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Galaxy nexus beat windows phone

World demands justice for Galaxy Nexus owner who 'beat' Windows Phone
I knew we had a fast phone and this proves it.
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Huh?
Sent from the future.

Thread of the decade.

http://www.talkandroid.com/102027-galaxy-nexus-owner-beats-windows-phone-in-windows-phone-challenge/

I use both and eash OS has it's strengths and weaknesses. I actually prefer WP to Android except for my dirty little shame: Every Nexus I get turns into a portable torrent box. And since I don't have a computer this is my all in one. And they did a fantastic job with Android Chrome, I must admit.
But this pissing contest **** has got to stop.
Why can't people except that in some areas on different OS's will always be better. Some hardware specs will always be better. That's life. Personally? I root for a three horse race. Each OS, Android, iOS, and WP all pushing and pulling to stay ahead.
The end result? The consumer wins.

Bravo sir.. bravo
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I am a Windows developer and I don't like metro stuff at all. Guess we are going to get stuck with it but I absolutely hat eto be forced into any UI...

I LOVE MY GNEX!

Does anyone actually by Windows Phones?
I think Microsoft really dropped the ball. They were one of the few in the mobile smartphone game with their windows mobile platform. It was a true multitasking device that was capable of doing almost anything.
Then the iPhone came out and basically did less then WM phones just made things prettier. Know instead of Microsoft stepping up their game with their age looking UI they just hung back for a while.
Then came Android, which almost feels like it would have been the natural succession for Microsoft except they just waited. So all of us WM phone users started to jump over to Android. Now we are so happy there, why would we want to even try a Windows phone.

Q.Entity said:
but I absolutely hat eto be forced into any UI...
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So, how many Windows Shell replacements have you done? Because you're basically forced into the current Windows look.
I agree, I hate metro, too, but you've been 'forced into a UI' for a long time.

im going to try this, any tips to which rom to use?

"no the gsII is faster"

bmstrong said:
I use both and eash OS has it's strengths and weaknesses. I actually prefer WP to Android except for my dirty little shame: Every Nexus I get turns into a portable torrent box. And since I don't have a computer this is my all in one. And they did a fantastic job with Android Chrome, I must admit.
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you don't have a computer but multiple $500 cell phones?

neotekz said:
you don't have a computer but multiple $500 cell phones?
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Yep. At any given time I tend to have three or so and swap back and forth. Right now? Main EDC is a stock GN with a back up 4s. The 900 is my next and I'm considering a SGS3. If the SGS3 has TW puked onto it, that's out. I sell the 4s and move into the 5. If I find a Titan 2 cheap I may grab one to play with it. (Forgot to mention I'm still looking for a Finny.)
I love Mobiles.

I had an interesting 'battle' with a windows rep today. I beat her hands down loading a webpage. She wasn't very happy.
But she did beat me updating a Facebook status.
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Apollo?????

http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/apollo-update-not-coming-to-current-windows-phones
Not looking too promising eh?

I don't think so. First of all, it's too early to say something. Second, if MS will do it, they will completely lost mobile market.

I agree, They aren't doing exactly great at the moment and it would surely destroy them? Time will tell of course but it's interesting all the speculation that goes round before something like this, I hope we do get Apollo or even a lesser version of it, Look at Desktop OS, You have basic through to Ultimate editions although not entirely based on Hardware.

http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-ev...handsets-will-be-upgraded-to-windows-phone-8/

No one know what will happen to our handsets. I'd suggest that you read this article.

I know what's gonna happen to mine, It's heading for ebay and I will be returning to a Maxon MN1 lol.

AndyFZ1S said:
I know what's gonna happen to mine, It's heading for ebay and I will be returning to a Maxon MN1 lol.
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oh dear....
lololololol

Hmmm ? http://gizmodo.com/5902860/every-windows-phone-ever-will-get-the-windows-phone-8-upgrade

Budniu said:
Hmmm ? http://gizmodo.com/5902860/every-windows-phone-ever-will-get-the-windows-phone-8-upgrade
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What about this twist in the tale?
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-8-beta-report-what-features-are-in-place

Stop caring, enjoy your phone's.
All I want is live game streaming, and thats a app.
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vetvito said:
Stop caring, enjoy your phone's.
All I want is live game streaming, and thats a app.
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True man, after the HTC HD 2 saga,,here might come the another one, unfortunately I was one of the victim in HD 2 case. Now,sold my Mozart,bought HTC one X...enjoy the phone...
and care-less about it...

