I've seen all over that you can't put the sense camera in an AOSP ROM, but I'm afraid I just don't get why. I keep seeing its about framework or something, but could someone offer a better explaination? Like maybe more detail or something. Explain to me like you would to someone who knows very little about this stuff, but just enough to understand at a good explainaton.
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The sense camera is dependent on both sense framework (which isn't present in cm7) and sense libs (which are also replaced by aosp libs) when the app is converted to .dex to run in the dalvik VM it can't find the proper lib and framework files and fc's. Hope that helped some lol
I'd like to know why, as well. The AOSP camera sucks, unfortunately. Sense will always be a great camera, and MIUI in second place (although recently it's been a distant second) so usually when I'm running AOSP I'll snag a miui camera apk and use it to replace the standard AOSP camera in the system folder.
That makes more sense now... Although, I wish someone could make the MIUI camera more like sense camera. The sense camera is AMAZING!! So, if someone could modify the sense camera to make it compatible with AOSP, I'd probably give them a big hug lol.
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If you could do that, you'd be the hero of xda lol. I did see where the nexus prime (yes, i'm choosing to call it that over galaxy nexus) has the zero shutter lag for taking instantaneous pictures. Since i just shattered my inc2 screen yesterday, i'll be first in line to get it.
Well, I would love to get to know code and stuff, and even try to start dev'ing, but right now my computer is busted. Lol so once I get my computer fixed, I'm gonna look into developing some. If anyone has some resources for development they could share that'd be awesome. Like where should I start reading??
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I compiled a list of great resources for the noob corner in the general section. link is in that OP.
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I compiled a list of great resources for the noob corner in the general section. link is in that OP.
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Is it for making ROMs too, cuz I saw java which I know to be apps, right??
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Java is the programming language used for apps, yes. Most recognized devs would tell you that simply taking an existing ROM and replacing or editing some apps does not make a rom. To really begin learning how to make roms, you need some linux experience to compile kernels,etc. You need to start by learning programming languages, grab a good linux distro and learn how to use it, and learn how all the parts of android work together.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=633246
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
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Hi everyone! We are currently in the middle of porting the MIUI ROM to our mdpi devices (g1, hero, magic).
We have successfully ported ALL of the pngs in all of the apks to be compatible with our devices. This was a huge undertaking and it was keeping a lot of devs from wanting to get involved. Now that this big "hinderance" is out of the way, I'm hoping some talented devs will be willing to get involved.
I have posted all the semi-ported apks (by semi-ported, I mean the images are all mdpi now) in a zip file that can be downloaded by any devs who are willing to help get the MIUI rom ported to our devices. If you'd like to download the MIUI mdpi apks, you can visit our thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858935
I don't have any dev skills, so I can't help beyond what I've already done. It is officially now in the hands of the community to take the next necessary steps to a full MIUI port. I hope that our two groups (hero and cdma hero) can cooperate in making this happen!
That is my reason for posting here.
Hope we can get this thing working!
-alex
This is great news like you said, converting all the image files to MDPI was a turn off for many devs. Hopefully some of them can jump onto this and get a working ROM for our GSM/CDMA hero's
Yes, hopefully some of the remaining dev's here will be willing to help out
I think many are busy with the 2.3 AOSP at the moment Have the MIUI devs agreed to release their source files??
On the movies I found about MIUI, you can see it's extremely smooth and fast!
If this is ported to MDPI devices our Hero will be reborn
I'll have a look at it right now.
good luck, sir.
Hmm still a big task AFAIK. It would probably be easier to port all the MIUI apks and files and what not to CM.
Well.. don't the devs have to edit every single .xml-layout-file to get the images in the right spots now?
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Well.. don't the devs have to edit every single .xml-layout-file to get the images in the right spots now?
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Yes unless you do what I said and merge the MIUI apks and the CM apks but there are probably still lot's of specially made apks where you have to do that
I really hope someone completes this!!
hi man i'm really interested on this stuff! i love miui!
could i help you?
