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Need app to disable APN/save battery

I really like the idea of disabling the phone's APNs when it's just sitting idle to save battery. Unfortunately I've not found an app that can do this reliably.
I first tried Juice Defender/Ultimate Juice which is so configurable that I thought I'd hit a winner. It's (supposed) ability to automatically enable the APN for a short period every so often seemed like the perfect balance of powersaving/data syncing.
Unfortunately it didn't work out this way and messed up my APNs and internet access completely, even after uninstalling (until after a few reboots).
I tried Sleepy Battery just today. Again, the app didn't work as promised - it didn't re-enable the APN after the phone woke up, leaving me with no internet. Again, this app had made a change to my APN that I had to go back in and correct, after I had uninstalled it.
Has anyone got any advice, or can recommend an app that actually works for this use?

I personally use use APNdroid, it allows to switch 3g on and off and has a widget with it. It doesn't automatically turn the 3g on or off depending on your use, that's something you'd have to do yourself...
Hope that helps!

Try sleepy battery, juice defender, or another app I think it's called sweet dreams.

setspeed said:
I really like the idea of disabling the phone's APNs when it's just sitting idle to save battery. Unfortunately I've not found an app that can do this reliably.
I first tried Juice Defender/Ultimate Juice which is so configurable that I thought I'd hit a winner. It's (supposed) ability to automatically enable the APN for a short period every so often seemed like the perfect balance of powersaving/data syncing.
Unfortunately it didn't work out this way and messed up my APNs and internet access completely, even after uninstalling (until after a few reboots).
I tried Sleepy Battery just today. Again, the app didn't work as promised - it didn't re-enable the APN after the phone woke up, leaving me with no internet. Again, this app had made a change to my APN that I had to go back in and correct, after I had uninstalled it.
Has anyone got any advice, or can recommend an app that actually works for this use?
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Thats really strange, I've had great results from JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice. It turns APNs off when in standby and turns them on for 15 seconds every 5mins to allow everything to sync. Really can't fault it.
I'd maybe suggest giving it another go? I believe there's an update coming soon from the developer to sort out some issues with the Desire. This might solve your issue.
Not come across any other app's that do what JuiceDefender does as well as it does.

Ramedge said:
Thats really strange, I've had great results from JuiceDefender/UltimateJuice. It turns APNs off when in standby and turns them on for 15 seconds every 5mins to allow everything to sync. Really can't fault it.
I'd maybe suggest giving it another go? I believe there's an update coming soon from the developer to sort out some issues with the Desire. This might solve your issue.
Not come across any app's that do what JuiceDefender does as well as it does.
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I really wanted to like Juice Defender. Hopefully the update will help, so I'll wait a while for that.
In the meantime I'll give APNDroid and Sweet Dreams a try. Thanks guys

I would recommend getting the juicedefender and ultimatejuice is well worth the purchase! juiceplotter is also a great free add on. They will save you on battery and will automatically control your apn and wifi.

Just a quick question on JuiceDefender actually. I just bought UltimateJuice to try, love all the options it gives you. But, my question is this...
I have my apps (Facebook and the likes) set to sync once every 2 hours. I also have UltimateJuice set up to turn APN on once every 2 hours to allow syncing. Will these two points in time automatically sync up with each other? I can just see Facebook trying to update at 14:00, 16:00, 18:00 etc while UltimateJuice turns APN on at 15:00, 17:00, 19:00 etc.
Hopefully not though. Anybody know? Thanks.

aljwatson69 said:
Just a quick question on JuiceDefender actually. I just bought UltimateJuice to try, love all the options it gives you. But, my question is this...
I have my apps (Facebook and the likes) set to sync once every 2 hours. I also have UltimateJuice set up to turn APN on once every 2 hours to allow syncing. Will these two points in time automatically sync up with each other? I can just see Facebook trying to update at 14:00, 16:00, 18:00 etc while UltimateJuice turns APN on at 15:00, 17:00, 19:00 etc.
Hopefully not though. Anybody know? Thanks.
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I have wondered this, I if you've only got APN turning on every 2 hours you might as well set Facebook to sync every 2-3minutes because, my guess is that it won't attempt to sync if there is no data connection.

Hmm, possibly. I've set Juice to turn data on once an hour. I'll leave it like that for tomorrow and see how it goes. It currently claims to be extending my batter life by 1.88x, and if that remains consistent and it actually can do that then I'll be very impressed.

