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Got an unbranded deisre which i have rooted, and installed defrost 1.6c. Can anyone point me towards what stock rom I would need to put it back the way it was originally.
If I did put the stock back on would it still be rooted?
Bootloader was 0.80 when i upgraded.
Had a look at the stock and confused as which one i would need.
OTA_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2-1.15.405.4_release_P4ohim1mtp6zggcyon.zip
Does this look ok?

memphisuklf said:
Got an unbranded deisre which i have rooted, and installed defrost 1.6c. Can anyone point me towards what stock rom I would need to put it back the way it was originally.
If I did put the stock back on would it still be rooted?
Bootloader was 0.80 when i upgraded.
Had a look at the stock and confused as which one i would need.
OTA_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2-1.15.405.4_release_P4ohim1mtp6zggcyon.zip
Does this look ok?
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On this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=695667
It shows all the stock ROMs, you must of been on the lateset one if your are on bootloader 0.80.xxxx
RUU_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2_Radio_32.36.00.28U_4. 06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe would be the one you need if you want to do it from the computer or OTA_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2-1.15.405.4_release_P4ohim1mtp6zggcyon.zip if obviously pushing
Yes you would lose root if you applied any of them

cheers for the reply,
pushing would mean doing it through rom manager into custom recovery wouldn't it and then wipe and installing it. Do i just put this rom on the root directory on my sd card and rename it update?
This then would put it back to its natural state and voiding warranty wouldn't it?

shoey-n said:
or OTA_Bravo_HTC_WWE_1.21.405.2-1.15.405.4_release_P4ohim1mtp6zggcyon.zip if obviously pushing
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Don't use that one, it's an OTA update from 1.51.405.4 to 1.21.405.2. It contains only the changes between these two stock roms. I'd bet that'd really mess things up installed on top of defrost

Download this:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
It's the full 1.21.405.2 ROM, you will need to go back to a Sense ROM to run it though as you need HTC Sync...OR run this from recovery
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.zip
and it should do the same

memphisuklf said:
cheers for the reply,
pushing would mean doing it through rom manager into custom recovery wouldn't it and then wipe and installing it. Do i just put this rom on the root directory on my sd card and rename it update?
This then would put it back to its natural state and voiding warranty wouldn't it?
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Putting the RUU ROM will put it completely back to normal restoring your warranty
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which one would i go for then and what procedure would I use. Any help appreciated.

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Eddy, sorry a little confused.
I am on Defrost 1.6c at the moment. If I run the 1.21.405.2 stock from your second post in recovery, will that take me back to where I want to go?
EddyOS said:
Download this:
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.exe
It's the full 1.21.405.2 ROM, you will need to go back to a Sense ROM to run it though as you need HTC Sync...OR run this from recovery
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Bra...00.28U_4.06.00.02_2_release_126984_signed.zip
and it should do the same
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The 2nd link (the ZIP) should flash you back to stock...if you wanna use the full RUU you'd first need to go back to a custom Sense-based ROM (like MCR v3.1)

EddyOS said:
The 2nd link (the ZIP) should flash you back to stock...if you wanna use the full RUU you'd first need to go back to a custom Sense-based ROM (like MCR v3.1)
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Sorry new to all this. Tried the second link zip which I put on my SD card. Then went into recovery with rom manager, erased and then tried to flash the zip from SD card but kept on getting an error.
Am I doing something wrong?

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[WARNING] If you have s-off do NOT flash offical pc10img.zip