Yeah, the more devs are working on it the easier and faster it will be ported for our Hero ^^
If there is anything I can do for this, I'm ready guys
I totally agree but it seems to me like there's a lot of leg work to do so all we need is some instructions on what actually needs to be done. That way people who just want to help but are not actual devs may be able to contribute.
Are there any devs actually working on this port?
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I'll test as long as it boots
If we head over to the G1 section....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=794871&page=10
I'm going to add him on gTalk and try get it for us
and Hero C Although they seem to have gotten as fas as us
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858935
It wil be awesome to have MIUI running on my Hero
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Hmm still a big task AFAIK. It would probably be easier to port all the MIUI apks and files and what not to CM.
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That is another viable option that we've considered. Honestly, though a fully working MIUI ROM would be preferable, a CM6 Rom that could run the miui apps would be fine as well. Better than what we have now: which is nothing.
Any new info?
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I have been using OMGBv6 and I like the ROM. I have recently learned how to customize ROMs'by using the guide at The Unlockr. I have a few questions. Do I need permission to use someone else's ROM? Can I just use a stock ROM from any device (i.e. nexus s) and port it to my device. I was not sure if there would be complications going from GSM to CDMA. The video recording is broken in OMGB. I would like to work to fix that. Can someone point me in the direction of how to fix this? I thought this should go in the development section. Sorry if not.
If you are modding things for yourself, you don't need permission. If you are using another ROM to make your "own" to put up, then you def need permission. When in doubt, ask. As far as the fix you are looking for, I have no idea, someone else will have to lend their input.
This will be just for myself. I love Vanilla ROMs and can not seem to find any. Hopefully I can get some help with the other stuff.
Check your inbox i sent you some info
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This will be just for myself. I love Vanilla ROMs and can not seem to find any. Hopefully I can get some help with the other stuff.
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HTC Incredible OMGB 2.3.1
I have been to his site. I am interested in building my own roms. Not from scratch but for personal use. But thanks
Im sure, if its for personal use and your not trying to pass it of as yours and post it, you should be ok to mod others rom for yourself. Just think of it this way. Google made the os htc made sense and everyone is modding there stuff and releasing it. IMO
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I am just going to use his rom and mod to my liking. I do not plan on releasing to anyone else. Does anyone know if I can use the stock rom from a nexus s and use on my incredible.
I'm not a dev, but pretty sure you can't. The rom is hardware specific. Even porting a rom from the evo, which is very similar to the inc, takes a lot of work.
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forget it.
I was just using the nexus as an example, I am trying to learn this stuff and am using the kitchen to mod roms to my liking. Any info on fixing things broken on roms such as the recording in omgb
Just as an example. Ruby 2.0 puts a percentage in the battery icon, if I wanted to change the verizon wireless text to something else. Change a lock screen. Simple mods to a rom.
Hi,
Attached is a build of Honeycomb for DesireHD, I managed to find this by browsing the net and take no credit for creating it whatsoever.
I'm hoping one of our more clever members can do what needs doing with this to make it work on our beloved HD2.
Thanks.
http://www.multiupload.com/DLJ46IG55Q
Nobody is interested? Or is it a fake? Can anybody (with the right skills and tools) check this please.
???
Are you serious ?! someone can verify that build or can you make some screenshots ?
Could be, but dont know if his link is trusted.
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/72741/ontwikkelaar-installeert-android-honeycomb-op-htc-desire-hd.html
Also wrong section.
honeycomb is not really made for phones as I understand?
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honeycomb is not really made for phones as I understand?
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Yes that's what i read
but hey
DFT can make it a reality as usual XD
If you check the link in my post, ist already ported and working.
There is a video there to, its a Dutch site though.
Yes its ported to EVO & is working..!!!
