, this makes me even more weary of trying it out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am curious about this now too! I know that CWM backups don't show in TWRP. It has its own folder but I don't know if the kernel/recovery being bundled is phone specific or if TWRP is truly separate
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA
JohnCorleone said:
I am curious about this now too! I know that CWM backups don't show in TWRP. It has its own folder but I don't know if the kernel/recovery being bundled is phone specific or if TWRP is truly separate
Sent from my Nexus S 4G using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Supposedly the way it worked was no matter what kernel or recovery you flashed, TWRP rewrote itself after every flash, thus giving you TWRP all the time. I think thats how I understood it.
Gordon Ramsay said:
Supposedly the way it worked was no matter what kernel or recovery you flashed, TWRP rewrote itself after every flash, thus giving you TWRP all the time. I think thats how I understood it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok, that makes sense. But if that's what happens, then it's really no different than you flashing a new kernel/recovery package after each new ROM flash, it's just that this step is done for you automatically. I've been doing to ODIN leaks for a long time now so I don't remember how typical 3rd party ROMs are packaged, but does each ROM come with it's own kernel/recovery, or is it standalone? I know that with the Evo, you would flash a ROM and the kernel if you wanted to, but the recovery was untouched. Here, I think I typically flashed a ROM, and then kernel/recovery package right after, so the process is really no different from the Evo. I just kept the Rogue package on my SD card. And a second point, let's say that what you are saying is true, that TWRP rewrites itself after every flash, then how do you get rid of it if you want something else? I personally don't really like the idea of turning control of my device to some automated code.
sputnik767 said:
Ok, that makes sense. But if that's what happens, then it's really no different than you flashing a new kernel/recovery package after each new ROM flash, it's just that this step is done for you automatically. I've been doing to ODIN leaks for a long time now so I don't remember how typical 3rd party ROMs are packaged, but does each ROM come with it's own kernel/recovery, or is it standalone? I know that with the Evo, you would flash a ROM and the kernel if you wanted to, but the recovery was untouched. Here, I think I typically flashed a ROM, and then kernel/recovery package right after, so the process is really no different from the Evo. I just kept the Rogue package on my SD card. And a second point, let's say that what you are saying is true, that TWRP rewrites itself after every flash, then how do you get rid of it if you want something else? I personally don't really like the idea of turning control of my device to some automated code.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yea I was wondering that myself, the bit about how to get rid of it. I would assume there would be an option to not rewrite somewhere in the interface. I guess we will never know lol.
I love twrp on my evo 3d its awesome. I would love to see it on this phone or perhaps phoenix
Sent from my BAD A$$ EPIC TOUCH 4G
I have never rooted a phone before(well technically I rooted an HTC Inspire, which I was asked to do, but I did nothing on it involving the Root). What are some reasons I should root, and can anything go wrong during the root process? Just putting this out there, I will not be flashing any ROMs, as I know there is a chance that the device can be bricked While flashing if something goes wrong, and I do not have a spare phone to go back to if something does go wrong.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
If your not going to use customs ROMs having root access will allow you to delete any app you desire including all the preloaded sprint ones. You will also be able to download and use any apps that require root for enhanced functionality. Beyond that, there's not a whole lot of difference you'll see.
In the early days, people would do root only to adjust memory values on phones like the g1 and hero. There were a lot of settings you could tweak on a stock phone to make it better with the addition of root. Now with today's technology and phones like the E4GT, alot of those tweaks are unnecessary. The ones that are helpful are lower level and best done by a ROM dev or someone who knows what they are changing. Custom ROMs will have these included usually.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Removing bloatware that wastes ram and flash storage space, certain apps are smoother (tasker, some launchers, and custom lockscreens for example), ability to block ads, better backup capabilities, ability to underclock the cpu for those times you need to squeeze extra battery life out, and so on.
If none of this sounds important, then don't root. It can be a little bit of a puzzle getting back to stock sometimes, but it is extremely extremely hard to do something to your phone that is not reversible at this point. Note this statement is not true for all phones, especially newly released phones. But it is true for the epic touch.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
Yeah.. I second what the guy above said..lol.
Wasup King..
I third the guy above the guy above me and second the guy above him... My thoughts are if you have to make a thread asking others should I root when the basic community offers all the info on the profit or lost of rooting then I say leave your phone alone.
