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hey guyss
had my desire z for awhile. Flashed about 20 roms already and lots of fun with them, currently my reception has been terrible and i want to know how a new radio.
Q: what is the best radio currently available for the NAM BELL Dezire Z?
my specs
android 2.3.2
kernal - mexdroid kernal provided (Flippys kernal)
never ever updated my htc dezire z using the update system, so it has the version that was launched with it
Radio - 12.28b.60.140eU_26.03.02.26_M
Important part here: i rooted and S-Offed using the Hboot method & Visionary R12 method from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9143423&postcount=3, and have not touched that stuff since. i used Hboot to get S-OFF in the gtrab guide. Other than that just some tips to flashing a radio. (heard theres a .zip i can flash thorough recovery.)
thanks
edit** paranoid a bit cause it may brick, but if i follow some Proper detailed instructions i should be okay. First time here in radio area.
Honestly, Just follow the directions exactly how they are posted and you should be fine.
waffleman911 said:
Honestly, Just follow the directions exactly how they are posted and you should be fine.
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whats the best radio right now? and theres quite a few radio threads
Hey the radio I'm using so you know is the
Vision_Hutch_AUS_1.85.861.3_Radio_12.28h.60.14 0f_26.06.02.27_M_release.
I'm using this on a true perm s-off g2 usa and I have the eng boot image
the link I used is here give it about 20 min and you'll see a difference asap try your calling,data,and wifi if available lol hope that helps you out some ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959488
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You should download all 7 different radios flash & use them each for a couple of days and compare. I'm on 02.27_M myself & I'm getting better network coverage, faster download & upload's and better wifi coverage. From what I've read results will vary so you have to see wich one works best for you.
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Hey,
The radio link in my signature is the one that I am using for my DZ on the Telus network. It's much more accurate than the stock one that came with it and more accurately depicts when I'm in a 3G/3G+/H network and the signal seems to be more stable. The best part of radios is that if one doesn't work, you can always just flash over it with an older/newer one or the original one.
bootloader-maguro-primekl01
If anybody's interested here's the PRIMEKL01 bootloader, latest version.
It's the same LTE/CDMA leaked version that's floating around, nothing changed as both devices share the same bootloader, as far as I can tell.
It's recommended by Google for those who are on 4.0.3 roms with same XXKK06 radio. I've flashed it running Mike's ARHD 2.1.2 and even though it's not a 4.0.3 rom it's working perfectly.
Inside the zip I've included fastboot for Windows for easy flashing.
Put your phone into fastboot mode and execute the fastboot-windows.bat file.
If you have any problems with it just flash back to the previous version.
Source : http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
Galaxy Nexus (GSM/HSPA+):
Android Version Preferred Bootloader Preferred Radio Also possible
4.0.1 (ITL41D) PRIMEKJ10 I9250XXKK1
4.0.2 (ICL53F) PRIMEKK15 I9250XXKK6 All previous versions
4.0.3 (IML74K) PRIMEKL01 I9250XXKK6 All previous versions
Galaxy Nexus (CDMA/LTE):
Android Version Preferred Bootloader Preferred Radio Preferred CDMA Radio Also possible
4.0.1 (ITL41D) PRIMEKJ10 I515.EK02 I515.EK01
4.0.2 (ICL53F) PRIMEKK15 I515.EK02 I515.EK05 All previous versions
4.0.3 (IML74K) PRIMEKL01 I515.EK04 I515.EK06 All previous versions
Dedicated a thread for more exposure
Any actual improvement? Just wondering why its worth flashing....boot loader isn't something I have knowingly flashed before so can't understand what it controls that would yield a noticeable benifit. Any help clarifying this would be appreciated! Thanks
Wait so this bootloader is for LTE/CDMA devices then?
Dmw017 said:
Wait so this bootloader is for LTE/CDMA devices then?
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As stated in the OP both versions use same boot loader and I just used it on my GSM gnex and all is good and working.
Thanks gingernut for making this nice and noob friendly, hope you can keep this thread updated with all latest boot loaders as and when they come out with a 1 click flash like yours
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i have flashed this bootloader on my GSM Galaxy Nexus.. all working fine.. thx
So is there any word on what bootloader is recommended for UGKL1 radios ?
