I have just recently flashed 2.3.4 to my Epic 4G from 2.1. The first thing I noticed (besides how much prettier everything was) was that if I were to click on a word I had already typed into the messaging app--i.e. to correct a typo-- it would automatically jump to the end of that word. This is massively frustrating. I have now flashed to RandomROM Thunderhawk 1.1, and the messaging app still has that feature, as does every messaging app alternative I use: Handcent, GO SMS Pro, etc.
What I want is for it to not behave this way. I want the cursor to stay exactly where I press. I looked around in the general settings and in the forums and haven't found anything. Any ideas, anyone?
No responses? This is very uncharacteristic from what I've seen on XDA. Does anyone have any ideas? At this point I've just quartered my typing speed, so that I make sure I make absolutely no mistakes-- which has made me notice almost every mistake is the physical keyboard not actually picking up a key press, an interesting bit of information on its own-- but I would really like some help, if anyone knows how.
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I'm going to start this off by saying that I'm using Cyanogen Mod 6 and I've wiped between every nightly and before installing RC2.
The AOSP messenger that comes with Cyanogen is great. In fact, it's nearly perfect and that's why I'm going to the bother of making this thread. With every release of CM6 for the Evo, I have been unable to send messages longer than 160 characters. It seems that GSM networks can take large messages and split them up before sending them to the recipient. However, the Evo runs on Sprint's CDMA network. CDMA networks unfortunately don't split messages up well. The stock HTC Sense messenger app sidesteps this problem by manually splitting the messages before sending them out. Unfortunately, cyanogen's messenger doesn't have an option for message splitting.
I know this is a small thing since most text messages aren't very large, but it is incredibly annoying. Even worse, if I accidentally try to send one, I am unable to send anymore messages until I get an error messages a few minutes later. Strangely, this problem doesn't seem to affect everyone. In fact, it seems to be dependent on location. On vacation, I was able to send a large message, but I can't when I'm at home.
Can anyone else running CM6 test this to see how it works for you? I know I could switch to Handcent SMS since they have an option to split messages, but I love the look and feel of the AOSP messenger.
I'm having the exact same issue. I'm thinking about getting away from CM6. Too many weird bugs, like the voice mail.
Its a problem with cm6. I use handcent. You can set it in options to split texts unlike the stock in cm6. I thought something was wrong with the rom with freezing or my reception. Its not. Its the SMS program. I also made handcent look like the stock SMS. Instead of the bubbles. No more worring about freezing after I go over. Don't know why there isn't a setting for this in stock or somewhere on phone. Since most if not all the other SMS do this on their own or has a setting for it. Lame...
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You can change alot in handcent. Instead of bubbles can do the threaded style like stock. Change color on everything to match stock. Just wish put a little more space between the messages.. other than that looks the same except the top part where all the messages from everyone you received or sent to is different than stock and can't change. Play around with it. I was exactly like you. Love stock. Even switched to fresh new rom and was on there for few days. Wentbon cm6 topic and someone suggested hamdcent and change the options to look stock. Gave it a try. Not exactly like stock but close and don't worry about freezes..
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martyzidek said:
You can change alot in handcent. Instead of bubbles can do the threaded style like stock. Change color on everything to match stock. Just wish put a little more space between the messages.. other than that looks the same except the top part where all the messages from everyone you received or sent to is different than stock and can't change. Play around with it. I was exactly like you. Love stock. Even switched to fresh new rom and was on there for few days. Wentbon cm6 topic and someone suggested hamdcent and change the options to look stock. Gave it a try. Not exactly like stock but close and don't worry about freezes..
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Thanks, I will try Handcent now.
Uhg. This has been addressed a million times. It is *not* a bug in CM6. The stock AOSP messenger app *does not split messages* The stock HTC messages does. Handcent does. This is like saying it's a bug that Twiteur doesn't split your tweets up automatically.
I wish they'd add this functionality, sure, but it's NOT a bug.
My advice is to either use a 3rd party app (I don't like any of them, personally,) go back to using a Sense based ROM or to just simply use e-mail if you can't be brief in your SMS messages. Remember, the first S stands for *SHORT*
Just saying.
Cyanogen did NOT like make the messaging app. People keep trying to blame Cyanogen for this and that is incorrect.
Its the stock messaging app for Android. This is not a bug!
