Is it just me, or does entering text (say, on forums) totally suck in the ICS browser? This is my first Android device so I can't speak of earlier versions, but its painfully bad here. Not only is it extremely laggy, even in portrait mode, but if you try to move the cursor through large blocks of text, it often jumps around, disappears, and generally refuses to cooperate. Earlier I resorted to copying my entire message into an email just so I could correct a single word, because the cursor absolutely refused to let me select anywhere near it. I've tried a variety of browsers and keyboards and none of them really solve this at all.
I understand there's software like Tapatalk to alleviate this, but that's not he point. Not every forum has Tapatalk support, and it doesn't really solve the issue of text entry in the browser anyway.
Anyone running 4.0.4 want to chime in and let us know if these issues have been addressed since 4.0.3? Thanks...
Not just you, but I don't know if we're some of the few or the many...
I'm stock (rooted) 4.0.2 CDMA and I hoped it had just been a problem with the 3rd-party keyboard I was using. Seemed to get a little better with the stock keyboard, but not nearly better enough. I'm also hoping this is fixed in the 4.0.4 update.
Text entry all over the place is horrible. I had to turn off spelling correction or else I'd get massive stutters in portrait mode in the Messaging and Gmail app.
This disappointed me cause it takes away the red squiggly under misspelled words that I was looking forward to.
But specifically talking about the browser, I too notice large amount of lag and stuttering. Maybe even moreso than my 2 year old Nexus One. I also find the little blue anchor used to move the cursor WAY too small, especially for such a large screen. This combination results in an awful time searching using the browser. Stock, 4.0.1. btw. Pretty sad that a phone like this has such fundamental flaws (small but still important). Here's to hoping 4.0.4 fixes this!
I can't tell how it was on 4.0.2 or 3 but I'm on 4.0.4 now and text entry is great! I just tested it right now to see how it was and had no problems. Try Opera mobile to see if it alleviates your woes.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Flashed 4.0.4 earlier, seems exactly the same. Actually the whole rom performs about the same to me as a 4.0.3 ROM with some performance tweaks. But I didn't play with it much. I did test the text entry in the browser and found no improvement over 4.0.3.
I tried multiple browsers including Opera. Honestly opera is so laggy and jerky to scroll that I didn't even make it to my forum to test text entry before I uninstalled it. I would be miserable replacing the ics browser with that, even despite the text entry problems.
Firefox and nighlty don't exhibit the same problems as the stock browser, but have their own set of quirks and bugs that make text entry equally stupid. Webkit browsers like Dolphin and ICS Browser+ also behave exactly the same as the stock browser.
I also tried a different keyboard to try to alleviate the lag. It helped but not enough to make me use it full time.
tl;dr stock has some serious issues, and so far 3rd party stuff is worse (in my opinion).
I don't understand why the browser seems to think that we don't need predictive text when replying to posts in the XDA forums. I know there's Tapatalk, but I like the browser.
It was my understanding that auto correct was added back in the browser in 4.0.3, no? Not sure about the jump-around bug though, google really needs to fix that.
RogerPodacter said:
It was my understanding that auto correct was added back in the browser in 4.0.3, no? Not sure about the jump-around bug though, google really needs to fix that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It absolutely was fixed, but in doing so the keyboard became extremely laggy. :/
Edit: By the way, I forgot to mention another bug with text entry in the browser. When you're zoomed in and typing, the zoom doesn't follow the cursor correctly. You will often start typing off screen before it "catches up" and jumps to the next line.
Stadsport said:
It absolutely was fixed, but in doing so the keyboard became extremely laggy. :/
Edit: By the way, I forgot to mention another bug with text entry in the browser. When you're zoomed in and typing, the zoom doesn't follow the cursor correctly. You will often start typing off screen before it "catches up" and jumps to the next line.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Preaching to the choir...
Terminators run on Android
David Horn said:
I don't understand why the browser seems to think that we don't need predictive text when replying to posts in the XDA forums. I know there's Tapatalk, but I like the browser.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have predictive text.
not encountering these issues on any of the forums i frequent.
nhizzat said:
not encountering these issues on any of the forums i frequent.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The lag is present pretty much anywhere on 4.0.3's browser. There's not much lag in 4.0.2, but there's also no predictive text/spell check in most (read:not ALL) forms on sites.
