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T-mobile US and t-Zones

I need to know if I get a Touch Pro 2 will it automatically change me to the smartphone data plan?? or will i still be able to use t-zones... I search the forum and there was no clear answer to the question. I currently have a Touch Pro One, and I use t-zones.
Any clarity to the answer will be much appreciated... I'd rather switch carriers than pay the higher amount.
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I have purchased a TP2 and have had it for about 1 month (with a billing cycle)... I still have T-zones, and I have not needed to upgrade, nor has T-mobile changed my plan. T-zones work at 3G speeds! $5.99 has never been so well spent.

i bought my tp2 from ebay for that reason, i don't have tzones but i do have unlimted data for 19.99 that they don't offer no more and tmobile wants you to buy a new plan that cost 25.99 or 35.99 with text messages. i didn't want that its to much money. but i now have had my tp2 for almost a month and they didn't switch nothing bc i never upgraded with them, and never renewed my contract. also i now get 3g speed.
hope that help your decesion. TP2 is awesome

diablc said:
I need to know if I get a Touch Pro 2 will it automatically change me to the smartphone data plan?? or will i still be able to use t-zones... I search the forum and there was no clear answer to the question. I currently have a Touch Pro One, and I use t-zones.
Any clarity to the answer will be much appreciated... I'd rather switch carriers than pay the higher amount.
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T-Mobile won't switch you automatically and you still can use T-Zones plan with the TP2.

i just got a new touch pro 2 from my friend 4 days ago and I have tzones $5.99 plan and it is working just fine with 3G.

When the phone first came out there was mass confusion within TMobile over whether a new plan was *required*. But it turned out the new plan wasn't required (and in fact not even any tweaks needed, full 3G right out of the box), but the staff did try to encourage users to change. I had TZones and was able to buy online at the TMobile site without it even asking about a plan upgrade (I took this route to avoid any problems with uninformed staff as I'd been in a branch where they wouldn't sell it without the upgrade, and had had conflicting answers from reps on the phone). A couple of days ago I was talking to the TMo rep on another matter, and he tried to get me to upgrade. He was surprised that TZones was getting me full internet. I said no thanks, and he somewhat reluctantly let it go.

I've heard of people getting full internet from just T-Zones. How exactly does that work cuz it's got me curious now.

t-zones will work with the TP2 and if you happen to have canceled your t-zones plan like me because the person at t-mobile told you it would not work anymore then you can use the 9.99 t-web plan but just make sure in connections you change the APN to Internet2.voicestream.com

TP2 SIM swap question
Hey,
I'm getting a TP2 for my wife with a required data plan at a discount. since I want the phone, I'm going to put my SIM card into it and use it with my T-zones and unltd loyalty plan, then give her a motophone and cancel the data plan. Will they require me to ditch my T-zones and pick up a new data plan or will that scenario only apply to her SIM card?
Thanks,
OZ

I originally had the T-Mobile Wing with T-zones working perfectly, but when the TP2 came out, I purchased it from the T-Mobile store (big mistake). I told them that I didn't use the internet at all and I wanted to keep my T-zones. Unfortunately, they told me that I had to get a smartphone plan at $25/mo and that I could not keep the T-zones intact. It sucks really hard because my friend still has his T-zones for his Dash and when I plugged his SIM card into my phone and my G1, everything worked through T-zones. Plus he got 3G speeds to boot!
If I did the WinMo promotion through T-Mobile, I could have just added another line on my family plan and gotten the phone for $150, keep it for 2 weeks, then cancel the line and pay the $200 ETF and whatever the prorated charges for the extra line would come out to be. I'd still have T-zones on my line, no contract extension, and a TP2 to boot. Either way, I would have ended up paying $400 w/tax for the phone.
On a side note, I called Customer Service and told them that the data charge was going to make my bill a little more expensive than what I could afford and asked them if I could return the phone and get T-zones back. The rep didn't address the return issue and T-zones, but instead offered to switch my $19.99 unlimited family texting plan to the old $9.99 unlimited family texting plan that was available a few years back.
Saving $10/mo is really nice, but I'd rather save another $20. Going to try the web chat with T-Mobile today and use the TZUNL599 code. I saw it HERE and I'm hoping it will work. Wish me luck!

roccotrisoliere said:
i bought my tp2 from ebay for that reason, i don't have tzones but i do have unlimted data for 19.99 that they don't offer no more and tmobile wants you to buy a new plan that cost 25.99 or 35.99 with text messages. i didn't want that its to much money. but i now have had my tp2 for almost a month and they didn't switch nothing bc i never upgraded with them, and never renewed my contract. also i now get 3g speed.
hope that help your decesion. TP2 is awesome
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I'm using the $10 non smartphone web plan with my TP2 with no problems

sdaddy said:
I'm using the $10 non smartphone web plan with my TP2 with no problems
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Would this be the web2go plan? I heard that there was a data cap with that plan.

freakingwilly said:
Would this be the web2go plan? I heard that there was a data cap with that plan.
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i think the current web2go has a cap of 100mb (not sure by any means), but the old web2go/tzones for $5.99 was unlimited

diablc said:
I need to know if I get a Touch Pro 2 will it automatically change me to the smartphone data plan?? or will i still be able to use t-zones... I search the forum and there was no clear answer to the question. I currently have a Touch Pro One, and I use t-zones.
Any clarity to the answer will be much appreciated... I'd rather switch carriers than pay the higher amount.
****update*****
I have purchased a TP2 and have had it for about 1 month (with a billing cycle)... I still have T-zones, and I have not needed to upgrade, nor has T-mobile changed my plan. T-zones work at 3G speeds! $5.99 has never been so well spent.
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Diablc,
Can you share, how to go about getting a cheaper data plan on TP2. I am currently paying the exhorbitant $25/mo

