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which of the roms has a kernel already in it that allows for overclocking that you have been enjoying and have been stable for you?
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which of the roms has a kernel already in it that allows for overclocking that you have been enjoying and have been stable for you?
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Easy. CyanogenMod is arguably the most popular mod/rom out there... HIGHLY developed and supported. I believe it allows Overclocking to 1.5 out of the box. There's a RC2 (Release Candidate) out there for Gingerbread, that's CM7, or there's the latest Stable release 6.1.1, which is Froyo. But honestly, a Release Candidate is ALMOST as good as a stable.
the cyn roms, are they basically stock vanilla roms? sorry there are so many i am confused.
im coming from a mt4g and this G2 phone is slow in comparison (im overclocked to 1.2ghz at stable levels, using icedglacier rom from there)
does any of the roms mess around with call quality? im feeling that the G2 call quality is better than the mt4g.
If you're coming from the MyTouch 4G, I'd recommend you check out Virtuous, as well. It's a Sense ROM, so it's a bit different than stock, but out of the box it's overclocked to 1GHz (highest you can go without needing to change voltage, I believe), and you can flash the advanced kernel if you want full overclock control.
I was previously overclocking to 1.2GHz, but the last 2 versions of Virtuous I've stuck with the stock kernel (that's included in the ROM) and am really pleased with it thus far.
There are other things that can affect your phone's speed, including what's running in the background, what you have syncing, etc.
Sense rom means it has the htc crap on it right? That I do not want.
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tackleberry said:
Sense rom means it has the htc crap on it right? That I do not want.
From my permarooted HTC G2 via XDA app
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Yes, Sense is HTC's user interface overlay. Keep in mind that you don't have to use their launcher - I use LauncherPro, but keep Sense for the superior camera, music, and contacts applications. Just a thought, but everyone has their preferences (hence there's so many ROMs. )
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the cyn roms, are they basically stock vanilla roms? sorry there are so many i am confused.
im coming from a mt4g and this G2 phone is slow in comparison (im overclocked to 1.2ghz at stable levels, using icedglacier rom from there)
does any of the roms mess around with call quality? im feeling that the G2 call quality is better than the mt4g.
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Use either CM 6.1.1 Stable (Froyo) or CM 7 Nightly's (Gingerbread) with Pershoot's latest kernel. My G2 at 1.5ghz is as fast if not slightly faster than my friends MT4G at a similar OC level.
i use launcher pro now, im just not a fan of all the overlays they do. thats one thing about my mt4g, it sucks with all the overlay especially the contacts app and the phone app, it seems like it takes twice as long to load up.
CM 7 Nightly's INSTALLING now as i type, hoping for the best! thanks for the info folks, if i like it, ill be sure to donate a beer
edit...wifi does not work on this for some reason...
edit...wifi works, did a reboot...
I am having a problem with getting the google apps on the phone, i cant get to the market, or gmail it just opens and closes immediately, i did see there is a google addon to flash and im pretty certain how to do that from searching, but i cannot find for the life of me where that actual zip file is.
EDIT! HAHA SECONDS AFTER I POSTED ASKING FOR THE FILE I FOUND IT...HAHAHA.
Hi,
I have a HTC Desire Z and I'm currently using the Vision Sense 1.82.405.1 Untouched ROM. I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
I'm generally happy with the phone as it is now, but my main gripes are its speed - it lags noticeably sometimes - and battery life - I get about a day at most, and by that I mean from the time I wake up to the time I sleep, not 24hrs).
Are there any comparisons/writeups on what the various ROMs offer, and how they're different from one another?
Thanks.
I'm running Blackdroidmod 3.3.0 with stock Radio, set the governer @ Interactive min 386mhz and max 1016mhz and I'm using LauncherPro (plus) instead of the stock/ADW launcher. I love it and I reach 20 hours easily with moderate usage.
(2~ 4 calls/day, average of 10 texts, lots of whatsapp messages and activesync @ 2 accounts + 2 x pop3 accounts polling every hour, fb polling every 15 mins, weather sync every 2 hours, some gaming and listening to mp3) and it's always smooth (806mhz max is enough if you don't use multiple apps at the same time).
It's stable and everything works right away from the first time I flashed it. CM7.0 is good... but isn't very stable in my opinion and misses some applications while Blackdroidmod looks a bit like Sense.
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Hi,
I'm also thinking of trying out other ROMs, particularly those that are based on Gingerbread (though I admit I don't fully know what advantages Gingerbread has over Froyo).
