[Q] Windows Live ID - Windows Phone 7 General

Hey, wondering if you guys can help me out. I have an Android phone and I think I'm going to WP7. Do I need a Windows Live ID?
Disclaimer:::: I don't play games so I wont use Xbox and I don't use hotmail or windows live messenger. So basically do I need one and why?

yes, why? because you might need one later on. I believe you can use your phone without setting an id but you probably can't use some of the services.

seanp666 said:
Hey, wondering if you guys can help me out. I have an Android phone and I think I'm going to WP7. Do I need a Windows Live ID?
Disclaimer:::: I don't play games so I wont use Xbox and I don't use hotmail or windows live messenger. So basically do I need one and why?
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You will if you want access to skydrive. You can upload your images/videos there after you take them.

I believe you can use your gmail account as your live id too

If you want to interact with any of Microsoft services you'll need a Live ID. This includes interacting with the app store. I imagine Android is similar with its market as well? I know Apple requires an account.

sayonical said:
I believe you can use your gmail account as your live id too
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Yes you can. I just set one up and I used my Gmail. Much appreciation.

Use a windows live id to set the phone up and then forward it to whatever other account you use for email and stuff.

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MSN?

So would it be possible to make an offical-ish looking app that works like MSN on blackberrys? I bloody hate the 3rd party IM clients im currently stuck with, I only care about MSN not AIM or bloody Yahoo.
I don't mind making up art work, I can't code to save myself however
Bouncer5 said:
So would it be possible to make an offical-ish looking app that works like MSN on blackberrys? I bloody hate the 3rd party IM clients im currently stuck with, I only care about MSN not AIM or bloody Yahoo.
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what do you mean that works on blackberrys?
If you mean one that can communicate with BBIM then thats not possible, thats only for Blackberrys.
Also there is no official android MSN app. Ebuddy works fine, you only need to add a MSN account and then it wont show or ask you about anything else. It will auto sign in your MSN account when you launch your app and then you can start chatting away. There is nothing wrong with Ebuddy
msntalk is free on the market. working very fine for me. its not adfree but not that disturbing
Nekromantik said:
what do you mean that works on blackberrys?
If you mean one that can communicate with BBIM then thats not possible, thats only for Blackberrys.
Also there is no official android MSN app. Ebuddy works fine, you only need to add a MSN account and then it wont show or ask you about anything else. It will auto sign in your MSN account when you launch your app and then you can start chatting away. There is nothing wrong with Ebuddy
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No no for blackberry or to communicate, I mean something that looks like the MSN app provided by Microsoft/Blackberry, I am aware of eBuddy as I currently use it, In my opinion it is nasty but also the best of them, Why I was hoping to go about getting a official looking MSN app on Android
I would love a real MSN Client. Like in Windows Mobile and BlackBerry.
With:
- Change your User Icon
- Change your Nickname
- Change your Personal Message
- Offline Messaging
- Able to send and receive buzzers
- Able to send and receive files.
- While looking good without crappy iPhone-style bubbles (Looking at you eBuddy!)
kekkle said:
I would love a real MSN Client. Like in Windows Mobile and BlackBerry.
With:
- Change your User Icon
- Change your Nickname
- Change your Personal Message
- Offline Messaging
- Able to send and receive buzzers
- Able to send and receive files.
- While looking good without crappy iPhone-style bubbles (Looking at you eBuddy!)
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I would be happy with just standard messages with the ability to change Nickname and personal message, User icon would be a bonus all the other stuff im not TO fussed about, especially since "Windows Live" has changed the send on files like photo to a sharing experience
Is it just T-Mo UK that blocks MSN via 3G, then (that is, the official version on :1873).
As far as im aware the "Official" version is made and provided by Three and only works on there network
Any pictures of this 'Three' version? Also, isn't there a way to reverse engineer their stuff
OT: I prefer to use Google Talk for chatting. Is anyone else using transports to connect to ICQ and MSN via Google Talk?
kekkle said:
Any pictures of this 'Three' version? Also, isn't there a way to reverse engineer their stuff
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The apk is avalible somewhere, Not to sure on what it looks like but
FloHimself said:
OT: I prefer to use Google Talk for chatting. Is anyone else using transports to connect to ICQ and MSN via Google Talk?
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I only know of one person with a Google Talk account, Everyone else is either a contact or on MSN
kekkle said:
Any pictures of this 'Three' version? Also, isn't there a way to reverse engineer their stuff
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I have it on my phone but it's very basic.
I can't take a picture of it because I don't get a 3G singnal in my house. When you open MSN if it dosen't detect a 3G network it says Please connect to the 3G network and then just shuts down.
Bouncer5 said:
I only know of one person with a Google Talk account, Everyone else is either a contact or on MSN
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Thats why transports are used to chat to your ICQ and MSN (and other IM services) buddies from Google Talk.
As I said anybody that I actually want to talk to is on MSN, In the UK ICQ or AIM weren't really popular, so everyone of interest is on MSN
Correct!
And I said I'm chatting to MSN buddies from Google Talk App...
MSN Talk is the best I've found so far, does everything you want and has a very nice UI aswell.
FloHimself said:
Correct!
And I said I'm chatting to MSN buddies from Google Talk App...
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Didnt know I could do that? I'll have to look at it I guess
Hm, my Google Talk android app fc's on me, when I try to contact a MSN contact via transports. Any comment on that ?
thed0g said:
Hm, my Google Talk android app fc's on me, when I try to contact a MSN contact via transports. Any comment on that ?
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Here it works all fine...
Can you tell which phone / rom / gtalk version ? And possibly the jabber msn transport server (doubt that would make a difference, protocol is protocol) ?