Visionikz03 said:
I've heard of people getting full internet from just T-Zones. How exactly does that work cuz it's got me curious now.
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There are two different tzones. One is an old real unlimited internet plan that is grandfathered for some but for others has been replaced by web2go, a more expensive more limited option. The other is what they called their free prepaid data for a while -- that one limits you to a few sites + their store where you can purchase wallpaper and ringtones.
There was for a couple of years a workaround that opened up full internet on the prepaid free tzones, but AFAIK, TMo has completely shut those workarounds down. I've actually been meaning to try it out to make sure, but haven't gotten around to it.

3g on g2

I just bought a tmobile g2 off ebay but it won't. Let me use my 3g it says I have to upgrade my plan is there a way around this so I can use my orignal 3g or do I have to upgrade now. Thanks

ruffrider5956 said:
I just bought a tmobile g2 off ebay but it won't. Let me use my 3g it says I have to upgrade my plan is there a way around this so I can use my orignal 3g or do I have to upgrade now. Thanks
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You have to upgrade. Generally speaking, TMobile gives the first 12 hours of Android usage for free to "new" Android users to suck them in.
They do IMEI validation on their end periodically to make sure the phone you are using lines up with the plan you are on. Sucks, I know.

that's kinda weird. Before I bought the phone I talked with a Tmo rep and he said that if you already have a 3g plan but your device is 4g capable then it will just use 4g. I asked if it required a new sim though. He said no but gave me a new one because mine was a little beaten in from wear and tear. I suggest going in to a tmo store and asking if they can trouble shoot you if you're already paying for the standard "unlimited" data.

Ya already unlimited data and its cheaper then the 4g unlimited data so I don't want switch. I can't even 2g which sucks. Ill go talk to tmobile I hope I don't have to switch

I guess it really depends on which data plan you were on. I was "assuming" you were on something like the $10 Web2Go or another cheaper smartphone data plan - which are both technically "3G".
If you were already on an Android plan and then you shouldn't have to switch.

i talk to the rep i got him to keep my data plan the same price and switched over to android data plan i had an hd2 running android so i had to switch it. He said it takes 2 hours to kick in so im still waiting

well its been about five hours and all does is go to web2go and tell me i need to upgrade so im guessing im screwed and now its time fork up more money for 4g

ruffrider5956 said:
i talk to the rep i got him to keep my data plan the same price and switched over to android data plan i had an hd2 running android so i had to switch it. He said it takes 2 hours to kick in so im still waiting
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Why did you HAVE to switch it? I had an hd2 on android with the unlimited data and didn't have to switch my data plan when I got my g2.....

jsyi84 said:
Why did you HAVE to switch it? I had an hd2 on android with the unlimited data and didn't have to switch my data plan when I got my g2.....
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It depends on which data plan you were on with the HD2.
I was on the HD2 with $10 Web2Go (which worked) and had to switch.

You can do what I did and buy a AT&T android phone and unlock it and use your T-mobile Sim and still get data but you might not get their full 3G (something about being on different frequencies) but you will still get there data.
I did that but umm vice versa lol.
Since T-Mobile does not keep track of AT&T's IMEI's they can't charge you for having a droid because they don't know. At least that's what i did with AT&T

Opinions please: Will At&t flag the GNEX in their systems

Will At&t flag the Galaxy Nexus in their systems, now that Google Play sells it unlocked? Because i remember back i first got my N1 from the Google a few years back, At&t flagged it and required me to add a smartphone data plan.
Do u guys think this will happen now? I'm thinking of getting the Gnex from google play for my brother, but he doesnt want to have to pay for a real data plan
*the reason that I am concerned about this is because I feel like the Google Play version of the GNEX is a whole new version due to new software version as well as the lack of 900mhz UMTS band (Band III)*
opinions pls ( and facts if possible)

Yes, if you have a smartphone it will eventually get flagged and you will have to add a data plan, this is not limited to the GN.

jopherr said:
Will At&t flag the Galaxy Nexus in their systems, now that Google Play sells it unlocked? Because i remember back i first got my N1 from the Google a few years back, At&t flagged it and required me to add a smartphone data plan.
Do u guys think this will happen now? I'm thinking of getting the Gnex from google play for my brother, but he doesnt want to have to pay for a real data plan
*the reason that I am concerned about this is because I feel like the Google Play version of the GNEX is a whole new version due to new software version as well as the lack of 900mhz UMTS band (Band III)*
opinions pls ( and facts if possible)
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Its the same exact device that's been on sale in Europe for 5 months now. Its not different. Still an i9250.
As the previous poster said, its not limited to the GNex, they'll kick you off of a non-smartphone plan sooner or later. Its not hard to figure out. Just switch to an AT&T MVNO and save yourself the trouble.

martonikaj said:
Its the same exact device that's been on sale in Europe for 5 months now. Its not different. Still an i9250.
As the previous poster said, its not limited to the GNex, they'll kick you off of a non-smartphone plan sooner or later. Its not hard to figure out. Just switch to an AT&T MVNO and save yourself the trouble.
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what is a MVNO? it seems to be that the only phones that At&t will add a mandatory data plans to are the ones in their system & of course iPhones. there were plenty of people in the SGS2 thread that were using the international SGS2 on At&t without data plans. same with the international Galaxy note but thanks for the input xD

MVNO is like someone who resells AT&T service.
For example.... Boost Mobile and Virgin resell Sprint's service.

