I am thinking of buying the A100 wifi for car navigation (using Sygic for Hong Kong).
hopefully some of you can answer some questions for me
(1) what GPS chipset is it using? SiRF III?
(2) how is the GPS lock without wifi or any sort of internet assistance?
(3) your impression of using the A100 for car navigation.
(4) Any experience using Sygic? and in Hong Kong if possible.
The GPS chipset is Broadcom BCM4751.
As for the locking performance, I use my A100 for geocaching, outdoors, no WiFi assistance, and it takes one or two minutes to grab 3 or 4 satellites. Much better than my Archos 5!
I also use mine for navigation and I use Sygic, but not in Hong Kong, in the US. It works amazingly well for me. It takes only a minute or so to get lock without wifi and I never drop. I was even in West Virginia within a bunch of mountains and I still had no problem finding a lock.
The GPS works just fine and I would recommend it for navigation.
i'm using Navigon in Germany and GPS works mutch better than my I9000 !
[OT] Anyone has a good car dock for the A100?
I use a universal GPS mount that hooks into my air conditioning vents. I am concerned with the amount of weight that is placed on the plastic vent, but I don't want to deal with a suction cup because of the mark it will leave on the window. People break into cars if they have marks from GPS mounts.
what maps?
thanx
I use Sygic. It works really well for me.
My unit is not able to lock onto any satellite signal. It would give me the "searching for location" message even after leaving it be for 5 mins.
I have all of the fields checked; "Use Wireless Networks", "Use GPS Satellites" and "Use Location for Google Search" but it still doesn't lock. I am using the stock Navigation app that comes with it. Am I doing something wrong?
Download the app called GPS Status.
If your WiFi is on and is location enabled, you should get a lock within a couple of minutes. If not, it may take up to 10 minutes to get your first lock. After that, every lock will come much much faster.
To get a lock faster it helps to hold the tab at 90 dreg to the ground in landscape with the SDcard up. From what I read the antenna is located there. It also needs a clear view of the sky.
Hi there,
I recently bought an acer a100 and today I tried to use the gps but unfortunately NO luck(by no I mean 0-ZERO Sats found! NIL!!!). I have OTA 4.0.3 with ics build.prop from the forum.
I have already tried:
1. Set the ntg to Europe Austria(where I live)
2. Waited 10min for a fix on my window trying to use "clear view to the sky" (4th floor)
3. Updated the A-GPS data with GPS Status app
Please help me?!
P.S. If I put my old SGS I9000 next to the tablet, the Samsung fixes 8 or more Sats within 10sec
Mine is in-dash in my car and it still locks on ....WiFi tether does make it a lot better at least in google navigation
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I even went and installed FlexReaper but still NO luck. There is not even 1 Sat after 25mins....strangely I could not find anyone in Google with the same issue...
I've never timed mine to the minute. i can load up GPS status and wait several minutes before a lock has been achieved. I wad thinking about buying a bluetooth GPS. I can use it on any device and solve my issues..
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Has anyone managed to get their GPS Locking in Google Maps?
I've used QuickGPS to download the database and set Google Maps to use GPS but it never gets a fix.
When in TomTom it knows theres satalites about but doesn't connect to any.
Wondering if I have a duff.... anyone else?
How fast do you connect to satalites?
Have you been out of the house? Some houses really interferre with the connection.
Also, maybe there are some settings in the application you have to change? It should get a fix pretty quick. (first time from 10 sec tot 60, after that, below 10 sec).
So you have updated the quick GPS? Did you (after running tomtom and getting the update for the first time) do a soft reset?
quarintus said:
Have you been out of the house? Some houses really interferre with the connection.
Also, maybe there are some settings in the application you have to change? It should get a fix pretty quick. (first time from 10 sec tot 60, after that, below 10 sec).
So you have updated the quick GPS? Did you (after running tomtom and getting the update for the first time) do a soft reset?
