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Hello everyone. I haven't flashed Android to NAND yet but I'd like to try it.
I am sure this question has been asked before but I did try the search and I couldn't find it. Sorry if this has already been asked.
So, for the Kaiser, if I flash Android to NAND (ie: Polymod's most recent) how do you flash back to Windows Mobile?
I'm concerned because USB does not connect properly when Android is running with HaRET ("unrecognized USB device" using XP SP3 couldn't make heads or tails of the drivers in the SDK but then I didn't try installing the whole environment)
So I guess my question is -- even with the device unrecognized, can you still flash it back? If so, how? Is it really simple and easy?
Please let me know and point me in the right direction! Thanks!
aikeru said:
Hello everyone. I haven't flashed Android to NAND yet but I'd like to try it.
I am sure this question has been asked before but I did try the search and I couldn't find it. Sorry if this has already been asked.
So, for the Kaiser, if I flash Android to NAND (ie: Polymod's most recent) how do you flash back to Windows Mobile?
I'm concerned because USB does not connect properly when Android is running with HaRET ("unrecognized USB device" using XP SP3 couldn't make heads or tails of the drivers in the SDK but then I didn't try installing the whole environment)
So I guess my question is -- even with the device unrecognized, can you still flash it back? If so, how? Is it really simple and easy?
Please let me know and point me in the right direction! Thanks!
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I beleive you can always follow the process here.
Your boot loader should not change when flashing so not being able to use the USB while in Android is not going to prevent your returning back to a stock ROM. I have not tested this but I'm pretty sure that you can always get back to your boot loader screen and re-flash from that point. Can someone confirm that this is the appropriate solution?
deekjx said:
I beleive you can always follow the process here.
Your boot loader should not change when flashing so not being able to use the USB while in Android is not going to prevent your returning back to a stock ROM. I have not tested this but I'm pretty sure that you can always get back to your boot loader screen and re-flash from that point. Can someone confirm that this is the appropriate solution?
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Did anyone try this solution?
Since the bootloader is still there all you do if not able to flash via async when in android is flash via bootloader
Moved to general as not ROM Dev.
Thanks for the information, guys!! I will have to try it out over this weekend and see how it goes...
I can confirm that flashing via bootloader works fine, also flashing from SD works as well, in fact I keep a 128MB sd with a WM kaisimg.nbh on it handy just in case I need to flash a good WM rom for some reason.
Is there an Android OS with everything working on the Kaiser?
Dukenukemx said:
Is there an Android OS with everything working on the Kaiser?
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You can see in different post of android rom what works and what doesn't works.
actually, Bluetooth and camera never works for in android 2.x build and some other apps doesn't works
I've been running Android for a few weeks now from this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614382
I've found everything to work with the exception of Bluetooth, video camera (normal camera works fine), and the barcode scanner. Also, my battery life is cut in half, but I have an extended life battery so I get a day or two out of it.
I prefer this method as you can just boot Android at will and can soft reset to go back to WinMo.
Just to let everyone know I did flash WM back just fine since I have HardSPL 3.56 and used the stylus to press the reset + camera button at the same time to get to the tri-color screen.
From there I flashed from USB without any problems.
Thanks again for all the help!
I am having problems reverting back to WM after attempting to install android to NAND. Something happened where the only way I was able to get to the android installer would be if I had the KAISDIAG.nbh file on the SD card so it would get past the tri color hard spl screen . Well as a result, I can't get into boot loader. It shows that screen for a split second, then if I do camera + power and then reset. Then I have to pull the battery. Can someone help me? It seems like it will only go into the Android bootloader, which obviously won't allow it to install a WM rom. SD flashes are my only choice because the usb port is pretty messed up. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
The procedure for flashing WM back using SD card is much the same as flashing the Nand bootloader for Android.
First get a WM rom, copy the RUU_Signed.nbh to SD card, rename it to KAISimg.nbh, pull the battery, replace, press power and hold camera button, this should start the flash process.
Note that the SD card must be formatted FAT32, or it will not find the KAISimg.nbh.
If you prefer to flash a stock rom you will usually have to extract the RUU_Signed.nbh from the installer, just open it in winrar.
the reset in android is not working correctly. The correct way to get into bootloader is to pull the battery, wait a few minutes, rpelace the battery, press power and then press and hold camera button, do not use reset.
zenity said:
The procedure for flashing WM back using SD card is much the same as flashing the Nand bootloader for Android.