Straight talk uses at&t
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Yes. I got my gf a Samsung Vibrant to put in her ATT family plan. She had previously been using a feature phone that had Web access but no smartphone data plan. It was flagged the second month in.
She switched to Simple Mobile. A MVNO of T-Mobile. $40/month unlimited voice text 3g data.
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Disregard att, acquire straight talk.
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jopherr said:
Will At&t flag the Galaxy Nexus in their systems, now that Google Play sells it unlocked? Because i remember back i first got my N1 from the Google a few years back, At&t flagged it and required me to add a smartphone data plan.
Do u guys think this will happen now? I'm thinking of getting the Gnex from google play for my brother, but he doesnt want to have to pay for a real data plan
*the reason that I am concerned about this is because I feel like the Google Play version of the GNEX is a whole new version due to new software version as well as the lack of 900mhz UMTS band (Band III)*
opinions pls ( and facts if possible)
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Of course they will, it's a smart phone. If you want more control over your service, go with pre-paid from any number of vendors.
Also, JBQ verified it's the same pentaband hardware, just a marketing typo.

WiredPirate said:
Yes, if you have a smartphone it will eventually get flagged and you will have to add a data plan, this is not limited to the GN.
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My sister's vibrant hasn't been flagged for almost a year. This is because the Vibrant's IMEI range is not available to at&t.
The OP is asking whether we think AT&T will be given that imei range now that the GNEX is officially for sale, unlocked in the US, like the nexus one was. IE. Can I get away with dumb phone true unlimited data? This is never monitored or metered, (trust me my sister constantly tethers to 40 gigs of usage per month).
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martonikaj said:
Its the same exact device that's been on sale in Europe for 5 months now. Its not different. Still an i9250.
As the previous poster said, its not limited to the GNex, they'll kick you off of a non-smartphone plan sooner or later. Its not hard to figure out. Just switch to an AT&T MVNO and save yourself the trouble.
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Have been using my Galaxy Nexus on the AT&T $50 unlimited everything, including internet for dumbphones, GoPhone plan for quite a while now and my data still works. Still averaging 5mpbs or more. The good thing about it is that it's not metered. Last month, I used over 6gb of internet and have never been throttled or shut off.
I am concerned that Google will provide AT&T the IMEI numbers of all the Galaxy Nexus that they sell in the play store. If that's the case, then my days of $50 truly unlimited are over. I find that I don't use many minutes, so I might just go back to the $30 T-Mobile plan.

seriously?? I would have thought they would have been more strict about not having smartphones connected to the $50 unlimited everything plan.

Yeah, there are two ways to go about it. $15 internet for quick messaging phones on postpaid or $50 unlimited everything on prepaid.
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DOHCtor said:
Have been using my Galaxy Nexus on the AT&T $50 unlimited everything, including internet for dumbphones, GoPhone plan for quite a while now and my data still works. Still averaging 5mpbs or more. The good thing about it is that it's not metered. Last month, I used over 6gb of internet and have never been throttled or shut off.
I am concerned that Google will provide AT&T the IMEI numbers of all the Galaxy Nexus that they sell in the play store. If that's the case, then my days of $50 truly unlimited are over. I find that I don't use many minutes, so I might just go back to the $30 T-Mobile plan.
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Yes this was exactly what I'm asking about. :/ I have a feeling that Google might give the carriers the IMEI numbers of the gnex as to not piss them off. I doubt the carriers are happy with Google selling an unlocked phone that is interoperable with the GSM carriers in the US.(similar thing happened two years ago with the nexus one but that was two years ago n Google might be bolder about their reentry into the unlocked phones business)
I wanna keep my $10 data plan D:
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So, has anyone that just received the U.S. Galaxy Nexus test this out on AT&T dumphone plan yet?

My friend does it on his international galaxy nexus (uses a gophone sim with a 50/month prepaid), I'm thinking about doing it myself.

[INFO]AT&T Users Beware

Just wanted to give people a heads up on my horror story with AT&T. I don't want anyone else to wind up in my situation. I just received a message stating I had been charged in excess of $100 dollars in data charges and please call AT&T to prevent service disruptions or future charges.
Background: I have had unlimited Data since 2008 because I had an iPhone 3g. In the meantime I've used several Android devices. On the 9th of last month I decided I was ready for a new device. I did some searching and decided to get a Galaxy Note. I used it briefly until the GNex was announced by Google in the US. I decided to buy the GNex as well and return the device I was least satisfied with. After some use, I loved the LTE but decided I preferred the community behind the GNex and the AOSP roms. So on the 7th of this month I returned the Note before my 30 days.
Issue: The drama starts on the 7th. After returning my Note my unlimited data plan was dropped without telling me because I was no longer using an AT&T recognized smartphone. I was careful to ask in store if returning the Note would affect my unlimited data, and the salesperson said it would not. Since I no longer have a data plan, AT&T has been charging me $1 per megabyte. So in two days I have racked up over $250 dollars in data charges. The AT&T reps refuse to reactivate my Unlimited data until I put my SIM in (and presumably keep it in) an AT&T recognized smartphone. I discussed with the rep and she stated that I can use smartphone data on a non-AT&T smartphone if the system recognizes it. The Catch-22 here is that the system only recognizes AT&T sold devices. So now I have to put my SIM back in my old Infuse and contact the Rep again to have them reverse my charges and reactivate my unlimited data. I am now afraid to use the GNex for fear of losing my data again.
tl:dr: AT&T dropped my unlimited data because their system doesn't recognize the GNex as a compatible smartphone. They won't reactivate my data plan until my SIM is in an AT&T recognized smartphone.
Update: I got a better service rep today and she restored my Unlimited data and confirmed that using an unlocked device is allowed, but the combination of returning an AT&T device then picking up an unknown IMEI may be to blame. I got a verbal agreement to reverse the charges, but the rep was unable to do so until a bill with them is generated. So I will call back on my bill date to confirm.