Do yourself a favor and get an extended battery and download foxfi and you will be just fine. Most of us... ok all of us in here are flash-a-holics and can't help ourselves that's why we do it... Do some reading in here take a look at rom pics and see if you really really really like something...
Good luck
playya said:
I third the guy above the guy above me and second the guy above him... My thoughts are if you have to make a thread asking others should I root when the basic community offers all the info on the profit or lost of rooting then I say leave your phone alone.
Do yourself a favor and get an extended battery and download foxfi and you will be just fine. Most of us... ok all of us in here are flash-a-holics and can't help ourselves that's why we do it... Do some reading in here take a look at rom pics and see if you really really really like something...
Good luck
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The truth can sometimes be cruel..lol. +1 to Playa..
The best thing about rooting for me is adblocking, I cant believe how many apps and things are bundled with intrusive ads.
Indrid Cole said:
The truth can sometimes be cruel..lol. +1 to Playa..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just trying to keep it real up in herrrrre! Ya Ya!
someguyatx said:
The best thing about rooting for me is adblocking, I cant believe how many apps and things are bundled with intrusive ads.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just another app that root brings to the table:
Roam control lets you force into roam when you are stuck with one bar on Sprint.
Godsend for me!
Sent from my SPH-D710 using xda premium
playya said:
I third the guy above the guy above me and second the guy above him... My thoughts are if you have to make a thread asking others should I root when the basic community offers all the info on the profit or lost of rooting then I say leave your phone alone.
Do yourself a favor and get an extended battery and download foxfi and you will be just fine. Most of us... ok all of us in here are flash-a-holics and can't help ourselves that's why we do it... Do some reading in here take a look at rom pics and see if you really really really like something...
Good luck
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have seen several ROMs I love the look of, including AOKP, CM9, and Caulkin's ROMs. My only issue with ROMs is the fact that things can go wrong with flashing, and they can brick the device. And from what ive heard, there is an increased chance of bricking when flashing an ICS ROM while on GB. I have no backup device to go to if something like that does happen, so thats why Im staying away from flashing for now.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
EggosEvo said:
I have seen several ROMs I love the look of, including AOKP, CM9, and Caulkin's ROMs. My only issue with ROMs is the fact that things can go wrong with flashing, and they can brick the device. And from what ive heard, there is an increased chance of bricking when flashing an ICS ROM while on GB. I have no backup device to go to if something like that does happen, so thats why Im staying away from flashing for now.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The brick usually come from flashing to gb from ics using ics repacked kernels. There is always some risk/chance of brick from a bad flash, but El26 with cwm is fairly safe and the last kernel to have offical cwm. That is the only kernel i will use to flash anythin. I flash new roms every week. I have flashed to and from ics with no issues.
Sent on HyDrA using Tapatalk 2
EggosEvo said:
I have seen several ROMs I love the look of, including AOKP, CM9, and Caulkin's ROMs. My only issue with ROMs is the fact that things can go wrong with flashing, and they can brick the device. And from what ive heard, there is an increased chance of bricking when flashing an ICS ROM while on GB. I have no backup device to go to if something like that does happen, so thats why Im staying away from flashing for now.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My friend you have been misinformed.... There is a risk in everything we do so like I said if worried don't do it. If you take some more time and read you will see that the tar files are pretty brick proof and problems have occurred when flashing roms on ICS and using an ICS recovery. Most developers have stopped using CWM in ICS roms.
Clearly you need to do a lil more reading if you want to root but like suggested just relax and wait for the OTA and you will be OK.... One more thing all instructions say to flashEL26 kernel which is GB to flash anything ICS..... so flashing ICS rom while on GB is wrong
EggosEvo said:
I have never rooted a phone before(well technically I rooted an HTC Inspire, which I was asked to do, but I did nothing on it involving the Root). What are some reasons I should root, and can anything go wrong during the root process? Just putting this out there, I will not be flashing any ROMs, as I know there is a chance that the device can be bricked While flashing if something goes wrong, and I do not have a spare phone to go back to if something does go wrong.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. Titanium Backup: remove those pesky system apps that Sprint really thinks you need.
2. File explorers: Being able to modify system folders to change things like the boot animation, etc.
3. Ad blocking: The ability to block ads (moral issues notwithstanding... but some apps have no paid version to get rid of the ads.)
4. Once you've rooted, it's just the beginning. You may change your mind about flashing and rooting your phone is the first step in learning more about your phone and the AndroidOS in general.