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So is there any word on what bootloader is recommended for UGKL1 radios ?
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Should be all good as GSM and LTE use same boot loader, this being most recent and UGKL1 is a new(ish) radio.
I'm on XXKK06 radio (UK gsm) with Android revolution 2.1.3 with james bond 1.35 ghz kernal and all good here.
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Would someone mind giving a little more detailed instruction on how to do this? Sorry, but I'm just not that familiar with fastboot. Besides, I'm sure I'm asking something a lot of folks are afraid to ask.
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It's very easy.
1. Put the phone in fastboot mode: pull battery, then reinsert it and press vol up+vol down+power. The phone will boot with a green Android and some white text in the lower left. This is fastboot.
2. Plug in your phone to the PC, and install fastboot drivers if necessary.
3. Run the .bat file in the zip in the OP.
What's the advantage in this bootloader
Compared to others ? Anyone notice any improvements?
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rafi300 said:
What's the advantage in this bootloader
Compared to others ? Anyone notice any improvements?
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I can't say I have really noticed any differences really, the biotloader runs deep deep with in the the phone so at OS level you won't really notice anything.
The main reason for updating it is because its recommended by Google to use with these newer radios
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The main reason for updating it is because its recommended by Google to use with these newer radios
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I'm not going to say that you are making things up, but I would like to see this claim quoted before I take anyone's word for it. Sorry for being a sceptic, but bootloader and radio are two such orthogonally separated concepts that I just don't see the link.
If I am proven wrong (and that does happen ), I'll make up for being an asshole by adding a link to this thread in my radio collection thread
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I'm not going to say that you are making things up, but I would like to see this claim quoted before I take anyone's word for it. Sorry for being a sceptic, but bootloader and radio are two such orthogonally separated concepts that I just don't see the link.
If I am proven wrong (and that does happen ), I'll make up for being an asshole by adding a link to this thread in my radio collection thread
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Its all good and no offence taken buddy I'm just going by what iv read around the forums
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josteink said:
I'm not going to say that you are making things up, but I would like to see this claim quoted before I take anyone's word for it. Sorry for being a sceptic, but bootloader and radio are two such orthogonally separated concepts that I just don't see the link.
If I am proven wrong (and that does happen ), I'll make up for being an asshole by adding a link to this thread in my radio collection thread
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http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
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Galaxy Nexus (GSM/HSPA+):
Preferred Bootloader for 4.0.3 = PRIMEKL01
Preferred Radio for 4.0.3 = I9250XXKK6
Please post checksums with images as critical as bootloaders.
edit: md5: 6efef5932379acc87ce9e17e79d21787 bootloader-maguro-primekl01.img
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http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
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Galaxy Nexus (GSM/HSPA+):
Preferred Bootloader for 4.0.3 = PRIMEKL01
Preferred Radio for 4.0.3 = I9250XXKK6
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I think he was looking for evidence that they are linked somehow? Just best they are recomended for the same android version doesnt mean they are intrinsicly linked.
Hmmm so know one knows why they are flashing this thing? Just need to get your RDA of 'flash' I think lol
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http://source.android.com/source/building-devices.html
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Galaxy Nexus (GSM/HSPA+):
Preferred Bootloader for 4.0.3 = PRIMEKL01
Preferred Radio for 4.0.3 = I9250XXKK6
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The way I read this is that for a specific version/build of Android a specific bootloader is recommended. That I can totally relate to.
I can also see how a specific radio might be "recommended" for a specific Android-build, as that build might rely on or exploit specific radio-implementation details or optimizations.
What I don't see is any link between how flashing a radio leads to a "recommended bootloader". Sorry for being difficult, but I just don't see it.
I'll consider this flashing OCD until proven otherwise
josteink said:
The way I read this is that for a specific version/build of Android a specific bootloader is recommended. That I can totally relate to.
I can also see how a specific radio might be "recommended" for a specific Android-build, as that build might rely on or exploit specific radio-implementation details or optimizations.
What I don't see is any link between how flashing a radio leads to a "recommended bootloader". Sorry for being difficult, but I just don't see it.