Tell them its BS, as I've used Euro phones on AT&T for years and they never dropped my data.
Also, I've since left AT&T in December for Verizon, the network seems better/more stable, but the nexus has had voice quality issues for 5 months and they've been procrastinating on fixing it. (yay for xda, which has solved most of my issues)

VinceT3 said:
Tell them its BS, as I've used Euro phones on AT&T for years and they never dropped my data.
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What gets me is that this is clearly a customer service rep that messed me up. I had the SIM in the GNex prior to the 7th when I returned the Note. My data wasn't changed until after I returned the Note.
Also I had an N1 for over a year just after it was released. This never happened then. My suspicion is that I got a bad combo of a stupid rep and AT&T trying to crack down on users with unlimited plans.

I have at&t also. They are a bunch of money grubbing... well...
Here is your solution...
If this is your own line, itll still work, but is cheaper with a family plan.
Step one: Quit buying ATT Branded Phones. This is stupid, you pay more over the course of use. 30 bucks for 3 gigs? fuuuuck that.
Step two: get a IMEI From ANY Other non ATT Phone. Buy a 20 dollar junker off ebay. It HAS TO be a dumb phone. with a WAP Browser.
Step three: register that with ATT, tell them you want the wap data plan for your dumb phone. This is your primary and only phone as far as they are concerned. With a family plan, Unlimited WAP is 10 bucks. On your own, its 15.
Step four: wait a few days for your account to settle, or month, whenever your bill stabilizes. this is important. Dont make any more changes, as you can get hosed on price at this point.
Step five: Buy your GNEX. or Korean Galaxy Note. Or any other non ATT phone.
Step Six: Swap Sim's and setup the APN's if your rom does not come with them.
Step Seven: Enjoy your new unlimited data 10/15 dollar a month data plan on your smart phone.
a important note: Dont show any asshole at ATT your phone. Dont even mention it. Tell them you have a dumb phone. If they ask to do trouble shooting, play along. Dont do that ****. If they press for what phone you have, tell them you have a old ass Nokia. If they say your lying, tell em where to shove it.
I have 5 lines on my family plan. 1400 minutes. Unlimited messaging. Unlimited Data on all lines. 194 a month. And you get the "A list", free calls to any other network phone numbers you specify, up to 10. Needless to say, i hardly use my anytime. The only headache is getting the other idiots to pay me, even though its 38 bucks a person... peices of ****.
Have fun, dont be dumb with the ATT Reps. Make no mistake, No matter how smart you are, Stupidity will ALWAYS outsmart you.

I've never had this issue before. So what I assume happened is that the Rep cleared my IMEI on my account rather than reverting it to the one that was there before the Note.
I never had an issue when using my N1. I've never had an issue when using a dumbphone temporarily (when traveling or something like hiking where I don't want to risk damage) nor when testing my SIM in friend's phones. My guess is all other times AT&T account just used the IMEI on file, not the one it detects. If there is no IMEI on file it probably detects yours and then uses it.
Still, after I talk to the Rep tomorrow and hopefully get this cleared up I am sort of afraid to use my GNex again. I am seriously considering T-Mobile and seeing if I can get them to waive my ETF since I can't use my phone.

Also advise them they it is ILLEGAL for them to change your plan without your consent. They will correct the billing error and fix it for you. (My friend had a 6000 dollar bill for the same reason, they ate the bill as they should)

Just one of the many reasons I left AT&T 3 years ago and went to T-Mobile.

If you follow what i told you to do, you'll be a much happier ATT user... LOL
Forget the current IMEI on file. it does not matter. you need to update it to one that ATT does not have in thier database.
Trust me on this. Im a internet professional.

wyefye said:
If you follow what i told you to do, you'll be a much happier ATT user... LOL
Forget the current IMEI on file. it does not matter. you need to update it to one that ATT does not have in thier database.
Trust me on this. Im a internet professional.
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Well they need to have one on file. You simply had them add the dumbphone as their IMEI on file so that when you swapped your SIM you kept that data plan.
They tell me that IMEI is unrecgonized as well. Because of that they dropped my smartphone unlimited plan. I am not trying to go to the the $15 dumbphone plan because I want to be able to keep my unlimited data if I ever choose to go LTE. 5Gb of LTE for $30 before throttling is pretty amazing.