I understand some peoples frustration with this but stop blaming cyanogen for this! If you want to blame someone then blame Sprint for using CDMA.
I don't like the fact that the STOCK email app doesn't do exchange HTML email! Do I blame Cyanogen? NO!
I would have to buy Touchdown from the market to have HTML email. Maybe one day CyanogenMod might add it who knows but it is what it is.
Download Handcent or whatever from the market or load another ROM geez!
Having said that there are MANY users myself included that send 160+ txt messages just fine with Cyanogen, myself included. Which would lead me to believe its something not related to the stock messaging app.
MrDSL, I'm using handcent and after the helpful post from other users explaining what was going on, I have corrected the issue. You must admit, that Cyanogen doesn't handle everything perfect. I've flashed Fresh and the rooted Stock and I never had the same issues I've had with Cyanogen, such as the voice mail and the text message limit. So before you think everyone is attacking your bible of a rom, you should take a step back and breathe.
I've read a lot of your post in the past and you are a very helpful person here to everyone, but you shouldn't get so defensive.
Landmine: Fresh and rooted stock are both Sense based roms. CM is an AOSP based rom. The AOSP messaging app does not auto-split sms messages. Cyanogen didn't write the app. As said before, it's not a bug.
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Again, I'm not saying it is a bug with Cyanogen, but stating that you must be able to understand where the idea is coming from when people are using Sense based roms and having issues with Cyanogen.
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MrDSL, I'm using handcent and after the helpful post from other users explaining what was going on, I have corrected the issue. You must admit, that Cyanogen doesn't handle everything perfect. I've flashed Fresh and the rooted Stock and I never had the same issues I've had with Cyanogen, such as the voice mail and the text message limit. So before you think everyone is attacking your bible of a rom, you should take a step back and breathe.
I've read a lot of your post in the past and you are a very helpful person here to everyone, but you shouldn't get so defensive.
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This topic is solely about txt messages over 160..Thats all I have responded to. Does cyanogenmod have problems? Well of course it does I never implied it didn't.
What I am correcting is this is not a bug or a fault of the ROM. Nothing more nothing less.
The only reason this doesn't happen in sense ROM's is because HTC has their own messaging app that seperates them. So using Handcent with cyanogen is no different thats all.
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Again, I'm not saying it is a bug with Cyanogen, but stating that you must be able to understand where the idea is coming from when people are using Sense based roms and having issues with Cyanogen.
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We do and its exactly why we are trying to inform people of the correct information. We may be a bit harsh sometimes I'll give you that
I can't stand the "go send a email" comments. Depending on the words and the size of the words its easy to pass the 160 mark in a text and not really say that much. Unless you do cuz, u, etc.. I like to fully spell words out.. except definitely for some really reason I do def... some people don't really have much to say and just text. While texting you think of more to say or something pops up and keep texting than you would otherwise on the phone. Or its just me everyone is different.
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I can't stand the "go send a email" comments. Depending on the words and the size of the words its easy to pass the 160 mark in a text and not really say that much. Unless you do cuz, u, etc.. I like to fully spell words out.. except definitely for some really reason I do def... some people don't really have much to say and just text. While texting you think of more to say or something pops up and keep texting than you would otherwise on the phone. Or its just me everyone is different.
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I agree ^^
So I just upgraded to CM7 a few days ago and re-added Swype. I noticed it makes a LOT more mistakes when I'm trying to swype words in than it did when I was running Virtuous. Putting the slider to the right for more error room only makes the word pop-up box come up much more frequently, it doesn't actually help with the problem I feel like I'm having. Before it would pick up every word I wanted seamlessly, now I could try to type in "prove" and get "pride" over and over until I move my finger slow and exact, I even had it use "I" instead of "you" once.
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So I just upgraded to CM7 a few days ago and re-added Swype. I noticed it makes a LOT more mistakes when I'm trying to swype words in than it did when I was running Virtuous. Putting the slider to the right for more error room only makes the word pop-up box come up much more frequently, it doesn't actually help with the problem I feel like I'm having. Before it would pick up every word I wanted seamlessly, now I could try to type in "prove" and get "pride" over and over until I move my finger slow and exact, I even had it use "I" instead of "you" once.
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im not quiet sure but i think there was something said about the original swype that came with the G2 not playing nice with CM7, a couple people are using the newest beta version and i guess its been better for them
Anyone? It seems no one will ever comment on the posts I make at their forums? I am testing cyanogen 7.1 out for a bit.