The cursor bug is only present in large blocks of text.
I've had these issues on every android device be ever had. It just sucks a web text entry boxes.
Just wanted to throw this out there. All of these problems are non-existant on the new Chrome Beta. Its the first browser I like enough to take me away from the stock Browser
But I really like the stock browser's icon. Nothing Nova couldn't solve!
Related
My keyboard sometimes lags bad. it also does auto correction and mistypes a lot when lagging. Anybody else and solutions?
The only time my keyboard lags is if I'm using Google Voice and while I'm typing a new GV text comes in, other than that I haven't had an issue.
My keyboard lags terribly, especially in landscape on gmail where its just about unuseable.
I'm having a lot of difficulty "getting" this phone. £500, buggy, laggy with absolutely awful battery life and ring/message alert volumes so low you have to have the unit next tobyou not to miss calls etc. I'm a big fan of google and android but after a week of ownership this phone is an epic fail. The stock browser is a joke (useless text formatting, no permanent desktop string). All in all a terrible handset by modern standards!
Does it only happen when you type much text or do you have many custom words in your dictionary?
Then it might be this issue:
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22432
Yep, the above link describes what I'm getting regards keyboard lag perfectly.
I don't have any custom words in my dictionary, but as I type emails the text input bogs down in the exact way outlined.
Doesn't solve the bad stock browser etc and above all pointless battery life. If I'm away with work and forget the charger this thing is dead within 20hrs even if its not used!!
ukxoomer said:
no permanent desktop string
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm still waiting for my Nexus here in Germany, but since it works in the Virtual Machine it should work on the Nexus too.
1) open the browser
2) type about:debug in the address bar and load it
3) open the browser settings and click on the new unlocked "debug" section
4) click on "UAString" and choose "desktop"
ukxoomer said:
Yep, the above link describes what I'm getting regards keyboard lag perfectly.
I don't have any custom words in my dictionary, but as I type emails the text input bogs down in the exact way outlined.
Doesn't solve the bad stock browser etc and above all pointless battery life. If I'm away with work and forget the charger this thing is dead within 20hrs even if its not used!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've had excellent battery life so far and I haven't broke in my battery yet. I have data sync on too. And android browser is a big improvement from gingerbread. Keyboard lag is my only major issue.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Sadly about:debug no longer works in the new stock ICS browser.
It's not a good browser, but it is very fast. Just get used to always using mobile site pages or endlessly pressing Menu, and ticking the request destop site button.
Honestly not good enough for the 'premium android device.'
I've noticed that after the first few words while typing in ANY application, the keyboard for Nexus starts to lag behind the actual texting, you can feel it clearly half way through the first time, and by the 3rd line, I can type in 3 words before it registers on screen.... this is pretty problematic considering I'm still new to typing so I'm not typing that fast.
I actually like the spacing for this new keyboard, although I hate how I don't have commas, apostrophe's and question marks as a hold option on the first screen, if I wanted a keyboard that I had to press a key to access punctuation, I would've gotten an Iphone
xupru said:
.... although I hate how I don't have commas, apostrophe's and question marks as a hold option on the first screen, if I wanted a keyboard that I had to press a key to access punctuation, I would've gotten an Iphone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
huh? if i long hold on the period, i get those punctuation options - no need to press the ?123 key...
I sometimes have slight lag, usually a few letters behind. Its really annoying.
Same issues here...tried many roms with all wipes/reset...different keyboards...turning off haptic/sound/auto complete...flashing kernels...
I'm coming from HTC phones most recently the EVO3d and I gotta say Ive never experienced any keyboard lags ever...EVERYTHING was smooth as silk even with the heavy sense UI and bloated with apps...the HTCEVO3d ran flawlessly %99 of the time...
I switched to the s2 mainly because of the size and samsungs gorgeous displays but at the moment I am regretting it...this s2 is suppose to be one of the best phones in the world...I am severely disapointed so far though I am convinced this thing will fly once set up properly...