I have not seem anyone mention that it's also about the about the damn principal of the matter... why shouldn't you have root access for a device you bought? Also if you ODIN back to EL26 to flash, carefully read all instructions posted with the rom, and wait a day or two after the release and check the comments to make sure there hasn't been some sort of inexplicable rash of bricks thanks to the rom you won't have any problems to speak of... other than not being able to fathom how much better something like AOKP is than stock touchwiz gingerbread
Thanks to everyone. I've decided that I will root when the official ICS launches for my phone.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Personally, I root to follow fledging developers open their ROMs. It is exhilarating to see the new stuff that people come up with and the creativity that ensues because of it.
Also enhancing my phone experience with free hotspot access and customization doesn't help. However if none of these interesting you I wouldn't recommend it.
Reason to root
I root because it can be done. It's that simple. To me, it feels like regardless of the magnitude of what you can or cannot do while rooted, or how easy or difficult it may be to root your phone, a skilled user should have access to everthing your phone is capable of.
Plus, I feel like I'm "sticking it to the man", which is an added bonus!
My main reason for rooting was to remove the bundled software that comes with the phone. But I love that fact that I don't have any ads either! If u decide to root, download AdFree from the market & u'll realize just how many "free" apps use adware
I don't get why some people have issues with their that I don't have and I have problems that other people have when we are using the same device (are we?) Galaxy W. What I know is that, the difference between all our phones is the baseband, right? Does that make a difference to anything?
Sent from my GT-I8150
imadiu said:
I don't get why some people have issues with their that I don't have and I have problems that other people have when we are using the same device (are we?) Galaxy W. What I know is that, the difference between all our phones is the baseband, right? Does that make a difference to anything?
Sent from my GT-I8150
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
not only that, but their usage pattern also contributes a lot
Sent from my GT-I8150 using xda premium
imadiu said:
I don't get why some people have issues with their that I don't have and I have problems that other people have when we are using the same device (are we?) Galaxy W. What I know is that, the difference between all our phones is the baseband, right? Does that make a difference to anything?
Sent from my GT-I8150
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It depends on our customization and so forth like someone using their phone mainly for gaming would lose their battery quicker than someone who just has theirs for calling people and so forth. It depends on the user so of course people would have different problems even though the phone itself is the same.
imadiu said:
I don't get why some people have issues with their that I don't have and I have problems that other people have when we are using the same device (are we?) Galaxy W. What I know is that, the difference between all our phones is the baseband, right? Does that make a difference to anything?
Sent from my GT-I8150
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
As JA*G above stated, people customise their phones differently, which can cause significant differences when flashing, etc.
Also, a lot of issues arise from restoring backups from programs such as Titanium Backup, or Nandroid (CWM). Restoring backups, especially between different versions of Android, can lead to a lot of random issues, and stability problems.
Personally, I am in your shoes. I always full-wipe, and never ever back anything up. I'd rather manually download and re-install all my Apps, and use a memory card to keep my photos and music safe, than run the risk of not getting a 'clean flash'.
That said, there are countless users who have never had an issue restoring backups. It's all in how diligent you are at following instructions, your patience, and your ability to understand rather than just ask blind questions
juzz86 said:
That said, there are countless users who have never had an issue restoring backups. It's all in how diligent you are at following instructions, your patience, and your ability to understand rather than just ask blind questions
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But not everyone gets the same result even after following the instructions given by the devs for each custom rom. Really left me bewildered and i can't help them when they have a problem that i don't have... Helpless
Thats just the way it is. You cannot please every one as they say. Its that simple.
Sent from my GT-I8150 using xda premium
Karmalot said:
Thats just the way it is. You cannot please every one as they say. Its that simple.
Sent from my GT-I8150 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is true. You've also gotta remember that everyone uses a different brand cable to connect, they use a different USB controller, different drivers, different OSes etc.
You may just be onto a great setup for flashing and stability. It's taken me a long time, a few bricks and a lot of reading, but I'm finally there too :good:
Sometimes, even the subtle nuances of the method you use can make all the difference, like when you plug the cable, whether you wait until everything is installed properly, whether you restart the PC after every install etc. Diligence plays a big part in getting it right
Not every phone is built equal, either. Especially Samsung phones. Two alongside each other rarely have the same fit-and-finish. I definitely think their quality control could do with a little bit of a kick in the pants :good:
juzz86 said:
This is true. You've also gotta remember that everyone uses a different brand cable to connect, they use a different USB controller, different drivers, different OSes etc.