First get a WM rom, copy the RUU_Signed.nbh to SD card, rename it to KAISimg.nbh, pull the battery, replace, press power and hold camera button, this should start the flash process.
Note that the SD card must be formatted FAT32, or it will not find the KAISimg.nbh.
If you prefer to flash a stock rom you will usually have to extract the RUU_Signed.nbh from the installer, just open it in winrar.
the reset in android is not working correctly. The correct way to get into bootloader is to pull the battery, wait a few minutes, rpelace the battery, press power and then press and hold camera button, do not use reset.
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Thanks, but unfortunately this still did not work. Have any other suggestions? I think the only way will it even do anything is if I have the KAISDIAG.nbh file on the card. It recognizes that, but then goes straight to linux. IDK what else to do. Could you be a little more clear on the procedure for getting into the bootloader? Thanks.
Ok please follow these steps carefully.
1. Format the SD card, make sure you are formatting it as FAT32, not FAT.
2. Download a Winmo Rom from somewhere handy.
3. Extract the Rom to a handy folder, find the RUU_Signed.nbh file, rename that to KAISimg.nbh
4. Copy the KAISimg.nbh file to the SD card. You should only have one file on the SD card, no folders just the NBH file.
5. pull the battery from the phone, wait at least 5 minutes.
6. Replace the battery. Press Power button, and hold down camera button, until the tri color screen appears.
7. The screen should now change to a white one, and when it's checked the nbh it will ask you to press power key again. do that.
8. Now it should flash the rom, this should take a while, 5-10 minutes, once it's finished you should get a message of success.
9. Now pull the battery again, wait 5 minutes, replace the battery, and power on, you should now boot into Winmo.
Hopefully this should solve your problems, if not then let me know which setp failed and we can work on that stage.
Finally, don't panic, take it slow, it'll all work out
Thanks, but the problem starts at number 6. I am supposed to press the power button, release it, and hold the camera button till it gets to the white screen, right? It's still stuck at the splash screen. I tried holding both and that didn't work either. Anything else I can try? I hope i'm not screwed?
If I put the battery in, boot it up, then push the camera and insert the stylus into the reset hole, it gets to the tricolor screen, then for about 0.5sec it flashes the white screen with a message saying "No image File." I know for sure the .nbh file is there.
I have experienced this before, when I tried to use an SD card that was formatted FAT, when formatting you must make sure it is formatted FAT32, the bootloader cannot read FAT formatted SD cards, even if Winmo and Android can.
I format using a card reader, and in windows it is sometimes easy to overlook the file system type, most SD cards are usually formatted FAT when they are new, and you must change the formatting, or it will just format FAT again.
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I have experienced this before, when I tried to use an SD card that was formatted FAT, when formatting you must make sure it is formatted FAT32, the bootloader cannot read FAT formatted SD cards, even if Winmo and Android can.
I format using a card reader, and in windows it is sometimes easy to overlook the file system type, most SD cards are usually formatted FAT when they are new, and you must change the formatting, or it will just format FAT again.
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Unfortunately, as much as I wish it was, it is not the problem. I'm on a Mac, but booted windows 7 to be make sure it was formatted to FAT 32, which it was. Is there some way I can fix permissions? Every time it runs, I keep getting the error saying that it is in read only mode. I obviously need to get it into writing mode. I don't think the fix permissions option on the installer did anything either.
The eclair build still will not install on my phone. I changed to an earlier .nbh file and now don't need the KAISDIAG.nbh file to get out of the splash screen and into the installer. When I run the install command for NAND, it says it can't mount, "no such file exists", "failed to extract." Keep in mind I haven't even gotten Android installed to NAND, just the installer itself. I can't even go back to WinMo either. It also seems like a permissions error since I believe it said the SD card is read only, but when plugged into my computer I fixed that and now it is read-write, but not on the phone. Please help because I really want to either get this working, or get back to WinMo instead of have this useless phone I currently have. Thanks.
Is there a way to enter the command line from the installer screen?
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The eclair build still will not install on my phone. I changed to an earlier .nbh file and now don't need the KAISDIAG.nbh file to get out of the splash screen and into the installer. When I run the install command for NAND, it says it can't mount, "no such file exists", "failed to extract." Keep in mind I haven't even gotten Android installed to NAND, just the installer itself. I can't even go back to WinMo either. It also seems like a permissions error since I believe it said the SD card is read only, but when plugged into my computer I fixed that and now it is read-write, but not on the phone. Please help because I really want to either get this working, or get back to WinMo instead of have this useless phone I currently have. Thanks.