I've now tried APNDroid and I have to admit it seems like it does save some juice. But I forget to turn it off/enable my APNs frequently, and therefore don't get my data coming through for long periods. I need an automatic app.
Sweets Dreams does not fit the usage I want the app for.
So have gone back and tried Juice Defender again for today, and it seems to be working ok this time round. However it reports that it's multiplied my battery life by 1.95, but that is a complete load of rubbish. My phone was unplugged literally 12hrs ago, and I'm now down to 14% battery.
My use of the phone isn't excessive - searched the Market for maybe 5-10min, installed 3 apps, and uninstalled about 4 apps. Browsed internet for maybe 15min total. Sent and received 12 text messages each way. A few emails have come in that I've dealt with. No gaming action at all, no calls, wifi is completely disabled, I had just a couple of widgets updating infrequently (every few hrs) but I got rid of them early this evening.
What do I have to do to get some sort of half-decent battery life out of this thing?

sometimes u want to have data syncs when the phone sleeps, for example twitter if you have new mentions. I used quick settings (http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.bwx.bequick)
long press on the search button brings this up so you can change it quick.
You could change the sync frequencies to longer gap inbetween updates to improve battery life. I turn on my APN the entire day and I still get about avg 14hrs of usage

I use Data on Demand from the market. It's simples! Just turns data off when the phone is asleep. Doubles the battery life!
Sent from my HTC Desire

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AMoosa said:
I use Data on Demand from the market. It's simples! Just turns data off when the phone is asleep. Doubles the battery life!
Sent from my HTC Desire
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I like it! simples indeed!

I use juice defender/ultimate. It works incredibly well and I can now easily get 2 days use. I have a rooted Desire with MCRr3.
Without this software I stuggled to get 1 day.

After my first couple of days with UltimateJuice I must say I'm pretty impressed. Syncing seems to work fine with the schedule I have set up. I have it turning APS off at night, having it on when I have the screen turned on, and off when the screen is off and then turning back on to sync everything once an hour. Greatly improved battery life so far.

Doubled battery life - but there's a down side

there is a setting under settings / wireless and networks / mobile networks that says "enable always on mobile data"
Switching this to off about doubled my battery life and everything still seemed to work okay as far as data goes. All my apps worked including things that check or update periodically in the background - so I'm not sure what this feature does.
The only downside is that the phone would crash periodically in areas with poor reception. It would go back to the sprint boot animation and come up after a minute and the uptime would not be reset.
Imconvinced part of the battery life problem is due ton inefficient use of data, but I'm wondering what can be done about it without sacrificing stability. Ahylne else have a similar experience or willing to try it out or have more information?

Trying this out, seeing what it effects it has on my normally used apps. So far (first 20 minutes of doing it) everything seems to run fine. I would guess this causes the phone to "hibernate" the 3g radio whilst locked.

I started doing this on Hero and continue to do it on the Evo. The biggest issue is that if you are using pandora (or similar app), it causes problems when the phone goes to sleep.
The setting stops your 3g connection when the screen goes to sleep. This prevents the phone from updating email, twitter or whatever else you use. As soon as you turn the screen on, it turns on 3g, downloads your email etc.
I check my phone often enough (for the time or whatever) that I don't mind not getting my email immediately (it downloads when I turn the screen on).
This has saves a ton of battery life. The only time I enable always on mobile network is to listen to pandora. I have done this since day 1 and have had no issues.

I tried this last week and it made a massive difference in battery life. I turned it back on though because I do like my phone to download things while it is idle. I also don't want to get used to the improved battery life just to have to switch it back later.

i dont know if any of you have heard of juice defender what it does the same thing pretty much. with a few exceptions. whereby you can set the program up to allow your phone to take data even if your screen is off at a certain duration of time, then it will go back to sleep.
thats a really simple explanation of what the app does. if anyone of you does decide to use the app let me know i can share my settings more specifically. I have increases my battery life by 87% and i have have 0 problems.

I have this option unchecked and not only has my battery life improved, but I don't notice any performance or stability issues.
Also, my data continues to download in the background as normal (regardless of whether the screen is on or off). I have Facebook and Twitter set to download data every so often and it continues to do so. Even Google Voice will notify me of messages even if the screen is off.
I think what this option does is, when checked, makes the radio work hard to find and keep a data connection (especially in low signal areas). I notice that with the option unchecked, my data connection drops a bit more often than with it on. I don't mind that though seeing that the data connection simply reconnects automatically and almost instantly.

thanks!
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Would you all mind doing an experiment for me? Turn this option off (so data is not constantly on) and turn your screen on and put it in your microwave so it loses signal*.
Watch it and see if it crashes. I suspect something about this setting being off is causing the phone to crash when it loses its cell connection momentarily.
*Don't turn on your microwave.

Okay so after more research I'm pretty sure the main instigator of poor battery life is the data connection constantly going wild. According to SystemPanel my phone hangs out doing nothing downloading at 100-200Kbps for large amounts of time. Not sure what it's downloading.
To find out what apps were causing this I used Spare Parts and saw this:
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So a process with the PID of "0" is what is using most of the data connection, followed by UID 10011 which is contact/calendar/mail sync. I can click through to 10011 and get details, but if I try to click on PID "0" I get a force close.
There is also another preference under Accounts & Sync for "background data" and "auto-sync." I'm not sure what the difference is between this background data setting and the one in wireless & networks that says "enable always-on mobile data." Anyone have any thoughts on that?
Also interesting is what was happening when I had always on data disabled:
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You can see where my phone was crashing but look at my battery life before and after the crash. It looks like it has dipped significantly. Also, the crashes only lasted a minute while the phone rebooted, not nearly as long as what was recorded here - so it's possible something was going on with the battery life before the phone crashed.