Thinking about moving to android, few questions...

Im thinking about moving from WinMo to Android. If you could help me with few questions...
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com... I want to sync with Outlook via usb (bluetooth, yeah maybe but usb would be better); contacts, calendar and tasks... Is there good sync software out there?
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
To me its also important to automatically sync folders while syncing with Outlook, any good programs for that? Ive been using MobSync with WinMo and I guess it could work with this too? I found also Microsoft SyncToy, never tried it though...
Can I get my tasks listed on Android today screen like on WinMo? I need to have be reminded of my tasks, otherwise I would spend ½ of my day reading at XDA and not doing any of the things Im supposed to do...
Any comments and help is appreciated... Thanks!
Loco5150 said:
Im thinking about moving from WinMo to Android. If you could help me with few questions...
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com... I want to sync with Outlook via usb (bluetooth, yeah maybe but usb would be better); contacts, calendar and tasks... Is there good sync software out there?
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HTC Sync comes with the phone, I also had some contacts stored on my company mail but I've started migrating to gmail because the really really neat integration and extremely useful features.
Loco5150 said:
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
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I don't use any software for editing just for opening the docs on my smartphone so I can't help you here but I'm fairly sure you can
Loco5150 said:
To me its also important to automatically sync folders while syncing with Outlook, any good programs for that? Ive been using MobSync with WinMo and I guess it could work with this too? I found also Microsoft SyncToy, never tried it though...
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Again I'm more hands on with the storage so I don't sync folders maybe someone else can help you here...
Loco5150 said:
Can I get my tasks listed on Android today screen like on WinMo? I need to have be reminded of my tasks, otherwise I would spend ½ of my day reading at XDA and not doing any of the things Im supposed to do...
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Yes you can, there are vagarious free apps on the market that even offer feature widgets/notes for the screens
Hi there!
Did you already buy a Desire? I've used winmob before and you sound like you're totally schooled at Outlook with usb sync. HTC has exchange service support and you can sync through usb, It was long time ago since I ever used active sync but a friend of mine use it on Desire and he was not satisfied.
There is calendarpad that can show on start screen as activities or regular day view. Editing documents are thought to be done through Google docs as it is thought to be faster than a full scale office program on the phone. You can other wise get quick office premium for editing offline.
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Loco5150 said:
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
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yep, documents to go has such functionality:
Loco5150 said:
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com...
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Have you thought about using Google Apps for Domains, so that you can use your own domain with Google services?
Regards,
Dave

