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[Q] Several Questions about mods etc

I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]

As i am new at these things too, i will try to answer some of your questions.
1. Cyanogenmod is based on AOST source, which is main android source, while Revolution, LeeDrOID and rest are based on HTC source.
2. To be able to flash cooked ROM your Desire HD needs to be rooted.
Full step-by-step guide is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11557769
3. Themes for one ROM might work on other, but are not recommended.
4. Check the guide in point 2.
5. Same as above.
6. I think you got that right.
I hope i helped you a bit.Cheers

glenvarun said:
I just got my desire HD a few days ago. But have been visiting this site from some time back. Now i wanna load a custom mod on my phone. However there are several questions which i am stuck at. :|
1) What is the difference between the "Android Revolution HD 3.2 mod[ARHD]" and "Cynagenmod"?
2)Is rooting required? If yes, could anyone help me how to please.
3)In the Themes and Apps section i seen that many themes had the [CM7] tag. Im assuming this is for the cyanogenmod, but will it work on the "ARHD" also?
4)Most of the mods installation asks for S-off or so. What is it? :
5)What is flashing?
and lastly
6)Whats the difference between Sense UI and no-sense UI? [im thinking it includes/excludes the default htc sense.]
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Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also. You should probably ask the mod developer if his mod is compatable with another ROM, but I think CM7 being Gingerbread and ARHD3.2 being Froyo, the chances are slim. S-OFF is "Security OFF". HTC introduced a level of security which was supposed to make the system "read only" for anyone but them to prevent custom ROMs, kernels and ultimately - overclocking, which potentialy can damage your device. Luckily thy didn't do a good job on that, so the developers found a workaround. Flashing is writing a new ROM, kernel or a set of system files in your phone. And lastly, you are correct about the sense/non-sense stuff.
You can find good guides in the developement section about rooting, S-OFF (both radio and eng), flashing ROMs, etc. Bear in mind though that if your software version is 1.72, you'll have to downgrade first to get to the rootable 1.32

First of all thanks for the help.
I suppose flash means to install. Also the guide you gave me tells how to put s-off but i wanted to know what does s-off mean??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App

glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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Custom Roms are there to help and inprove the things...
Overclocking is running an hardware to something which it was not designed for...So it could harm the phone (Does not mean that it always does, there are guys who are running the overclock phone without problem).
Custom Roms are just the installed ROM so if you flash one rom and don't like it replace it with another one..before flashing read the instruction and flash (I was only able to run official rom for 2 hours, after that I rooted and installed CM7...

@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?

Yes you can revert your handset back to complete factory settings by running a suitable RUU (Rom Update Utility).
This will restore everything, except Radio S-OFF, back to HTC defaults. You could then send your handset away to be repaired, etc...

glenvarun said:
@sanju.
so there wouldnt be any problems right? and which would you suggest.
Revolution or CM7 ?
Also the warranty gets void if im not wrong but is there any way to counter it like in the case of apple devices?
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Rom depends on your choice, Revolution is based on HTC framework (sense and no-sense both available), 3.2 is froyo based, 4.X is gingerbread but its in beta..YOu will get the stock applications like video player, camera etc..
CM7 is also under development, RC2 is stable version, It is based on AOSP GingerBread...has a lot of modifications....I use this one....Just my preferance...
You can try both and see which one you like...
About warrenty, yes, you need to restore the RUU to claim it, but there are enough thread around which will tell you how to do that...
The only thing is I haven't seen the RUU for India, there is one for Asia and version number is close so that can work...in case it is required, or...before flashing custom rom create a backup for your official rom and save that backup...so that you can use that to come back to official rom...

Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .

tkolev said:
Some of the mods are made specificaly for a ROM. The tag describes what ROM they are designed for. Rooting and S-OFF is requred for installation of a custom ROM, so yes, it's required for the mods also.
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Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)

glenvarun said:
Oh but i checked and seen that in CM7 the things like gps and google maps don't work .
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Some people have had trouble with the gps lock on CM7, not all, as I for one haven't got any problems with neither of the RCs nor the nightlys. I'm running nightly build 20 atm. And there is a fix for the gps included in the latest two nightlys so it's not a problem anymore.

just read a lot man, all informations you want is spread out there! in beggining this thread helps a lot: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
hope it can help! =o)

glenvarun said:
@ tkolev
Thanks a ton maan , that seriously helped a lot .
Btw you suggested in your post that overclockin could hwrm the system. Can cuetom roms also harm the system by any way??
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
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No, overclocking to a reasonable extend should not harm your phone. I'm running an overclocked kernel (1.2 GHz) and it has no negative effect on my phone. In the manufacturing process there are deviations from the design and Qualcomm has rated the processor which is in our DHDs to 1GHz. This means that most processors can safely handle higher frequencies, but the higher they rate their production, more units will have to be scrapped. I think it's quite safe to go for 1.2 or even 1.5 (if you really need it and monitor the teperature closely) but I would never run on 1.8 GHz. I just wanted to explain why HTC decided to go for locked internal memory. There is a reason for that, not just because they are mean control freaks... oh wait those were Apple .

BigMrB said:
Not all custom roms require S-OFF btw... I would root your phone, once you have custom recovery you can flash your custom rom
get familiar with adb and just read read read .... plenty of guides out there
I would S-OFF after you are familiar with everything else... messing around with partition tables is a easy way to brick your phone... you can always S-OFF at a later date (just my personal view - alot of people S-OFF very quickly - depends how badly you want additional mods)
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I didn't know that you can install a custom recovery without S-OFF. Or a custom ROM without a custom recovery. Anyway there are many users which followed the guide in the developement section (including me) and did just fine (thanks to the great tools made by jkoljo and all the help we get in this great forum). Ultimately is anyone's decision what to do with his/her own phone.

I'm gonna s-off this weekend after I've fixed my custom recovery
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Guess u guys are confusing between Radio S-Off and Eng-S-OFF.
You can't install a custom recovery without Eng-SOFF, hence u can't install custom Roms.
There is a one click S-Off for Eng-Soff & Radio S-OFf which u can find in Dev Section.
This should do the work quickly and in a painless way...
Personally i would recommend to go for MIUI or CM7...

All your questions have been answered clearly.
Just one warning regarding the warranty. It's possible to revert to stock EXCEPT if one hard key is needed and it doesn't work.
If on DHD all can be done via adb then it's ok (never checked).
I'm just coming from HD2 and without vol- key you were fu**ed (can't launch the bootloader but OS bootable).
Anyway never stopped me to install custom roms the first day

[q] htc desire hd stock rom

Hello
i am new to xda and i don't know if this thread is in the right place sorry if it isn't in the right place
i have been searching all day but i couldn't find what i needed.
I rooted my htc desire hd and downloaded a custom rom
Now i want my stock rom back
i tried finding the ruu and found some by xmoo but the rom i need inst there. I downloaded version 1.72.405.3 but couldn't get the ota update to 1.8
The rom i had was
T mobile version 1.8x
anybody know where i can get that ??
thanks

4tifjaved said:
Hello
i am new to xda and i don't know if this thread is in the right place sorry if it isn't in the right place
i have been searching all day but i couldn't find what i needed.
I rooted my htc desire hd and downloaded a custom rom
Now i want my stock rom back
i tried finding the ruu and found some by xmoo but the rom i need inst there. I downloaded version 1.72.405.3 but couldn't get the ota update to 1.8
The rom i had was
T mobile version 1.8x
anybody know where i can get that ??
thanks
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I'm not sure about the T-Mobile version of the ROM (not sure of any customizations they included), but you can download stock ROM's from the link below:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Ace
Obviously the best way would be to restore a ClockwordMod Backup of your original configuration, but I'm guessing such a backup was never done?
Just out of curiosity, why do you wish to return to a stock ROM?
Hope this helps

ashleyayling said:
I'm not sure about the T-Mobile version of the ROM (not sure of any customizations they included), but you can download stock ROM's from the link below:
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Ace
Obviously the best way would be to restore a ClockwordMod Backup of your original configuration, but I'm guessing such a backup was never done?
Just out of curiosity, why do you wish to return to a stock ROM?
Hope this helps
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Here's a question. I'm a proud owner of a GT-i9000 SGSI and my sister has a HTC Desire HD.
She's recently been complaining about various issues with the phone itself. I haven't had a look at it yet but I'd like to know what the most current stable stock ROM is and how to install/flash.
That link that ashleyayling has supplied takes you to a page full of ROMs for something called ACE? Is that Galaxy Ace or is that a build version or something?
I've tried searching and ROM shows up plenty of times but nothing regarding stock ROMs. TBH, I haven't looked through all 39 pages of the search but I thought maybe someone will be able to help me?
To summarise:
1. Latest (stable) stock ROM
2. How to install/flash
Many thanks.