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Really not much, if you are a Sense fan. Google fixed a bunch of aesthetic/theming stuff, and improved the keyboard. Most of which is moot, since HTC themes mostly override the theme changes, and HTC uses their own keyboard. There may be some performance improvements or bug fixes. But in running both Froyo and GB ROMs, I didn't notice much performance difference. This might be due to the fact that most of the current Gingerbread ROMs are ports from other phones, or based on the leaked Desire Z test ROM. But I have not tried the recent G2 (no Sense) leaked test ROM, which is supposed to be pretty fast.
HTC Sense really slows down the phone, so a move to any ROM without Sense will probably improve your performance. Alternately, the lag you are noticing is probably due to the Sense launcher, which seems to be a CPU and memory hog. Try another launcher, like ADW or Launcher Pro, and you will probably find it improves performance quite a bit. You will lose the HTC widgets, but retain some of the nice HTC features, like the camera.
Getting a "waking day" (charge overnight) out of a modern smartphone is pretty normal. Of course, it completely depends on how much you use your phone. But with moderate use, I have yet to get more than a day, on various ROMs and radios. I can get 24 hours+ on very light use. What is your screen brightness set to? The screen brightness is actually one of the biggest battery drain culprits. If its on auto, turn that off, and reduce the brightness to the lowest setting you find usable/tolerable. Mine is on 35%. Just going from auto to a lower setting can improve battery life quite a bit.
If you like sense, I've found the battery life on the Trollogen Mod 0.9.1 to be SPECTACULAR. So far it's given me the best battery life out of all the ROMs I've tried. That includes Virtuous with the advanced kernel and multiple SetCPU profiles and the stock Gingerbread ROMs.
I tried running the battery down last night at a friends place for laughs and left music running on Wi-Fi with full brightness. I was constantly turning the screen on and looking at websites and so forth and by the time I got home (6 hours later) it had only just hit 67%. What's surprising is I didn't need a custom kernel or to modify it with SetCPU
Wow, 3 replies, 3 different suggestions. This is gonna be tough...
So far I've only heard of Virtuous, GingerVillian and Cyanogenmod, never heard of the others.
Oh I forgot to mention I'd like something that's stable as well, I've noticed things crash/reload quite a bit currently.
Trollogen is still a beta but its fairly stable as far as I can see. But if stability is really an issue you should stick with virtuous and install a new kernel on it.
My suggestion for a stable rom would be Virtuous with the advanced kernel. With 1.0.2 OCed to 1.3GHz and stock battery,i got about 16hrs of life with moderate use. Replaced with mugen 1800mAh and now can get 20hrs with moderate use and 30hrs with light use.
Havent used CM or TGM yet, but SenseGinger goes have some bugs in it which turned me away before. I would probably stick with a Froyo release until the official 2.3 rom gets released by HTC.
Happy flashing
Sent from my Virtuous Desire Z 1.0.2 using XDA App
Lately there have been so many new ports, it's hard to keep up...but I do! (But mostly with Sense) Flash something new very night, but I always keep coming back to virtuous 1.0.2 with advanced kernel 2.2.0.
Everything just works, always (except HTC calendar widget disappears after a reboot, for some reason). Very speedy for sense, and being able to overclock pushes it into a winning position for me versus the gingerbread sense roms.
Xboarder56's stock gingerbread worked pretty well for me while I was on it for a couple of days. Worth a try!
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OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
Both Virtuous G-lite and Fusion have OC kernels and shouldn't have to flash a new one on install. Just have to get SetCPU or CPUTuner to enable the OC, both up to 1.5GHz.
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OK, thanks. Perhaps I'll try Virtuous. Are there any step by step guides to flash Virtuous ROM into my Desire Z, and what's the advanced kernel 2.2.0? Don't all Android use Linux kernel 2.6.x?
Thanks again.
Edit: OK I assume the Advanced Kernel 2.2.0 is what's found in the Virtuous kernel 2.x page here.
What if I want to install a Gingerbread kernel? I see there's a Gingerbread folder here with either glite or sense. What are these?
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G-Lite is a Gingerbread ROM, with no Sense. Fusion is a port of Gingerbread (from another phone), with Sense 3.0. Sense 3.0 has some cool new features, but the launcher takes up most of the phone's memory (our phone is not meant to run Sense 3.0, and we won't be getting it "officially" for this reason). Just about every time you go back to the launcher home, it needs to reload the launcher, which is annoying. There are also some graphical glitches. So I found Fusion fun to play with for a while, but I'm back on Froyo, probably until the official Sense ROM for our device is released (and a rooted version is posted here).