Im just ripping my last hairs out at the moment...I feel like Ive tried everything...right now I am in love with my MIUI rom setup and really want to stay but it is useless to me if I cant whip off any emails or texts without the keyboard stuttering...ANyone have ANY more ideas?
Silent8Strike said:
I sometimes have slight lag, usually a few letters behind. Its really annoying.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have frequent short lags also. It'll hang on some letter for a short time.
I've had the same problem with the old stock keyboard on Gingerbread (sgs2) as well.
Galaxy Nexus->TapaTalk
I never have any keyboard lag in any application.. And I never have.. ever :/
Known issue where it lags in landscape - fixed in 4.0.3.
in which app does it lag? i tried browser, messaging, gtalk and google search and had zero lag.
i do remember though that when i was running stock, i'd get a slight lag in the browser when typing in the web address.
4.0.3 bigxie + franco seems to be absolutely lag-free re the keyboard, so give it a try maybe?
omersak said:
in which app does it lag? i tried browser, messaging, gtalk and google search and had zero lag.
i do remember though that when i was running stock, i'd get a slight lag in the browser when typing in the web address.
4.0.3 bigxie + franco seems to be absolutely lag-free re the keyboard, so give it a try maybe?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is just 4.0.3 in general, not just that rom so any will work!
I have the issue in both portrait and landscape. Seems like if the app has a lot of text in it, it lags more. Search is fine for me, but gtalk, gplus, email etc lag to hell. Right now i have slight lag. I hate it because I'm also new to a virtual keyboard. Turnig off autocorrect doesnt help either. Apparently autocorrect just shut off here for no reason.
So 4.0.3 fixes this?
Don't turn off auto-correct, turn off spell checking (different feature).
Hi,
Did you ever find out what was causing this issue?
I've got the same lag issue on my new tablet.
Thanks!
Turn off gesture typing trail. It takes some time to get used to it, but it is definitely faster.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
This is my first non-HtC phone and am quite disappointed and frustrated at the lack of pinch to zoom as well as text rewrapping with the default browser on my GSM Galixy Nexus. I tried other browsers(Chrome, Dolphin HD and Opera)but all with mixed results. Dolphin didn't zoom at all, Crhome did but doesn't rewrap and Opera did both but only on certain sites. What's the deal here? Are HtC phones the only ones on the planet that are capable of performing this no-brainer feature on mobile web browsing, or is there a browser or custom rom that anybody can suggest to me, that will do this for me. Having to squint to read text is no fun and quite headache inducing, and text not fitting the screen properly, all but negates the point of having a large screen if I'm constantly having to zoom left and right to read it all. Thanks ahead of time for anyone willing and able to help remedy this maddening issue.
The text will reflow, you just have to double tap the text after you pinch. Its not like htc that doed it automatically.
RogerPodacter said:
The text will reflow, you just have to double tap the text after you pinch. Its not like htc that doed it automatically.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can confirm this and thankfully it isn't like the HTC way, it is optional and I love it
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
issue pretty much solved
Well thankfully after going through a stock 4.0.1 rom to a custom 4.0.2 to now a 4.0.3 rom I finally have the more consistent pinch to zoom capability with the browser. It doesn't rewrap quite as well but at least it does it. I'm curious as to why you and other prefer it not to work like HTC does it? What's the downside to having it rewrap automatically? I'm fine with double tapping to do it too just as long as it does it. But if you can skip that step altogether, why not?
happyhd2owner said:
Well thankfully after going through a stock 4.0.1 rom to a custom 4.0.2 to now a 4.0.3 rom I finally have the more consistent pinch to zoom capability with the browser. It doesn't rewrap quite as well but at least it does it. I'm curious as to why you and other prefer it not to work like HTC does it? What's the downside to having it rewrap automatically? I'm fine with double tapping to do it too just as long as it does it. But if you can skip that step altogether, why not?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just like options haha
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
happyhd2owner said:
What's the downside to having it rewrap automatically? I'm fine with double tapping to do it too just as long as it does it. But if you can skip that step altogether, why not?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I hate this automatic text wrapping feature. The only time I really use pinch to zoom is when I want to fokus on something "small" and hard to hit like a link (I use double tap to zoom in on a paragraph for reading. I find that much more convenient). When the text automatically rewraps after zooming I almost all the time lose my original zoom target. It's so annoying that I was glad to see that Google only rewrap text on demand.