Akhtar507 said:
That link that ashleyayling has supplied takes you to a page full of ROMs for something called ACE? Is that Galaxy Ace or is that a build version or something?
I've tried searching and ROM shows up plenty of times but nothing regarding stock ROMs. TBH, I haven't looked through all 39 pages of the search but I thought maybe someone will be able to help me?
To summarise:
1. Latest (stable) stock ROM
2. How to install/flash
Many thanks.
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1. The link provided above is a full list of stock roms in RUU format. Ace was the codename for the Desire HD, so anything referring to Ace is usually the DHD
2. have a look in the development section, there's heaps of threads to help you out with this one, I don't think it would be an easy straightforward answer for someone to give you here (that's why there's whole threads dedicated to it)

Not to barge in on someone else needing help (Noob to the forums) but wondered if you can point me in the right direction! Desperately in need of help as I just killed My Rooted then OTA updated (killing the root) DHD. I was trying to root it again using the Ace Hack Tool and it's now stuck at the T-Mobile loading screen! I'm stumped as to what to do as no matter what I put on the SD it won't update it to work. And can't update via USB as it won't go into the OS. It does flash up quickly some writing while going into the bootloader but all I can make out is Image not Found... Please help! ATM its an expensive paperweight!

Sorry, I looked at the link given and there are loads of .exe downloads.
Can someone please say which one is the latest Stock RUU, I am selling my phone tomorrow and need to put it back to stock, if someone can just say which one I need to download.
Im guessing I just install it like I do with any custom rom through clockword mod.
Will I have root after the stock RUU has been installed? I dont think it matters if it is rooted or not so i'm not bothered too much about that, but i'm not sure they'll be happy if its on ICS MIUI which isn't 100% stable
Kevin

Guide to GB ROMS?

Hello all,
I like many others, I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
I have seen many guide to install ROMS and it seems more or less clear.
My problem, and maybe the problem for other noobs if the fact that there are so many ROMs out there. It is difficult to know which one to take.
For example, I am looking for plain old stock android 2.3 for the desire. No sense, no extra HTC apps. Just what google would have on the nexus 1. But, I cant figure out which ROM fits that.
Any ideas?
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it

Get Oxygen Rom mate its nice and basic , if u want to go too basic get DevNull
But for starters i think u shud go with oxygen
Pm me if u want to discuss any other details

pablo_max said:
I have installed the new GB ROM from the RUU supplied by HTC and it is "OK". However, i would like something else.
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Well, if you installed official Gingerbread 3.14.405.1 RUU, you can't get root (yet). No root means that you can't install custom rom.

pablo_max said:
What would be great is sticky which lists the ROMs and their main features for all us noobs. Unless there is one already and I didnt see it
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Isn't there one already?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
Sent from my HTC Original Desire using Tapatalk

watch the video tutorial too - but it sounds like you want an AOSP rom

Yup, you definitely wanna try Oxygen + it was recently updated to Android 2.3.5.
It's sense free, all bloatware removed, very fast & minimalistic.
http://forum.oxygen.im/viewtopic.php?id=149 (it wasn't updated on XDA yet, but you can download it from there)
CyanogenMod7 will also fit you.

Should have read into what you were doing before you updated. You can't root now, which means no custom ROMs for you. HTC updated HBOOT so no more rooting for the time being. You're stuck with it till someone cracks it. Unlucky dude.

My recommendation:
Sense (2.1+3.0) : InsertCoin 1.0.9
AOSP: Oxygen
no MIUI from me...sorry..

Thanks for all the replies. I am pretty sure it is only a matter of days or weeks at most until I can root. I recall the same situation last update.
It sounds like oxygen is the way to go. Once the root is available I will give it a shot. Thanks.