PS: - I haven't tried yet though
The LINK
[ROM-DEV] ||Honeycomb on EVO||Alpha||SpyderComb||Honeycomb Android 3.0||2/17/2011||
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957842
It is a genuine link, I haven't tested because I don't have a desire, I have seen video footage of it running from the same source and I have inspected the file which looks about right to me, just needs correct drivers and repackaging I believe. If only I knew how to do the repackaging and which driver files were needed I would do it myself.
Yup this is built for tablets and not phones but there are a few tablets with screens not much bigger than our hd2's. It may not even be practical for daily use but I'd love to have a play. : )
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May be we can have a working one on our HD2's, can't say, DFT & the cheifs here ROCK..!!!
I like the lock screen & the home screen, it a really an evolution from the older Android Versions..!!!
So hope we get a working port pretty soon..!!!
here's a video for DesireHD release..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5-yO4FOAvI&feature=player_embedded#at=75
I know that mdeejay or one of the other devs on here could get it working in no time, I just don't have the knowledge, fingers crossed.
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the expert cooks should be working to port it to the archos tablets
Booted it on my HD2, but... it lags, nearly nothing works by now etc, and it's hard to hit interface buttons... not sure this will be really useful, but I'll try to work on it
Don't ask for upload please...
Can someone point me in the direction for a tutorial for creating clockwork mod roms please?
this would be probably better suited for viewsonic g tablet
Probably, would still be fun to play with on my phone though.
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I haven't had any fun
Nothing really works, sdcard mount, wifi, radio, bluetooth, etc etc, even some buttons are not properly mapped, so i couldn't turn the screen off, i haven't took a closer look though.
Default launcher, and some interface parts lag SO much
But this will really take time, cause everything should be fixed, and cause it's still preview SDK - not really worth it.
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I haven't had any fun
Nothing really works, sdcard mount, wifi, radio, bluetooth, etc etc, even some buttons are not properly mapped, so i couldn't turn the screen off, i haven't took a closer look though.
Default launcher, and some interface parts lag SO much
But this will really take time, cause everything should be fixed, and cause it's still preview SDK - not really worth it.
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i appreciate you taking the time and look forward to IF anything can be done.
Would someone mind posting the half working version so I can have a look please?
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I assume this is the correct forum otherwise please move this.
What is the best article(s) to read if you want to start learning how to port roms from other android phones to the Evo? I've been searching on here and on google and it seems most articles are either outdated or only talk about editing existing cooked roms so I finally broke down and posted this. Yes I do use Linux and I do program in Java and .NET and do have a bachelors in software development but I have just never looked into doing this type of work until now.
Thank you, any direction I'm pointed in is appreciated.
I'll direct to you the Q&A forum.
Side Note:This goes in General,but im nice so ill answer you question.
There is no real BOOK to read, a java book is a good start, but you say you know java, so you can probably skip that.
Basically, this is all you have to do.
Download "Dsixda's Kitchen" to your linux distro(amazing software)
Grab a rom from another device.
Grab one of our(evo)stock roms(deodexed Stock 3.70 is good for froyo port,4.12 for gingerbread)
Open the kitchen, and find the option(#19 i think it is), and follow the steps to port it(hold on, your not done yet)
From there you will need do some manual work by tinkering with libs,tinkering with the boot.img, bascally just tinkering with everything related to booting(libs,ramdisk,hw-libs,etc.) untill you can get it to boot or bootloop.
If it boots, thats great, if it bootloops, youlle need to logcat it then debug it.
If you need help with something, pm me, other than that, thats basically(*note: i said basic, more complexed roms like sense 3.0 and non-htc device rom may require extra work)(*note2:alot of times, its going to be a no-booter, but just keep trying.)
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I'll direct to you the Q&A forum.
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Thanks sirmx, I did do a search there but again came up short.
ThatSmartB0y said:
Side Note:This goes in General,but im nice so ill answer you question.