But I think many like the automatic text rewrap. All I can say is that I'm not one of them.
Just fyi the galaxy nexus works the same as my nexus one. Stock android browser has always functioned like this, its not new. Htc always changed it on their devices.
Well, I've since found a rom where the browser does a little better with the zooming in and rewrapping, so I can finally put that behind me. I guess the tid bit that you mentioned about the stock browser acting that way shouldn't have been too big of a surprise to me. When I had the HD2 with Windows 6.5, I was so excited at the ability to port Android roms to it, so I put one on there based off of a Nexus One rom. The browser acted just as you said. Only roms meant for HTc phones and of course genuine HTC sense roms all acted the way I'm used to. I guess I was just so flabbergasted and frustrated that automatic text rewrapping was either not as in demand by other users I would have imagined, or that HTC had some how weren't allowing others to tweak the browser in that way. Double tapping is a fine and fair compromise though.
gokpog said:
I hate this automatic text wrapping feature. The only time I really use pinch to zoom is when I want to fokus on something "small" and hard to hit like a link (I use double tap to zoom in on a paragraph for reading. I find that much more convenient). When the text automatically rewraps after zooming I almost all the time lose my original zoom target. It's so annoying that I was glad to see that Google only rewrap text on demand.
But I think many like the automatic text rewrap. All I can say is that I'm not one of them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You might try giving Chrome Beta a try. In the default ICS browser, double tapping pretty much just zooms you in by a random/arbitrary amount. Chrome Beta acts a little more like the iPhone in that when you double tap on an element (like a paragraph or picture) it zooms to fit that element on screen. Works perfectly IMO.
I've used just about every browser but have been pretty happy with the stock Android browser since ICS until now.
I've noticed since I've upgraded to JB official version via ota that just touching the screen and scrolling starts zooming. This doesn't always happen and is hard to intentionally replicate because it seems to happen more on some sites than others but it is becoming increasingly annoying.
I like just beinc able to double tap to zoom but now it seems to zoom at random with just one press.
The other small improvements to the factory browser are pretty nice but I'm not sure what's going on here.
I Googled this issue and even tried to look up specific JB changes pertaining to the stock Android browser but haven't seen anything about single touch zoom or rather random zoom.
Any thoughts (besides just download xyz browser)?
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
Your touching the left or right side of the screen, slide up is zoom in, slide down is zoom out....was trippin me out to until I figured out where to touch. Allows for one finger zoom and works in dolphin as well, prolly other browsers but haven't tested any yet.
epic4GEE said:
Your touching the left or right side of the screen, slide up is zoom in, slide down is zoom out....was trippin me out to until I figured out where to touch. Allows for one finger zoom and works in dolphin as well, prolly other browsers but haven't tested any yet.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Excellent that seems to be correct. Thank you. It was driving me crazy.
Sent from my SPH-L710 using Tapatalk 2
Does anyone know how to disable this? I HATE IT!
^ this..
Bump. I hate this as well. It's redundant when we already have a gesture for zooming: pinching. And we can't afford to waste any more screen real estate on our phones.
Ditto
hope there's an option soon to disable. hate going to stock email app, opening an email, wanting to scroll through fast to read but instead zoom that thing large enough for my great grandmother to read. And it always seems easier for me to zoom in rather than zoom out. hahaha
Too annoying!
Hard to believe there is no option to disable this obnoxious annoyance. I'm fairly new to Android but if this was my old winmo I'd scour the registry and surely locate an entry to tweak.
Is there somewhere similar on the Android filesystem or through the terminal I could begin to look for a tweak?
koma312 said:
Hard to believe there is no option to disable this obnoxious annoyance. I'm fairly new to Android but if this was my old winmo I'd scour the registry and surely locate an entry to tweak.