Well they need to have one on file. You simply had them add the dumbphone as their IMEI on file so that when you swapped your SIM you kept that data plan.
They tell me that IMEI is unrecgonized as well. Because of that they dropped my smartphone unlimited plan. I am not trying to go to the the $15 dumbphone plan because I want to be able to keep my unlimited data if I ever choose to go LTE. 5Gb of LTE for $30 before throttling is pretty amazing.
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What? you'll be transferring to a unlimited plan.
also, you realize that ATT 4G is just HSPA+, right? Everyone gets this already. they just changed the speed the 3G runs at. Plenty of documents sources on this. This is the EXACT reason ATT wanted to buy T-mobile; they have the 4G LTE Spectrum for GSM - Registered to them. In the Buyout, ATT would have acquired it, and Charged us higher prices... for upgrades... though the infrastructure already existed.
If you want REAL 4G, go for VZ.
Unrecognized is not the same as "Unsupported". you dont need a recognized phone to use thier "4G" services. You do need a recognized phone for them to tick that checkbox so you can PRETEND you have 4G, and pay more for the facade.
Your Choice.
p.s. 30 bucks for 5gb is NOT Amazing. its a ****ing scam.
OCZ RevoDrive SSD 960GB @ $3,149(most expensive SSD currently)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227742
$3.2 a GB.
ATT 5GB
$8 a GB
8 bucks a GB for false 4G? Yeah.....

The issue started when you purchased an at&t Mobility branded Galaxy Note, that IMEI became associated with your account and the DATA plan became associated to that IMEI (this is the key).
If you had simply removed the SIM from the Galaxy Note (and NOT RETURNED IT), placed it into your GNex there would not have been any issues as at&t's network could care less as you had a DATA plan and the GNex comes back as unknown to at&t's internal IMEI database.
It was the act of returning the device (which you have every right to do and I would have done the same) and not replacing it with another branded device that caused your DATA plan to fall off your account. Essentially, when you returned your NOTE, the computer saw the device removed from your account and since another device was not added to your account, the system dumped your DATA plan because nothing was re-attached to the account. If the GNex was recognized internally by at&t's systems and that IMEI was associated as a smartphone on your account, your DATA plan would have been preserved.
I had a similar issue and it took a bunch of labor on my part to fix the issue including speaking with an Engineer at at&t Mobility who had to work within the system to re-add my DATA plan without attaching an at&t Mobility branded device.
Eventually he was able to get things corrected as best I understand it, he had to find my device in the "global database" and then pull it into at&t's internal database and code it as a smartphone so that the system would re-attach my DATA plan. However, he said that some non-carrier branded smartphones do show up in at&t's internal database, but it is up to a certain department to add them and apparently that department selectively chooses devices.
I am not sure what to say, I have the luxury of working for an employer who has a personal at&t Mobility Corp Sales Rep who we can call when things go pear shaped and whose general job is to ensure that we are happy with at&t. When I had my DATA plan disappear she cut through the red tape and got me in contact with correct people to fix the issue.
I had tried to deal with normal CS at first and that was totally useless, not that I am surprised, normal CS is only capable of dealing with a certain select issues, not back end engineering which requires a different skill set and an understanding of how the system functions as a whole (this generally requires somebody with a specialized degree) to fix more complicated tasks.
Dan

wyefye said:
What? you'll be transferring to a unlimited plan.
also, you realize that ATT 4G is just HSPA+, right? Everyone gets this already. they just changed the speed the 3G runs at. Plenty of documents sources on this. This is the EXACT reason ATT wanted to buy T-mobile; they have the 4G LTE Spectrum for GSM - Registered to them. In the Buyout, ATT would have acquired it, and Charged us higher prices... for upgrades... though the infrastructure already existed.
If you want REAL 4G, go for VZ.
Unrecognized is not the same as "Unsupported". you dont need a recognized phone to use thier "4G" services. You do need a recognized phone for them to tick that checkbox so you can PRETEND you have 4G, and pay more for the facade.
Your Choice.
p.s. 30 bucks for 5gb is NOT Amazing. its a ****ing scam.
OCZ RevoDrive SSD 960GB @ $3,149(most expensive SSD currently)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227742
$3.2 a GB.
ATT 5GB
$8 a GB
8 bucks a GB for false 4G? Yeah.....
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AT&T is deploying (and is fairly far along) an LTE network. IDK what speeds are like, but it is definitely not the same as their HSPA+ network.

AT&T is deploying (and is fairly far along) an LTE network. IDK what speeds are like, but it is definitely not the same as their HSPA+ network.
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I believe you, but... when i look at ATT's att.com/network page, and see advertised LTE HSPA+ 4G, im far from inspired to switch.

GSM standards allow any GSM device on any GSM network. End of story.
Contact a lawyer and watch AT&T squirm. They are everything wrong with the wireless industry and overdue for a reality check.
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At&t sucks! I'll pay any other carrier double before I ever send At&t a check again. You can get those fees waved, you just have to talk to the right person. If you get someone stuck on no just hang up and call back. If its easier on you to put your sim in your other phone and then swap it back to the GN after your data plan is restored than you should do that.

