I am interested in knowing what features you expected in WP7S OS that aren't there (yet).
These are already well established (in no particular order):
1) Copy and Paste
2) Full unrestricted multitasking
3) OS Skins (such as SPB and Sense)
4) File system access
5) Sideloading apps
6) Restriction-free app market
...what else???
Please justify *****ing and moaning with substantive ideas or solutions
For starters, I was hoping to get system-wide Voice navigation. If this were integrated into the OS, all 3rd-party apps could take advantage of it. I would love to voice my text message replies instead of typing.
WhyBe said:
I am interested in knowing what features you expected in WP7S OS that aren't there (yet).
These are already well established (in no particular order):
1) Copy and Paste
2) Full unrestricted multitasking
3) OS Skins (such as SPB and Sense)
4) File system access
5) Sideloading apps
6) Restriction-free app market
...what else???
Please justify *****ing and moaning with substantive ideas or solutions
For starters, I was hoping to get system-wide Voice navigation. If this were integrated into the OS, all 3rd-party apps could take advantage of it. I would love to voice my text message replies instead of typing.
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thats a good idea send that to the wp7 dev team, maybe somebody could add in as a app
whats missing tho is xbox live without real time multiplayer & there is no sending of messages to people on xbox either which is the most disappointing thing ive heard so far
Lots of important APIs seem to be missing - i.e. you can't manipulate internet or bluetooth connections directly from your program (thus no realtime multiplayer for you), SNAPI and POOM seem to be missing, no Power Manager/hardware access, etc. I'm not 100% sure about these, it's just stuff I didn't find in the docs/emulator. If this is true, I'm having trouble imagining many useful apps beside fart ones. Native APIs would allow to circumvent these limitations, but they aren't available either.
havox22 said:
thats a good idea send that to the wp7 dev team, maybe somebody could add in as a app
whats missing tho is xbox live without real time multiplayer & there is no sending of messages to people on xbox either which is the most disappointing thing ive heard so far
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That doesn't make any sense...all you need to do to send someone a message on xbox is to log into MSN Live Messenger...Even if there is no MSN Live Messenger client, just use meebo.com to log into MSN Live Messenger, and send a message to anyone you want.
gom99 said:
That doesn't make any sense...all you need to do to send someone a message on xbox is to log into MSN Live Messenger...Even if there is no MSN Live Messenger client, just use meebo.com to log into MSN Live Messenger, and send a message to anyone you want.
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from the games hub genius nobody whats to jump thru all those hoops to send a message when you should be able to do it from the start since the phone is suppose to be connected with xbox live
Im thinking about moving from WinMo to Android. If you could help me with few questions...
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com... I want to sync with Outlook via usb (bluetooth, yeah maybe but usb would be better); contacts, calendar and tasks... Is there good sync software out there?
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
To me its also important to automatically sync folders while syncing with Outlook, any good programs for that? Ive been using MobSync with WinMo and I guess it could work with this too? I found also Microsoft SyncToy, never tried it though...
Can I get my tasks listed on Android today screen like on WinMo? I need to have be reminded of my tasks, otherwise I would spend ½ of my day reading at XDA and not doing any of the things Im supposed to do...
Any comments and help is appreciated... Thanks!
Loco5150 said:
Im thinking about moving from WinMo to Android. If you could help me with few questions...
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com... I want to sync with Outlook via usb (bluetooth, yeah maybe but usb would be better); contacts, calendar and tasks... Is there good sync software out there?
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HTC Sync comes with the phone, I also had some contacts stored on my company mail but I've started migrating to gmail because the really really neat integration and extremely useful features.
Loco5150 said:
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
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I don't use any software for editing just for opening the docs on my smartphone so I can't help you here but I'm fairly sure you can
Loco5150 said:
To me its also important to automatically sync folders while syncing with Outlook, any good programs for that? Ive been using MobSync with WinMo and I guess it could work with this too? I found also Microsoft SyncToy, never tried it though...
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Again I'm more hands on with the storage so I don't sync folders maybe someone else can help you here...
Loco5150 said:
Can I get my tasks listed on Android today screen like on WinMo? I need to have be reminded of my tasks, otherwise I would spend ½ of my day reading at XDA and not doing any of the things Im supposed to do...
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Yes you can, there are vagarious free apps on the market that even offer feature widgets/notes for the screens
Hi there!
Did you already buy a Desire? I've used winmob before and you sound like you're totally schooled at Outlook with usb sync. HTC has exchange service support and you can sync through usb, It was long time ago since I ever used active sync but a friend of mine use it on Desire and he was not satisfied.