Is there somewhere similar on the Android filesystem or through the terminal I could begin to look for a tweak?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think I read in the MOAR thread that it was disabled in MA6.
Android is hard-coded. Samsung are morons.
koma312 said:
Hard to believe there is no option to disable this obnoxious annoyance. I'm fairly new to Android but if this was my old winmo I'd scour the registry and surely locate an entry to tweak.
Is there somewhere similar on the Android filesystem or through the terminal I could begin to look for a tweak?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What I am finding is the Android environment is pretty much all hard-coded. So unless the developer have you a setting where you could flip a switch, you're stuck with it, or you are downloading customs from here.
I actually like the slide zoom feature although as others have stated, at first I thought there was a bug that was causing it to zoom on its own. l suspect, like you I am used to using the slider in Windows at the right edge to scroll down the page of email.
Anyway, I have since gotten used to it and now am not going to perform the update to MA6/MB1 because I depend on it for one handed email.
What is most frustrating is to know they know it is a hard-coded environment and they could have just as easily added a switch to disable the feature (which by the way is undocumented - and Samsung chat support will tell you doesn't exist) rather than to simply disable. it.
SprintGalSII said:
What I am finding is the Android environment is pretty much all hard-coded. So unless the developer have you a setting where you could flip a switch, you're stuck with it, or you are downloading customs from here.
I actually like the slide zoom feature although as others have stated, at first I thought there was a bug that was causing it to zoom on its own. l suspect, like you I am used to using the slider in Windows at the right edge to scroll down the page of email.
Anyway, I have since gotten used to it and now am not going to perform the update to MA6/MB1 because I depend on it for one handed email.
What is most frustrating is to know they know it is a hard-coded environment and they could have just as easily added a switch to disable the feature (which by the way is undocumented - and Samsung chat support will tell you doesn't exist) rather than to simply disable. it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah, so they did disable it. I was going nuts trying to figure out why it no longer worked. I was actually starting to like it too- it was pretty handy for one-handed browsing. They should've just kept it as a settings option.
Hi guys I just bought my Tab S 10.5 (T800) a couple of days ago, however I'm finding some annoyances, that are giving me a headache when using it and are making me think, to return it
1) When i'm scrolling a website or flipboard in my usual way/speed the text/images appears to jump a tinny bit like if it's stuttering, instead of smooth transitions.
2) When the keyboard "launches" it doesn't matter if I turn off the animations or put them at .5 or 1x, when on the browser I'm trying to type something on a search bar there is a white tail before and after the keyboard launch, this tail makes the content on the bottom of the keyboard to appears like a flash. However this doesn't happen when trying to type an url, This is better noticed on a dark background for example go to this site mary-black.net (or whatever site which has an embedded search and uses a dark background) and launch the keyboard trying to type something on the search bar and then hide the keyboard.
The keyboard "white tail" doesn't happen on my sero 7 pro running an AOSP rom, however it has some stuttering while browsing, but I though it was because some kind of underpower, because my S4 running a touchwiz rom it doesn't stutter at all it's like butter on every single scrolling page/app/etc but it has also that "white tail" sometimes but it's so quick and is not my main browsing device, so I was trying to replace my main tablet an ipad 2 (7.1.2) which it browse like a champ exactly as my S4 and is way better than this Tab S
yeah I have tried a lot of browsers, maxthon, chrome, firefox,opera, dolphin, boat, and the less worst is the stock one
Oh and also it seems to not hold webpages on ram, because when I go to a link and then go back, instead of showing me the content right away, it shows a blank page and suddenly the content, however this a problem because if i was on a search or something it brings me to the top of the page again, and also typing something on a search is laggy, the letter don't go with the keystroke.
BTW: I don't use touchwiz launcher, I'm using nova/apex.
I have enabled also Force GPU Rendering and Turn off/on hardware overlays. nothing seems to fix it.
Also have found that the performance is not consistent at all, sometimes the apps load very fast, browse very fast and it's a pleasure, but sometimes it lags, yeah not like a minute or so, but the overall experience using it, is not something I was expecting, I was expecting at least the same behavior of my S4 and S2 and way better than my old ipad 2, and unfortunately none of those are met
Any ideas ?