Its easier to call retentions. If they can't fix it, they'll find somebody who can. Usually.
let it be.

wyefye said:
I have at&t also. They are a bunch of money grubbing... well...
Here is your solution...
If this is your own line, itll still work, but is cheaper with a family plan.
Step one: Quit buying ATT Branded Phones. This is stupid, you pay more over the course of use. 30 bucks for 3 gigs? fuuuuck that.
Step two: get a IMEI From ANY Other non ATT Phone. Buy a 20 dollar junker off ebay. It HAS TO be a dumb phone. with a WAP Browser.
Step three: register that with ATT, tell them you want the wap data plan for your dumb phone. This is your primary and only phone as far as they are concerned. With a family plan, Unlimited WAP is 10 bucks. On your own, its 15.
Step four: wait a few days for your account to settle, or month, whenever your bill stabilizes. this is important. Dont make any more changes, as you can get hosed on price at this point.
Step five: Buy your GNEX. or Korean Galaxy Note. Or any other non ATT phone.
Step Six: Swap Sim's and setup the APN's if your rom does not come with them.
Step Seven: Enjoy your new unlimited data 10/15 dollar a month data plan on your smart phone.
a important note: Dont show any asshole at ATT your phone. Dont even mention it. Tell them you have a dumb phone. If they ask to do trouble shooting, play along. Dont do that ****. If they press for what phone you have, tell them you have a old ass Nokia. If they say your lying, tell em where to shove it.
I have 5 lines on my family plan. 1400 minutes. Unlimited messaging. Unlimited Data on all lines. 194 a month. And you get the "A list", free calls to any other network phone numbers you specify, up to 10. Needless to say, i hardly use my anytime. The only headache is getting the other idiots to pay me, even though its 38 bucks a person... peices of ****.
Have fun, dont be dumb with the ATT Reps. Make no mistake, No matter how smart you are, Stupidity will ALWAYS outsmart you.
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I did EXACTLY this when I bought my Nokia 5800 xpressmusic and my Nokia C6-01.. works like a charm and the speeds are the same.

wyefye said:
What? you'll be transferring to a unlimited plan.
also, you realize that ATT 4G is just HSPA+, right? Everyone gets this already. they just changed the speed the 3G runs at. Plenty of documents sources on this. This is the EXACT reason ATT wanted to buy T-mobile; they have the 4G LTE Spectrum for GSM - Registered to them. In the Buyout, ATT would have acquired it, and Charged us higher prices... for upgrades... though the infrastructure already existed.
If you want REAL 4G, go for VZ.
Unrecognized is not the same as "Unsupported". you dont need a recognized phone to use thier "4G" services. You do need a recognized phone for them to tick that checkbox so you can PRETEND you have 4G, and pay more for the facade.
Your Choice.
p.s. 30 bucks for 5gb is NOT Amazing. its a ****ing scam.
OCZ RevoDrive SSD 960GB @ $3,149(most expensive SSD currently)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227742
$3.2 a GB.
ATT 5GB
$8 a GB
8 bucks a GB for false 4G? Yeah.....
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This is false information. AT&T LTE exists and is very real. HSPA+ and LTE are very different on AT&T. With my Infuse and GNex (and the Note when not in LTE) I get about 5-7Mbps. My area has LTE and when in LTE coverage on the Note I was regularly getting 35Mbps or higher. My highest speed was 52Mbps.
Also comparing the cost of storage on an SSD to the cost of internet bandwidth is a nonsense comparison. Solid state storage should always be cheaper than data transfer. Why didn't you compare a 500Gb platter? That should run you about $0.10 per gigabyte. And you've missed the mark on the AT&T pricing we are discussing. The LTE unlimited still costs $30 and throttles at 5Gb. So that is actually $6 per Gb unthrottled. Try comparing it to home internet providers maybe.

wyefye said:
What? you'll be transferring to a unlimited plan.
also, you realize that ATT 4G is just HSPA+, right? Everyone gets this already. they just changed the speed the 3G runs at. Plenty of documents sources on this. This is the EXACT reason ATT wanted to buy T-mobile; they have the 4G LTE Spectrum for GSM - Registered to them. In the Buyout, ATT would have acquired it, and Charged us higher prices... for upgrades... though the infrastructure already existed.
If you want REAL 4G, go for VZ.
Unrecognized is not the same as "Unsupported". you dont need a recognized phone to use thier "4G" services. You do need a recognized phone for them to tick that checkbox so you can PRETEND you have 4G, and pay more for the facade.
Your Choice.
p.s. 30 bucks for 5gb is NOT Amazing. its a ****ing scam.
OCZ RevoDrive SSD 960GB @ $3,149(most expensive SSD currently)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227742
$3.2 a GB.
ATT 5GB
$8 a GB
8 bucks a GB for false 4G? Yeah.....
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AT&T 4G LTE is much faster than Verizon 4G LTE in my experience. (I have both)

This is false information. AT&T LTE exists and is very real. HSPA+ and LTE are very different on AT&T. With my Infuse and GNex (and the Note when not in LTE) I get about 5-7Mbps. My area has LTE and when in LTE coverage on the Note I was regularly getting 35Mbps or higher. My highest speed was 52Mbps.
Also comparing the cost of storage on an SSD to the cost of internet bandwidth is a nonsense comparison. Solid state storage should always be cheaper than data transfer. Why didn't you compare a 500Gb platter? That should run you about $1 per gigabyte. And you've missed the mark on the AT&T pricing we are discussing. The LTE unlimited still costs $30 and throttles at 5Gb. So that is actually $6 per Gb unthrottled. Try comparing it to home internet providers maybe.
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Your right, it is "Real", and does "Exist". Congrats. Not all of us live in the city, though.
I chose a SSD simply because the platter device is cheaper, for one. two, Lets compare a strictly home based internet data plan, to price per GB on ATT. Lets go with Comcast XFINITY since their similar in throttling and whatnot.
50meg is 114 a month, then add taxes and fees.
the month of May is 2,678,400 seconds...
convert 50mbps to MB a second is 6.25 MB/s
2,678,400 Seconds x 6.25MB/s
16,740,000 MB in the month...
16,347.6562 GB in a month...
15.964508 TB in a month...(just for scale)
Total cost per GB of home internet provided you are fully maxed out and no throttling....
0.0069622572370832 cents per GB.
Compared to ATT's...
$8 dollars per GB?!?! (op's 5BG)
But... lets not forget operating costs, upgrade fees, costs of network towers... and all that expensive throttling equipment. needs to be payed for somehow, right?
dont forget how much the CEO's Pockets cost!
Also, in reality, you cant compare HD's or Home internet... they are not the same technology....