You may just be onto a great setup for flashing and stability. It's taken me a long time, a few bricks and a lot of reading, but I'm finally there too :good:
Sometimes, even the subtle nuances of the method you use can make all the difference, like when you plug the cable, whether you wait until everything is installed properly, whether you restart the PC after every install etc. Diligence plays a big part in getting it right
Not every phone is built equal, either. Especially Samsung phones. Two alongside each other rarely have the same fit-and-finish. I definitely think their quality control could do with a little bit of a kick in the pants :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And for some reason people still don't get. They don't realize we cannot do much for them, and i quote "it all starts with you". Searching, reading,understanding, if you made mistakes, search, read and try to understand more. I myself experienced bricks, i ask for some help, but still its myself who fixed my wonder.
Sent from my GT-I8150 using xda premium
juzz86 said:
snip......
Also, a lot of issues arise from restoring backups from programs such as Titanium Backup, or Nandroid (CWM). Restoring backups, especially between different versions of Android, can lead to a lot of random issues, and stability problems
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can I just rake slight issue with you regarding including Android backup above....
Of course, as we know, Nandroud is basically a snapshot of your Device partitions at a given point in time.
It really is useful to get back to how your system was at that time, particularly if you gave screwed up and need to recover...you don't need to wioe or anything, as the Nabdroid restore formats the partitions before restoring data...so you can get back to that point in time with the ROM you had.....very different from App backups with TB, where you are wanting to restore your Apps to a new ROM or version!!!
Sent either from my Sammy GT-i8150 or my Momo11 Bird Tablet!!
irishpancake said:
Can I just rake slight issue with you regarding including Android backup above....
Of course, as we know, Nandroud is basically a snapshot of your Device partitions at a given point in time.
It really is useful to get back to how your system was at that time, particularly if you gave screwed up and need to recover...you don't need to wioe or anything, as the Nabdroid restore formats the partitions before restoring data...so you can get back to that point in time with the ROM you had.....very different from App backups with TB, where you are wanting to restore your Apps to a new ROM or version!!!
Sent either from my Sammy GT-i8150 or my Momo11 Bird Tablet!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Absolutely my friend, I don't disagree in the slightest. It is a very handy tool that can save a lot of time and effort, as long as you adhere to a few rules
For me, though, the most important thing about a new flash is that I get the absolute minimum 'junk' and the absolute best experience and performance from it. In the past I used to backup almost daily, and could restore at any point in time. Nandroid is an excellent tool for those who keep the same ROM etc. installed forever, as that's how it works best.
When you flash a new kernel, new Android version, new recovery etc, you run the risk (it certainly doesn't always happen) of it restoring things to the wrong place, restoring launchers over launchers, frameworks over frameworks etc. All of this can lead to some of the random instabilities that people experience, plus the force closes etc.
Your mileage may vary, of course, and everyone is different. I don't dispute your point at all - it's just not for me
Hey all,
I'm pretty tired with the Sprint/Samsung shenanigans, and am seriously debating ditching this phone. The hardware is fine, but I haven't yet gotten the OTA ICS update yet (and don't seriously expect it to happen any time soon). For me, not having the latest Android OS is a major deal breaker--let's not go into why I didn't buy a phone with it when I had the chance, as I was basically lied to. With Jellybean now out, and still on GB, I'm pretty grumpy. I just want a clean, functional Google Android experience, and I don't feel like I'm getting it with the current, stock on SGS2.
I used to have an original Motorola Droid, and I'm familiar with the rooting/modding scene, but I've been away for a while and the learning curve appears to be really steep. Using Koush's ROM Manager software used to be so slick, but now appears to be largely useless for the SGS2. So, I'm feeling a bit discouraged.
TLDR / So, with basically no help/options from Sprint themselves, I'm faced with either spending a significant time reading & researching on rooting/modding my phone to ICS/JB, or possibly swapping it on the private market for a Galaxy Nexus. I imagine that, as a Google flagship phone, the Android OS experience is likely to be much better.
Anyone able to help? It'd be much appreciated.