Thanks.
You need to do a video to prove it, that's how it goes around here.
1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?
kenkiller said:
You need to do a video to prove it, that's how it goes around here.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cool, I have a feeling that you tough I was trolling , well here they are, this one shows the ugly white tale, and it also happens using google keyboard, and any keyboard.
http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I
As you can see that "white tale" is not present when trying to type an url.
Here is one with the stutter very visible.
http://youtu.be/f9DHYdlc4d0
Here is one showing the reloading on going back. which btw it also shows how with only one finger touching the screen it sometimes act as 2 (pinch to zoom) this little problem is very rare but it's not the first time has happen, and you can see the lag on the keyboard before launching also, there is that "white" then the keyboard.
fingers http://youtu.be/axCsmkgCXws
Here is one comparing the scrolling on the same content first the ipad 2 and then the tab S
http://youtu.be/0TYgm43eBxc
The ipad also has a bit stuttering, but not as much as the S, which IMO this should not be happening, the S has way more power/ram than the old ipad 2
I hope yours is not acting like this, could you please provide a video if yours is working at it supposed to be..
pibach said:
1) same here. I is only slight stuttering and only when scrolling intensively, but it is noticeable. I tried all the browsers, but best in this regard is stock browser, followed by chrome browser (which I currently use). Some of the other browsers have even more severe problems regarding scrolling and also impose certain lag registering scroll gesture.
2) I am using TouchPal and not seeing any keyboard "white tail".
3) Webpage caching: yes, it does not keep pages in RAM and requires a reload. Particularly annoying when on a mobile connection. I've not yet come across any browser that does a proper RAM caching of pages. Also the OS seems to grab the RAM. E.g., when you have multiple tabs open and switch between Apps it does reload all the tabs. Ridiculous. At 3GB the Tab S should have plenty of RAM.
Overall the Tab S hardware is capable enough to provide a smooth user experience even with the above issues. But still I am hoping for some fix.
Probably some tweak of the memory management could help? Also investigation of background load. Seemingly there are to many services that do indexing, report back to Google or Samsung, check updates etc. Probably also the Mali-T628 GPU has some premature driver implementation? Or maybe the Samsung color enhancement for AMOLED is the culprit?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah the more you start using the tablet, the more stuttering it appears, and also when trying to open the recent apps, sometimes there is also a lot of lag until everything appear. The problem with this is they are not predictable.
I tried that keyboard and is doing me exactly the same (white tale), I think this is because instead of launching the keyboard and the placeholder at the same time, they are launched a different time, and I have just confirmed this enabling Layout boundaries under developer options. :/
My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.
pibach said:
My 8.4 works exactly as yours. That's how it is.
white tale seems to be some re-rendering issue of the app, not the keyboard.
One might check with Cyanogenmod whether it persists there too. Pretty sure it is some SW issue, HW should be plenty capable.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bet it's software issues, launching the placeholder for the keyboard before and after the keyboard. But to be honest I don't want to install Cyanogen or aosp to this tablet, because that will break sidesync, multi window, s planner and s finder. if I would need to flash those roms to be able to enjoy the hardware then I would go with a boring but trusty ipad or wait to see what is announced on september at the IFA.
- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.
Replacing the launcher has zero effect on anything except launching an app!
There might be some touchwiz related code behind the scenes, but to replace that you need a revised ROM.
ShadowFlare said:
- Similar hardware used on phones with 1080p screen to drive 1600p screen, which is almost twice as many pixels to render. The GPU is working extra hard but should still cope.
- TouchWiz makes this much worse and through past discussions, this is mostly the cause of the lags and stutters. If you use some other popular launcher, lags and stutters would almost be non-existent.
- iOS on iPads and iPhones are smooth because Apple only need to focus on optimising on their own hardware. Android on the other hand has to work on so many combinations of hardware out there, it's much more difficult to make things buttery smooth like iOS.