Some background info. Doubled wiped everything except sdcard. downloaded a fresh cyanogen 7.1 and flashed it. I have the GPS fix, and the gapps thing flashed with tiamat 4.0.8
So can someone tell me how to either fix this or why it does this?
This is a huge dealbreaker.. It compresses whatever photo i try to attach and it losses quality of the picture... I like the stock android and having to use handcent to send my mms seems like a *WTF* should i do this moment...
Apps like Handcent and Go SMS are better than the stock messaging app anyway. Why would you be willing to throw away the entire ROM over the messaging app when you can use more powerful messaging apps that don't compress the image AND have more customization options?
I've used stock CM, Handcent and Go SMS. By far my favorite one is Go SMS. Way better than the one that comes with CM.
I have used them both. I dislike them. Its just the feel. And the popups I just dislike the whole thing even after i messed with the settings to get rid of what i dont like. The options arent there and i do dislike them.. Also it wont send multiple split messages it freezes my ability top send messages and i need to reboot my phone....
And the Messaging app isn't the only issue.
Btw not my first or second time using CM either..
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I have used them both. I dislike them. Its just the feel. And the popups I just dislike the whole thing even after i messed with the settings to get rid of what i dont like. The options arent there and i do dislike them..
And the Messaging app isn't the only issue.
Btw not my first or second time using CM either..
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Huh? I don't get any pop ups whatsoever on mine. Not quite sure what you mean. And what options are you looking for? Out of all the ROMs I've tried CMseems to have the most flexibility and most customization options. What exactly are you looking for in a ROM? Handcent and Go SMS also provide more flexibility and customization options than the stock messaging app. Let me know what you're looking for and maybe I can point you toward a ROM that fits.
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Huh? I don't get any pop ups whatsoever on mine. Not quite sure what you mean. And what options are you looking for? Out of all the ROMs I've tried CMseems to have the most flexibility and most customization options. What exactly are you looking for in a ROM? Handcent and Go SMS also provide more flexibility and customization options than the stock messaging app. Let me know what you're looking for and maybe I can point you toward a ROM that fits.
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Its not that I'm looking for felxibility i just want to get my mms to stop sending at low resolutions.
It may be the user agent but every one of them makes me receive a pic at 8XX by ^XX resolutions..
I just want the stock one to have correct mms. And preferably a mms with a user agent for my phone or a equivalent phone. I have been searching for days and no one seems to post a fix. All the fixes seem to be for tmo for what i can find :/
Well I understand that you want your stock messaging app to work properly. However, I don't know a means to directly resolve the problem. Test with Handcent/Chomp SMS/Go SMS, reflash your ROM/kernel, update your radio, wimax, nv, etc., and if worse comes to worse....completely unroot your phone back to bone stock. Seems ridiculous that something that drastic is needed to fix your issue. But I did that as a last resort for my phone and it fixed my 2 month long SMS/MMS issue that I had been having.
Here OP try this. Is splits and the limit is big
http://db.tt/eOzGdVB2
Work out for you?
Is it just me, or does entering text (say, on forums) totally suck in the ICS browser? This is my first Android device so I can't speak of earlier versions, but its painfully bad here. Not only is it extremely laggy, even in portrait mode, but if you try to move the cursor through large blocks of text, it often jumps around, disappears, and generally refuses to cooperate. Earlier I resorted to copying my entire message into an email just so I could correct a single word, because the cursor absolutely refused to let me select anywhere near it. I've tried a variety of browsers and keyboards and none of them really solve this at all.
I understand there's software like Tapatalk to alleviate this, but that's not he point. Not every forum has Tapatalk support, and it doesn't really solve the issue of text entry in the browser anyway.
Anyone running 4.0.4 want to chime in and let us know if these issues have been addressed since 4.0.3? Thanks...
Not just you, but I don't know if we're some of the few or the many...
I'm stock (rooted) 4.0.2 CDMA and I hoped it had just been a problem with the 3rd-party keyboard I was using. Seemed to get a little better with the stock keyboard, but not nearly better enough. I'm also hoping this is fixed in the 4.0.4 update.
Text entry all over the place is horrible. I had to turn off spelling correction or else I'd get massive stutters in portrait mode in the Messaging and Gmail app.