Is there a way to enter the command line from the installer screen?
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Alright, I'll try and sum up your experiences. Tell us if we're missing anything;
You have the following symptoms
Linux Android-installer works
Tri-color bootloader semi-works
You cannot use the USB
You cannot install polymod's Eclair build
Now, you have mentioned a couple of things you have tried, such as
Replacing the Linux NBH with another version
Fixing permissions on the SD-card
Fixing permissions through the Android-installer
Flashing a WinMO ROM through SD card
You did mention getting other behaviours when you switched to another NBH, such as "KAISDIAG.nbh" not being required.
Now, this is a long shot coming from me, as I have had no troubles with flashing, and the fact that I can use my USB, but since your phone is pretty messed up I guess it can't hurt as a suggestion;
You can flash to other NBH's I take it, as you mentioned you did a downgrade. What I'm a bit curious about is whether you did try to flash to a WinMO rom when you had downgraded to your current NBH.
Also, you said the previous NBH required you to have "KAISDIAG.nbh" on the card to even get working. Did you try and rename a WinMO-ROM's NBH to "KAISDIAG.nbh" and flash that? Might be that the flasher is really constrictive with the file names.
EDIT: Oh, and what about trying to run other Eclair builds? Just to see if you can nail it down to this being a problem of the builds or something more bound to the actual hardware/SPL/NBH's.
Hi, I installed android to my touch but now I'd like to go back to window mobile. I haven't been able to figure out how to flash it back to windows... any help?
Thanks
reflash a winmo build.
I'd love to reflash to a winmo build, but i just don't know how.
search. read the wiki's @ the top.
why go back anyway?
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Long story short. i'm trying android again to see if the newest build has better battery life. the last build couldn't hold a charge long enough to make it worht while as a phone.
The only way i've ever gotten android to get data after being flashed has been to get it working in windows first and then installing android.
i've read and searched for a step by step on how to do this and i just haven't been fruitful.
just download and flash one of the 6.5 builds....there's a very informative guide on how to
The guides that i see want me to establish an active sync connection to flash the device but I have android installed and i cant' establish an active sync connection. I think thats my major hangup. Is there a way to flash it from the memory card?
not that Im aware of.. my have to RUU back to stock and start over.
look here for sprint rom http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Vogue/
That would be just fine too... i still don't know how to do it. When i run the rom update utility it gives me a connection error.
Edit: I realize that i'm being vague. Let me try to fill in the gaps. I am putting my phone into the bootloader mode, hooking it up to my PC via USB and running the Rom update Utility with a custom rom. The phone has been unlocked so it really shouldn't have any trouble..
What am I doing wrong?
moperist said:
The guides that i see want me to establish an active sync connection to flash the device but I have android installed and i cant' establish an active sync connection. I think thats my major hangup. Is there a way to flash it from the memory card?
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Put your phone in Bootloader Mode by pressing the Camera and Power buttons and then the Reset button all at the same time.
Then make sure you have a radio of 3.4x or above... If not Flash back to a new stock Rom and then follow the threads you were just reading.
If you radio is good go and Download one of the ROMS here on this forum.
Happy Flashing!
P.S Please Ask your Questions in the Q and A section of this forum.
moperist said:
That would be just fine too... i still don't know how to do it. When i run the rom update utility it gives me a connection error.
Edit: I realize that i'm being vague. Let me try to fill in the gaps. I am putting my phone into the bootloader mode, hooking it up to my PC via USB and running the Rom update Utility with a custom rom. The phone has been unlocked so it really shouldn't have any trouble..
What am I doing wrong?
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Make sure it says usb at the bottom of the bootloader.
Ok, I found out the problem... i'm retarded.
Thank you for your patience. Sorry to have been a bother and put this in the wrong place.
moperist said:
Ok, I found out the problem... i'm retarded.
Thank you for your patience. Sorry to have been a bother and put this in the wrong place.
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No problem.
Glad you got it figured out!
moperist said:
Ok, I found out the problem... i'm retarded.
Thank you for your patience. Sorry to have been a bother and put this in the wrong place.
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No bother....learning experience.
so what was the problem?
so what was the problem because I'm trying to get from android to win 6.5 and the computer is saying that my xv6900 isn't hooked up even though on bootloader it says usb...any help would be great
How to Flash a Vogue without ActiveSync
How to Flash a Vogue Without ActiveSync
A method so easy my Mother could do it.