If you want Sense, stability and usability, the "original" Virtuous is probably what you want. Its easy to install. You can download straight in ROM Manager, and flash from there. You might not have to do a full wipe, since you are coming from a stock Froyo Sense ROM. But if you have any issues, you should probably wipe (dalvik, cache, and data) and flash again. Also, do a nandroid/clockwork backup of your current ROM, before you flash Virtuous, in case you have the need or desire to return to your current setup. ROM Manager will give you the choice to backup the current ROM when you go to flash Virtuous.
Virtuous comes overclocked to 1 GHz by default. The advanced kernel gives additional overclocking options (up to 1.51 GHz), that's all. Advanced kernel pretty much requires you to setup screen-off profiles with SetCPU (or similar app) or you will (AFAIK) almost certainly have issues with the screen waking. So you might not want to mess with it, and to stick with the default/included kernel, unless you are really interested in OC speeds over 1 GHz.
The Virtuous Gingerbread kernel allows overclocking of G-Lite and Fusion. They can't be used with the "regular" (Froyo based) Virtuous. Vice versa is also true.
But really, there isn't a whole lot that Virtuous actually gives you in addition to stock. You can flash the Godspeed kernel on the stock ROM, if you want to overclock. Virtuous also has trackpad wake, which is very cool. But again, you can do this mod on the stock ROM. So modding the stock ROM to your liking may be another option.
The insertcoin rom is another half way house option. It is Sense 2.1 based with some 3.0 bits added.
It is still a bit more memory intensive than stock, but it does have the very cool lockscreen, which is one of my main reasons for sticking with it. That and the CRT animations always keep me happy.
I have been using it as my daily driver for a while now.
Does G-Lite is a stable rom for G2 ?
Im searching for a stable, overclockable Rom based on 2.3
I read about CM7, and looks with so many issues on gps, etc..
Does G-Lite is stable and gps, bluetooth, youtube, etc works ?
Also, I need a tip, or a feature. I need to use a Rom (or chance any config) to put the Navigator voice on Brazilian Portuguese.
CM have this, but with the problems on GPS.
Any ideia ?
If you want something other then a Sense Rom. You could try meXdroid. It is stable and fast. It is a Gingerbread Rom (2.3.4) I have been using his roms for a while now. The dev and his team theme out the rom. Here is a link to meXdroid rom with screen shots. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=886184
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
pyromod 2.0 with smartass...1.5ghz and great batt life
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angusbrasil said:
I dont like sense.
Im searching for a stock android rom.
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meXdroid is not a Sense Rom. It just has a theme. Look at the link in the post above. You can see a few screen shots of the Rom there. You can overclock meXdroid to 1.5 ghz also. You really don't need to though. It is fast at 800 mhz. I know Quadrant does not mean a lot but at 800 mhz my scores are 2500+ and at 1.2 ghz my scores are 3000+.
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
smokeuout said:
it wasnt the ghz i was impressed by it was tje batt life to go with it...but ill try to post in the right section next time..lol..sorry
pimped out g2
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Oh no no. My post was not to say anything about your post. I was just stating as you did that meXdroid can overclock also. You can post here all you want. This is a question in the Q&A section not in the meXdroid thread. Your all good. Have a good one.
hey alright...it was the right section...lol..no im new to posting so im still learnin the areas and such...b seriously PYROMOD 2.0
pimped out g2
which is the best rom. for wildfire having Max. speed...
CM7 - removes all htc bloat and can be overclocked (at your own risk)
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which is the best rom. for wildfire having Max. speed...
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That's a question to be asked yourself.
AOSP roms have jit and are stable but they dont have sense widgets. The good part in sense roms is sense widgets and their integration to accounts like facebook, twitter etc..,
Check some roms and decide yourself. Depends on ur needs
bt cyanogen is nt working properly....its slow...any gd recomendation plz..........
and what is overclocked ??????sry i m new at it plz say.........
jagamohan1993 said:
bt cyanogen is nt working properly....its slow...any gd recomendation plz..........
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I think only u r saying it slow. Its really fast. Atleast I feel
Overclocking is increasing of cpu frequency to speed up the phone. We can find the difference but it wont be superfast. U can find it under settings / cyanogenmod settings / performance.
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Stick with Sense ROMs then, like JokerDroid, WildPuzzle and DK.
What is sence roms? ???
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Cn u plz tell me how to speed up the phone .....plZ
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head over to the Android Development section of the the wildfire forum and start reading about rooting your phone. I suggest using unRevoked. Once rooted a kernel needs to be flashed, i suggest HCDR.Jacobs.kernel v4.1 ad v4.2 has minor issues with wifi on some roms. The kernel is flashed in recovery which you should be familiar with if you are talking about roms and such. Once the kernel is installed you can download setCPU and overclock the phone to whatever you desire.