[Q] transfering Office Docs

Hi All
simple question.
can i transfer office files to and from wp7 to win7 via the usb cable?
regards
I dont think so , but you can mail them
ceesheim said:
I dont think so , but you can mail them
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Yes, that's great and very convenient. WP7 is a huge progress in this respect.
You can also print the office document and send it to yourself via FedEx
(I want my USB mass storage back)
arturobandini said:
Yes, that's great and very convenient. WP7 is a huge progress in this respect.
You can also print the office document and send it to yourself via FedEx
(I want my USB mass storage back)
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yes that is a real big - for wp7
Could be added simple by microsoft , just make another folder called Documents , and let it sync
same as Music, videos , potcasts , pictures .
but we early adopters have to live with it I think .
I think they (Microsoft) will change things like this really quick .
ceesheim said:
yes that is a real big - for wp7
Could be added simple by microsoft , just make another folder called Documents , and let it sync
same as Music, videos , potcasts , pictures .
but we early adopters have to live with it I think .
I think they (Microsoft) will change things like this really quick .
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Agreed. I hope so.
Otherwise I believe many users will jailbreak their WP7 phone in order to get this essential feature back.
arturobandini said:
Agreed. I hope so.
Otherwise I believe many users will jailbreak their WP7 phone in order to get this essential feature back.
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lol , only tweakers like us will jailbreak the phone (even when it isn't needed) , 99% of the users don't do that.
I know a lot of people that have a iphone and non of them are jailbreaked .
and that is the same for android and wm 6.*.*
Yeah I think they focused too much on Sharepoint integration.
Which by the way only supports Sharepoint 2010 when most businesses haven't upgraded yet.
I agree there should be document syncing in Zune just like there was in Active Sync.
thing was, i was out for the day working away had no gprs dongle as i left it at home and had a word doc to send. ohh i thought i know ill bluetooth it to my mozart no cant do that, ohh ill use the cable no cant to that. So it turns out office mobile is a waste of time on my mozart.
teoami said:
Yeah I think they focused too much on Sharepoint integration.
Which by the way only supports Sharepoint 2010 when most businesses haven't upgraded yet.
I agree there should be document syncing in Zune just like there was in Active Sync.
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Also, there are too many services: Sharepoint, Live, Zune, Hotmail, Skydrive, Mesh, etc... It is a REAL MESS.
Office documents shall be easily transferrable via USB cable, from any PC.
ZUNE (or any specific soft) cannot be the answer since not all the PC will have Zune on it.
Hey Guys
a simple tip for sending things to your computer
if you have a PC you can use the "map network drive" to create a drive which will sync with your skydrive.
so i use that to drag and drop files onto skydrive on the PC which i can access easily on my phone.
or you can download windows live mesh!
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I'm an Android user so don't know if this applies to Windows Phone, but many people seem suprised when I tell them I xfer docs, music, files, etc quickly & easily with Dropbox. It really doesn't get much easier. Sure, a lot of people already know this, but many seem to overlook it too! But bring a new platform and all, there may not be a Dropbox app.
Also, I use ftp lots too. I have both a server and client app on my phones and they both work great. Again, not sure if this applies either tho, but maybe. I use Swiftp as a server, and andFtp as a client, both of which work great. If by chance they are available on WP. If not, maybe there is something similar.
Anyway, just some ideas. I probably don't know what I'm talking about tho, so ill go back to my own section . Hope ya find what you're looking for. I hate when I need a file and dont have access to it. Luckily there are some great tools available to make sure that rarely happens!
PS: Google Docs seems to be getting more and more serious in the mobile world as well. Today the just added editing capabilities on mobile devices.
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WM 6.X.X has Dropbox or Box.net clients also (Kinoma or ruttensoft Cloufiles).
But the problem is still here and still the same:
If someone has some office docs in his PC and you want to import them you will not ask this person if you can install Dropbox on his pc. And what if he does not have Internet connection?
arturobandini said:
WM 6.X.X has Dropbox or Box.net clients also (Kinoma or ruttensoft Cloufiles).
But the problem is still here and still the same:
If someone has some office docs in his PC and you want to import them you will not ask this person if you can install Dropbox on his pc. And what if he does not have Internet connection?
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this is my point i wanted to transfer them so i could send via phones gprs signal. my laptop had no wifi or a gprs signal as i didnt have a dongle.
any other ideas???
arturobandini said:
Also, there are too many services: Sharepoint, Live, Zune, Hotmail, Skydrive, Mesh, etc... It is a REAL MESS.
Office documents shall be easily transferrable via USB cable, from any PC.
ZUNE (or any specific soft) cannot be the answer since not all the PC will have Zune on it.