Not suggesting there's anything wrong with my mother, just that she's not all that technically oriented.
Here's an easy way to flash your HTC Vogue without using ActiveSync. It would likely be a great method to use if you had many Vogues that all needed to be updated as well. Works great for those not using Windows, as well.
Look around for a Transflash (aka MicroSD) card, one that you can erase, 2GB or less.
Use your Windows machine to make sure it's freshly formatted as FAT32]
Copy the ROM you want to flash to the card.
Rename the file you just copied to VOGUIMG.nbh If you are flashing a different model, you need to be sure you have the right file name for it. I think the pattern is the first 4 letters of the model name with IMG.nbh after it, but if it doesn't work, don't blame me,
Put card in phone.
Enter bootloader mode by holding the CAMERA and POWER buttons, while pressing the RESET button in the little hole in the bottom of the phone. (don't bother to connect it to your computer)
Enjoy a caffinated beverage of your choice, or an alcoholic beverage of your choice, or heck, a nice tall glass of cool water while you wait.
Watch as your phone automagically flashes itself!
Congratulate yourself on a job well done.
This is what I'm going to use from now on for flashing with a Mac or Linux. For those addicted to flashing, you can even take a collection of cards with you. I'm not yet sure if you can have multiple ROMs on one card, and just rename the one you want to flash or not yet, but I'll likely find out soon.
ATTENTION:
Missing any of these will make it NOT WORK:
Card must be normal SD, not SDHC or XDHC. No bigger than 2GB
Card must be formatted with FAT32. They often come formatted FAT16 or plain FAT, and a previously-used card could have just about any format on it -- NTFS. HPFS. HFS+. EXT3 -- Format it right to be sure.
Be sure you have the right name. I've heard that CaSe cOuNtS -- the name above has been cut/pasted from a working reflash card.
There is no #4.
Have fun!
Oh yes, just in case:[Lawyer]You are responsible for your own actions. This information is provided as a public service, and I wave all responsibility for it's correctness or how it is used. If you brick your phone, it's your fault. If your phone explodes, not my problem, but I'd like the remains.[/Lawyer]
Gr1zz said:
How to Flash a Vogue Without ActiveSync
A method so easy my Mother could do it.
Not suggesting there's anything wrong with my mother, just that she's not all that technically oriented.
Here's an easy way to flash your HTC Vogue without using ActiveSync. It would likely be a great method to use if you had many Vogues that all needed to be updated as well. Works great for those not using Windows, as well.
Look around for a Transflash (aka MicroSD) card, one that you can erase, 2GB or less.
Use your Windows machine to make sure it's freshly formatted as FAT32]
Copy the ROM you want to flash to the card.
Rename the file you just copied to VOGUIMG.nbh If you are flashing a different model, you need to be sure you have the right file name for it. I think the pattern is the first 4 letters of the model name with IMG.nbh after it, but if it doesn't work, don't blame me,
Put card in phone.
Enter bootloader mode by holding the CAMERA and POWER buttons, while pressing the RESET button in the little hole in the bottom of the phone. (don't bother to connect it to your computer)
Enjoy a caffinated beverage of your choice, or an alcoholic beverage of your choice, or heck, a nice tall glass of cool water while you wait.
Watch as your phone automagically flashes itself!
Congratulate yourself on a job well done.
This is what I'm going to use from now on for flashing with a Mac or Linux. For those addicted to flashing, you can even take a collection of cards with you. I'm not yet sure if you can have multiple ROMs on one card, and just rename the one you want to flash or not yet, but I'll likely find out soon.
ATTENTION:
Missing any of these will make it NOT WORK:
Card must be normal SD, not SDHC or XDHC. No bigger than 2GB
Card must be formatted with FAT32. They often come formatted FAT16 or plain FAT, and a previously-used card could have just about any format on it -- NTFS. HPFS. HFS+. EXT3 -- Format it right to be sure.
Be sure you have the right name. I've heard that CaSe cOuNtS -- the name above has been cut/pasted from a working reflash card.
There is no #4.
Have fun!