There is calendarpad that can show on start screen as activities or regular day view. Editing documents are thought to be done through Google docs as it is thought to be faster than a full scale office program on the phone. You can other wise get quick office premium for editing offline.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
Loco5150 said:
The main reason for me to have a smartphone for a cell phone, is so I dont need always have a laptop with me. This brings me to opening and editing office apps; I found "Documents to Go" that seems to be OK, anyone using it?
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yep, documents to go has such functionality:
Loco5150 said:
I dont use any Google services, no gmail as I rather use myowndomain.com...
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Have you thought about using Google Apps for Domains, so that you can use your own domain with Google services?
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Dave
Hi Guys,
Anyone noticed that in the UK the Zune software has no podcasts listed. The PODCAST icon does not even exist.
I have to manually add my rss feeeds for each one?
anyone seen this.
Thanks
Russ
It's still very early days for Zune in Europe. I've had a Zune HD for a year and I've seen the US Marketplace and it's another world. You have more music, podcasts, a lot more movies and also (many) TV shows (plus Zune HD apps).
Hopefully Microsoft will work on that a lot more than they did with Xbox Live (Europe content is rubbish compared to the US). Apple did it, I don't see why Microsoft can't, they have to want it though.
Here's to hope...
RussST24 said:
Hi Guys,
Anyone noticed that in the UK the Zune software has no podcasts listed. The PODCAST icon does not even exist.
I have to manually add my rss feeeds for each one?
anyone seen this.
Thanks
Russ
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It gets even worse if you update your Zunes through the UK version.
You lose access to the marketplace on your devices, and as late as last week you couldn't get any 'Channels' either.
Altho, now we can get some dumbed down (IMO useless) channels.
Is it possible to use my PC for UK Marketplace and my Laptop for USA marketplace?
So having access to both?
I already use a VPN service to access USA only sites like HULU with no problems..
I live in belgium and made an "belgian" live account, now I can only rent a movie, no music or apps or podcasts... We wait and see
Thanks for the confirmation everyone. Shame as they even mention adding podasts via the Zune software Marketplace on the UK windows phone site!
Hopefully its coming as I can understand Video being a rights issues internationally but Podcasts?
Russ
ebzrascal said:
Is it possible to use my PC for UK Marketplace and my Laptop for USA marketplace?
So having access to both?
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You can't use the same Live ID as it is be based in one location.
You'll need two ID's and Zune Pass's (1x UK 1x US) to use both at the same time.
I'm still looking for a better solution.
ioulian said:
I live in belgium and made an "belgian" live account, now I can only rent a movie, no music or apps or podcasts... We wait and see
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Have you tried setting your PC so it 'thinks' its in the US ?
You won't be able to login and buy anything (see above) but it should let you grab some Podcasts.
This trick worked for me, and allowed me to get Podcats and the Marketplace back on my Zunes. I don't have a WP7 phone yet so i don't know if it works with them.
It's easier to just get the rss and subscribe manually, at least he can use his actual Live ID and the marketplace.
Hi All
simple question.
can i transfer office files to and from wp7 to win7 via the usb cable?
regards
I dont think so , but you can mail them
ceesheim said:
I dont think so , but you can mail them
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Yes, that's great and very convenient. WP7 is a huge progress in this respect.
You can also print the office document and send it to yourself via FedEx
(I want my USB mass storage back)
arturobandini said:
Yes, that's great and very convenient. WP7 is a huge progress in this respect.
You can also print the office document and send it to yourself via FedEx
(I want my USB mass storage back)
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yes that is a real big - for wp7
Could be added simple by microsoft , just make another folder called Documents , and let it sync
same as Music, videos , potcasts , pictures .
but we early adopters have to live with it I think .
I think they (Microsoft) will change things like this really quick .
ceesheim said:
yes that is a real big - for wp7
Could be added simple by microsoft , just make another folder called Documents , and let it sync
same as Music, videos , potcasts , pictures .
but we early adopters have to live with it I think .
I think they (Microsoft) will change things like this really quick .
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Agreed. I hope so.
Otherwise I believe many users will jailbreak their WP7 phone in order to get this essential feature back.
arturobandini said:
Agreed. I hope so.
Otherwise I believe many users will jailbreak their WP7 phone in order to get this essential feature back.
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lol , only tweakers like us will jailbreak the phone (even when it isn't needed) , 99% of the users don't do that.
I know a lot of people that have a iphone and non of them are jailbreaked .
and that is the same for android and wm 6.*.*
Yeah I think they focused too much on Sharepoint integration.