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SharePoint isn't a consumer Service. It's part of what Microsoft used to call BackOffice back in the day, if they still used that term (along with IIS, Exchange, SQL Server, etc. - basically what comes with Microsoft Windows SBS).
Live Mesh is part of SkyDrive, just like Windows Live Photos was killed and integrated into SkyDrive. Office Web Apps are also part of SkyDrive. It's one service. There is just an application you install on you PCs to Sync Files from them onto that specific area of you SkyDrive.
Windows Live Photo Gallery Syncs directly to SkyDrive. Office Web Apps save directly to SkyDrive and if you use Microsoft Office (desktop Applications) with SkyDrive it saves directly to SkyDrive. Hotmail/Calendar/Contacts are all basically one service. To-Do Lists (i.e. Tasks) are integrated into Calendar and supported fully by Windows Live Mail, as is all functionality of those components.
There are basically 3 Services: SkyDrive, Hotmail, Zune - all running off the same Windows Live ID (if you're organized).
There USED to be too many services, because everything was once separate. SkyDrive, Windows Live Photos, Spaces, Office Live Workspaces, Calendar, etc. was all separate. That's what Google is dealing with now, and trying to fix. Remember all the humbug about having different Google Profiles depending on which service it was? Picasa and Google Docs aren't related outside of their brand, things like that. Microsoft has fixed much of that and integrated the products quite well in Wave 4.
The only people who are suffering are those on Windows XP because they cannot install and use the update client applications (Live Essentials 2011).
Zune needs to be its own service. The same way iTunes isn't integrated into MobileMe for Microsoft and I'm sure Google Music will be as decoupled as everything else Google has when they release that (although the media industry seems to be quite apprehensive of Google these days).
stickyshocker said:
this is my point i wanted to transfer them so i could send via phones gprs signal. my laptop had no wifi or a gprs signal as i didnt have a dongle.
any other ideas???
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Use SkyDrive. Most people won't wait until they get into basically a no-signal area to get their files transferred over.
hboos said:
Hey Guys
a simple tip for sending things to your computer
if you have a PC you can use the "map network drive" to create a drive which will sync with your skydrive.
so i use that to drag and drop files onto skydrive on the PC which i can access easily on my phone.
or you can download windows live mesh!
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awesome!! thanks for the tip!
If you use Microsoft Office (2003 and above) to edit a file on SkyDrive it automatically maps it as a "Network Place" on your computer, BTW, after you open the first file.
N8ter said:
SharePoint isn't a consumer Service. It's part of what Microsoft used to call BackOffice back in the day, if they still used that term (along with IIS, Exchange, SQL Server, etc. - basically what comes with Microsoft Windows SBS).
Live Mesh is part of SkyDrive, just like Windows Live Photos was killed and integrated into SkyDrive. Office Web Apps are also part of SkyDrive. It's one service. There is just an application you install on you PCs to Sync Files from them onto that specific area of you SkyDrive.
Windows Live Photo Gallery Syncs directly to SkyDrive. Office Web Apps save directly to SkyDrive and if you use Microsoft Office (desktop Applications) with SkyDrive it saves directly to SkyDrive. Hotmail/Calendar/Contacts are all basically one service. To-Do Lists (i.e. Tasks) are integrated into Calendar and supported fully by Windows Live Mail, as is all functionality of those components.
There are basically 3 Services: SkyDrive, Hotmail, Zune - all running off the same Windows Live ID (if you're organized).
There USED to be too many services, because everything was once separate. SkyDrive, Windows Live Photos, Spaces, Office Live Workspaces, Calendar, etc. was all separate. That's what Google is dealing with now, and trying to fix. Remember all the humbug about having different Google Profiles depending on which service it was? Picasa and Google Docs aren't related outside of their brand, things like that. Microsoft has fixed much of that and integrated the products quite well in Wave 4.
The only people who are suffering are those on Windows XP because they cannot install and use the update client applications (Live Essentials 2011).
Zune needs to be its own service. The same way iTunes isn't integrated into MobileMe for Microsoft and I'm sure Google Music will be as decoupled as everything else Google has when they release that (although the media industry seems to be quite apprehensive of Google these days).
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Thanks for this useful clarification N8ter.
Still I think it's a bit complicated, and services shall be more integrated.
I think they will have issues trying to integrate them "more" than they already have.
Couple Windows Phone 7 with Windows 7 + Live Essentials, and it's hard to get more integrated with such a good workflow [than they already are].
I'm sure there are areas where the integration can be made tighter, though.
Also I made a typo. I said "... iTunes isn't integrated into mobileMe for Microsoft..."
Microsoft should be "Apple."
Adding Word Documents to WP&
I'm confused on how to send word documents to WP7. I added the documents to Skydrive but I don't see them in my phone. Anybody know what is the ebst way to do it? Thank you