That is how you speed up the phone, if you wish to speed up startup browse the xda-developers home page and find the startup manager app, only a few days old and disable startup apps.
Next in terms of roms and speed, guys there is no clear definition as to what is meant by fast, true HTC sense roms are bloated but they make sense and usually allow you to get things done quicker and easier, cm7 is fast in terms of startup and how barebone the rom is. Both are fast and remember the rom is only as bloated as you make it yourself.
Another thing to keep in mind when talking about speed is the speed of your memory card, here the different classes come into play like a class 4 memory card will be faster than a class 2 and so forth.
Last but not least i would like to add that the fastest i have ever gotten my phone was at 245mhz min and 710mhz (ofcourse i could go to 760, but 710 is a sweetspot) max overclocked running a froyo sense with ADW EX launcher set to a preset default of performance. I assure you i have never seen the app drawer open and close and scroll as fast as that.
Hope that helps
CM7 is certainly the fastest.
What is the Best Sense ROM you guys have used so far? Did use Virtuous back in 2010 but made the switch to Gingerbread meXdroid. What would the least buggy and promblematic Sense ROM be?
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What is the Best Sense ROM you guys have used so far? Did use Virtuous back in 2010 but made the switch to Gingerbread meXdroid. What would the least buggy and promblematic Sense ROM be?
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Virtuous Unity Sense 1.26.0 is the best sense rom i have tried so far .i havnt had
any issues with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115333
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Virtuous Unity Sense 1.26.0 is the best sense rom i have tried so far .i havnt had
any issues with it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1115333
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is this laggy I've tried unity 1.25 and paradox. Both are sense 3.0, just so laggy and keep restarting
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is this laggy I've tried unity 1.25 and paradox. Both are sense 3.0, just so laggy and keep restarting
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Virtuous unity is really good. I all ways find sense rom's take a bit of time to settle in. If you use 1.26 you need to flash the DZ hboot, But its real easy
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is this laggy I've tried unity 1.25 and paradox. Both are sense 3.0, just so laggy and keep restarting
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I havnt had any of above issues .you can flash this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1121937 over unity 1.26 .i am getting better battry life and it is a bit smother. and for for rondom rebooting ,it is because on default it is clocked at 1.2 ghz
and some phones cant handle that. take it down to 1.1 or 1 ghz and it will solve the issue.
you can also flash a patch that is on the unity 1.26 thread .
Best Sense ROM
Hi guys,
I know this is a dead thread but the question has popped again. With the slew of ICS and Sense ROMs I would like to know which one is the best these days. I have tried CoreDroid and Andromadus HD but none match the speed of CM7 and ICS based ROMs (even in their beta stages).
I am not looking for an equal speed match but something that is atleast usable. All the Sense ROMs keep on failing at the launcher stage where it takes an eternity for the launcher to load when you press the HOME button.
Please let me know which Sense ROM do you guys find the best and what are your OC settings if such.
Thanks.
Android Revolution HD™ 7.0.0 is the most fluid and quick Sense ROM I've tried. I think it's so good because of the GPU rendering. I run it at 1GHz, even though it's set to 1.2GHz when you install it.
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Android Revolution HD™ 7.0.0 is the most fluid and quick Sense ROM I've tried. I think it's so good because of the GPU rendering. I run it at 1GHz, even though it's set to 1.2GHz when you install it.
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+1 on ARHD... beatmod bliss sense is fine too..
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+1 on ARHD too...fast and beatiful. I've tried one week ago virtous affinity 2.05.0.
It was quite good but the battery life wasn't. so I have changed to AHRD!
It's been a while where ppl always compare the best desire rom out there... let's discuss what rom u guys recommended for everyday use... I'm currently using Oxygen rom, fast stable and hell lot of spaces, and since i'm starting to use 3G, i gonna switch to sense rom, needed sense widget and stuff, might get insertcoin rom... what about u guys?
I'm currently using InsertCoin Sense 2.1/3.0 1.1.4 and although it is great to look at, I perhaps wouldn't recommend it for everyday use as in the new version I have been experiencing some lag and unfortunately (and probably most importantly) it hasn't been too great with battery life.. although I haven't used SetCPU to try and improve it.
I would almost be tempted to go for a FROYO based ROM, but I think what you'll have to do is test a few and see how they perform for you.
I'm running InsertCoin 1.1.4 as well and I'm having a blast. It does lag every now and then, but my battery life's brilliant - I usually have about 30% left when I go to bed. I'm probably not the heaviest user on the planet, though.
I'm using SetCPU though, so that might be why. It's set to 499-1190 (smartassV2) with a Screen Off rule for 245-460. Seems to do the trick.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Use this one, yesterday coolexe did fabulous update.. EVERYTHING is working perfectly, including camera and flash.