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Yeah, did a soft reset after I turned A-GPS on in Advanced Config program. Have tried it in work which usually gets a fix, but will try outdoors, just thought I'd ask the question first
why did you do it on in advanced config? maybe that's where it went wrong. Can't remember me having to put A-GPS on in advanced Config program.
I had the issue in google maps where I could not get a lock. I had to manually configure connectivity to com port 4 in settings.
After that it has worked perfectly. I cannot say if TomTom works or not as I am waiting for my ne SD card to be delivered.
I have however noticed that everytime I sync with active sync QuickGPS always moans it is out of date even thoguh I might have updated it about 1/2 an hour ago.
Its not a major issue as its connected to my PC and just downloads the data again. i'm just ignoring it.
Do not use A-gps.
I have my TP2 fixing with no problem without it: first fix in 55", then always under 10".
Try and use for first fix Quickgps.
ninja.rogue said:
Do not use A-gps.
I have my TP2 fixing with no problem without it: first fix in 55", then always under 10".
Try and use for first fix Quickgps.
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Brilliant, turned off A-GPS and loaded TomTom 7.915/Google Maps, got a lock, even indoors.
Spot on, thanks for that!
Turn off A-GPS?
I keep seeing that to make the GPS work better, while also using QuickGPS, the A-GPS should be turned off?
How do I do this?
I have only had the Touch Pro2 for a few days, but have not been able to get a satellite lock in Google Maps even when standing outside away from many buildings.
If it would work better with A-GPS disabled, please tell me how to do this!
Thanks,
Dazzer
Dazzer said:
I keep seeing that to make the GPS work better, while also using QuickGPS, the A-GPS should be turned off?
How do I do this?
I have only had the Touch Pro2 for a few days, but have not been able to get a satellite lock in Google Maps even when standing outside away from many buildings.
If it would work better with A-GPS disabled, please tell me how to do this!
Thanks,
Dazzer
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It should be turned off by default, I turned mine on using a program called Advanced Config.
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It should be turned off by default, I turned mine on using a program called Advanced Config.
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Ok, thanks, just going to go try Google Maps again to see if I can get a lock. Maybe I just wasn't outside long enough, or far enough away from buildings last time.
Hopefully I can make GPS work soon
Ok, I just sat outside for about 20 minutes, in the middle of a field, away from any buildings, and was unable to get any GPS lock!
What is wrong here?
I have not touched the GPS Port settings in the control panel, but Google Maps only says Seeking Satellites (0) all the time.
If I do change Google Maps to use COM 4 Baud 4800, it gets worse and says Seeking Satellites (48037656) or some other equally stupid number! At least 0 makes sense, as there are not millions of GPS satellites, only about 20!
Please help, surely there is some way to make GPS work?
Thanks,
DW
Hi all,
AGPS is not currently supported by any UK Networks, so should be turned off if in the UK.
Cheers,
Beasty
i think i ended up setting all mine to com0 but i think it wasn't working originally coz i was sitting in the car and it badly needs a wash (yes that bad). Just stuck it up by window for around 2 mins and it had 8 satellites but i've reset it so often since i last used the gps i wouldn't have been surprised with around 5 mins ... 20 on the other hand is a bit daft
Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong with settings somewhere, as in 20 minutes outside it never indicated a single satellite in Google Maps.
I have downloaded the Advanced Configuration tool, and it says that A-GPS is Disabled, which is correct for the UK, so there is nothing to change here.
I have tried changing the Port settings, but I don't know what I should change it too. The Hardware GPS port is blank!
Getting close to giving up for the day, but I really want to get GPS working soon!
Dazzer said:
Yeah, I'm beginning to wonder if there is something wrong with settings somewhere, as in 20 minutes outside it never indicated a single satellite in Google Maps.
I have downloaded the Advanced Configuration tool, and it says that A-GPS is Disabled, which is correct for the UK, so there is nothing to change here.