Just enjoy what you have till the end of the year, I highly doubt Apollo is going to be rolling in full force before then. Even if it does, I'd bet even more that some form of Apollo'esque update will also be hitting then for our earlier handsets.

Slower than others
Windows phone updates and upgrades are a lot slower than expected. With the whole world going gaga over Ice cream sandwich and io5, windows better step up.

Pratzgh1 said:
Windows phone updates and upgrades are a lot slower than expected. With the whole world going gaga over Ice cream sandwich and io5, windows better step up.
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Going gaga over Ice what?
None of the old phones but one has got ICS after it's announcement nearly half a year ago. If that is going gaga, MSFT is leap years ahead of that.
iOS5 - give you that. Again they have 1 phone to upgrade. Not 5-6 different OEMs with 2-3 phones each!

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Going gaga over Ice what?
None of the old phones but one has got ICS after it's announcement nearly half a year ago. If that is going gaga, MSFT is leap years ahead of that.
iOS5 - give you that. Again they have 1 phone to upgrade. Not 5-6 different OEMs with 2-3 phones each!
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I see what you did there....
please put your ios statement onto android...
Not only 5-6 OEMs and with 50+phone,tied with various carriers...

vetvito said:
Stop caring, enjoy your phone's.
All I want is live game streaming, and thats a app.
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Well said Vetvito,
No doubt we will all end up with the best bit of kit available at the time, personally it will hardly be the end of my world. Besides M$ have been playing this game for years and years, they know their roadmap and we along with the (slow news day) media dont ever have a clue.
There has always been speculation and a healthy amount of bull floating about regarding any update for any O/S or platform........but still i have a Windows phone........shocker huh.
Have a little faith, they havn't exactly shot you in the face yet and they arn't about to knowingly lose money/customer base now are they.
Kind Regards,
Creamy

Yeah it seems even theVerge is now getting on the Apollo updates might actually be happening road

Microsoft has a history of ****ing up successful lines , remember XP? They decided the time was right to migrate to Vista and cut off support to there "flagship" , that really worked out in there benefit considering more than half of all Windows users are still using XP , XP is 10 years old!!
Personaly I did migrate and am using 7-64 , but dumping the wp7 line for wp8 will alienate all of us who already got onboard , Im dev/interop unlocked , custom rom and if I cant get a custom rom with the update ,I will leave for Android and never look back , my Acer a500 is a year old now and it is better than anything being sold now because I can upgrade /downgrade do anything I want with it , the sky is the limit! In Microsofts world even the sky has limits!

Vintage144 said:
Microsoft has a history of ****ing up successful lines , remember XP?
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Mmm yeah. It's still the most widely used OS in the world. Not sure how it's F'd up. My parents use it all the time. No complaints.
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Personaly I did migrate and am using 7-64 , but dumping the wp7 line for wp8 will alienate all of us who already got onboard
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Mmm... If XP is any indication I will be using Windows 7 happily for years until I upgrade to whatever comes out after Windows 8. Windowss 8 is going to have zero impact on my computer use for years.
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if I cant get a custom rom with the update ,I will leave for Android and never look back
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MS doesn't care. They sell millions of phones to a bunch of people that will NEVER update them no matter what they offer. The problem is this place is one big geek circle jerk. MS and Nokia want to sell phones to teenage girls and business people. As long as the phone looks cool and covers the basic functions both groups are happy. They are not 20 something male software developers. They just want to text, email, talk, check the weather and play angry birds. The business people also want MS office and some kind of enterprise email calender solution.
They don't want to flash a custom ROM or root a device. If you want to see how the average consumer interacts with tech check out my post HERE.
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Windows phone updates and upgrades are a lot slower than expected. With the whole world going gaga over Ice cream sandwich and io5, windows better step up.
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The majority of people I know think "Ice Cream Sandwich" is a desert. This may come as a shock but the majority of smartphone owners to do not hang out on XDA. They do things like go to the park and get some sunlight and fresh air.

Vintage144 said:
Microsoft has a history of ****ing up successful lines , remember XP? They decided the time was right to migrate to Vista and cut off support to there "flagship" , that really worked out in there benefit considering more than half of all Windows users are still using XP , XP is 10 years old!!
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Just to be clear, they didn't cut support for xp until midway through 2010, and this wasn't to abandon xp for vista. It was after windows 7 was released. They didn't "force" people to use vista, they released something far superior to it, THEN forced you to use it, haha.
Edit: thanks for the next poster correcting this, Microsoft still supports XP and will for two more years.