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mastermayhm069 said:
i dont know if any of you have heard of juice defender what it does the same thing pretty much. with a few exceptions. whereby you can set the program up to allow your phone to take data even if your screen is off at a certain duration of time, then it will go back to sleep.
thats a really simple explanation of what the app does. if anyone of you does decide to use the app let me know i can share my settings more specifically. I have increases my battery life by 87% and i have have 0 problems.
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Could you please post you settings that you use with Juice Defender. Also, please post any suggestions about Juice Defender and Ultimate Juice.
Thanks, John.........

mastermayhm069 said:
i dont know if any of you have heard of juice defender what it does the same thing pretty much. with a few exceptions. whereby you can set the program up to allow your phone to take data even if your screen is off at a certain duration of time, then it will go back to sleep.
thats a really simple explanation of what the app does. if anyone of you does decide to use the app let me know i can share my settings more specifically. I have increases my battery life by 87% and i have have 0 problems.
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I swore Juice Defender only works with GSM and not CDMA.
It even say this when you go to download the app. Although I did just google it an apparently people have it going on the Motorola Droid rooted.
Who with Android experience wants to prove this?

OMGWTF_BBQ said:
I swore Juice Defender only works with GSM and not CDMA.
It even say this when you go to download the app. Although I did just google it an apparently people have it going on the Motorola Droid rooted.
Who with Android experience wants to prove this?
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+1 I thought this was the case too. i unchecked the data option. It's been a full day and no reboots

I'm running Juice Defender today and my battery life seems even worse. I'm talking 20-25% drop per hour.
SOMETHING is wrong here.

prjkthack said:
I have this option unchecked and not only has my battery life improved, but I don't notice any performance or stability issues.
Also, my data continues to download in the background as normal (regardless of whether the screen is on or off). I have Facebook and Twitter set to download data every so often and it continues to do so. Even Google Voice will notify me of messages even if the screen is off.
I think what this option does is, when checked, makes the radio work hard to find and keep a data connection (especially in low signal areas). I notice that with the option unchecked, my data connection drops a bit more often than with it on. I don't mind that though seeing that the data connection simply reconnects automatically and almost instantly.
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The option is not meant to enable/disable applications from using the data connection when the screen is off, so applications should be able to continue updating.
What the option is meant to do is to determine whether your phone should maintain data connectivity all the time, even when there are no apps using data. Unchecking the option means that when an app needs data, it must first connect, then make its request. This makes it take a little longer (or maybe a lot longer for 4G which seems to take longer to initialize a connection).

[Q] Battery starts draining at exactly 5am.

I started using JuicePlotter yesterday, and noticed that at night my battery barely drains, if at all (hooray for setcpu!). Until exactly 5am when it starts draining heavily at a steady rate. I've done all of the obvious stuff (I think), like making sure I have nothing set to begin syncing at that time, but I can't seem to pin it down.
Does anyone know of a way to find out what's turning on at 5am and draining the battery?

Do you have an Exchange sync setup?
If you do you may want to check and see if your Peak times start at 5AM. If so you may want to set it to update less frequently.

Does JuiceDefender run on a schedule and keep 3G off until 5am?

Thanks for the suggestions guys
I have exchange set up, but its set to "as items arrive" for both peak and non-peak hours (which is set to 8am anyway - yeah, being on call 24/7 sucks).
I'm also not using any kind of timing app like juice defender to schedule anything.
One wierd thing I noticed that may be tied to this, is that certain apps like twitdroyd and fb update immediately when I open the apps, even though they're set to refresh manually, and not to update when I open the apps. Still trying to figure that one out.

Night mode is enabled from 2 am to 5 am. Depending on your settings, Data/3G/Wifi are disabled between those times.

nslouie said:
Night mode is enabled from 2 am to 5 am. Depending on your settings, Data/3G/Wifi are disabled between those times.
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This sounds promising - can you tell me how to check any night mode settings? (searching turns up nada)

fachadick said:
This sounds promising - can you tell me how to check any night mode settings? (searching turns up nada)
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He is referring to JuiceDefender, I bet. I would guess a lot of people who use JuicePlotter also use JuiceDefender. It does exactly as he described: turns data off from 2am to 5am. I use it, and it does help. It also keeps data off when the screen is off during the rest of the day, except for a quick check every so often.

hankbear said:
He is referring to JuiceDefender, I bet. I would guess a lot of people who use JuicePlotter also use JuiceDefender. It does exactly as he described: turns data off from 2am to 5am. I use it, and it does help. It also keeps data off when the screen is off during the rest of the day, except for a quick check every so often.
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rats - I was hoping he was referring to something in regular settings. I'm not using JuiceDefender, or anything similar.