Which by the way only supports Sharepoint 2010 when most businesses haven't upgraded yet.
I agree there should be document syncing in Zune just like there was in Active Sync.
thing was, i was out for the day working away had no gprs dongle as i left it at home and had a word doc to send. ohh i thought i know ill bluetooth it to my mozart no cant do that, ohh ill use the cable no cant to that. So it turns out office mobile is a waste of time on my mozart.
teoami said:
Yeah I think they focused too much on Sharepoint integration.
Which by the way only supports Sharepoint 2010 when most businesses haven't upgraded yet.
I agree there should be document syncing in Zune just like there was in Active Sync.
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Also, there are too many services: Sharepoint, Live, Zune, Hotmail, Skydrive, Mesh, etc... It is a REAL MESS.
Office documents shall be easily transferrable via USB cable, from any PC.
ZUNE (or any specific soft) cannot be the answer since not all the PC will have Zune on it.
Hey Guys
a simple tip for sending things to your computer
if you have a PC you can use the "map network drive" to create a drive which will sync with your skydrive.
so i use that to drag and drop files onto skydrive on the PC which i can access easily on my phone.
or you can download windows live mesh!
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I'm an Android user so don't know if this applies to Windows Phone, but many people seem suprised when I tell them I xfer docs, music, files, etc quickly & easily with Dropbox. It really doesn't get much easier. Sure, a lot of people already know this, but many seem to overlook it too! But bring a new platform and all, there may not be a Dropbox app.
Also, I use ftp lots too. I have both a server and client app on my phones and they both work great. Again, not sure if this applies either tho, but maybe. I use Swiftp as a server, and andFtp as a client, both of which work great. If by chance they are available on WP. If not, maybe there is something similar.
Anyway, just some ideas. I probably don't know what I'm talking about tho, so ill go back to my own section . Hope ya find what you're looking for. I hate when I need a file and dont have access to it. Luckily there are some great tools available to make sure that rarely happens!
PS: Google Docs seems to be getting more and more serious in the mobile world as well. Today the just added editing capabilities on mobile devices.
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WM 6.X.X has Dropbox or Box.net clients also (Kinoma or ruttensoft Cloufiles).
But the problem is still here and still the same:
If someone has some office docs in his PC and you want to import them you will not ask this person if you can install Dropbox on his pc. And what if he does not have Internet connection?
arturobandini said:
WM 6.X.X has Dropbox or Box.net clients also (Kinoma or ruttensoft Cloufiles).
But the problem is still here and still the same:
If someone has some office docs in his PC and you want to import them you will not ask this person if you can install Dropbox on his pc. And what if he does not have Internet connection?
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this is my point i wanted to transfer them so i could send via phones gprs signal. my laptop had no wifi or a gprs signal as i didnt have a dongle.
any other ideas???
arturobandini said:
Also, there are too many services: Sharepoint, Live, Zune, Hotmail, Skydrive, Mesh, etc... It is a REAL MESS.
Office documents shall be easily transferrable via USB cable, from any PC.
ZUNE (or any specific soft) cannot be the answer since not all the PC will have Zune on it.
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SharePoint isn't a consumer Service. It's part of what Microsoft used to call BackOffice back in the day, if they still used that term (along with IIS, Exchange, SQL Server, etc. - basically what comes with Microsoft Windows SBS).
Live Mesh is part of SkyDrive, just like Windows Live Photos was killed and integrated into SkyDrive. Office Web Apps are also part of SkyDrive. It's one service. There is just an application you install on you PCs to Sync Files from them onto that specific area of you SkyDrive.
Windows Live Photo Gallery Syncs directly to SkyDrive. Office Web Apps save directly to SkyDrive and if you use Microsoft Office (desktop Applications) with SkyDrive it saves directly to SkyDrive. Hotmail/Calendar/Contacts are all basically one service. To-Do Lists (i.e. Tasks) are integrated into Calendar and supported fully by Windows Live Mail, as is all functionality of those components.
There are basically 3 Services: SkyDrive, Hotmail, Zune - all running off the same Windows Live ID (if you're organized).
There USED to be too many services, because everything was once separate. SkyDrive, Windows Live Photos, Spaces, Office Live Workspaces, Calendar, etc. was all separate. That's what Google is dealing with now, and trying to fix. Remember all the humbug about having different Google Profiles depending on which service it was? Picasa and Google Docs aren't related outside of their brand, things like that. Microsoft has fixed much of that and integrated the products quite well in Wave 4.