Thinking of Getting a WP7 Phone - Need Suggestions

i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?

kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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You have two options. The Titan or Titan 2. There you go.

Being new to WP, know that the OS turns off WIFI when u lock the screen and uses cellular data only. No workaround as of yet except for plugging the phone in.

xsever said:
Being new to WP, know that the OS turns off WIFI when u lock the screen and uses cellular data only. No workaround as of yet except for plugging the phone in.
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wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?

kilus said:
wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
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So that battery lasts longer and to reduce world poverty.
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kilus said:
wow!! are you serious? why would stupid m$ft make this idiotic mistake?
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I'm expecting a Lumia 900 in the mail and was left speechless when I learnt about this. They're basically telling you won't stay connected if you're in a no-reception area although the wifi signal is there.
Yeah I find it stupid since they should at least give u the option. In poor reception areas, cellular data will eat ur battery in a matter of hours whereas wifi will be friendlier.

kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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1) Depends. What do you need the phone for? For tinkering, business, gaming, etc.?
2) Most Apps have a great User Interface. Also, the experience is coherent across the apps and the system. The number of apps is ok.
I would adivse you to get a data plan with a smartphone. WP7 is intended as always-online phone. If you don't have a data connection you will miss out a lot of cool features.
If you have time I'd suggest for Windows Phone 8 as it is currently not clear weather existing phones will be update.

kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
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No way of knowing whether it is "worth getting one" without knowing a heck of a lot more about your needs. To be honest an iphone, an Andriod phone or a Windows phone serves the needs of 90% of the population just fine. It all boils down to subjective preference. Figure out what YOU need to use your phone for and then see what each ecosystem has to offer.
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2) are the apps better than android apps?
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That you would even need to ask this question tells me you need to do a lot more research on the smartphone market in general. Windows Phone has fewer apps and no one I know has ever accused it of having "better" apps compared to Android. You need to figure out what apps you really use and see if Windows Phone has them. If you use 6 apps heavily and Windows Phone has them then it really doesn't matter if Windows Phone doesn't have 10,000 flashlight apps. Here's my setup...
Nokia Drive (Free GPS)
Whatsapp
Skype
Skydrive (cloud storage)
Netflix
ebay
Adobe Acrobat
Unofficial Samsung Remote
Facebook and Twitter support is built in. Of course you get MS Office as well.
There are a few others loaded but I don't use them much. I don't like a cluttered setup so I don't download a bunch of stupid apps that will only be used once or twice.
I will warn you Whatsapp doesn't do the multitasking thing in the best way on Windows Phone. My understanding is it takes longer to open than on the iphone or Andriod. This may be fixed with Windows Phone 8. I personally just hold down the back button to switch into the app as opposed to clicking on the live tile. It's faster.

4.7 Screen... you clearly have 2 option : HTC Titan or Titan II, both are AT&T Branded in US , Titan II are exclusive to AT&T.

HTC is the best choice in my opinion

xsever said:
I'm expecting a Lumia 900 in the mail and was left speechless when I learnt about this. They're basically telling you won't stay connected if you're in a no-reception area although the wifi signal is there.
Yeah I find it stupid since they should at least give u the option. In poor reception areas, cellular data will eat ur battery in a matter of hours whereas wifi will be friendlier.
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With your phone connected to power cord, it will keep the wifi connection while locked/asleep.

sitizenx said:
I will warn you Whatsapp doesn't do the multitasking thing in the best way on Windows Phone. My understanding is it takes longer to open than on the iphone or Andriod. This may be fixed with Windows Phone 8. I personally just hold down the back button to switch into the app as opposed to clicking on the live tile. It's faster.
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Thanks a lot for this piece of information.

kilus said:
i'm thking about getting a wp7 phone? i got an android phone and its got limitations. i need one with 4.7 inch screen. but its important that the apps are good.
1) is it worth getting one?
2) are the apps better than android apps?
3) whats the best wp7 phone with 4.7 inch screen?
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1) Up to you. I'm interested in getting a WP7 to play with.
2) Well, this is subjective. No, in my opinion. There are far less WP7 apps.
3) I'd say the Titan or Lumia, internally, there isn't much difference, They both have the same CPU etc.