I'll consider this flashing OCD until proven otherwise
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No I agree, I've never known a specific bootloader to be a requirement for a Radio. Usually it's always the ROM itself requiring different versions due to RIL's and whatever else lies within, hence it usually always relates to the build version instead.
Just updated it last night and seems good in a short time...
Thanks for share.
Hello all,
My desire has [email protected] #2 kernel. Since I've noticed that the perfomance has been decreased (lagging), should I flash another kernel?
Also, about the radio, where to look for the version? Is it the baseband version? (Which is: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27) Which problems would indicate an update of radio?
Thank you for your time!
pspuser007 said:
Also, about the radio, where to look for the version? Is it the baseband version? (Which is: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27) Which problems would indicate an update of radio?
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Your radio version is 5.11.05.27. The latest radio 5.17.05.23 available here link. I have yet to hear somebody solving his problems after flashing new radio. CM 7 recommends latest radio though. Flash with caution. Brick territory
pspuser007 said:
Hello all,
My desire has [email protected] #2 kernel. Since I've noticed that the perfomance has been decreased (lagging), should I flash another kernel?
Also, about the radio, where to look for the version? Is it the baseband version? (Which is: 32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27) Which problems would indicate an update of radio?
Thank you for your time!
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The most important question is what rom do you use?
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nlooooo said:
The most important question is what rom do you use?
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I'm using Cool3D AceS v5. Why is this the most important question?
handy5876 said:
Your radio version is 5.11.05.27. The latest radio 5.17.05.23 available here link. I have yet to hear somebody solving his problems after flashing new radio. CM 7 recommends latest radio though. Flash with caution. Brick territory
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The only bad thing that happens is that when I am talking to a friend, it starts with me stop hearing my friend and then the call will be ended..
I know it could be his problem, as well, but he says it's happening only with me. He has HTC Desire HD...we had flashed android revolution to his device..
This should be relatively simple, I just can't find a solid, straightforward answer.
Is "Firmware" the same thing as what is commonly reffered to as the "Radio?"
It is separate from kernel, no?
TheAtheistReverend said:
This should be relatively simple, I just can't find a solid, straightforward answer.
Is "Firmware" the same thing as what is commonly reffered to as the "Radio?"
It is separate from kernel, no?
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The firmware contains the radio. It is separate from the kernel. Not sure what all exactly comes comes in the firmware.
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tylerlawhon said:
The firmware contains the radio. It is separate from the kernel. Not sure what all exactly comes comes in the firmware.
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So, when we flash a "Radio", we're flashing "Firmware" but just calling it "Radio?" Is it possible to separate the two, or have you ever seen that?
Thanks for the re-ply :good:
TheAtheistReverend said:
So, when we flash a "Radio", we're flashing "Firmware" but just calling it "Radio?" Is it possible to separate the two, or have you ever seen that?
Thanks for the re-ply :good:
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Yes you can seperate, the radio is considered a firmware update but also there are things such as the touch part of the hardware that is changed with firmware updates, to put into car terms firmware is like chevrolet and the radio is like corvette, it's a type of firmware. Hope my over simplified and non technical explanation helps you get the gist of it though I'm sure someone can and will come on here and correct it with the exact terminology and much longer explanation.
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From my understanding, and someone please correct me if in wrong, but a radio is related to signal strength and other means, and firmware is the android build
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Yes you can seperate, the radio is considered a firmware update but also there are things such as the touch part of the hardware that is changed with firmware updates, to put into car terms firmware is like chevrolet and the radio is like corvette, it's a type of firmware. Hope my over simplified and non technical explanation helps you get the gist of it though I'm sure someone can and will come on here and correct it with the exact terminology and much longer explanation.
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Thanks for the explination. I think I undcerstand it a bit better now. I guess I'm just a little confused because when I (briefly) had a Rezound, it was always "firmware this" and "firmware that" where as with the DInc2 there is almost never a reference to "firmware" but often to "radio."
It makes sense though. I'm just wary of (a post I saw recently in the DInc2 forums) when people say you need to "flash the latest firmware" to flash a specific rom when, where you find this "firmware" is in the "radio" everyone is familiar with as a "radio".