[Q] Internet explorer WP7

hey there. with the hopefully soon WP7 rom i just wanted to know if you will be able to use internet explorer? cotulla says that we wont be able to use live services, what are these live services? i know one will be obviously the marketplace, but what else?
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jiminho said:
hey there. with the hopefully soon WP7 rom i just wanted to know if you will be able to use internet explorer? cotulla says that we wont be able to use live services, what are these live services? i know one will be obviously the marketplace, but what else?
regards
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I'm not exactly sure what the question is.... Live services could be pertaining to the "Ring", "Lock", and "Map" features. But again, shot in the dark.
ok well when WP7 rom is released what wont you be able to do on it? will features like internet explorer be enabled?
Not sure what rom are you referring to?
The one for the HD2??
Not sure but I'm guessing it means anything you need to use your windows live ID to sign in.
So youre windows live contacts, xbox live, windows live calander, live email etc, basically their cloud services. I dont see the point in using the phone without many of these features as its a big part of the way the phone works.

WP7 Accounts

How do i change my main account to my new windows live account? ive added my new one, but it wont register as the new one. Is it possible? or is there a registry hack?
Sadly, the only way to use a new Windows Live ID as your primary one is to do a reset, and when it asks you what Live ID you want to use, make sure you add it first. You can't switch Live IDs any time you like without a reset. And any additional Live IDs you add will not and cannot become your primary one.
Please use the forum search tool, or read the original documentation for Windows Phone 7. This question has been asked (and answered) countless times.
I believe you have to hard reset and start again. An option would be nice
I saw it before, but the thread was old, and i wasnt certain whether they had changed it in the NoDo update. but is there any registry hacks?
Atrixx said:
I saw it before, but the thread was old, and i wasnt certain whether they had changed it in the NoDo update. but is there any registry hacks?
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No. It has not been changed (if it did it would have been on the change logs most likely) and if there is a reg hack, no one has found it yet. Hard reset is the way to go.
id rather not hard rest, considering ill lose the dev hack and my apps. but if found ways to edit my live account and change the address to my gmail account, so ill work with what i have
Atrixx said:
id rather not hard rest, considering ill lose the dev hack and my apps. but if found ways to edit my live account and change the address to my gmail account, so ill work with what i have
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MS considers the apps tied to the account. so moving to a new account means all those apps are lost. perhaps you should ask MS if there is a way to transfer those apps across to the new account? this is more in terms of actual purchased apps, rather than free apps.
Atrixx said:
How do i change my main account to my new windows live account? ive added my new one, but it wont register as the new one. Is it possible? or is there a registry hack?
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You can change windows live ID assosiated with your account.
Go to account.live.com sign in with you old account.
next to windows live ID click on "change"
put your new windows live ID
all your account details, gamertag, purchases, achievements will be transferred to the new windows live ID.
Can you use a Live account on different phones, but with a different X Box Live Account on each phone?
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Cyruss89 said:
Can you use a Live account on different phones, but with a different X Box Live Account on each phone?
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I think you can use the same Live ID on upto 3 phones, i may be wrong though but no you cant use 2 different IDs on the same phone. Your main Live ID is linked to Xbox and Zune also on your phone.

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