sitizenx said:
No way of knowing whether it is "worth getting one" without knowing a heck of a lot more about your needs. To be honest an iphone, an Andriod phone or a Windows phone serves the needs of 90% of the population just fine. It all boils down to subjective preference. Figure out what YOU need to use your phone for and then see what each ecosystem has to offer.
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Exactly , Id say its more like 99% ,most people that have an android phone really dont know how powerful it is ,same with the iphone (which apple generally under powers) but the average joes doesnt care ,windows phone is no different except the interfaces are all different , I would gather you dont have root or a custom rom or even recovery on that android device , you wont need it on the windows device either (windows device do have some customization but not like android) if your happy with what the manufacturer gives you, your happy with what the software gives you and your satisfied with the carrier ,all three platforms are fine might as well throw in Blackberry and bada and symbian as well ,if your not gonna do anything with it than what "they" want you to do!
If you like customizing stick with Android otherwise apple or Microsoft will be fine!

If you are coming from Android like me get the Nokia Lumia 900 as its bigger and has free Nokia Drive navigation like google maps..
With HTC you have to pay for navigation which is lame.
Also Nokia CLear black display is as good as SGS2 amoled display.
and my lumia 900 lasts as much as the SGS2 ( 13- 19 hours) depending how much I use them
so personally I am a happy bunny

tfn said:
If you are coming from Android like me get the Nokia Lumia 900 as its bigger and has free Nokia Drive navigation like google maps..
With HTC you have to pay for navigation which is lame.
Also Nokia CLear black display is as good as SGS2 amoled display.
and my lumia 900 lasts as much as the SGS2 ( 13- 19 hours) depending how much I use them
so personally I am a happy bunny
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yeah but can you play android apps on an wp7 phone? i heard that you can with an emulator.. is this possible?

kilus said:
yeah but can you play android apps on an wp7 phone? i heard that you can with an emulator.. is this possible?
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No, you cannot.

The HTC Titan has FREE navigation (HTC Locations (latest update) for free, and it's nearly as good as Nokia Drive.
I can know that because I have the Titan Rooted with the Nokia Apps.
Ciao.

Just like IOS apps are coming to android, so are most of the apps coming to WP7, although games wise Microsoft is doing its XBOX games unlike gamelofts on android eg: angry birds is already on wp7

sianto1997 said:
The HTC Titan has FREE navigation (HTC Locations (latest update) for free, and it's nearly as good as Nokia Drive.
I can know that because I have the Titan Rooted with the Nokia Apps.
Ciao.
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it WAS FREE but it is no longer free, you have to pay like 40$ a month, so you can take that our of the equation.

Windows Surface Phone.. would you?

If MSFT were to enter the WP8 game with Windows Surface Phone or MSFT Surface Phones range would you buy it?
Just a wild wild dream.. because:
a) The launch of surface range has created a buzz on even iForums and DroidForums.
b) The tech guys generally have liked it
c) It has met the hype
d) It looks sexy and we know it will perform much better than we think
e) Windows branding might be the reason for no traction, Surface branding seems to be taken positively
so.. could Windows Phone 8 be the Microsoft Surface Phones? or just Surface Phones?
PS: I love the Surfaces (will get one on the release day!) and whole heartedly hope the new new new iPad doesn't copy Surface and come up with the same and better pad.

Why do we know it will work better than we think?

Probably because WP7 worked alot better than people gave it credit for .
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makoute said:
Why do we know it will work better than we think?
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because...
Dr.8820 said:
Probably because WP7 worked alot better than people gave it credit for .
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^^ That.

I don't care what they call it. All I'm hoping for tomorrow is the tiles with the ability to change their sizes, and the tiles with real information like the mail tile in Windows 8.
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I don't necessarily know if I'd go for the Surface, but I am excited for a Win8 tablet from Nokia.

Anseio you should be excited even for Surface. Even Vetvito is swayed by Surface. If it can please Vetvito, it can please any WP user
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drupad2drupad said:
Anseio you should be excited even for Surface. Even Vetvito is swayed by Surface. If it can please Vetvito, it can please any WP user
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Don't get me wrong... I'm thrilled about Surface
I would just prefer a Nokia... I like the aesthetics they design.