well if you do have it setup for everything to be off between 2 - 5 then wouldn't that make sense that as soon as 5 hit your apps will start syncing even Google apps as they have been trying to sync that whole time and just started queuing up and finally your radios turned back on. I have not used juice yet so i do not know much about it just throwing in some pennies.
One other thing the refresh manually is only for when the app is closed as soon as that app opens its going to sync with its servers. When you set it to manual then that means when you open the app you manually refreshed it and the phone did not do that while idle or you were busy on some other app. Its like twitter for desktops if you set your refresh manually then while the app is open it will not refresh until you hit refresh

fachadick said:
rats - I was hoping he was referring to something in regular settings. I'm not using JuiceDefender, or anything similar.
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One thought: Do you have a good signal in the spot where your phone sits at 5am? A bad signal is the best way to drain a battery fast. A friend's house has an awful Sprint signal, and my battery will drain in four or five hours there, even with no use, whereas I get well over 24 hours with average use in good signal strength areas.
Back when I first got my phone, I used System Panel to figure out what was causing the battery drain. I liked using it so much, I even ended up purchasing it. The history part is what you want, and it will work without paying for a bit, so you can find the problem.

xlrdxrevengex said:
well if you do have it setup for everything to be off between 2 - 5 then wouldn't that make sense that as soon as 5 hit your apps will start syncing even Google apps as they have been trying to sync that whole time and just started queuing up and finally your radios turned back on. I have not used juice yet so i do not know much about it just throwing in some pennies.
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that would make sense if I was running something like that, but I'm not - as a part of my job, I need to be able to reply immediately to specific emails. At any hour. Total PITA, but hell, it's better than not having a job, right? JuicePlotter's pretty neat though - it just sits in the background monitoring your battery levels and graphs them. For example, it was showing an almost horizontal line from when I stopped using the phone the night before until exactly 5am when it started a gradual decline.
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One other thing the refresh manually is only for when the app is closed as soon as that app opens its going to sync with its servers. When you set it to manual then that means when you open the app you manually refreshed it and the phone did not do that while idle or you were busy on some other app. Its like twitter for desktops if you set your refresh manually then while the app is open it will not refresh until you hit refresh
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Are you sure about this? I mean it makes sense, but I would be willing to swear that back when I was running stock I would open FB or Twitdroyd and it would wait for me to hit refresh before syncing with their servers. Twitdroyd, for example, I would set to keep 80 tweets, and I would check it only occasionally, so I could read those 80 tweets whenever I wanted. Now when I check it, because it syncs immediately, I lose anything older than the most recent 80 tweets. As a workaround, I've increased the number of tweets to keep, but it's still annoying.

ok so hmm what rom are you using. not wanting to bash the dev but could it be that rom?

hankbear said:
One thought: Do you have a good signal in the spot where your phone sits at 5am? A bad signal is the best way to drain a battery fast. A friend's house has an awful Sprint signal, and my battery will drain in four or five hours there, even with no use, whereas I get well over 24 hours with average use in good signal strength areas.
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My signal's not great, but the phone didn't move between 4am and 5am, and the battery only started draining at 5am.
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Back when I first got my phone, I used System Panel to figure out what was causing the battery drain. I liked using it so much, I even ended up purchasing it. The history part is what you want, and it will work without paying for a bit, so you can find the problem.
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I actually purchased SystemPanel this morning with the hope that it would help me get to the bottom of this (I had been using the free version for a while, and now I had an excuse to buy it). It shows me history of battery, device usage, and cpu activity, but even if I see that the cpu or the device is being used, I'm still not sure how that's going to help me pinpoint what's going on. First I need to build up some history anyway though.

[Q] Save battery by turning off mobile data (Tasker)

I'm trying to figure out if it's worthwhile to turn off mobile data when the screen is off, and turn data back on when the screen is turned on. It would also be necessary for me to occasionally switch mobile data on even when the screen is off in order to check email. (I'm thinking something like 15 minutes off, 3 minutes on)
Does anybody have any success stories or advice whether I am likely to see any noticeable battery savings by doing this?

I started doing this from when I first got my evo. Just turn off mobile data, you can still get texts and make calls, and then turn it on when you need it. Also turning off background data in settings also adds additional battery, but just enable it when you need the market. I went most of all day with about 80% of my battery still good between it just being off, using the mobile data here and there, and some texting.
Edit: I don't use a tasker, I just use the power widget in my notification, so I can turn on my mobile data on/off with just a tap. And if you're like me you don't know when you actually need it or for how long. So I find it easier and more effective to do it manually.

teh roxxorz said:
I started doing this from when I first got my evo. Just turn off mobile data, you can still get texts and make calls, and then turn it on when you need it. Also turning off background data in settings also adds additional battery, but just enable it when you need the market. I went most of all day with about 80% of my battery still good between it just being off, using the mobile data here and there, and some texting.
Edit: I don't use a tasker, I just use the power widget in my notification, so I can turn on my mobile data on/off with just a tap. And if you're like me you don't know when you actually need it or for how long. So I find it easier and more effective to do it manually.
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X2, i use switch pro to toggle mine. Battery drops about 2% per hr while data is of with screen off even when listening to music from my play lists.