I have tried changing the Port settings, but I don't know what I should change it too. The Hardware GPS port is blank!
Getting close to giving up for the day, but I really want to get GPS working soon!
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Ok, I had the same problems, have you updated Quick GPS? Are you using Google Maps?
If you go into settings and go to External GPS my GPS Program Port os COM4 next page GPS Hardware Port is none and Baud Rate is 4800.
Make sure settings are same and restart phone.
Have you installed anything since getting phone? Might be worth doing hard reset and trying is "out of the box" so to speak.
I could confirm the GPS is working and flawlessly! Much quicker than my old HTC P3600i and the locking is done in the CBD area!
I used the QuickGPS (download the latest update) and then using my GPS software called TechrificWay for Australian (it's a rebrand of NavNGo iGo MyWay 8)
Very happy ^^
(I need to set the TechrificWay application settings to find the GPS unit on COM4 though)
I actually spoke to HTC today and they think it's actually a fault with the hardware, possibly the internal antenna for the GPS is not connected properly.
Slightly annoying as I now need to send it back to get a replacement, or have it repaired, but good in that it's not a problem with me using it! There definitely is something wrong that I can't fix, I just can't wait to get one that works now!
I can get a lock, but get bad lag, and it wonders off course regularly. I wonder if it could be that the radio is not that great for GPS, as many other HTCs have suffered with GPS performance that has gotten better with certain flashed radios?
HTC gave me a generic response of "check these settings" (which were all as they should be in terms of com port and baud rate etc... So I think I'll have to call them if it keeps crapping out on me
(Fortunately) For me it turned out to be a genuine hardware fault causing the GPS to not work. I spoke to HTC and they believe I was the first in the UK to need to get a replacement due to a genuine hardware fault, which I guess is an honor (just a very annoying one!).
Even with the GPS not working for the week that I used it, I loved the handset, can't fault it, and can't wait until tomorrow when I should be receiving my brand new replacement, hopefully with working GPS and no faults!
Thanks for the suggestions here though, I needed to make sure it was a hardware fault before sending it back for a replacement.
I've tested three over 30km trips with Tom Tom 7 installed on the device.
Haven't lost a signal once. So it works fine here in Finland.
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Hi,
I am a complete newbie to smart phones and a proud owner of a TP2. I am having trouble using the GPS.
Doesn't the TP2 come with GPS chipset? Do I need to do any configuration before I can use it.
My phone came installed with Google maps and McGuider softwares. When I use McGuider, it says "waiting for a valid signal" and remains in that stage for a while. When I choose "Use GPS" in Googlemaps, it says "Seeking GPS Satellite (0)).
What should I do? Please help me.
It said that for mine when using google maps as well but yesterday I took it in the car and drove around for a bit and it latched on to 11 satellites about 5minutes into the drive. Also go to 'All Programs' and update QuickGPS
Goodluck
this may help with the GPS.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=542699
No Luck
I saw in other threads of this forum that GPS might take sometime to connect to the satellite the first time you use it.
So I opened my McGuider program and left it overnight for it to find a valid signal. In the morning I was terribly disappointed to see tat it was still searching for a signal.
I did try the quick GPS option.
I have not installed the hotfix that was mentioned by drgi_sk. Shall try that.
Meanwhile any other suggestions? The program I am using says it is using Com4 with 4800 BD. Is this by default?
koopharaoh said:
I saw in other threads of this forum that GPS might take sometime to connect to the satellite the first time you use it.
So I opened my McGuider program and left it overnight for it to find a valid signal. In the morning I was terribly disappointed to see tat it was still searching for a signal.
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Did you leave it in your car? GPS doesn't work well indoors - best if there is a visible line of sight to the satellites.
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Ok guys..I am really sorry about my ignorance.
Today, I went outside and stood under the sun for a good 5 minutes and it finally connected. Even though I put the phone near my window sill yesterday night, it didnt work.. I guess it is the "visible line of sight to the satellites" that Mesquire mentioned that was the issue.