The only people who are suffering are those on Windows XP because they cannot install and use the update client applications (Live Essentials 2011).
Zune needs to be its own service. The same way iTunes isn't integrated into MobileMe for Microsoft and I'm sure Google Music will be as decoupled as everything else Google has when they release that (although the media industry seems to be quite apprehensive of Google these days).
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this is my point i wanted to transfer them so i could send via phones gprs signal. my laptop had no wifi or a gprs signal as i didnt have a dongle.
any other ideas???
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Use SkyDrive. Most people won't wait until they get into basically a no-signal area to get their files transferred over.
hboos said:
Hey Guys
a simple tip for sending things to your computer
if you have a PC you can use the "map network drive" to create a drive which will sync with your skydrive.
so i use that to drag and drop files onto skydrive on the PC which i can access easily on my phone.
or you can download windows live mesh!
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awesome!! thanks for the tip!
If you use Microsoft Office (2003 and above) to edit a file on SkyDrive it automatically maps it as a "Network Place" on your computer, BTW, after you open the first file.
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SharePoint isn't a consumer Service. It's part of what Microsoft used to call BackOffice back in the day, if they still used that term (along with IIS, Exchange, SQL Server, etc. - basically what comes with Microsoft Windows SBS).
Live Mesh is part of SkyDrive, just like Windows Live Photos was killed and integrated into SkyDrive. Office Web Apps are also part of SkyDrive. It's one service. There is just an application you install on you PCs to Sync Files from them onto that specific area of you SkyDrive.
Windows Live Photo Gallery Syncs directly to SkyDrive. Office Web Apps save directly to SkyDrive and if you use Microsoft Office (desktop Applications) with SkyDrive it saves directly to SkyDrive. Hotmail/Calendar/Contacts are all basically one service. To-Do Lists (i.e. Tasks) are integrated into Calendar and supported fully by Windows Live Mail, as is all functionality of those components.
There are basically 3 Services: SkyDrive, Hotmail, Zune - all running off the same Windows Live ID (if you're organized).
There USED to be too many services, because everything was once separate. SkyDrive, Windows Live Photos, Spaces, Office Live Workspaces, Calendar, etc. was all separate. That's what Google is dealing with now, and trying to fix. Remember all the humbug about having different Google Profiles depending on which service it was? Picasa and Google Docs aren't related outside of their brand, things like that. Microsoft has fixed much of that and integrated the products quite well in Wave 4.
The only people who are suffering are those on Windows XP because they cannot install and use the update client applications (Live Essentials 2011).
Zune needs to be its own service. The same way iTunes isn't integrated into MobileMe for Microsoft and I'm sure Google Music will be as decoupled as everything else Google has when they release that (although the media industry seems to be quite apprehensive of Google these days).
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Thanks for this useful clarification N8ter.
Still I think it's a bit complicated, and services shall be more integrated.
I think they will have issues trying to integrate them "more" than they already have.
Couple Windows Phone 7 with Windows 7 + Live Essentials, and it's hard to get more integrated with such a good workflow [than they already are].
I'm sure there are areas where the integration can be made tighter, though.
Also I made a typo. I said "... iTunes isn't integrated into mobileMe for Microsoft..."
Microsoft should be "Apple."
Adding Word Documents to WP&
I'm confused on how to send word documents to WP7. I added the documents to Skydrive but I don't see them in my phone. Anybody know what is the ebst way to do it? Thank you
Hey, wondering if you guys can help me out. I have an Android phone and I think I'm going to WP7. Do I need a Windows Live ID?
Disclaimer:::: I don't play games so I wont use Xbox and I don't use hotmail or windows live messenger. So basically do I need one and why?
yes, why? because you might need one later on. I believe you can use your phone without setting an id but you probably can't use some of the services.
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Hey, wondering if you guys can help me out. I have an Android phone and I think I'm going to WP7. Do I need a Windows Live ID?
Disclaimer:::: I don't play games so I wont use Xbox and I don't use hotmail or windows live messenger. So basically do I need one and why?
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You will if you want access to skydrive. You can upload your images/videos there after you take them.
I believe you can use your gmail account as your live id too
If you want to interact with any of Microsoft services you'll need a Live ID. This includes interacting with the app store. I imagine Android is similar with its market as well? I know Apple requires an account.
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I believe you can use your gmail account as your live id too
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Yes you can. I just set one up and I used my Gmail. Much appreciation.
Use a windows live id to set the phone up and then forward it to whatever other account you use for email and stuff.