BTW, if anyone wants to go into more detail, I (and maybe others) would surely appreciate it!
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From my understanding, and someone please correct me if in wrong, but a radio is related to signal strength and other means, and firmware is the android build
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This doesn't sound quite accurate considering the previous posts. Symantics may be at issue here...
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This doesn't sound quite accurate considering the previous posts. Symantics may be at issue here...
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I can't really add any technical knowledge, but it seems in Samsung land they call the radio the modem...At least that's what I saw when I was perusing the GSII forums.
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I can't really add any technical knowledge, but it seems in Samsung land they call the radio the modem...At least that's what I saw when I was perusing the GSII forums.
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Yep, was that way on the fascinate
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Now keep in mind that I am no expert, and I think TAR is referring to is the leaked ICS that was given to Nitsuj that had some firmware updates, correct me if I am wrong. I think there may have been some other firmware aside from the radio in that leak. I believe someone may have unpacked that rom and separated the firmware and/or radio and made it available to us to use, giving us the .320 radio. Now, here is where it gets a bit shady for me, if you installed that leaked rom (which I did not do) and updated the firmware you were using the .320 radio. I am running the .320 radio, but I installed from the .zip in the radio forum so I don't know if I may have missed some other type of firmware that was only provided if you installed the leaked ICS rom. I know that jameshmiller provided the .320 radio .zip and he may be the one to ask if there was any other firmware that was not provided in the radio he pulled out of the leak for us. Does this provide a better question, or am I just completely rambling? If some one were to ask me, I would say that the radios are firmware but again I don't know much about the Android Development, I just benefit from it.
The firmware pack contains the .320 radio and a few other updates (I can't tell what they are from looking at the filenames). The radio controls data, WiFi, GPS and all that, which is why people generally like upgrades. I think the radio in the radio thread is just the radio, without all the other firmware.
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So what exactly is a kernel
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So what exactly is a kernel
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Basically a set of drivers for the rom.
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So what exactly is a kernel
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Google it, you'll probably get a much more in depth explanation than we care to type out
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Google it, you'll probably get a much more in depth explanation than we care to type out
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http://goo.gl/p9ftT
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I was only asking because it was also in the OP
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So what exactly is a kernel
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The way I understand a "kernel" is the programming that acts as the bridge, or interface between the hardware (the phone) and the software (the rom).
This is why we need HTC to release the source for it to make custom kernels for roms on different Android versions (2.3, 4.0, 4.1 etc.)
A kernel is something that, once heated, will make popcorn.
Ice Cream Sandwich flavored popcorn.
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Let's see if I can give a more comprehensive answer to this.
The term "firmware" is used to describe a piece of software that is stored in read-only memory which sticks around even if the device is powered off. The firmware is there when you power on the device so it can get it kick-started: reading the operating system from internal storage, etc.
One key component to your device is the hardware that talks to the networks, be they WiFi, CDMA, 4G, whatever. That hardware has associated firmware that controls how the hardware talks to the various networks. That specific firmware is often called the "Radio" or the "Modem". That firmware is stored on a dedicated partition of your phone's internal storage, allowing you to update just the "Radio" bits.
The kernel is the base operating system. Think of it like DOS on a PC: the kernel controls the system and includes drivers that talk to the display, touchscreen, radio, and other components. Like DOS, the kernel doesn't really provide much of a user interface, so you run Windows on top of that.
On Android devices, the kernel is Linux. You then run the Android User Interface (UI) bits on top of that, using the kernel to control access to the phone. The kernel is also firmware that's stored on a different dedicated partition of your phone's storage.
The kernel contains the drivers that allow access to the device-specific hardware in your phone. It also provides hooks for the Android system to control that hardware. You've got to have a kernel that's compatible with whatever version of Android you're trying to run; that's why devs need access to kernel source since that gives them the drivers that Android expects.
Just wondering, my radio for the most part works fine. Having some WiFi connectivity issues here and there (connection drops lots of packets after a while and it's better to revert to 3G) but that could be rom-based as it's a recent thing. Other issue is the phone takes far longer than my old N1 to pick up signal again after being underground (often have to switch on/off airplane mode) and this has been this way since day 1
In any case, they are minor issues, but I hear that updating radios can really unlock a lot of the phones data speed and battery potential.