Once again sorry for wasting your time and thanks for the support..
Hi
I really dont think its your ignorance here that is the problem.
The GPS seems really Buggy.
Sometimes it will connect, othertimes I get the searching for satellites problem.
When using Tomtom in the car out on country roads and I stopped waiting for a signal, after 10mins I gave up, no signal, LOST
Every once and a while it does work and I get 5-10 satellites, so it can work...
I am used to using a BT GPS so I know about how the signal works, so thats not the problem.
I'll give that link a go hopefully it helps I dont want to carry around a BT GPS and my phone, thats half the reason I upgraded...
No problem with mine, obviously indoors it struggles but outside can easily get 9-10. mine has just picked up 4/5 satellites indoors on my desk about 8 ft from a window
Why is it taking so long to find satellites??? I have to wait about 3-5 minutes...
Any ideas on how to make it work faster?????
Never heard about this problem.
my one locks into GPS satellite within 30 sec of turning on the GPS every time.
maybe you need to turn on the use Wi-Fi to locate function from setting>location.
which help to locate itself by using wireless mast triangulation.
might boost the speed of GPS lock.
also get the app called GPS Test from market to see how many satellite your phone picks up.
it gives a detail breakdown of satellite info and number of satellites.
I tried that but I can see no difference.
Is there a programme like the one I used to have in windows mobile diamond2, that connects to internet and speed up the process???? I am talking about the one that needs to be updated every week, but I can't remember the name right now. . .
When i plug my phone into the car charger it cnt find gps
I think it was called QuickGPS?
I had it on my HTC Touch HD too.
I don't think there is such app for Android as the built-in triangulation via mobile network mast does it for you anyway.
You know how it shows your current location weather in the clock. also if you use Google map your location within 500 meters.
Try getting the GPS Test app from market for free to see if the phone is picking up any satellite at all.
if it's a brand new handset might be the chip is faulty. then you should be able to get an exchange as it should be easily demonstrated side by side on a working Desire.
Sorry could not be any more help, not much of an expert myself.
well there are a lot of more knowledge people in this forum some one might be able to help.
I will have a look around at other forum to see if anyone else came up with the same problem.
checked my phone just now and I still get GPS lock in 40 sec inside my house even though it's quite a bit cloudy in London today.
Gps locks in about 20 secs for me, however i always had problems until i factory defaulted since then it has worked perfectly
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Guys,
According to this site, the problem with the GPS is the software Google Maps
Read this:
http://samsungi9000galaxys.com/galaxy-s-gps-review-sygic-gps-signal-and-gps-lock-times/
So it seems that using other Navigation software gives very good GPS performance.....
But how come using the GPS TEST software also shows that the GPS is loosing sattelites lock and erratic performance? I mean if the cause of the problem is the Google Map, testing the GPS receiver using GPS TEST should show good signal lock and stable reception isnt it?
widjaja74_us said:
Guys,
According to this site, the problem with the GPS is the software Google Maps
Read this:
http://samsungi9000galaxys.com/galaxy-s-gps-review-sygic-gps-signal-and-gps-lock-times/
So it seems that using other Navigation software gives very good GPS performance.....
But how come using the GPS TEST software also shows that the GPS is loosing sattelites lock and erratic performance? I mean if the cause of the problem is the Google Map, testing the GPS receiver using GPS TEST should show good signal lock and stable reception isnt it?
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It's a software setting: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7281059
Other android devices have the same problem with a wrong setting.
Its not true, I tried google maps, co-pilot and NDrive and all gave really, really crappy gps performance. Upgrading to JG5 firmware has improved things a lot but its still pretty unusable for me.
You know I was just about to post that I think the issue is with google maps and not the phone. If I apply the ntp europe fix my gps locks very quickly and stays locked to within 16 feet in gps test when driving about.within google maps navigation the performance remains as shocking. Arrrggghhh!