rogers 6gb superplan

Any canadian customers should jump all over this!!
unlimited canadawide my10
200 daytime mins
free evenings after 6 and weekends
6gb of data
unlimited texting

Yup jumped onto it as soon as I saw the offer, I already had all that at the same price but only 1GB.

crixley said:
Any canadian customers should jump all over this!!
unlimited canadawide my10
200 daytime mins
free evenings after 6 and weekends
6gb of data
unlimited texting
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How much?
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^^^ This
None of that means anything with no price.
I'm curious as I have almost exactly the same plan on Bell right now, with a few other added goodies but less data (still way more than I use though)

speedyink said:
^^^ This
None of that means anything with no price.
I'm curious as I have almost exactly the same plan on Bell right now, with a few other added goodies but less data (still way more than I use though)
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Its 60$. I read Bell and virgin followed up with their own 6gb plans here's a link with the bell/virgin info.
http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/07/18/virgin-rolls-out-new-6gb-60month-plan/

I'm lucky with bell. I have a plan for a few years I upgrade from a normal cellphone e an to a smart phone. My old plan had unlimited internet. I have the 6 gb plan right now. But they forgot to take my other unlimited plan. So I have basically a unlimited data plan including tethering. I thanks bell
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crixley said:
Any canadian customers should jump all over this!!
unlimited canadawide my10
200 daytime mins
free evenings after 6 and weekends
6gb of data
unlimited texting
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does it have caller ID?
I have a standard 200min+unlimited incoming calls+6gb+unlimited text +5pm evenings and weekends for the same price (60).
So it's basically my10 vs free incoming.

Why even bother with Rogers?
For 21$ more with fido I have
UNLIMITED incoming outgoing 24/7 35$
UNLIMITED across canada 24/7 I could be in any city and call any city in Canada for FREE 0$
UNLIMITED calling to the united states 24/7 from any city in canada but not the other way around 15$
UNLIMITED sms
UNLIMITED mms
6 GIGS of data 30$
Call diplay
Call forwarding and what have you
BILLED BY THE SECOND (not that it matters)
Unless you have an Lte handset I don't know why you're messing with rogers
and Unless you live behind gods back or in a bunker there's no reason to mess with Bell or Telus
Just buy the handset you want unlock it Flash whatever you want on it and come into the light.

This is awesome timing my contract is just ending with fido.
(Leaving them due to horrible customer service plus they are dropping per second billing) and Now Rogers will be bringing LTE to my area.
I just bought an Unlocked Galaxy Nexus. Usually when you sign up for a new contract you get to subsidize a phone but considering what is on the market right now I'd rather save the subsidy for a later date (2013).
Does any one know if this is possible or does it require a new 3 year commitment?
Is this plan only available on a 3year contract?

eksdee905 said:
This is awesome timing my contract is just ending with fido.
(Leaving them due to horrible customer service plus they are dropping per second billing) and Now Rogers will be bringing LTE to my area.
I just bought an Unlocked Galaxy Nexus. Usually when you sign up for a new contract you get to subsidize a phone but considering what is on the market right now I'd rather save the subsidy for a later date (2013).
Does any one know if this is possible or does it require a new 3 year commitment?
Is this plan only available on a 3year contract?
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Why the hell would billing by the second matter if everything is UNLIMITED?
You're getting LTE with rogers but you have a galaxy nexus with no LTE I presume
you should should stay with fido after your contract is done get the best deal you can when your contract is over they have to keep charging you the same thing. In a year or so when LTE is implemented in your area and you find an LTE phone worth dropping the gnex for then and only then Jump ship by all means. Don't worry about the deal still being around something better will come along.:good:

mrnovanova said:
Unless you have an Lte handset I don't know why you're messing with rogers
and Unless you live behind gods back or in a bunker there's no reason to mess with Bell or Telus
Just buy the handset you want unlock it Flash whatever you want on it and come into the light.
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I'm with Bell because Rogers reps repeatedly lied to me just to get me off the phone. And by repeatedly I mean a solid 3 months of bull****, costing me lots of money that I never got back, and time I really could have spent more productive. Eventually I bailed and refused to go back to that sadistic company. Fido being owned by Rogers can go f*** themselves as well. Also they screwed my younger brother out of his $200 deposit, which leads me to believe the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Virgin has also come out with a 6GB plan.
300
Anytime Minutes
UNLIMITED
Weekends & Early Evenings from 5pm
6 GB
Data Usage
Additional data is only $10/GB
limited time offer
UNLIMITED
Canada, U.S., & International Text and Pic Messaging from Canada
UNLIMITED
Incoming Calls
The only thing missing is Canada wide Calling even if it was for My5 or whatever i was always getting dinged a few bux for calling some one just outside the city...
IMO the ways traffic is networked nowdays there really isnt and such thing as long distance anymore.. No switch boards to patch you through to another carriers telephone lines. Its just a cash grab.