Silentknyght said:
Hey all,
I'm pretty tired with the Sprint/Samsung shenanigans, and am seriously debating ditching this phone. The hardware is fine, but I haven't yet gotten the OTA ICS update yet (and don't seriously expect it to happen any time soon). For me, not having the latest Android OS is a major deal breaker--let's not go into why I didn't buy a phone with it when I had the chance, as I was basically lied to. With Jellybean now out, and still on GB, I'm pretty grumpy. I just want a clean, functional Google Android experience, and I don't feel like I'm getting it with the current, stock on SGS2.
I used to have an original Motorola Droid, and I'm familiar with the rooting/modding scene, but I've been away for a while and the learning curve appears to be really steep. Using Koush's ROM Manager software used to be so slick, but now appears to be largely useless for the SGS2. So, I'm feeling a bit discouraged.
TLDR / So, with basically no help/options from Sprint themselves, I'm faced with either spending a significant time reading & researching on rooting/modding my phone to ICS/JB, or possibly swapping it on the private market for a Galaxy Nexus. I imagine that, as a Google flagship phone, the Android OS experience is likely to be much better.
Anyone able to help? It'd be much appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For ICS official version then safe kernel/recovery All flashed in ODIN under the PDA slot
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421
There is a JB Rom out but its not fully stable yet. after you have the custom kernel/recovery then you can flash to a custom ROM. The ROMs in my sig, I've had awesome experience with as everything works, not laggy and looks a hell of a lot better than stock. But I would stick with SGS2. I love this phone.
huh
Silentknyght said:
Hey all,
I'm pretty tired with the Sprint/Samsung shenanigans, and am seriously debating ditching this phone. The hardware is fine, but I haven't yet gotten the OTA ICS update yet (and don't seriously expect it to happen any time soon). For me, not having the latest Android OS is a major deal breaker--let's not go into why I didn't buy a phone with it when I had the chance, as I was basically lied to. With Jellybean now out, and still on GB, I'm pretty grumpy. I just want a clean, functional Google Android experience, and I don't feel like I'm getting it with the current, stock on SGS2.
I used to have an original Motorola Droid, and I'm familiar with the rooting/modding scene, but I've been away for a while and the learning curve appears to be really steep. Using Koush's ROM Manager software used to be so slick, but now appears to be largely useless for the SGS2. So, I'm feeling a bit discouraged.
TLDR / So, with basically no help/options from Sprint themselves, I'm faced with either spending a significant time reading & researching on rooting/modding my phone to ICS/JB, or possibly swapping it on the private market for a Galaxy Nexus. I imagine that, as a Google flagship phone, the Android OS experience is likely to be much better.
Anyone able to help? It'd be much appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sounds like you would like a iPhone
Seriously though. This is xda plenty of stable ics builds including cm9 and aokp to satisfy any need all found in development section :thumbup:
Rooting is easy. Just takes some reading and comprehension skills that we all should have
Sent from my SPH-D710 using Tapatalk 2
I think gb way more stable, faster, more responsive, and has better battery life. Ics is not going to give you any thing better than you already have it might even make it worse. I'm considering downgrading to gb calkulin 3.0 and looking for a nexus aswell... If you need ics one click ff18 is the safest and easiest way to get it.. Coming from other phone its hard catching up aswell im still afraid of flashing because I have no insurance or a way to replace my phone BUT there are many excellent roms out there you just have to be carefull and you will be fine
g_ding84 said:
For ICS official version then safe kernel/recovery All flashed in ODIN under the PDA slot
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421
There is a JB Rom out but its not fully stable yet. after you have the custom kernel/recovery then you can flash to a custom ROM. The ROMs in my sig, I've had awesome experience with as everything works, not laggy and looks a hell of a lot better than stock. But I would stick with SGS2. I love this phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Humor me, here. My reading comprehension is fine, but I appreciate confirmation of steps. From stcck EL29, I assume:
1. Flash official ICS version linked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1721229
2. Flash safe kernel/recovery, AGAT_v0.4.0, linked: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1767421
3. Then what...? A choice to stay on stock rooted ICS or to flash any other rom? If I should choose to flash to a different rom, or a JB rom when they're more stable, will the safe kernel/recovery avoid all the nonsense of flashing back to EL26, etc.?
EDIT: Also, is CWM still necessary, or has it been obsoleted? It seems like with ODIN / Mobile ODIN, there is no need for CWM to flash new mods. Is this correct?
Thanks again.