So the question is how do I go about it? Is it just a matter of flashing the latest radio? Right now I have baseband XXLF1 (out of the box) and I've been looking at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34045210 as the latest version, how do I know if it's compatible with my particular device?
Moreover, all of these basebands seem to have CWM flash capability, what about TWRP?
monkeyhatchet said:
Just wondering, my radio for the most part works fine. Having some WiFi connectivity issues here and there (connection drops lots of packets after a while and it's better to revert to 3G) but that could be rom-based as it's a recent thing. Other issue is the phone takes far longer than my old N1 to pick up signal again after being underground (often have to switch on/off airplane mode) and this has been this way since day 1
In any case, they are minor issues, but I hear that updating radios can really unlock a lot of the phones data speed and battery potential.
So the question is how do I go about it? Is it just a matter of flashing the latest radio? Right now I have baseband XXLF1 (out of the box) and I've been looking at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=34045210 as the latest version, how do I know if it's compatible with my particular device?
Moreover, all of these basebands seem to have CWM flash capability, what about TWRP?
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You could have asked that question in that thread.. But latest European gsm radio is XXLH1, and yes, those zips should be compatible with twrp.
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bk201doesntexist said:
You could have asked that question in that thread.. But latest European gsm radio is XXLH1, and yes, those zips should be compatible with twrp.
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So will it work fine with my phone which is on AWS spectrum? I know Europe uses different frequencies. Sorry for the newbie question, I'm just nervous about bricking my phone.
Is it safe to flash a takju radio over a yakju device?
Also can't figure out what RIL is?
monkeyhatchet said:
So will it work fine with my phone which is on AWS spectrum? I know Europe uses different frequencies. Sorry for the newbie question, I'm just nervous about bricking my phone.
Is it safe to flash a takju radio over a yakju device?
Also can't figure out what RIL is?
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What carrier are you on?
It's not a newbie question, and I'm not sure it will work with AWS, but it should as it's just a subset of UMTS.
Yes, takju radios are the same as yakju radios
RIL = radio interface layer
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You could have asked that question in that thread.. But latest European gsm radio is XXLH1, and yes, those zips should be compatible with twrp.
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I have a Canadian version of GN and my baseband is exactly the same???
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I have a Canadian version of GN and my baseband is exactly the same???
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As i own a gsm model, I didn't know for sure. But like I stated, AWS uses a subset of the UMTS bands, so it should work.
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What carrier are you on?
It's not a newbie question, and I'm not sure it will work with AWS, but it should as it's just a subset of UMTS.
Yes, takju radios are the same as yakju radios
RIL = radio interface layer
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I'm on WIND mobile in Canada, same spectrum as T-mobile US. If the phone is already on XXLF1, is it safe to say it will be alright with XXLH1? Aren't they both for the same devices?
Moreover, if something goes wrong with the flash (incompatible model or so) is there any recourse?
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I'm on WIND mobile in Canada, same spectrum as T-mobile US. If the phone is already on XXLF1, is it safe to say it will be alright with XXLH1? Aren't they both for the same devices?
Moreover, if something goes wrong with the flash (incompatible model or so) is there any recourse?
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Yes. Compare md5sums, flash the radio through fastboot, you should be fine.
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monkeyhatchet said:
I'm on WIND mobile in Canada, same spectrum as T-mobile US. If the phone is already on XXLF1, is it safe to say it will be alright with XXLH1? Aren't they both for the same devices?
Moreover, if something goes wrong with the flash (incompatible model or so) is there any recourse?
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Hi OP, if you purchased your unit in canada, it is a GSM version.
XXLH1 will work, it will work on WIND mobile for sure (I am on wind too
Also the zip files will work, all TWRP and CWM are basically the same, AFAIK, all flashable zip are compatible with TWRP and CWM.
If you are unsure about which radio to flash, i would simply suggest you to make a backup, and flash the original image from google, which contains the latest radio for your device.
All images can be obtained from here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Go ahead and flash Takju/Yakju, it doesnt make any difference in canada as google wallet doesnt even work here. I am on Yakju, lol.