There is no real BOOK to read, a java book is a good start, but you say you know java, so you can probably skip that.
Basically, this is all you have to do.
Download "Dsixda's Kitchen" to your linux distro(amazing software)
Grab a rom from another device.
Grab one of our(evo)stock roms(deodexed Stock 3.70 is good for froyo port,4.12 for gingerbread)
Open the kitchen, and find the option(#19 i think it is), and follow the steps to port it(hold on, your not done yet)
From there you will need do some manual work by tinkering with libs,tinkering with the boot.img, bascally just tinkering with everything related to booting(libs,ramdisk,hw-libs,etc.) untill you can get it to boot or bootloop.
If it boots, thats great, if it bootloops, youlle need to logcat it then debug it.
If you need help with something, pm me, other than that, thats basically(*note: i said basic, more complexed roms like sense 3.0 and non-htc device rom may require extra work)(*note2:alot of times, its going to be a no-booter, but just keep trying.)
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Sounds good, what I'll do is go ahead and start one, nothing special maybe even ones that already been done just to get the experience under my best.
ThatSmartB0y said:
Side Note:This goes in General,but im nice so ill answer you question.
There is no real BOOK to read, a java book is a good start, but you say you know java, so you can probably skip that.
Basically, this is all you have to do.
Download "Dsixda's Kitchen" to your linux distro(amazing software)
Grab a rom from another device.
Grab one of our(evo)stock roms(deodexed Stock 3.70 is good for froyo port,4.12 for gingerbread)
Open the kitchen, and find the option(#19 i think it is), and follow the steps to port it(hold on, your not done yet)
From there you will need do some manual work by tinkering with libs,tinkering with the boot.img, bascally just tinkering with everything related to booting(libs,ramdisk,hw-libs,etc.) untill you can get it to boot or bootloop.
If it boots, thats great, if it bootloops, youlle need to logcat it then debug it.
If you need help with something, pm me, other than that, thats basically(*note: i said basic, more complexed roms like sense 3.0 and non-htc device rom may require extra work)(*note2:alot of times, its going to be a no-booter, but just keep trying.)
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Don't forget some of the most important stuff is in the build.prop and update-script.
Word of advice, look at a sense 2.1 and check out the base that was used. You can also use beyond compare and basically skip Linux all together. Using kitchen to deodex the ruu is a good first step. Choose option 11 in the menu.
Personally, I would start off with a working port and changing apps and moving stuff around. Also get a good list at which libs are associated with what. But use stock bins, etc, xbin, hw libs, and ported apks, framework, and software associated libs. Stock boot.img and a good updater-script. Also know key
Things like the EVO density is 160, vold_stab is usb, amkd is rotation, gsl hw accel stuff like that.
But first things first, Google is ur friend and use the q&a section.
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Leoisright said:
Don't forget some of the most important stuff is in the build.prop and update-script.
Word of advice, look at a sense 2.1 and check out the base that was used. You can also use beyond compare and basically skip Linux all together. Using kitchen to deodex the ruu is a good first step. Choose option 11 in the menu.
Personally, I would start off with a working port and changing apps and moving stuff around. Also get a good list at which libs are associated with what. But use stock bins, etc, xbin, hw libs, and ported apks, framework, and software associated libs. Stock boot.img and a good updater-script. Also know key
Things like the EVO density is 160, vold_stab is usb, amkd is rotation, gsl hw accel stuff like that.
But first things first, Google is if friend and use the q&a section.
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ah yes, forgot about build.prop,and i think the kitchen takes care of updater script(unless the device has specific mount pointsor you want text or to clear cache and system). i was just getting the basics to boot, from ther he can debug the errors out of the log.
What about something A LOT simpler like adding the CRT animations to a ROM? any pointers? Any TUT you can point me to?
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ah yes, forgot about build.prop,and i think the kitchen takes care of updater script(unless the device has specific mount pointsor you want text or to clear cache and system). i was just getting the basics to boot, from ther he can debug the errors out of the log.