Ok mods, I know this normally isn't the place, but I think this is very important as I'm seeing more and more semi bricks, some of which are not recoverable without HTC signing keys!
So I ask you mods, please don't lock this, if anything it really needs to be a sticky!
That being said, if you are s-off, do NOT flash the signed offical PC10IMG.zip. if you don't have the correct rom on there when you do, as per the unroot thread you will get stuck.
Let me give u an example of what I've been seeing and why its happening so everyone understands. Example: you perm root/s-off your phone. You decide to do some rom playing. You end up boot looping and can't fully boot into android. So u say hey, ill reload pc10 and start over, WRONG.
What happens is s-off does no checks, sigs, version number etc. So when you load it up it starts to flash. Hboot(s-on) is first, then recovery, then radio. Thing is it has to reboot to do radio, so it reboots, at this point your s-on so it does a version check. "Main is older" then it quits before ever touching the system.img or boot.img. at this point you are locked. You have s-on, stock recovery, and can't boot android. Long story short, your screwed.
Now depending on the rom/kernel u had/have installed you may have adb access. At this point you have a small chance of recovering, which is better then some. I just spent the last 5 hours working with someone on a fix and think we got it, but the bat has died and will have to pick back up tomo. If this works or not, I also have one more idea we can try. I will update OP with any fixes we find.
*If your system was bootable when you started this, it may still boot. but you will be s-on, stock recovery, and still on whatever rom you were running. at this point you will have to hex edit to downgrade, or wpthis.ko if there is one for your kernel to get back to s-off.
*ive seen some people saying. i did it, it worked for me, but don't add any supporting info. this is bad for people new to android cause it makes them feel they will be ok. the only way this can work is if you have a version installed as old or older then the official img, or if you take hboot out of the update which then makes it no longer the official update. but my question is why are you flashing this? if you want to fully unroot, then follow the unroot guide. if you just want to go back to stock w/root, grab one of the stock w/root roms.
Long story short, do your rom flashing from recovery. Stay out of hboot unless you are following proven instructions to a T, or being walked though be a "pro". I hope this helps save some people!
* if you just read all this going DAMN, i already did that, then go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842495

Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP

dyndragon said:
Sticky this. In big bolt capital letters. I've seen this happen once already, and just saved another phone from this headache.
More people need to know about the DON'T-FLASH-PC10IMG.ZIP
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When u say u saved a phone. Do u mean u stopped someone before they did it, or you mean u have a working fix. Pls post fix if u have one. I will post mine as soon as I confirm it.
Btw- I have seen 5 happen in the last 3 days. As I haven't gave up on any yet, some are worse off then others and only 2 have a possible fix in the am, well a fix I know of.

After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.

So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?

KronicAnarchy said:
So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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I unrooted my phone, no problems.

No the instructions to unroot are correct because at the beginning you flash an alternate misc.img to change the main version number. I got stuck the other day because my phone wouldnt boot and i couldn't flash the ota because i had removed google goggles and some other system apps so i tried to downgrade using PC10IMG.zip and it cancelled during installation just as stated in the op and i was somehow able to flash the misc.img through fastboot and reflash with PC10IMG.zip

sethrd said:
After I permarooted, I decide to flash a Z ROM. I did, and I didn't care for Sense, so I flashed PC10 and didn't have any issues. Mind you, I didn't flash the OTA at that point either. Phone booted up without an issue, I got the OTA almost immediately, and I permarooted again.
Basically, if you applied the OTA, don't flash PC10 to get stock again.
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If you did not flash the stock rom before you flashed the pc10, you got lucky. When it reboots half way though, it does a version check, and the rom version you happened to be running must have been an older base. If your phone is bootable and you flash the pc10 OUT OF ORDER it will lock you down that way, ie locked on sense. If anyone wants to go back to stock, just flash one of the stock w/root roms in recovery or via rom manager... trust me on this, there are more people screwing up there phone because of this then anything, just not posting about it. I've been up all hours of the night, helping differnt people the last few days.
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So does that mean the instructions for how to Un-Root are no good?
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No the unroot guide is ok. If you notice, the first thing it has you flash is the stock w/root rom. Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok. That is if you want to go back to non-root only though. If you just want stock with root, flash a stock with root rom via RECOVERY or ROM MANAGER.

Im not to sure how it all works and i just got up a little bit ago .
but since s-off doesnt check the sign couldnt we unpack and repack pc10img with the hboot with s-off?

fastludeh22 said:
Like I said if you follow proven instructions to a T, you will be ok.
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Well he's edited his post now, and people have followed his instuctions and bricked their phones.
So just to confirm before I brick mine: The instructions in their current form will not brick my phone, right?