I turn off the "always on " mobile data and noticed a big difference. The data turns on and off with the screen.
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Over the months I have been an Evo user, I have collected some valuable information that all users should probably know in regards to maximizing battery life. Besides the stuff about 4G and a few specific options, these steps apply to pretty much any other android phone running 2.2, and a lot of them apply to versions below Froyo.
General Lithium Ion Battery Information
^^This link includes stuff about charging, including trickle charging aka SBC (Why NOT to use it, or at your own peril)
My tips for good battery life:
Tips for Non-Rooted users:
1. Turn off all radios when not in use.
(gps, Bluetooth, wifi, data, 4g) Use a widget like the default HTC power widget or Switchpro from the market. The radios of the phone draw power if on even if the user isn't actually utilizing the radio's functions.
To manually turn off radios without a toggle, go to menu>settings>wireless & networks.
Wifi uses less battery than 3G, so use wifi when you can.
**IMPORTANT DISCOVERY**When you turn on your 4G radio, then turn it off, it will keep scanning and turning off all by itself.
The problem is apparently exacerbated by a 4G toggle widget, which causes the phone to automatically turn on 4G at boot. This repeating of scanning and disconnecting severely drains battery life, and sadly, no matter what ROM or kernel you use, there is only one way to fix it:
-If you don’t use the toggle widget, then you have to reboot your phone after turning off 4G
-If you do use a toggle widget, then you have to remove the widget from your homescreens, then turn off 4G via settings, then reboot.
**To check to see if this is happening, download alogcat off of the market. Look for the lines saying: I/Wimax ( xxx): <DC> Try to establish a connection to DC server.
E/Wimax ( xxx): <DC CONNECT> IO error: msg=’/xxx.x.x.x:xxxx –
Connection refused’
Over and over again.
2. Juice Defender is one of my favorite apps. Basically it controls your data for you to maximize life.
More explanations are on their page, search it on the market for free, or upgrade for more features.
Here are my settings for it: Click me
Note that for me at least, juice defender likes to deny apps data privileges whether you allow them or not, so screen on = data on works best for me.
3. I love live wallpapers, and I’ve always been a fan of pixel zombies, but they are really only good for showing off due to their battery drain.
4. Go to menu<settings<wireless & networks<mobile networks<disable always on mobile data.
Product F(RED) said:
To clarify, "Always On Mobile Data", when turned off, lets the 3G modem go to sleep after the screen has been off for 5 minutes. It doesn't interfere with anything like email or any other application that requires an internet connection at that moment because it turns on on-demand rather than being on all the time and wasting battery.
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5. Set your screen timeout to something that fits you
This will prevent your phone from staying on when you don’t manually turn off the screen. Also with this, manually turn off your screen when you’re done with your phone.
6. Everyone has that issue where the first ten percent go the fastest.
This is due to two things. One is that these types of batteries stop charging once they get to 100% to prevent damage, and begin charging again at 90%. This means that you could potentially unplug your seemingly fully charged phone at 90% actual charge. The second is number 7.5.
6.5. Use the trick described in this thread, it works.
My idea behind how often you should do it is once a month, if you flash a new ROM, or if you stop noticing the benefits.
This is the calibration technique recommended by HTC themselves. Check it out!​
7. Task killers used to be the shiz, but no longer.
Here is the ultimate, in depth, graphically assisted, explanation by the famous Fresh ROM's chef, Flipz. Shortly, in light of recent testing, really don’t do anything but force apps that the android OS needed to be open, and thus didn’t close, to re-open. So try not using them, unless for stuff like trying to figure out why your phone isn’t sleeping with system panel. You really won’t notice a performance difference, and the adverse effects you aren’t seeing will stop
+=+ A good alternative is the application SystemPanel Pro. It has a free version, but I highly reccomend purchasing the paid app. It basically monitors everything going on with your phone's usage both in real time an in terms of usage history. If your battery is draiging fast, it tells you what app was doing it, how much it was doing it, and allows you to stop it.
8. People posting screenshots of the Battery screen as proof of long lasting battery are giving statistically irrelevant information.
See HERE That screen shows time since last REBOOT, not last charge. This isn't always the case, but a lot of people will post a lot of things about battery life, but look for definitive screenshots and testing results before you break down and cry due to the poster's life and yours.
9. I'm sure you have all heard around that your phone isn't "sleeping".
This is referring to the phone's "awake" time, hence the name. When you go to menu>settings>about phone>battery, you can compare the two numbers, "up time" vs. "awake time." Generally, up time refers to the amount of time since the last reboot. The "awake time" is how long the screen has been active. The problem is, a lot of the time, due to the endless possibilities of inconsistencies between apps/ROMs/kernels/phones, the phone will not go to "sleep", drawing power proportionate to the screen being in use when it reality the phone is sitting idle.
If you compare these numbers, and they are the same, or if you note the difference, turn off the screen for a minute, then re-check and they are the same, then your phone is not sleeping.
One solution is to reboot.
Usually, SystemPanel will show an app that has gone "rouge" and is keeping your phone awake.
Uninstall applications/reinstalling them slowly, checking after every install to see what is causing it is one tedious but surefire solution.
Lastly,
Follow these steps that I have discovered almost always work.
1. Reboot phone.
2. Instantly upon reboot, as soon as you gain control, open up some type of monitor/taskkiller
3. "kill all" tasks on startup; about 5 times in quick succession should do the trick.
4. Turn off the screen and leave it for about five minutes.
5. Check the up time v. awake time and see if they are the same.
6. If they are, repeat steps 1-5. If they are different, you are good.
Tips for Rooted users:
1. Try out custom kernels.
By going to the EVO 4G Android Development section of the forums, you can see all of the different kernels being developed. These allow for all kinds of modifications like underclocking the CPU and undervolting, both of which save battery. To see how to use them, read the FAQ's in each thread's OPs.
Here is a great guide to custom kernel's by mroneeyedboh.
2. Use SetCPU in compliance with whatever your custom kernel allows.
This site will explain the basics of SetCPU: http://www.pokedev.com/setcpu/
-Profiles from SetCPU should usually involve these for battery life optimization:
-Screen off at the minimum clock speed for both, with the max raised on level if sluggishness is apparent
-A temperature greater than “X”
-General power related profiles that lower cpu speed at lower battery levels
-Here are my SetCPU profiles: 1 , 2 , 3
-My profiles change a lot as time goes by, because different kernel creators recommend different settings. I suggest reading up on whatever kernel you are using to gather settings.
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*Some apps or processes begin to run at startup and keep the phone awake. These apps are not detected by things like spare parts or system panel, unless sometimes represented in the "system" process, in which case its usage will be unusually high.
This shouldn't take more than three repeats, and if it does, you need to factory reset, and slowly add apps back to see what's causing the problem.
___--- When it comes to actually "calibrating" one's battery, there are a couple of methods floating around. The method I first learned is to charge the phone all the way, boot into recovery immediately, and "wipe battery stats". Then reboot quickly, and run your phone all the way to death without charging it, then charge it all the way without interrupting it, and you should be good to go. Do this when changing ROMs/kernels for best results.
----When it comes to people claiming 20 plus hours of moderate/heavy use out of their current setup or other ridiculous absurdities, consider my position: No matter what you do, the Evo battery is the Evo battery. You can tweak it and customize it with kernels, ROMs, and settings, but none of that will turn it into a car battery. The main problem (besides a false sense of pride) that leads to these reports is the misunderstanding of what the usage levels are, so here’s my best summary:
* *Light usage – Phone screen actually on for maybe 4 hours. Things like a few texts, some emails, 20 minutes web browsing, etc.
* *Moderate usage – You watched a few youtube videos or similar apps, sustained web browsing, hundreds of texts, some games. Hours range from about 5-10 of screen on
* *Heavy usage – LOTS of video watching and games, or some high def gaming/movie watching for at least an hour to an hour and a half in total, with lots of emails and texts, browsing, and other app shenanigans
*I’m sure everyone doesn’t agree with all these numbers, but this is most likely a good average of what powerusers think. All specific hourage may vary due to differences in phones, batteries, ROMs, and kernels… Which also means that most battery comparisons are pointless; it’s only what you can improve on that counts!
I’ll update this whenever I see good stuff, people remind me, or I remember/come across things I do.
Hope it helps everybody!
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hfuizo said:
I'm trying to figure out if it's worthwhile to turn off mobile data when the screen is off, and turn data back on when the screen is turned on. It would also be necessary for me to occasionally switch mobile data on even when the screen is off in order to check email. (I'm thinking something like 15 minutes off, 3 minutes on)
Does anybody have any success stories or advice whether I am likely to see any noticeable battery savings by doing this?
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I am the owner of SuttCo. We developed the Locale Mobile Data Plugin (which can be used by Tasker). It has a condition that can keep tabs on your data use and a setting which can be used to shut off mobile data.
I know Tasker and Locale have screen off/on conditions. I don't have time to run any tests for you (busy working on a new plugin), but if you're willing to do a semi-scientific study and report the findings here... I'll comp you a copy of the plugin. Shoot me a PM.