Rogers had this deal before also, I was able to get mine for 50/month. 6GB is hard to fill up though so its a good deal.

I jumped on this.
I hate Rogers, but I'm stuck with them due to contract and I have come to the conclusion that all the providers suck.
But this plan was IDENTICAL to the plan I was already on with the exception of the data limit. I was on a 1GB plan. So now I am bumped up to 6GB along with everything else.
I also got a value pack which includes Call display, some additional minutes and txts (which are useless since its unlimited incoming and outgoing anyway), call forwarding, enhanced voice mail, ringbacks, and something else. I have a credit for all the value packs so I don't actually pay for them.
So all that for $60 I am pretty happy.
Btw, even though the GNex is not LTE you can still get it. I was on a 3G plan and the rep told me (we will see for sure) that this plan will update me to 4G connection speeds. So if you were like me and still on 3G plan this is definitely worth it imo.
--- Now I am just keeping my fingers crossed that the rep didn't lie to me and everything is as he claimed it would be. Been screwed in the past so I had him repeat everything to me twice haha

bourne-nolonger said:
I jumped on this.
I hate Rogers, but I'm stuck with them due to contract and I have come to the conclusion that all the providers suck.
But this plan was IDENTICAL to the plan I was already on with the exception of the data limit. I was on a 1GB plan. So now I am bumped up to 6GB along with everything else.
I also got a value pack which includes Call display, some additional minutes and txts (which are useless since its unlimited incoming and outgoing anyway), call forwarding, enhanced voice mail, ringbacks, and something else. I have a credit for all the value packs so I don't actually pay for them.
So all that for $60 I am pretty happy.
Btw, even though the GNex is not LTE you can still get it. I was on a 3G plan and the rep told me (we will see for sure) that this plan will update me to 4G connection speeds. So if you were like me and still on 3G plan this is definitely worth it imo.
--- Now I am just keeping my fingers crossed that the rep didn't lie to me and everything is as he claimed it would be. Been screwed in the past so I had him repeat everything to me twice haha
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The GNex isn't capable of LTE so no matter what you will not be able to get LTE speeds. The radio chip in the phone doesn't support it in Canada. If that's what your wondering?
*Edit* - And technically the GNex is 21Mbps which is classified as 4GHSPA so you already have 4G. 3G or 'Edge' on Rogers is anything below 14Mbps. LTE is anything above 42Mbps.

Travisf said:
The GNex isn't capable of LTE so no matter what you will not be able to get LTE speeds. The radio chip in the phone doesn't support it in Canada. If that's what your wondering?
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I know that the gnex isn't compatible with LTE. But should work the 4G no?
I get so bloody confused by all the different networks now
Hmm well it will be interesting to see if there is any difference. Even if there isn't I'm still happy to have the 6gb. Thanks for clearing that up.
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you know, I'm with fido and i'm paying 33.90 a month for unlimited incoming calls, unlimited local and international texts, unlimited evenings and weekends starting at 7pm and i get 200 mins per month.
Sometimes I feel like I'm getting ripped off but in the end; that's what it was then and no other company was better then.
NOW I've been looking at different carrier contract because my girlfriend is due for a renewal soon and rogers definately has the best plans for the best prices. ALSO they have the best reception in the city. You can be in a basement and it'll work; with BELL forget about it, you wont even get reception on the top room of your house.
Personally, I think you guys are crazy to pay so much money just to have portable internet. I use straight up wi-fi at home and thats itttt. I am in no need for data. But everyone has different uses for it i guess

MRsf27 said:
you know, I'm with fido and i'm paying 33.90 a month for unlimited incoming calls, unlimited local and international texts, unlimited evenings and weekends starting at 7pm and i get 200 mins per month.
Sometimes I feel like I'm getting ripped off but in the end; that's what it was then and no other company was better then.
NOW I've been looking at different carrier contract because my girlfriend is due for a renewal soon and rogers definately has the best plans for the best prices. ALSO they have the best reception in the city. You can be in a basement and it'll work; with BELL forget about it, you wont even get reception on the top room of your house.
Personally, I think you guys are crazy to pay so much money just to have portable internet. I use straight up wi-fi at home and thats itttt. I am in no need for data. But everyone has different uses for it i guess
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I live in a basement apartment in Thornhill and my reception is horrible. You'd swear the walls were pure lead. I have to put my phone on the Window sill just to get two bars which are sketchy at best.
Having data is nice, special when your in a pinch and your lost or something. Good for work as well.
But like you said everyone is different
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bourne-nolonger said:
I live in a basement apartment in Thornhill and my reception is horrible. You'd swear the walls were pure lead. I have to put my phone on the Window sill just to get two bars which are sketchy at best.
Having data is nice, special when your in a pinch and your lost or something. Good for work as well.
But like you said everyone is different
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are you with BELL? just curious cause you said your reception is terrible but didnt state what carrier your with

Mobilicity > big 3
Brb getting unlimited talk text and data for $23 (you can't get this plan anymore)
But you could still get all this for like $35
Oh also Mobilicity is increasing their network speed this year and expanding like crazy, you all should switch to a carrier that doesn't rip you off and lock you in contracts
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