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I wish i could help testing the phone with different GPS/navigation software to validate the analysis, but I already sold my phone last week out of desperation due to the the GPS problem and lag problem and phone freeze problem and signal drop problem when you hold it a certain way....
but i love the design, size of the screen, the thinness of the phone and the super amoled display.....
Ouch...
Why did you not return your phone instead? I have never had my SGS freeze and I have never been able to drop a call by cupping the antenna, altough the signal strength does go down, wich it will on ALL phones with built in antennas since you are shilding the antenna... ( NOT SAME AS IPHONE4 design flaw where you shortcircuit 2 different antennas and that part seems particulary hard to grasp for some on this forum....)
But, to get on subject again, the GPS has been bad, that is for sure and I hope this is a step in the right direction.
Its clear that testing the gps is waaay too subjective and subject to too many factors. Applications have no effect on the gps performance.
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My gps has been working perfectly with 3 firmwares.. it's much faster then the one on my old iphone 3G
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My GPS seems to be very hit and miss, but it has worked on the several occasions that I have really needed it (getting lost).
And widjaja why are you still shambling about this forum when you sold your phone? get back under your bridge.
Once again, another thread started because someone made one change, tested it and it worked, then posted how great it was. Trouble is since the GPS can work fine for days on end, and then not work for days on end, these supposed cures are pretty much all wrong.
The GPS doesnt work, and so far there hasnt been a public explaination as to why, just lots of guesswork, and no fix has been released (in any of the firmwares available today). It's coming, but its not here yet.
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Once again, another thread started because someone made one change, tested it and it worked, then posted how great it was. Trouble is since the GPS can work fine for days on end, and then not work for days on end, these supposed cures are pretty much all wrong.
The GPS doesnt work, and so far there hasnt been a public explaination as to why, just lots of guesswork, and no fix has been released (in any of the firmwares available today). It's coming, but its not here yet.
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Seems some phones work some dont.On jf3 my gps was shocking but on jg5 it has always been spot on with google navigation and co pilot and ive tested it a lot in all weathers.It has never lost lock and is always bang on with position.I even tested google maps satalite view in the car parked next to a tree and it had me right next to the tree-within 10 feet accuracy.I dont change any settings just leave it on whatever settings jg5 uses.Im in england if that makes any difference
Found a fix on another forum and its been working pretty well for me.
Enter *#*#1472365#*#* in the dialer to enter GPS settings and change the following:
Application Settings:
Operation Mode - MS Based
Use SkyHook - ON
Accuracy - 30
SUPL/CP Settings :
Server - supl.google.com
Server Port - 7276
SUPL Secure Socket - OFF
I was having problems with 3G and WIFI with these settings at first, so I left Operation Mode on Standalone and Skyhook OFF. Works great now. Just tested it and got 9 satellite locks and 5 in use.
source: http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=568&t=1661500&r=2&last=21080924
I'm in Hong Kong btw running local JF7 firmware. Hope this helps.
I'm almost convinced that most of the problems people are having is down to google maps. I'm not saying that tweaking the settings as people have, inc me, doesn't improve maters, but I believe there is an underlying compatibility issue between google maps and the galaxy which is making the issue seem worse than it is.
If I leave gps test running while driving I get at worst a lock down to 32 feet, speed is accurate and never lose lock even when on roads totally covered with big wet trees. It looks spot on.
Google maps navigation can't even get me in an accurate position when stationary, start driving and its bloody awful jumps all over the place and sometimes doesn't even move for 30 seconds after I've pulled away from a junction.
I've updated my supl settings to use google (manually edited the conf file, I don't use the hidden menu screen because even if you change nothing it makes changes to the conf file on exit, delete the file and reboot to refresh it) and updated my ntp settings to use europe.
In the jg5 rom google maps is built in, so I can't reinstall it or seem to be able to clear the cache to see if that helps in anyway.
It wouldn't surprise me if any gps fixed rom released by samsung contains a tweaked version of google maps that works.