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Oh I hear ya. Just throwing in my 2 cents. Found that having a clean updater-script is half the battle.
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I'm actually glad this thread is still here we don't get to learn much from the devs here. I mean its mostly do it yourself but a getting started guide isn't a bad thing. Mods are quick to move and people are quick to flame but I say leave it, where else is the knowledge pool? Can you really learn this stuff in Q and A seems like it would be mostly help my phone doesn't boot...
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Check out the APKTool, APKManager threads. Lots of great valuable information in there.
I sometimes wish XDA focused more on the "HOW TO" and less on the delivery aspect. The more folks developing, the further we will be along
Another great way to get started is to mentor with another established developer.
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I'm actually glad this thread is still here we don't get to learn much from the devs here. I mean its mostly do it yourself but a getting started guide isn't a bad thing. Mods are quick to move and people are quick to flame but I say leave it, where else is the knowledge pool? Can you really learn this stuff in Q and A seems like it would be mostly help my phone doesn't boot...
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Well said. People love to flame anyways and XDA is famous among other Android forums for being so harsh. This thread helped me out big time, and it's especially nice to see Leoisright and myn in here giving up a few pointers, because I too was curious about porting. I never worked up the confidence to ask, just too worried about it being passed over or getting flamed because I'm young and curious.
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Yah, Q&A never got me anywhere, i learned off of trial and error, still learning now.
EDIT:OP:IF you want you can ombine mine and leo's tuts together, to make this thread permanent.
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Good stuff!
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Yeah I want to thank the devs that have stopped by so far and gave tips, already using them . Hopefully most of them drop In at least once and leave one tid bit that would make this thread awesome!
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Ha, you taking applications for an apprentice myn?
myn said:
Check out the APKTool, APKManager threads. Lots of great valuable information in there.
I sometimes wish XDA focused more on the "HOW TO" and less on the delivery aspect. The more folks developing, the further we will be along
Another great way to get started is to mentor with another established developer.
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Yes I was afraid to post this at first which isn't good, you shouldn't be afraid to ask questions but I get that sometimes the same questions have been answered 100 times prior so I understand the quick to judge portion of it. But I want to thank everyone who has contributed tips, advise and places to start. Thank you.
Leoisright said:
Don't forget some of the most important stuff is in the build.prop and update-script.
Word of advice, look at a sense 2.1 and check out the base that was used. You can also use beyond compare and basically skip Linux all together. Using kitchen to deodex the ruu is a good first step. Choose option 11 in the menu.
Personally, I would start off with a working port and changing apps and moving stuff around. Also get a good list at which libs are associated with what. But use stock bins, etc, xbin, hw libs, and ported apks, framework, and software associated libs. Stock boot.img and a good updater-script. Also know key
Things like the EVO density is 160, vold_stab is usb, amkd is rotation, gsl hw accel stuff like that.
But first things first, Google is ur friend and use the q&a section.
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So I've been looking at beyond compare, did you use this from everything and just edit all the non evo files to match existing evo ones from within windows?
Okay, so I've had i317 for about 4 months now, its a great phone. I would just love to see an ics 4.0.4 rom, be it stock or aosp,, aokp, etc for this device. The reason being is that there are alot of apps I used to use, such as UMA and a few others I cannot remember as of right now. Forgive me if this isn't the correct area to post the question lol. But can anyone possibly help me with my issue I'm having? A. ort or something would be ideal if possible.
On a side note: I have some prior knowledge with developing roms and getting them to work fully and such, like betas alphas and what not. just haven't gave much thought as to post on the forum untill now. So I'm not completely of the noob calibur so to speak.