I'm definately tempted by the RT version of Surface especially if it gets priced correctly

There is one important difference between "Surface" Devices by Microsoft and "Nexus" Devices by Google. The Nexus devices have the benefit of being updated more regularly and earlier than competitors devices. It is highly unlikely that Microsoft will push update to their devices earlier. For Windows 8 it is a given that those will get Updates the same time everyone else does (second tuesday every month) and WinRT is likely to do it the same way.
And as Microsoft succeeded at least with Mango to push it worldwide around the same time I guess they would not stray from that path with new Windows Phones.
Given the partnership between Microsoft and Nokia I believe they will be relying on Nokia for their lead devices, given that Nokia has an All In Approach to the OS.
So I don't see it happening and if it were it would be a really good question why I would go with the Surface Phone instead of a Nokia (unless they build something that blows a PureView Nokia out of the water).

they gonna charge $600 and $800 for the thing... i think it is a way better deal than an iPad.
http://wmpoweruser.com/digitimes-microsoft-surface-rt-to-be-599-surface-pro-799/
I am looking at Samsung Slate Series also. They had some quite "wow" device at the Windows 8 Release Preview Launch.

keynote
watch the keynote from 13:30 to 14:30.
either the hardware is underperforming or the software is still beta.
neat concept. too bad about the bootloader.

Its still Beta, even the consumer preview has some major quirks.
One big issue is gaming and swiping, swipe anywhere near the top of the screen and you'll bring up the multi tasking window, thus ruining your game.
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I am looking it in a way what Steve said "Harmony of software with hardware". Can Nokia really know better hardware for MSFT software than MSFT itself? They are only partners after all. Also, am I the only one who thinks Surface devices are going to stand out in the sea of Lumias? However, Nokia do come up with plenty of classy designs from time to time.
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I'm in love again, I can't wait to get my hands on WP8, most of the stuff I wanted is finally here!
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I have to say this, WP7 was a complete disgrace, especially the launch OS.
With WP8 competition can really begin
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vetvito said:
I'm in love again, I can't wait to get my hands on WP8, most of the stuff I wanted is finally here!
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I'm excited, too! When Joe started to talk about the "new" start screen, I got worried. When they showed it, I screamed "YES!!!"

anseio said:
I'm excited, too! When Joe started to talk about the "new" start screen, I got worried. When they showed it, I screamed "YES!!!"
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Oh boy... i know what i want for Christmas this year... and now is all about what OEM can bring to us.

I was saving for a unlocked Galaxy Nexus, not anymore.
Bye Bye Android, it was fun. Back to my original love.
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Guys please post all the links you can find.
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Mac users?

As much as I dislike Crapple and there products I believe that I have to get a Mac for work :/
I was wondering if any of you guys had a Mac and how is it?
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best decision you can make trust me I have had to MacBooks and a mac mini. My Macbook has been nothing but great for college no slow starts, its there when you require it, will not freeze or let you down when you most need it. Theres less malware viruses ect for it so you feel a little more secure. Apple support is a plus this guys will fix any problem you have within warranty and aslong as you did not brake anything on purpose. Besides you can install virtual machine and run windows 8, xp, vista ect its like you have two computers in one.

IBTL
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dz1 said:
best decision you can make trust me I have had to MacBooks and a mac mini. My Macbook has been nothing but great for college no slow starts, its there when you require it, will not freeze or let you down when you most need it. Theres less malware viruses ect for it so you feel a little more secure. Apple support is a plus this guys will fix any problem you have within warranty and aslong as you did not brake anything on purpose. Besides you can install virtual machine and run windows 8, xp, vista ect its like you have two computers in one.
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Thanks, which one do you have?
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Or you could build a hackintosh for home. Sandybridge has made building and using one with lion a piece of cake. Under 300 bucks for a nice mac mini performance machine. It's funny how people won't admit to owning any apple products in these threads for fear of being pounced on. At least this section seems better than most.