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Hi,
is a-gps really working for you? Very inaccurate. Is it working only with wi-fi on? Is there any ROMs available that have this fixed?
Mine is working like charm... I do have to let it do its magic for 5 seconds though but that is logical
How accurate is it when you are inside of a building? With Google Maps for example...
Pretty good if I'm close to a window!
Otherwise how could it check for satellites?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assisted_GPS
No need to be close window...so I assume that it doesn't work for you either.
Here's my friends findings:
http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/jorimak/where_demo.htm
I assume that's problem of the network in finland. For me it's like this, in-car I get circle smaller then the car, so it actually points on my body. With wi-fi a-gps it does... the same.
At home with wi-fi only I get circle as big as my home or the village I am in. (smaller then the Nokia N95 circle on your friend's pic). With a-gps I get basically my room.
Or may it be the GPS chip in the phone has less satellites encoded in finland then CZE
GPS receivers rely on line of sight to get a lock on the satellites. So if its cloudy or you're in a building, the chances of getting an accurate lock are less and will take a lot longer. A-gps (assisted-gps) uses the wireless networks (wifi and mobile network) around it to help get a fix faster but with no real GPS lock it won't be accurate which is why you get the GPS circle to he the size of your village or room because that is the most accurate position that the GPS has managed to get via triangulation without a proper GPS lock.
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So why there's a huge difference between HTC and Nokia? Same network, same location, just different phone.
Page has been updated with static pictures: http://kotisivu.dnainternet.net/jorimak/where_demo.htm
oh I forgot, have you tried google earth? It does a lot better A-GPS for me
HTC support replied: "Our analysis shows that in certain situations, your phone will not be able to locate exactly the location from your friends. We will consider this function in future HTC phones".
So, the feature is just not there. Wonder how to use for example Footprints inside big mall? Or is this still software related problem and we should ask Goole to fix it...I will ask for HTC if they can tell.
Haven't tried GEarth yet.
try it, it's much more better.
Tried,makes no diffence here
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well next time you'll be on vacation somewhere in asia HTC will own nokia, so ;-)
Are there any agps settings on the Desire? On my N96 and N97 I can setup AGPS-Servers. Getting a gps fix on Nokia usually takes me around max. 5 seconds. Using my Desire approx. 5 minutes. Can't believe the difference is that much.
Ok, Symbian is crap compared to Android, but really, gps rules on Symbian...
yeah there must be some settings but I dunno where...
I have owned the first N95 since 2006 and the 8GB I still own. The A-GPS is far superior on the Desire IME. I use it daily during driving, walking, running, with nru and it is just superior on multiple domains. It is the first mobile GPS that has been practically usable for me. However, I don't use Latitude and I think your problem is more with how the A-GPS functions with this app than the A-GPS itself.
I've just tried it indoors where I'm getting 1 bar network reception, HSPDA running, WiFi disabled and from enabling the GPS, it took 17 seconds on GMaps to get a fix on me ~8m outside from where I'm actually sitting. Pretty darn accurate, but obviously antipode to what you're experiencing.
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Htc support told that the feature is missing from Android OS,so we should ask Google to add it.
I think there is something like SYSTEM/ETC/GPS.CFG where you can define servers,but that requires rooting I guess.
Not that big issue for me,but my friend is more upset.
Otherwise,gps is great,fast fix etc.
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how to use A-GPS on Laptop
Hi all,
In HTC desire built in A-GPS to know your position on maps. I have a situation if I want to use A-GPS on mobile to become positioning system like GPS on my laptop ???? help me, how to use
Ok, so if you go to your settings and go to locations there should be a setting that says use wireless networks (wifi or network access) pretty much assisted GPS right there. Don't get semantic on me here.
In my experience I've had no issues and get a very fast lock, better than my gf's Nokia N97 which can take upto and sometimes over 10 minutes to get a lock and that is with WiFi and network assistance
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