I see these issues as well on my 8.4, but not enough to get bothered by it, but would welcome any improvement through OTAs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using Nova or Apex, yeah those don't have lag on the major of transitions, but sometimes they stutter just a bit, yeah not a breaking deal. But the stuttering while browsing/reading and the keyboard issue is making me have headaches, and that will not be solved using another launcher.
I understand that point regarding iOS, but trust me, my S4 is running on a touchwiz rom and it doesn't act like this tab S, geez even my old S2 never acted like this.
Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.
pibach said:
Regarding three Samsung bloatware, there are replacements for each of them, if you really need that. I personally think, most of it is just premature and unnecessary. Multi window for example. What do you do with that? I just have GMD gesture control with some user defined gesture to switch between the last apps.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I run excel spreadsheets while browsing for making quotes, compare values and stuff like that, need to compare spreadsheets with word documents, to give you an idea I use 3 monitors for my desktop.
So actually multiwindow is a very usefull "gadget" for me, and that's what got my attention, the 3gb of ram I though well this will handle my workload with out a problem, 10.5" screen good space for multi window, and well the exynos ? I would prefer a snapdragon version, but I don't need LTE on my tablet as always I can theter from my S4, and none local store have one with snapdragon in case I need to return it or something.
And yeah GMD Gestures is a must for a tablet.
I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.
mitchellvii said:
I now own two of these devices, a 10.5 and an 8.4. I use Nova Launcher. Even running stock OTA I have never experienced any scrolling lag or stutter using the stock browser. My only complaints were some keyboard lag which I believe disabling DVFS improved and using a firewall hack to speed up embedded video steaming. Other than that and the typical pageload lag JavaScript causes I have had zero lag or stutter issues with either tablet.
As setup currently both of these tabs are completely smooth.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?
CyberManiaK said:
Wait.... So yours are not showing that white tail or the keyboard placeholder like mine is doing it here http://youtu.be/kfUbyTVjF6I ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK I see your problem. The fade animation is working properly when you select the address bar but not when you select a text box on the actual website. I think this is just the website re rendering as the keyboard closes since you were interacting with it. You only really notice it because the background of your website is dark.
I believe this is a stock browser thing as it does not do this using Dolphin.
mitchellvii said:
No. Mine does a nice fade and drop down animation. What yours is doing should not be happening.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
EDIT: Well this happen on white pages also, "covering" what is on screen. I did that on a dark background because is more apparent. If I enable layout bounds on developer options it shows that the placeholder is triggering before the actual keyboard. Tomorrow i will make a video with the layouts enabled.
And mine is doing it with every browser i have tested.
CyberManiaK said:
Yeah that kinda of fade is what I'm not getting, it only does that fade when i'm typing on the address bar, but when i'm typing on something inside a webpage that trail appears. In what build are you ? Mine is NFB, hope anybody else can confirm if they have it or not and what mods are running.
I did factory reset but didn't solve it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I changed my original post. I think you missed it. Yes I am getting same thing in stock browser. This does not occur using Dolphin. Not a Tab S issue. A stock browser issue. The dark background of your website makes it more noticeable.
Update. Does it in Chrome browser too. If that bothers you try Dolphin browser.
I got the same white tail issue also in chrome browser.
Dolphin doesn't do that, gives a bit better re-rendering. But Dolphin mini also struggles. Weird.
Both are slightly more sluggish in scrolling, that's most important, so I sorted them out.
Also that nonsens gesture implementation (requires to press a button first) did not win me.
There is one thing the stock browser by far does the best of any browser I have tried. Play embedded video clips. Dolphin? You may as well not bother. Expect 10+ second load times. Using a little firewall hack I'm getting almost instant video loads in stock with no buffering lag.
The little white flash when closing the keyboard is a non issue for me, especially when using a website with a white background. Don't even notice it.
maybe try to debloat the ROM and then go into developer options to change the animations to .5 or disable them entire(I disable them in all android devices I own)
Well I don't know what happen, I did some factory reset like 3 in a row, then the first thing I did was, go straight to update chrome to 36.0.1985.131 and now it's working at it should. Yeah with some occasional stutter, mostly when launching an app. But not like was doing it before. The white tale is still there but not as heavy like it was before.