Couple of questions..

Good morning everyone, I have been here on XDA for some time now and all I can say is that this forum rocks, keep it up. Now, a friend of mine has this phone, Galaxy Gio, and he is really pissed by the fact that it has only 150 MB for installing apps and he asked me for help. Well, I told him that he could install a custom ROM and then he could move all his apps on the microSD card, he didn't like the idea at first but after a while I talked him into it. Now I need your help, in order to install app2sd(from darktremor I think) do I need to have a custom ROM or having a rooted phone is enough?Which ROM do you recommend in words of performance/stability ?I was thinking about BNC, Adrenaline or CM 7.2 but I haven't followed this phone's activity that much so I don't really know which rom is the best one. Also, every and each of these roms have app2sd integrated or do I need to install that separately?Sorry for my English if it's that bad. I hope you can help me, if you think that this questions have been asked before, you have my apologizes and you can close the thread without any problems. Have a nice day!

I am on a stock rom and have link2sd on my phone.
Works good to trow apps on the sdcard.
You can found info on this forum to install link2sd.
link for link2sd..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919326
I have no custom rom because my phone is provider locket.
Your friends phone most have root al's it don't work.
Link for root..http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1111414
Hope it helpt.

Thanks a lot. Now, who can recommend a good custom ROM?Or is CM7 good enough?BNC?

I myself use 7.2 and it works like a charm, also very easy flashing.

Need help installing new kernel

Hello and thank you for taking your time in reading, I will start by letting you know my samsung captivate glide is already rooted, android version 4.0.4 and stock kernel 3.1.10-I927ICLJ3-CL970642, now I found this wonderful thread in the development forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892538
mostly im interested in having more available RAM, but it does have a lot of good perks, after reading thru all 32 pages I could not find instruction on how to flash a kernel so here are my questions.
1) how do i flash a new kernel on my phone ?
2) Do i need to flash a rom as well or can i keep the stock ICS with the new kernel ?

Download and install clockworkmod .. the rest will make sense after that

yohan4ws said:
Download and install clockworkmod .. the rest will make sense after that
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Oh I forgot to mention I already have clockwork mod

not sure if you can keep the stock rom with the kernel (bone stock.) I don't see why not ... I used Dman's UCLJ3 pre-rooted rom and flashed litekernel onto it so you should be able to.
in CWM, install zip from sdcard, browse to your download folder on your phone and install it.
MAKE SURE you do a full backup first so you can revert if something doesn't pan out.

yohan4ws said:
not sure if you can keep the stock rom with the kernel (bone stock.) I don't see why not ... I used Dman's UCLJ3 pre-rooted rom and flashed litekernel onto it so you should be able to.
in CWM, install zip from sdcard, browse to your download folder on your phone and install it.
MAKE SURE you do a full backup first so you can revert if something doesn't pan out.
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ty yohan, i see that flashing a kernel is pretty much the same as flashing a rom, I like the stock rom, how stable is Dman's ?

There's crashing issues with his AOKP lockscreen version but it could be because I installed thegreatergoods litekernel. So if you're going to download the pre-rooted debloaded deodex. etc etc.. go with the one that doesn't have the lockscreen. the 14 toggles mod will work and can be configured by quickpanel settings in apps.
One thing that shouldn't be overlooked is ICE Pop, it has a themed dialer (big plus) ... Thegreatergoods literom will be good as well, but personally I dont like the cyan and yellow colors in the messaging app.

I flashed the kernel with success but after testing it for a week I decided to go back to stock, tho speeds were amazingly fast the device was alot more unstable and I couldent handle all the crashes and reebots

How well does the phone work with CMRom ? ive been reading in this thread of some happy and some unhappy user
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109774&highlight=best+rom

I recomend to you icePop ROM 1.3
HexbladeInc2 said:
How well does the phone work with CMRom ? ive been reading in this thread of some happy and some unhappy user
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2109774&highlight=best+rom
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Hi! I probe CM10rom but it do not have still audio in recording video, and for me is important.
Now, I have IcePop ROM 1.3 and I like it. Stable and with theatering, video record with audio and my car bluetooth link OK.
Rgrds
koximo