Oh yes, just in case:[Lawyer]You are responsible for your own actions. This information is provided as a public service, and I wave all responsibility for it's correctness or how it is used. If you brick your phone, it's your fault. If your phone explodes, not my problem, but I'd like the remains.[/Lawyer]
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i do as yousay after i put it in bootloade mode it says loading for a split seconde then goes back to bootloader i need help i have android with no data i read that i need to reinstill wm get data working their then re install android i cant get wm back on this phone im going on 3 days trying to flash this yes its unlocked
I've never tried to do anything beyond readily available 3rd party apps. I've never jailbroken anything or rooted. I don't know how to work with ROM's and I've never used command prompts beyond installing difficult software on my desktop. (I'm using Win 7 on my PC) and I have no linux or coding experience. That said, I'm smart, I research things fully b4 I actually DO anything & I follow directions exactly when i do something unfamiliar.
I bought my Desire about 45 days ago thru USCC. Stock it's running 2.1. On Fri using UnREVoked 3.21 I tried to root. It appeared to work. I have the Superuser file at least...
However, when I followed unlockr.com's tutorials for downloading & flashing ROM's it became obvious that something was not right (screens weren't the same, options weren't the same or even close in some cases, & controls, like pushing power to go back after recovery didn't work.) The screen turned black, I had a minor heart attack & then the phone finally rebooted into it's original USCC configuration.
Now, I DID have an option to "install from SD card" but nothing that said "flash from sd card" and I'm assuming -maybe incorrectly- that there's a difference??
After 4 days of searching sites, I know there are too many posts on USCC rooting & Desire for a noob like me to know what to do. I have a mess that I need help to untangle.
Prior to my failed ROM attempt, I had installed save to sd... which I think may have moved everything to my SD card. Since rooting, I tried using Root Explorer to remove facebook, twitter, City ID etc.... EX: I can see bloatware files on my SD card, and the program SAYS it deletes them, but it reboots on exit and there's CityID again!
I can mount the SD card as a disk drive on my PC and look thru the SD card files. (some of which appear 2B duplicates. When I rooted, I installed the Hboot drivers and followed the unrevoked directions exactly. I renamed the recovery file as update and left it as a zip... but there are now two "update.zip" folders on my SD card. They are different sizes and neither contains all of the files of the other; although some of the files in each of the zip's are duplicates.
I don't know what files SHOULD be on my SD card and what is extraneous material. I don't know what I need to install to get to where I'm ultimately trying to go... which is running 2.2, getting rid of these "extra" files and gaining the ability to wifi tether my phone.
I do NOT know if I have S-off or not... and I'm not sure how to tell. AND, I'm not sure if this is the base cause of the other issues or not.
Is there anyone willing to get me thru the vast amount of material & help me to get my Desire running the way it is capable of functioning?
At this point, I'm even willing to switch carriers to get what I want if the issue is USCC's proprietary nature...
Thanks in advance to any1 willing to help out
Bethyk said:
I've never tried to do anything beyond readily available 3rd party apps. I've never jailbroken anything or rooted. I don't know how to work with ROM's and I've never used command prompts beyond installing difficult software on my desktop. (I'm using Win 7 on my PC) and I have no linux or coding experience. That said, I'm smart, I research things fully b4 I actually DO anything & I follow directions exactly when i do something unfamiliar.
I bought my Desire about 45 days ago thru USCC. Stock it's running 2.1. On Fri using UnREVoked 3.21 I tried to root. It appeared to work. I have the Superuser file at least...
However, when I followed unlockr.com's tutorials for downloading & flashing ROM's it became obvious that something was not right (screens weren't the same, options weren't the same or even close in some cases, & controls, like pushing power to go back after recovery didn't work.) The screen turned black, I had a minor heart attack & then the phone finally rebooted into it's original USCC configuration.
Now, I DID have an option to "install from SD card" but nothing that said "flash from sd card" and I'm assuming -maybe incorrectly- that there's a difference??
After 4 days of searching sites, I know there are too many posts on USCC rooting & Desire for a noob like me to know what to do. I have a mess that I need help to untangle.
Prior to my failed ROM attempt, I had installed save to sd... which I think may have moved everything to my SD card. Since rooting, I tried using Root Explorer to remove facebook, twitter, City ID etc.... EX: I can see bloatware files on my SD card, and the program SAYS it deletes them, but it reboots on exit and there's CityID again!
I can mount the SD card as a disk drive on my PC and look thru the SD card files. (some of which appear 2B duplicates. When I rooted, I installed the Hboot drivers and followed the unrevoked directions exactly. I renamed the recovery file as update and left it as a zip... but there are now two "update.zip" folders on my SD card. They are different sizes and neither contains all of the files of the other; although some of the files in each of the zip's are duplicates.