This disappointed me cause it takes away the red squiggly under misspelled words that I was looking forward to.
But specifically talking about the browser, I too notice large amount of lag and stuttering. Maybe even moreso than my 2 year old Nexus One. I also find the little blue anchor used to move the cursor WAY too small, especially for such a large screen. This combination results in an awful time searching using the browser. Stock, 4.0.1. btw. Pretty sad that a phone like this has such fundamental flaws (small but still important). Here's to hoping 4.0.4 fixes this!
I can't tell how it was on 4.0.2 or 3 but I'm on 4.0.4 now and text entry is great! I just tested it right now to see how it was and had no problems. Try Opera mobile to see if it alleviates your woes.
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Flashed 4.0.4 earlier, seems exactly the same. Actually the whole rom performs about the same to me as a 4.0.3 ROM with some performance tweaks. But I didn't play with it much. I did test the text entry in the browser and found no improvement over 4.0.3.
I tried multiple browsers including Opera. Honestly opera is so laggy and jerky to scroll that I didn't even make it to my forum to test text entry before I uninstalled it. I would be miserable replacing the ics browser with that, even despite the text entry problems.
Firefox and nighlty don't exhibit the same problems as the stock browser, but have their own set of quirks and bugs that make text entry equally stupid. Webkit browsers like Dolphin and ICS Browser+ also behave exactly the same as the stock browser.
I also tried a different keyboard to try to alleviate the lag. It helped but not enough to make me use it full time.
tl;dr stock has some serious issues, and so far 3rd party stuff is worse (in my opinion).
I don't understand why the browser seems to think that we don't need predictive text when replying to posts in the XDA forums. I know there's Tapatalk, but I like the browser.
It was my understanding that auto correct was added back in the browser in 4.0.3, no? Not sure about the jump-around bug though, google really needs to fix that.
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It was my understanding that auto correct was added back in the browser in 4.0.3, no? Not sure about the jump-around bug though, google really needs to fix that.
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It absolutely was fixed, but in doing so the keyboard became extremely laggy. :/
Edit: By the way, I forgot to mention another bug with text entry in the browser. When you're zoomed in and typing, the zoom doesn't follow the cursor correctly. You will often start typing off screen before it "catches up" and jumps to the next line.
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It absolutely was fixed, but in doing so the keyboard became extremely laggy. :/
Edit: By the way, I forgot to mention another bug with text entry in the browser. When you're zoomed in and typing, the zoom doesn't follow the cursor correctly. You will often start typing off screen before it "catches up" and jumps to the next line.
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Preaching to the choir...
Terminators run on Android
David Horn said:
I don't understand why the browser seems to think that we don't need predictive text when replying to posts in the XDA forums. I know there's Tapatalk, but I like the browser.
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I have predictive text.
not encountering these issues on any of the forums i frequent.
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not encountering these issues on any of the forums i frequent.
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The lag is present pretty much anywhere on 4.0.3's browser. There's not much lag in 4.0.2, but there's also no predictive text/spell check in most (read:not ALL) forms on sites.
The cursor bug is only present in large blocks of text.
I've had these issues on every android device be ever had. It just sucks a web text entry boxes.
Just wanted to throw this out there. All of these problems are non-existant on the new Chrome Beta. Its the first browser I like enough to take me away from the stock Browser
But I really like the stock browser's icon. Nothing Nova couldn't solve!
So I'm not sure how to go about describing this issue, so I'll just take a stab at it by saying that the android keyboard will not ever autocorrect "youre" to "you're". Instead it would rather correct it to "your". Yes this bothers me a lot because now I have to manually spell out that word whenever I use it. Is there some setting in the android keyboard that I'm missing that makes it understand the difference between your and you're? Some default setting perhaps? I've already cleared out my personal dictionaries for this as well as attempted to add "youre" manually to the personal dictionaries but go figure, the phone won't let that happen. The other reason I'm using the android keyboard is because ever since jellybean came out, the default lg keyboard in the phone seems to have become very slow. And by that I mean I can type faster than the key pop ups have time to pop up. Any help with this would be greatly appreciated!
Since you've done the only things I could think about, I'm sorry I can't be more helpful. My only recommendation would be trying a different keyboard, I've used Swiftkey for years and really enjoy it! You can try a free trial (1month). Otherwise just try some other free ones?