Good stuff
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glad i found this post... improving batt life all written up, great job!

Juice defender takes care of turning off ur mobile data and turning it on when needed, all by itself
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Not to say that turning off mobile data when you're not using it is a bad idea but I've found during my own personal experience with trying to improve my battery life for daily use that using titanium backup to freeze Google Backup Transport.apk is also a helpful solution. Other things that helped are going into Accounts & Sync and turning off background data because believe it or not, that stuff eats your battery up like a fat kid eating cake...hahahaha...Anyways, another tip would be to hit up Display and turn off Automatic Brightness and play around with the scroll until you come to a setting where you can see because I've found that the Automatic brightness eats up your battery too, not as fast but it does! Another thing that I've done is this and although there are task killers that would do this for you....I've decided to do this myself and after using an app such as Facebook or the brand new CNN app, I've gone into Applications and force close them out just to save battery and all of this nonsense I'm talking about has helped me out alot......NOT TO BRAG but using these little tips of mine, I've gone from 2 and a half hours and I was at 70 percent to 4 hours, 36 minutes and 48 seconds and I'm at 68 percent.....and that's with out turning my phone off, that's talking on the phone, texting, checking my facebook, downloading some apps here and there and just leaving it on in front of me at my desk.
Please don't start posting "Oh what, you want a FUC%ing cookie now" and all of this....all I intend to do is help someone by sharing my story....that is all! I got to get my butt to working again...hahahahaha