I had s-off when running baconbits. I tried to revert back to stock but couldn't. I then flashed pauls prerooted phone rom and tried to install the stock rom back onto the phone. I seems to have removed the s-off and now displays s-on. I am permanently rooted, but fastboot still shows s-on. Was this caused because I tried to flash the pc10img.zip? Now how do i revert back to stock? I don't have a nandroid backup for the stock rom, just paul's which after a recovery still displays s-on. It doesn't loop, I just can't install anything else on there.

I flashed pc10 and it turned S-ON. But when I booted it up I still had root acess, so it was like a temp root but where I could not write to the system. I took the ko file from the perm root and hex edited it to match the kernal on my phone.. boom rooted again and I was able to flash recovery and do a nand restore
I tested it out again by hbooting pc10.. and I was able to obtain s-off by changing the kernal number in the ko file
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So let me get this straight, in order to flash pc10 safely we MUST have an existing PreRooted STOCK ROM?

No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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marc91988 said:
No all you have to do is run hexeditor to change build number then you can flash pc10img
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Exactly. If you actually follow the directions in the thread you will be fine. I've done it more than a few times and have not had any problems yet.

I have also updated the instruction on the unroot guide aswell.

I was running the original Sense rom that was loaded via hboot which kept me at s-off. I was able to revert back to stock using the PC10 zip from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831398 At the time I had no clockwork recovery. Was what I unsafe?

Thanks for the piece of mind. I don't want to unroot just yet, I'm running pretty much the stock rom w/ ota and bacon bits anyway, so........ Still it's nice to know that I can get back to stock should I NEED to.

Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?

fryrice8850 said:
Okay so I did this and I didn't brick my phone...and still have root/s-off
Did an ota update, after I found out there was perm root I perm root g2 s-off, then I went and downloaded clockwork/rom manager
Created a backup of the current g2, and did a wipe
Then hboot to sense ui (still have root). I went into clockwork create another backup. Played around with desire z rom.
After I decided to go back to stock 2.2 performed a restore with clockwork and now I am back to my original g2 stock.
So am I missing something here?
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These people didnt nand back before messing around with stuff
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Revert to stock question

Hi all,
Need to revert my phone back to stock 2.1, do you just download the stock rom and flash??
What's the difference between then signed and unsigned versions?
I don't have a goldcard, never made one, is that a problem. I am currently running clockwork mod with oxygen. I have not s-off'd the phone.
Any info would be great as I have to return it to three to cancel my contract.
Cheers
Blinky
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Do you know what ROM was originally on the phone? This should be the first thing anyone does before rooting so you can go back if you need to

H3G android 2.1. That's all I know.
Any ideas?
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Found an old post I made with some details about the original rom,
Radio 32.41.00.32U_4.08.00.09
Hboot 0.83.0001
Rom Stock 2.1 Update 1
I cant find this rom to flash back to stock, can only find the two H3G roms on the sticky.
Anyone got any ideas on this, need some help fast please.
Cheers
Blinky

did you keep the backup from when you first rooted your phone?

I did, but the sd card failed and I lost everything. Can I flash either of the stock roms or will one of them, or both, kill the phone?

If you are on 3 UK then you could use the newest 3 ROM from shipped-roms.com

Thats it? No need to use a goldcard (the one I dont have) just run the exe and it'll flash the rom, radio and be back to stock again?
Cheers
Blinky
EddyOS said:
If you are on 3 UK then you could use the newest 3 ROM from shipped-roms.com
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[Q] Any reason to upgrade from 2.2 just to root?

Is there any reason for me to update my already rooted 2.2 Evo to the latest just to update? Do I get anything out of it?
If so, where can I get the original PC36IMG.zip to flash? Thanks.