Lastly, my final question, would anyone be interested in deving up a 100% pure custom 4.3 rom that is completely Pokemon themed right down to the contacts and dialer. I will include more detail upon request, also one that isn't 10.1 based or cm in general. The reason I say non cm based is because volume+ sound boost breaks the speaker and crackles pretty badly, and i am partialy deaf so the apk is much needed. Any help would be be very appreciated and id be eternally greatful.
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Okay, so I've had i317 for about 4 months now, its a great phone. I would just love to see an ics 4.0.4 rom, be it stock or aosp,, aokp, etc for this device. The reason being is that there are alot of apps I used to use, such as UMA and a few others I cannot remember as of right now. Forgive me if this isn't the correct area to post the question lol. But can anyone possibly help me with my issue I'm having? A. ort or something would be ideal if possible.
On a side note: I have some prior knowledge with developing roms and getting them to work fully and such, like betas alphas and what not. just haven't gave much thought as to post on the forum untill now. So I'm not completely of the noob calibur so to speak.
Lastly, my final question, would anyone be interested in deving up a 100% pure custom 4.3 rom that is completely Pokemon themed right down to the contacts and dialer. I will include more detail upon request, also one that isn't 10.1 based or cm in general. The reason I say non cm based is because volume+ sound boost breaks the speaker and crackles pretty badly, and i am partialy deaf so the apk is much needed. Any help would be be very appreciated and id be eternally greatful.
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It's not going to happen. The note 2 was shipped with 4.1.1 (or higher) so there is no 4.0 source for devs to work with.
Also, since pretty much every AOSP rom uses the CM Theme Manager, it's not that common to see themed roms (there are exceptions, but they tend to be lightly themed). Either find a CM theme to your liking or learn to theme your rom.
Sorry my friend...
You aren't the only one wanting it...
I'd even take a nice CM6 ROM for this device...
But as mentioned... It's just a dream... g
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It's not going to happen. The note 2 was shipped with 4.1.1 (or higher) so there is no 4.0 source for devs to work with.
Also, since pretty much every AOSP rom uses the CM Theme Manager, it's not that common to see themed roms (there are exceptions, but they tend to be lightly themed). Either find a CM theme to your liking or learn to theme your rom.[/QUOTE
Okay, well shoot. Could you at least tell me that the possibility to get an apk to adapt and work on a newer rom is possible? I ask this because the main reason for me asking a dream question is simply that I love the ultimate mobile armor apk. it is the best privacy apk ever thought of. It was removed for reasons unknown. Back when I had my S3 and I717, it worked on both. Sadly it will not stick on the rooms I run currently. (Cleanrom 5.0, lionrom 2.1, etc.) Could the scripts and such be altered somehow for it to be compatible? On the S3 I always ran cm10 and its stick. Any thoughts, ideas and suggestions that are helpful and or leading to an apk exactly similar to ultimate mobile armour would be greatly appreciated.
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Apk alteration is very possible ...
The trick is finding a dev to work it out ...and since apps are owned by their respective creators ...you would need permission from him/her to use or modify the code...
And I've always said it ...
A few emails and pm's go a long way..
Hit up the dev and see what you can learn ...g
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gregsarg said:
Apk alteration is very possible ...
The trick is finding a dev to work it out ...and since apps are owned by their respective creators ...you would need permission from him/her to use or modify the code...
And I've always said it ...
A few emails and pm's go a long way..
Hit up the dev and see what you can learn ...g
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Ive looked and searched and I've found nothing from the devs of this apk. Its been completely stricken from the web. What are my other options here as far as these apk Modding concerns go? I've found nothing for secure mobile sadly.
I see...
That being said ...it appears the app has been killed off for legal reasons ??
And lookout mobile is inferior how ??
Most of these security apps are monitored via 3rd party in addition to device activity ...
So it stands to reason that if your service for the apk is dead....it won't work anyway..
Best advice...pick an alternate and move forward....
Lookout and AVG are both exceptional ...and many others are available ..
Norton or Mccaffe possibly too...
Happy hunting ...and sorry I couldn't be of more help...g
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