hfuizo said:
I'm trying to figure out if it's worthwhile to turn off mobile data when the screen is off, and turn data back on when the screen is turned on. It would also be necessary for me to occasionally switch mobile data on even when the screen is off in order to check email. (I'm thinking something like 15 minutes off, 3 minutes on)
Does anybody have any success stories or advice whether I am likely to see any noticeable battery savings by doing this?
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I have setup a few Tasker profiles to do this exactly. I did this instead of JD because the free JD doesn't do exactly what I want it to do, and I don't want to pay for JD when I can emulate it with Tasker.
The only thing I cannot do, that JD can, is keep data on while there is an active connection. With JD, if you turn off the screen while there is an active data transfer, it will wait until the transfer finishes to turn off data.
According to the Tasker website, there is plans to make a state/event "connection data rate" which would make it possible to do this. But that has been in their plans for quite some time. (I actually happened upon this post while searching for a way to check if there is an active data connection with Tasker.)
Also, with the way that Tasker views an "Open program", the program has to be open in the foreground in order to be considered open. This makes it tough to keep data on when a specific program is open, unless you're planning on keeping that program in the foreground all the time. To get around this, I created a profile that leaves data enabled while I have headphones plugged in, since I have headphones plugged in while using all the programs that I want to have constant data with.
EDIT: here are the profiles, and the tasks that go with them (I also included a profile that turns off the wifi antenna after disconnecting from a wifi access point.)
dl.dropbox dot com/u/4658512/profiles.zip
dl.dropbox dot com/u/4658512/tasks.zip
(It won't let me post links because I don't have enough posts, so just take out the spaces and replace dot with .)

Battery - Wi-Fi and Awake always solid blue

So I've been trying to get more life out of my battery, I get decent now, but not the 18+ hours I've seen other people getting. I think the main problem here is, if I go view the Applications -> Battery Usage screen, the "Wi-Fi" and "Awake" bars are always full blue, even when the phone hasn't been touched in a couple hours.
Does anyone know what actually causes these to now sleep? Is it push email? Or some other setting I'm missing?
Thanks

RubenRybnik said:
So I've been trying to get more life out of my battery, I get decent now, but not the 18+ hours I've seen other people getting. I think the main problem here is, if I go view the Applications -> Battery Usage screen, the "Wi-Fi" and "Awake" bars are always full blue, even when the phone hasn't been touched in a couple hours.
Does anyone know what actually causes these to now sleep? Is it push email? Or some other setting I'm missing?
Thanks
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Look and find out you can start by turning off wifi if not using it post your screen shots of battery use someone may help
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RubenRybnik said:
So I've been trying to get more life out of my battery, I get decent now, but not the 18+ hours I've seen other people getting. I think the main problem here is, if I go view the Applications -> Battery Usage screen, the "Wi-Fi" and "Awake" bars are always full blue, even when the phone hasn't been touched in a couple hours.
Does anyone know what actually causes these to now sleep? Is it push email? Or some other setting I'm missing?
Thanks
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Try Menu/Settings/Wireless and Network/Wi-Fi Settings. Then press Menu/Advanced/Wi-Fi- sleep policy.
Play with those settings. You are probably set to "Never". Folks have actually been reporting better battery life with this setting (powering on and shutting down the wifi eats up battery) You can play around with it to get your own results.
Hit thanks if this helps!

pojieps said:
Try Menu/Settings/Wireless and Network/Wi-Fi Settings. Then press Menu/Advanced/Wi-Fi- sleep policy.
Play with those settings. You are probably set to "Never". Folks have actually been reporting better battery life with this setting (powering on and shutting down the wifi eats up battery) You can play around with it to get your own results.
Hit thanks if this helps!
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Ah...yes, it is set to never. So leaving it on "never" gets better results, say if you're at home and always have a wifi connection? Also, if the wi-fi is on, does that mean the device can't sleep I take it, that's what's keeping the device awake with screen off?
Thanks for the tip.

RubenRybnik said:
Ah...yes, it is set to never. So leaving it on "never" gets better results, say if you're at home and always have a wifi connection? Also, if the wi-fi is on, does that mean the device can't sleep I take it, that's what's keeping the device awake with screen off?
Thanks for the tip.
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I've heard both sides to this argument, and frankly I don't think most people understand why changing it does, or in other cases does not help.
I suspect that the answer to your issue isn't going to be found here. Here's the theory:
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - Never" results in better battery life for some; it's likely because these individuals have a fairly low 3g signal, which tends to draw more battery when periodic updates/synchronization occurs (e.g., gmail, calendar, facebook, etc.). By leaving wifi Sleep set to never, the wifi (which THEORETICALLY uses less power than 3g) can do the work instead.
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - When Screen is Off" can result in better battery life for a number of reasons, many of the underlying issues being hard to identify. For example, if your router tends to send a lot of 'noise' and wake up your phone, having wi-fi disabled will prevent this. Location services in the OS - which you've probably permitted to 'help locate you faster' - even when you are NOT connected to a wifi network - will periodically ping wireless networks around you to help facilitate faster geolocation. This uses battery as well.
But don't confuse the generalities that have spawned from people's anecdotal situations with what could be a very different problem.
Was your phone primarily located in one location during most of the 'awake' period? If so, then it was probably connected to the same router most of that time. If so, it really shouldn't matter what the setting was for Advanced Wifi - the phone should still sleep.
If you turn off wi-fi on the device, and the device then sleeps, then you've narrowed the issue some, but that is not a solution, because what are you going to do, not use wifi?
You've got to dig deeper; your issue may be any of the following - rogue app that keeps a wakelock, rogue app that updates too frequently, wifi modem issue, router issue, OS issue, etc.
In short, you need to figure out what's keeping the phone awake. Get CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to help you get insight into what's keeping the device awake.