If you're satisfied with the way your device is performing then no, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. Having said that, if you want to see how newer roms look and perform on your rooted device then yes, you should upgrade from 2.2.
from my EVO 4G

dougjamal said:
If you're satisfied with the way your device is performing then no, there is absolutely no reason to upgrade. Having said that, if you want to see how newer roms look and perform on your rooted device then yes, you should upgrade from 2.2.
from my EVO 4G
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Any idea where or how I would get that original zip file and go from rooted to non-root?

luisdile02 said:
Is there any reason for me to update my already rooted 2.2 Evo to the latest just to update? Do I get anything out of it?
If so, where can I get the original PC36IMG.zip to flash? Thanks.
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No need to unroot and re root. That is just plain stupid. If you want the features of 2.3 flash a 2.3 based Rom.
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I think your question is more around whether the new root method gives you a "better" root than the original, or if it "updates" something. In this situation, no. You're either S-OFF or you're S-ON. If you'd rooted with the old methods and you're S-OFF, there's nothing gained by re-rooting with revolutionary.
Just sleep better at night knowing that if you ever need a replacement, it can be rooted!

bkrodgers said:
I think your question is more around whether the new root method gives you a "better" root than the original, or if it "updates" something. In this situation, no. You're either S-OFF or you're S-ON. If you'd rooted with the old methods and you're S-OFF, there's nothing gained by re-rooting with revolutionary.
Just sleep better at night knowing that if you ever need a replacement, it can be rooted!
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+ 1....... Well stated, my friend....
from my EVO 4G

If you're on 2.2 (Froyo) and already rooted, you can simply get a new rom with the latest Gingerbread kernel included and flash it (recommend doing Nandroid and app backups first).
MikG 2.45 is a nice sense-based rom which has is gingerbread (2.3.3) and incorporates the new sense 2.1 and some 3.0 widgets. Very nice, just follow Mik's recommendations for installation (wipe everything but SD card) for first install.

[Q] Backup before Rooting

Hi
I have an unbranded (unlocked) HTC One X (Bought in UK). I recently received 4.1.1 update but I have decided that I want to root my phone. I have never rooted any phone before so I am pretty much new to the whole process.
I would really like to back up my phone as it is. I am not sure if it is possible to create a ROM of the current state of the phone and restore it if I want to. This is because my phone is still under warranty and if it goes faulty I would like to send it back to HTC in its original state.
I can backup my contacts, messages, apps etc. separately. It is the actual original HTC software I am more worried about.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thank you

Anyone please?
I have been browsing through the forum and I have seen few people ask very similar questions but no one seem to have figured it out yet. I have also seen many topics where people are struggling to recover back to stock ROM because they did not make any proper backups.
Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks

So you need 3.14.401.27 RUU. You are on 2.17.401.x now?
Check htcruu.com, the UK ROM is widely available.

BenPope said:
So you need 3.14.401.27 RUU. You are on 2.17.401.x now?
Check htcruu.com, the UK ROM is widely available.
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Thanks for the reply.
I have official HTC 3.14.401.27 installed on my phone right now. I have never rooted it or anything. That is why I am asking if there is a way for me to save that as a ROM or save that ruu before I root my phone.

Make sure you make a nandroid backup of your stock rom after unlocking bootloader and installing clockworkmod recovery, and keep that backup in a safe place.

Cocktopus said:
Make sure you make a nandroid backup of your stock rom after unlocking bootloader and installing clockworkmod recovery, and keep that backup in a safe place.
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Okay thanks. Any other way to make a copy of stock kernel and recovery too?

i believe there are links to stock kernels and stock recoveries. there's also a thread to go back from custom rom to stock rom if ever you change your mind

jinogungon said:
i believe there are links to stock kernels and stock recoveries. there's also a thread to go back from custom rom to stock rom if ever you change your mind
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Yup I have been reading that.
But it says that:
These instructions require that you have one of the ICS hboot versions in order to work (1.12.0000 or lower). If you have one of the new JB hboots 1.28, 1.31 or 1.33 there is currently no way to return to stock until a JB ruu is released for your device.
After checking my phone, it seems like I have 1.33. It seems like there is no way for my phone to get back to stock at the minute. That is why I was asking if there is anything else I can do to make it possible before I actually root my phone.