I don't know what files SHOULD be on my SD card and what is extraneous material. I don't know what I need to install to get to where I'm ultimately trying to go... which is running 2.2, getting rid of these "extra" files and gaining the ability to wifi tether my phone.
I do NOT know if I have S-off or not... and I'm not sure how to tell. AND, I'm not sure if this is the base cause of the other issues or not.
Is there anyone willing to get me thru the vast amount of material & help me to get my Desire running the way it is capable of functioning?
At this point, I'm even willing to switch carriers to get what I want if the issue is USCC's proprietary nature...
Thanks in advance to any1 willing to help out
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i cant tell you how to fix it, but what i can say, is if you really borked it, you can take it into a uscc store saying you have no idea what happened. i used to work for uscc until about 2 months ago. until that time, out of the 3 corporate stores i was working in, not one associates knew what rooting was. and none of the "smartphone team" had either. so they would most likely just send you a replacement. good luck
I thought about that... And I really don't even mind paying for it if I need to replae the phone, I will... But I figure at this point, worst case scenario I have aphone I can "play" with and figure out IF I can do any of this stuff successfully. I've discovered in the last year that I sort of have a talent for figuring this stuff out. This is the first time I've ever needed to find help with a problem and I've built several complete systems. I'm hoping there's someone who might be willing to suggest a course of action. If you have any ideas- even if I brick the darned thing- I'm willing to give it a try!
Thanks to anyone brave enough to reply!
Bethyk
Sounds like the second tuturial you were following was trying to root your phone again, but with the older method.
Turn on your phone holding volume down. You will get a white screen with some options in the middle, select recovery (it says at the top of this screen s-off or s-on, yours should say s-on, this is how to find this out.)
When recovery loads it should say clockwork recovery, a custom recovery flashed by unrevoked during the rooting process.
Use this recovery to flash a zip of whatever rom you want. Be sure to wipe data also if changing roms or any problems arise.
I've figured this much out at this point... I did root my phont with unREVoked 3.21. However, I did NOT S-OFF the device. So I'll try what mercianary suggests & let you know how it goes! Thanks a ton!
Bethy
Are you using the mouse button at bottom of phone to select in black and green recovery screen? If you are using power button to select it will give you a blank screen.
Hi guys, I was wondering if you could help me out something a little weird. My phone's LCD is broken but the digitizer works, so I can still sorta use it, but I can't see anything I'm doing. A new incredible is on the way from eBay, so I was hoping to just flash my recoveries from the old phone to the new one and be done with it (is that possible, btw?).
However, since I can't see the screen at all, I was hoping one of you guys would post the exact steps (number of clicks or whatever) to get to the nandroid option and navigation of the menus in the latest clockwork recovery version.
Thanks in advance
sd card
The nandroids are in the sd card you can just take the sd card out and place it in your new incredible or put your sd card in your pc/laptop and put the nandroid backups there and then move them to your new phones sd card.
Thanks for the clarification, but what I guess I meant was that I'd like to do a nandroid backup of the phone right now because I've received texts/calls etc. and still want to see them, so I was hoping you could just post the exact steps to nandroid backup (after getting into HBOOT) so that I can do it "blind."
If you're going the route of restoring nandroids from your old phone onto the new one, be sure to destroy your old phone. Do not sell it or give it away, as both phones will share the same android_ID.
Yeah, since I can't see the screen, there's no real way for me to wipe it; I'm probably just gonna hang on to it for parts; thanks for the heads up
This is for CWM 2.5.1.2
I am not responsible if you mess up your phone. Directions may be different for another version of CWM
Once in recovery press Volume Down 5 times - this will put you over "-backup and restore" menu. Press joystick button to enter it.
Now "Backup" is already selected as a current menu item. Press Joystick button again and backup will start. Took about 6 minutes. I don't have a lot of app/data to backup
Let us know if it worked. Just a thought: if you don't know what version of CWM you have you may still be able to run a remote shell using Android SDK. From there you can try browsing files or smth like that - not sure how to actually find the CWM version this way or if it is even possible.
Ok, trying out the steps now, kinda hard to do it blind
But I appreciate it, and I'll check the SD card to see if the backup is made, thanks!
Also, about remote shell to browse files, I think I'm a bit too inexperienced with the SDK itself to try, but I may look it up if nandroid doesn't work.