It's Sense 3.0 ROM (not 2.1 + 3.0) and its just fast as 2.1, i was shocked when tried it for a first time.
TBH it's atm. best Sense 3 ROM in Desire section, and i tried all of them.
I'm using stock HBOOT InsertCoin 1.1.4, working well for me.
I'm using my own Rom with custom hboot
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k3lcior said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040121
Use this one, yesterday coolexe did fabulous update.. EVERYTHING is working perfectly, including camera and flash.
It's Sense 3.0 ROM (not 2.1 + 3.0) and its just fast as 2.1, i was shocked when tried it for a first time.
TBH it's atm. best Sense 3 ROM in Desire section, and i tried all of them.
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gotta agree, it's really nice and smooth rom. check it out. but insert coin is ok also
Can highly recommend oxygen.
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I've been experimenting with ROMs for a few months now. Here is what I've found:
1) The most stable, light, low power ROM that I've used is MIUI. It has everything you need out of the box.
2) If you don't like the MIUI interface (read: like an iPhone and Android combined), the next best is Redux 1.2. Very low power, but very basic. It is basically a shell as I didn't like a lot of the stock components. I had to get a new launcher, dialer, contact manager and SMS app.
3) Sense-based ROMs feel nice until the battery dies... which happens way too quickly. The stock ROM was the most stable for me, I just wanted Gingerbread. All of the Sense-based ROMs that were non-stock seemed to buggy for me.
I'm a computer engineer, so I don't mind playing around with technology, but MIUI and the stock ROM were the only ones that I'd recommend to somebody less technical (or somebody that just wants the smartphone to work and not have to constantly look for fixes and / or ways to make the phone work the way it should out of the box) for daily use.
Yes I'm using that Rom too and can't fault it. It's fast for a sense 3 Rom.
Currently on MIUI 1.8.26.
Cant comment on the batt yet since i just flashed this yesterday but hell yeah, its fast.....
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1) The most stable, light, low power ROM that I've used is MIUI. It has everything you need out of the box.
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I have to say I disagree with almost all of that
It's based in cm7 so its one of the heaviest aosp Roms around.
To compare, miui xj, with my brutal stripping, I got down to 90MB bare bones. That's 30 MB bigger than dGB and 25MB bigger than redux in the same state.
Also imho, cm7 is heavier on battery, ergo so is miui. Redux is better power wise, although a miui custom kernel could help them there.
Out of interest what mA are you getting on 3g whilst idle?
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I am currently on IC 1.1.4 with newest noncallrec kernel. Works fine whereas 1.1.4 had some freeze issues, 1.1.3 worked perfect for me. No lags, no freeze, quite fast. I am also not a heavy user hence my bat lasts almost the whole day.
I'm on Cool3D AceS v2. Nice rom, fast and stable. Was using cyanogenmod, but was missing sense
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I am currently on IC 1.1.4 with newest noncallrec kernel. Works fine whereas 1.1.4 had some freeze issues, 1.1.3 worked perfect for me. No lags, no freeze, quite fast. I am also not a heavy user hence my bat lasts almost the whole day.
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Would you say that v1.1.3 is as smooth as Rc mix latest release? Just thinking of shifting to IC hence these questions
jackie_jagger said:
Would you say that v1.1.3 is as smooth as Rc mix latest release? Just thinking of shifting to IC hence these questions
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sorry, cannot compare IC with Rc as I never tried Rc. IC (CM7) runs fine, fast & stable (at least 1.1.3) for me so had no need to check any other rom till now.
chrismast said:
sorry, cannot compare IC with Rc as I never tried Rc. IC (CM7) runs fine, fast & stable (at least 1.1.3) for me so had no need to check any other rom till now.
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well as long as it works well - I think its worth a try - downloading it now !
Thanks
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113070
For me, this is currently the best Sense experience on the desire. I am using the cm7 version.
You guys should try Oxygen with Oxygen hboot r2, u'll get hell lot of spaces! I tried going to insertcoin with CM7 hboot r2, end up having 88mb after installing all my apps without installing my games, but with my Oxygen rom, i have 148mb free, with 27 games in it... and it's very very smooth...
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You guys should try Oxygen with Oxygen hboot r2, u'll get hell lot of spaces! I tried going to insertcoin with CM7 hboot r2, end up having 88mb after installing all my apps without installing my games, but with my Oxygen rom, i have 148mb free, with 27 games in it... and it's very very smooth...
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Thats kind of funny. Guess you didn't see my signature when I posted earlier then. I got 40MB on Oxygen