Capp5050 said:
I've heard both sides to this argument, and frankly I don't think most people understand why changing it does, or in other cases does not help.
I suspect that the answer to your issue isn't going to be found here. Here's the theory:
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - Never" results in better battery life for some; it's likely because these individuals have a fairly low 3g signal, which tends to draw more battery when periodic updates/synchronization occurs (e.g., gmail, calendar, facebook, etc.). By leaving wifi Sleep set to never, the wifi (which THEORETICALLY uses less power than 3g) can do the work instead.
- Setting wifi policy to "Sleep - When Screen is Off" can result in better battery life for a number of reasons, many of the underlying issues being hard to identify. For example, if your router tends to send a lot of 'noise' and wake up your phone, having wi-fi disabled will prevent this. Location services in the OS - which you've probably permitted to 'help locate you faster' - even when you are NOT connected to a wifi network - will periodically ping wireless networks around you to help facilitate faster geolocation. This uses battery as well.
But don't confuse the generalities that have spawned from people's anecdotal situations with what could be a very different problem.
Was your phone primarily located in one location during most of the 'awake' period? If so, then it was probably connected to the same router most of that time. If so, it really shouldn't matter what the setting was for Advanced Wifi - the phone should still sleep.
If you turn off wi-fi on the device, and the device then sleeps, then you've narrowed the issue some, but that is not a solution, because what are you going to do, not use wifi?
You've got to dig deeper; your issue may be any of the following - rogue app that keeps a wakelock, rogue app that updates too frequently, wifi modem issue, router issue, OS issue, etc.
In short, you need to figure out what's keeping the phone awake. Get CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to help you get insight into what's keeping the device awake.
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Thank you for that very informative post. My phone was on my desk all day today( worked from home ) and wi-fi is set to always on, and it never slept, not even once.
I'll try disabling wi-fi( should have done this earlier to be honest and checked ) and then I'll download those apps, I just got Badass Battery Monitor, I'll check out the two you recommended as well. Thanks for the info!

Your phone should still go into deep sleep with wifi on. If it doesn't then you have something else wakelocking your phone. However, if wifi is set to never sleep, and wifi is enabled, the bar on the battery chart will always be solid blue.

So just installed CPU Spy, it looks like IM+ is the biggest user of wakelocks. I like to always be signed in to my accounts, but not at such a huge cost of battery, does anyone know of a better multi IM client that will push updates to you? I used to have IM+ on the iPhone( yea I know, just switched two months ago, and never looking back ) and the push on it worked great. The 'push' IM+ says it has is awful, most of the time I never get my IMs sent to me at all.
Also have skype signed on all the time, not sure if that is wakelock'ing anything, I'll have to keep an eye on it, it didn't show up on CPU Spy.

Try IMO, free from the Android Market. Its a multi-IM client that combines most common clients including Skype. I've used it. It creates some wakelocks, but not sufficient to wake the phone. I don't use IM very often so I'd be curious to hear how it works for you.

Capp5050 said:
Try IMO, free from the Android Market. Its a multi-IM client that combines most common clients including Skype. I've used it. It creates some wakelocks, but not sufficient to wake the phone. I don't use IM very often so I'd be curious to hear how it works for you.
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Thanks ... Giving it a try today, I'll let you know how it goes.

Capp5050 said:
Try IMO, free from the Android Market. Its a multi-IM client that combines most common clients including Skype. I've used it. It creates some wakelocks, but not sufficient to wake the phone. I don't use IM very often so I'd be curious to hear how it works for you.
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So been trying IMO the past couple days. Seems much better than IM+. Haven't seen any disconnects, I get my IMs about 30sec - 1min after the computer gets them, which is fine, and the wake-locking is extremely minimal. IM+ was awful with the wake-locking.
So that clears up the Always awake issue, flashed Blazer 3.8 last night, so can't comment on battery too much yet, also calibrating today.

RubenRybnik said:
So been trying IMO the past couple days. Seems much better than IM+. Haven't seen any disconnects, I get my IMs about 30sec - 1min after the computer gets them, which is fine, and the wake-locking is extremely minimal. IM+ was awful with the wake-locking.
So that clears up the Always awake issue, flashed Blazer 3.8 last night, so can't comment on battery too much yet, also calibrating today.
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Thanks for the feedback, glad to hear it helped, and I now feel a little more confident leaving my IM 'on' more often.