Lol. I never questioned your reading comprehension. Yes that is the correct steps. As for agats safe kernel/recovery I use it all the time. It has the brick code (eMMC wipe) removed/disabled. Then after that yes flash whatever custom rom you would like. Flashing the EL26 kernel is I believe for leaving CM9 and AOKP to another rom. TW based.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Silentknyght said:
Anyone able to help? It'd be much appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is a safe, easy and quick method for the SGS2 (assuming Sprint's Epic 4G Touch):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342728
That said, I'm going back to GB. I have 2 Epic 4Gs and both drop wifi after a few minutes (off at sleep not enabled). Plus, Google seems to have become a bit more invasive in ICS for my taste.
g_ding84 said:
Lol. I never questioned your reading comprehension. Yes that is the correct steps. As for agats safe kernel/recovery I use it all the time. It has the brick code (eMMC wipe) removed/disabled. Then after that yes flash whatever custom rom you would like. Flashing the EL26 kernel is I believe for leaving CM9 and AOKP to another rom. TW based.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks... I did both. I'm not really happy with Touchwiz, and I'd really prefer an Android experience closer to a Google flagship phone. Any recommendations? Is there a similarly easy & straightfoward way to do it, or only the "back to EL26" (or similar) rigamarole?
Silentknyght said:
Thanks... I did both. I'm not really happy with Touchwiz, and I'd really prefer an Android experience closer to a Google flagship phone. Any recommendations? Is there a similarly easy & straightfoward way to do it, or only the "back to EL26" (or similar) rigamarole?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You should really check out QBking77's videos on youtube. Go to his Epic 4g Touch channel. Any situation you can think of when flashing, he shows you step by step on how to do it (or undo it) with links to all the required files.
oksoood Muller's
s9amme said:
You should really check out QBking77's videos on youtube. Go to his Epic 4g Touch channel. Any situation you can think of when flashing, he shows you step by step on how to do it (or undo it) with links to all the required files.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I did have Frankenstein's Ego 4.5 on my E4GT for a while, but when I tried to switch to AOKP Milestone 6, somehow it bombed out while following QBKing77's vids. So... hence, I'm here, asking questions, and exploring options.
I'll give it another try later tonight when my kid's asleep.
Thanks, again. :good:
Mobile ODIN is my friend. Keep the direct boot kernel on your sd card. I also use it to flash agats kernels. No yellow triangle as well. I know how ya feel. I got two kids. Lol
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
I don't like Touchwiz either but basically it is just a launcher skin. Install a new launcher like Nova or Apex and you'll be very close to a vanilla Android experience and you'll never even see all the TW crap. Uninstall the bloatware with Titanium backup and you might not mind TW based roms at all.
If you want an alterative to TW look, I recommend The Blu Kuban ROM (ics). Most of the TW elements are removed and it feels like a completely different phone. All the stock apps are themed too and its very customizable on how you want it to look. Lots of helpful people in the faq ROM thread as well if you are unsure of anything.
Sent from my SPH-D710 using XDA
Silentknyght said:
Thanks... I did both. I'm not really happy with Touchwiz, and I'd really prefer an Android experience closer to a Google flagship phone. Any recommendations? Is there a similarly easy & straightfoward way to do it, or only the "back to EL26" (or similar) rigamarole?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For an aosp rom(non twiz) I recommend aokp, it has tons of extra settings for customization and the cm9/10 themes work with theme manager in aokp. If you wanna flash straight to aokp, Odin el26+cwm.tar from your PC (or mobile Odin) boot to recovery volume+ & power, flash aokp.zip wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache & dalvik cache, flash aokp.zip again, wipe both caches flash gapps.zip, reboot to android
We are legion, for we are many.
Sent from the DarkSide of the GalaXy with a MEK device
If you are on the official ff18 build to get the ICS look and feel go to settings, and then go to applications, then select all, then go down to twlauncher, and press clear default, when you hit the home key on your phone a menu will come up select the first option if you like it make it your default.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app
Thanks, everyone, for your help. I ended up installing CM9 Alpha 6, using the Mobile-Odin w/ the Directboot CWM method. Fairly painless, and more to the point, the look & feel is really close to what I desired.
CM9?
Hi guys im on stock FF18 and I would really like to try stock ICS because it looks fluid and looks good. How do I install CM9 from having stock FF18 unrooted? I have tried to research this but a lot of the guides out there are only for EL29. Thanks guys Im pretty new to this.