Meemat said:
Ok, trying out the steps now, kinda hard to do it blind
But I appreciate it, and I'll check the SD card to see if the backup is made, thanks!
Also, about remote shell to browse files, I think I'm a bit too inexperienced with the SDK itself to try, but I may look it up if nandroid doesn't work.
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If you get to remote shell I don't know how useful it can be for backup/restore purposes unless CWM has some kind of command line interface to run backup (I wouldn't be surprised if it does).
OK, so I tried it a bunch of times, but I suspect that I'm maybe moving the selector before getting to nandroid/backup in the recovery screen, or perhaps it's because I know I'm on at least clockwork recovery 3, and maybe stuff has moved around :/
Also, I looked around for ADB nandroid methods, and it only seems to show ways to restore backups, but not ways to create them :/ Oh well...
EDIT: I later got it to work using the steps mentioned, but I had forgotten that it goes into HBOOT then CWM recovery...editing so people read that it works.
Meemat said:
OK, so I tried it a bunch of times, but I suspect that I'm maybe moving the selector before getting to nandroid/backup in the recovery screen, or perhaps it's because I know I'm on at least clockwork recovery 3, and maybe stuff has moved around :/
Also, I looked around for ADB nandroid methods, and it only seems to show ways to restore backups, but not ways to create them :/ Oh well...
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Well maybe someone else can give instructions for later versions?
About adb: if you have some really important information on your phone it may help you get it off the phone, not necessarily to restore on the new phone but at least to view it. In a nutshell you can retrieve any file from your phone but you may need to mount /system and /data folders manually to access files there. From what I understand a lot of Android applications use standard Android storage which is some kind of database (I think some lite version of SQL). Once you get them off your phone you may be able to open them in other application. You just need to figure out what files you need.
Another option is get this phone fixed (screen replaced) but I am sure you thought about this already.
ClockworkMod. 3.0.0.8 Instructions
Not responsible if you mess your phone more than it already is...
Once in CMR press Volum - 5 times and you will be in Backup and Restore option
Then press the Optical Joystick
That would take you to backup Option
Finally press the Optical Joystick one more time and that will start the backup...
Hope it helps.. after just check your sd card and see if it was created...
Okay you guys, so it actually worked, thanks so much! The trick was that it boots into HBOOT first and not recovery, so I was just missing that. Once I got my replacement, I just did the steps (the same actually, for both versions) and it worked finally.
Again, I really appreciate it you guys!
AT&T SGS3 running AOKP 4.2.2
I dropped my phone and broke the touch screen. It displays, but is unresponsive to touch commands. I'm looking to:
-Back it up on my PC or External Card, and
-Get it back to stock. I paid for the extra warranty so they'll just send me a phone before I even send mine back in, but I at least want to make a reasonable effort to cover up my rooting. I can just imagine them deciding I owe them $600. Basterds.
I have read the related threads, and they gave me some ideas, but I wanted some fresh thoughts. I currently have CWM on it, and I know you normally can't see the external card with CWM, but I haven't had a chance to poke around too much because I'm still at work.
I'll keep you guys updated.
Thanks.
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AT&T SGS3 running AOKP 4.2.2
I dropped my phone and broke the touch screen. It displays, but is unresponsive to touch commands. I'm looking to:
-Back it up on my PC or External Card, and
-Get it back to stock. I paid for the extra warranty so they'll just send me a phone before I even send mine back in, but I at least want to make a reasonable effort to cover up my rooting. I can just imagine them deciding I owe them $600. Basterds.
I have read the related threads, and they gave me some ideas, but I wanted some fresh thoughts. I currently have CWM on it, and I know you normally can't see the external card with CWM, but I haven't had a chance to poke around too much because I'm still at work.
I'll keep you guys updated.
Thanks.
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Even though the phone doesn't respond to touch does the computer recognize it as a storage device when you plug it in? If so you should be able to back up your photos and personal files. You could even do a nandroid in recovery then dump those from internal storage to your PC. However I've never tried restoring a nandroid backup to another phone.
Or if you already had USB debugging active you could likely fetch the files you want using adb through terminal but I couldn't help with that.
Just some of my thoughts
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OK I just did a backup to my external SD card. CWM had a specific option for it, which originally I thought would be the obvious course, but I read on here that CWM didn't normally see external storage for some reason.
I just hope my external card is big enough. It should be.
*EDIT* Error on the data back-up. Probably not enough space. Is there anyway I can check what the issue is? because it would be really easy to buy a bigger SD card.