What kind of job do you have that they would use mac? Macs suck at business stuff

rujelus22 said:
What kind of job do you have that they would use mac? Macs suck at business stuff
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Yeah, the integrated multiple desktops really are horrible :silly:

moeinyoho said:
Thanks, which one do you have?
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I have a MacBook unibody the one before the retina display have never had any problems. I recommend going to the apple store and trying them out on display.. Besides most people don't like Mac and yet they have never owned one.. So just try it out because what matters is what you want not what me or some one else likes... If you have a question just let me know Id be glad to answer

dz1 said:
I have a MacBook unibody the one before the retina display have never had any problems. I recommend going to the apple store and trying them out on display.. Besides most people don't like Mac and yet they have never owned one.. So just try it out because what matters is what you want not what me or some one else likes... If you have a question just let me know Id be glad to answer
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I work in IT and use them all the time. Actually fixing one right now. And from an IT stand point Macs are no good for buis. And you can run multiple OS's on any PC. That is not a Mac thing they just advertise it because they know you will need windows for something

Once you go MAC you don't go back to "PC"
been in IT since 1982.. been on MAC at my home office for 4 years now. I have 6 laptops of my own and 4 MACS also. 2 mbp, 1 macro, and 1 new while unibody for daughter at college.. I have serviced all pc's from Southern Cali to Washington DC. I have yet to fully need to break down a mac any place ... only hard drives if that. When I repair PC'S laptops at Colleges its always a windows' machine. The reason I switched over was the virus issues with PCs and the constant WTF i need to update today before I start working on my PC. Sure they both have trojans and mail ware. But PC's have viruses and MAC's do not. Meaning PC's can be made inoperable by malicious software a lot more often were as MAC will be used as pons in a greater hacking plan with implanted trojans.... but still operate. Many times without the user ever knowing. Last reason .. economics... take a look at the income scale of MAC user's .. usually a lot higher than your typical PC user. By no means am I saying PC users don't make more money than MAC users.. just are usually in my field experience in a more lucrative high paying career position than a trade "job". Granted you defiantly have infinite more options of software and best of breed hardware options building PC's. If you want to do what you want how you want .. build your own PC box. If you want to power up and get to work on the reason you power'd up every time you power up with out having to restart our machine after using it for extended periods of time opening and closing apps.. going in and out of hibernation/sleep mode for days on end..... MAC is the way to go. .................... on last note.. the pc are great .. mac's are great... the internet is bases off UNIX not DOS. MAC is based off UNIX. If dos went away.. PC would rule hands down. truly its not the hardware man.. its the software that's the issue. I for all OS's merging closely into one within the next 20 years... each upgrade of windows it becomes more MAC. its just how it goes. even Ubuntu with its unity desktop is following suite as well. out of all the computers in my home only one 2 year old Sony has Windows 7 Ultimate on it to flash my GPS and Pimped out Epizzal 4G's Touch.. LOL.. everything else Runs on OS-X and UBUNTU... .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon6.gif

Did you guys know that in a few years windoze will be releasing Microsux X ... I had to contribute!

Switched in 2010 and haven't looked back since. 2010 MBP upgraded to 8Gb of RAM and a 256Gb Crucial SSD, its been plenty fast, and loaded Win7 on it, but recently pulled that off and put XP on instead.
I was so impressed with it when my PC bit the dust I replaced it with a 27" iMac.

Lol just do Hackintosh. I have one and it beats the crap out of my friend's mac. Go for SB-E and then buy an IB-E cpu.
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Pc bit the dust aswell
TonyTurboII said:
Switched in 2010 and haven't looked back since. 2010 MBP upgraded to 8Gb of RAM and a 256Gb Crucial SSD, its been plenty fast, and loaded Win7 on it, but recently pulled that off and put XP on instead.
I was so impressed with it when my PC bit the dust I replaced it with a 27" iMac.
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same here... neVAAAAA going back to PC........ have the same 15 MBP did the same upgrade...also insalled Lion.. it just plain flies............
tried to bog it down by 1. dowloading 25 gigs torrent 2. burn 8.5 dvd 3. streaming music 4. streaming hd video 5 running AI to edit newspaper add 6. surfen web news sites 7. 3 machines RDP 8. backing up data to NAS 9. apple checking for updates.. ALL AT SAME TIME. AND THE MACHINE JUST KEEP SAYING "BRING IT!! BRING IT!" no lag what so ever!.
Sorry PC's.. since I'm not a big PC gamer.... My switch has been a long time coming.. I wish they would start the IM A MAC / PC commercials again too funny.. but all of them true. LMAO.:highfive:

No it's not true because you're comparing computers with intel processors that are far superior to all its predecessors. I can do the exact things you stated with my Core i7-920 machine with no hiccups as well because the jump from Core 2 duo/quad to first gen i7s was 20% increase in performance on average. 2nd generation and 3rd generation are 10-20% better than the first gen nehelams (depending on task).
It does not matter if it's a PC or a Mac. You'll be hard pressed to make any modern CPU from Intel or AMD choke in any way unless you're doing the most demanding of tasks where intel completely dominates.
An updated windows 7 machine from a QUALITY manufacturer (not the cheap hp/dell stuff in retail stores) will last as long as any MBP. There is a reason the commercials stopped. It just didn't work anymore against the improvements in Win 7.
Also i live in the state capital of CA and have family with seniority positions within the gov't and let me tell you. Even though literally everyone has an Ipad...
Out of the thousands of computers, I did not ever encounter mac's in huge quantities. Only windows or custom OS's.
Side note #1 - MBP's use SSD's which allow for insanely fast response times.
#2 - They do get viruses / malware and are usually the fastest to be hacked in any hacking competition due to extensive security vulnerabilities that they take forever to patch which is also one of the main reasons the PCvMac commercials stopped when MS got its act together.

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Lol just do Hackintosh. I have one and it beats the crap out of my friend's mac. Go for SB-E and then buy an IB-E cpu.
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I'm with you, 2 hackintosh sandy bridge machines dual booting windows 7 for the oddball stuff. These things are so easy to build and trouble free:good:

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been in IT since 1982.. been on MAC at my home office for 4 years now. I have 6 laptops of my own and 4 MACS also. 2 mbp, 1 macro, and 1 new while unibody for daughter at college.. I have serviced all pc's from Southern Cali to Washington DC. I have yet to fully need to break down a mac any place ... only hard drives if that. When I repair PC'S laptops at Colleges its always a windows' machine. The reason I switched over was the virus issues with PCs and the constant WTF i need to update today before I start working on my PC. Sure they both have trojans and mail ware. But PC's have viruses and MAC's do not. Meaning PC's can be made inoperable by malicious software a lot more often were as MAC will be used as pons in a greater hacking plan with implanted trojans.... but still operate. Many times without the user ever knowing. Last reason .. economics... take a look at the income scale of MAC user's .. usually a lot higher than your typical PC user. By no means am I saying PC users don't make more money than MAC users.. just are usually in my field experience in a more lucrative high paying career position than a trade "job". Granted you defiantly have infinite more options of software and best of breed hardware options building PC's. If you want to do what you want how you want .. build your own PC box. If you want to power up and get to work on the reason you power'd up every time you power up with out having to restart our machine after using it for extended periods of time opening and closing apps.. going in and out of hibernation/sleep mode for days on end..... MAC is the way to go. .................... on last note.. the pc are great .. mac's are great... the internet is bases off UNIX not DOS. MAC is based off UNIX. If dos went away.. PC would rule hands down. truly its not the hardware man.. its the software that's the issue. I for all OS's merging closely into one within the next 20 years... each upgrade of windows it becomes more MAC. its just how it goes. even Ubuntu with its unity desktop is following suite as well. out of all the computers in my home only one 2 year old Sony has Windows 7 Ultimate on it to flash my GPS and Pimped out Epizzal 4G's Touch.. LOL.. everything else Runs on OS-X and UBUNTU... .. http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/icons/icon6.gif
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Mac desktops are PCs... You know a personal computer. Just like Dells, HPs, Sony and the like. OSX is pretty but I'm not paying an arm and leg for a name brand. It's like Air Jordan sneakers. Every year its the same hing different colour higher price. Sometimes add some need giltz and glam.
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Just bought both an MBA 13" 2012 edition and the Asus Zenbook UX31A. It's my first time using a Mac and I've been a pro-PC person all my life, but I can honestly say that the Air is better than the UX31A, which is the top Ultrabook out right now. The specs are pretty identical, but this is a lot more intuitive and they are basically the same price.
But since this thread is about Android phones, I'll say that I usually just run Parallels to Windows 7 for my Android stuff because I CBA figuring out how Heimdall works instead of Odin haha. Otherwise, I think it's basically the same. Macs are pretty good with automatically finding drivers.

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Mac desktops are PCs... You know a personal computer. Just like Dells, HPs, Sony and the like. OSX is pretty but I'm not paying an arm and leg for a name brand. It's like Air Jordan sneakers. Every year its the same hing different colour higher price. Sometimes add some need giltz and glam.
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I think he was going abit more in depth. Like he stated unix is based to work with the internet DOS it's not.
Windows was never meant to be used with the internet
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