Also, are there any issues with restoring onto another phone? Would I just have to flash the same ROM onto it before restoring?
Thanks
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Even though the phone doesn't respond to touch does the computer recognize it as a storage device when you plug it in? If so you should be able to back up your photos and personal files. You could even do a nandroid in recovery then dump those from internal storage to your PC. However I've never tried restoring a nandroid backup to another phone.
Or if you already had USB debugging active you could likely fetch the files you want using adb through terminal but I couldn't help with that.
Just some of my thoughts
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I would like to think that I had USB debugging on but I'm not entirely sure. Knowing me it would have been one of the first things I did.
I'm at work and they have a security guard against data transfer via disk. I can't see the actual storage, just the media Icon, or whatever that is. This may just be a result of the security settings here.
I'll have to check all this at home
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I would like to think that I had USB debugging on but I'm not entirely sure. Knowing me it would have been one of the first things I did.
I'm at work and they have a security guard against data transfer via disk. I can't see the actual storage, just the media Icon, or whatever that is. This may just be a result of the security settings here.
I'll have to check all this at home
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OK I'm not seeing the storage when I USB to my desktop (Windows 7). Lame. I thought it might be that easy.
Hmm. Can't I use Odin or something to back-up to my desktop, then mount the files?
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OK I'm not seeing the storage when I USB to my desktop (Windows 7). Lame. I thought it might be that easy.
Hmm. Can't I use Odin or something to back-up to my desktop, then mount the files?
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I'm also having trouble getting it to go to download mode. It starts to, then reverts to normal boot up.
A new phone's on the way, but I need to get some files of this one, and get it back to stock before I send it in.
What's the likely hood they would charge me for the phone if I send them back the broken phone with a custom ROM? Especially considering that it was undoubtedly a hardware issue and we paid for the extra warranty.
They already processed the return and shipped me a phone. They would have to get my phone, boot it up, and get mad enough to want to punish me, rather than just processing the refurb. I think it's highly unlikely they would try to rescind my warranty, but I'm really trying to give a college try at getting it to stock.
Anymore ideas would be appreciated.
m1batt1 said:
Even though the phone doesn't respond to touch does the computer recognize it as a storage device when you plug it in? If so you should be able to back up your photos and personal files. You could even do a nandroid in recovery then dump those from internal storage to your PC. However I've never tried restoring a nandroid backup to another phone.
Or if you already had USB debugging active you could likely fetch the files you want using adb through terminal but I couldn't help with that.
Just some of my thoughts
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OK, so I'm thinking about what you say about "dumping my nandroid onto my desktop". Would there be a way to access the files from this image using my desktop? There has to be some sort of "virtual droid" or emulator package where I could mount the data.
Thanks. This sucks
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I gave up on recovering my pics and media. They weren't that valuable.
I flashed a stock ROM, but I didn't Triangle Away so my counter reads "1". Do I need it to read "0"?
I performed a factory reset hoping to wipe everything, including my personal photos and media, but there seems to be some confusion as to whether or not this deletes your pics and media. I performed this through the stock recovery as there is no way for me to do it through my ROM without a touchscreen.
What's the latest verdict on this? I read a few threads and it seems people still aren't in agreement.
Does a factory reset/delete through the stock recovery delete EVERYTHING including pics and media? If not, how can I do this? I was thinking that I need to flash CWM again and do some formatting/partitioning?
I'm really trying to read all I can, I just don't have hours to do this right now. I'd greatly appreciate some help.
Thanks
The stock recovery will not delete anything stored on internal storage. AFAIK cwm has the options to and you can use the volume buttons to scroll up and down and power to select the choice.
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mkfryan said:
The stock recovery will not delete anything stored on internal storage. AFAIK cwm has the options to and you can use the volume buttons to scroll up and down and power to select the choice.
Making the iPhone jealous one user at a time.
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OK so I was finally able to look at my storage on my PC via USB, after getting it back to stock ROM, and the reset appears to have deleted everything. There are no pics or vids in the DCIM folder where in the past this is where they've always been. I'm going to content myself with this observation.
Now I just need to set my flash counter to 0. It's at 1. Although I think it's highly unlikely they're going to retro charge me for a phone that's already on the way. Also, my screen has been degrading over time. Now I believe I can't see anything on it. Is it still possible to use Triangle Away when I can't use or see the touch screen. I'm sure I'd have to go from the ADB shell or something. Any thoughts on this would be great. Thanks.