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As the title implies I think I did in my Epic 4g. I flashed the CM7 mtd build a few days ago and just found out about the 911 issue so i tried ODIN'ing back to stock and it was taking forever (it got stuck of factoryrfs.rfs if I remember correctly) so I unplugged the USB cable as I have done before when Odin freezes on me. When I unplugged the battery and then put the battery back in it will not boot or go into download mode. Any advice or did I actually brick it this time? Thanks
I have heard stories of leaving the battery out for a few days might help. Also holding the power button while inserting the battery. I haven't tried those options, but I have seen people mention them on the forums.
I did something similar the other day.
Remove the battery for a couple of minutes. Plug in with no battery and go to dl mode. You will be fine.
Ensure to use the pit file and select repartition when coming from mtd to stock
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Also u may wanna check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052813
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Hope u got it. Hell hath no anxiety like that of frears of bricking your epic
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Hope u got it. Hell hath no anxiety like that of frears of bricking your epic
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Advice above is good. Definitely try it with no battery or sd card using the computer as the power source try to put it into download mode. Others have had success popping the battery in and out trying to get into download mode. Hold all the buttons at once while battery is out to clear any capacitive charge.
I thought my phone was bricked thought it would not boot up at all,i after the third day I took it to sprint to get a replacement, I guess the 3rd day was the charm because as soon as the sprint guy put the battery in it booted up to clockwork and they said my phone was rooted and they would not service, good thing I didnt need them after clockwork any way
Thanks for all the quick responses. I left the battery out of the phone all night and tried popping out the battery and plugging the phone directly into my laptop via USB (HP touchpad cable) and still no go. I tried pressing all the buttons as someone suggested to reduce capacitive charge and still nothing, any other tips or am I going to have to visit the big yellow's at Sprint?
Hidden reset button
Ok, I havent tried this... and I also hear that the older epics dont have it. When you take off the back cover, There is a small hole by the camera. I cant find he the xda form maybe someone will be kinda enough and throw the link up.
But some claim that the hole by the camera is a reset button. poke it with a paper clip (gently?) for about 10-30 secs.
I hope this helps, or you get it working some way or another. I'd look into getting a new usb cable if I were you!
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Ok, I havent tried this... and I also hear that the older epics dont have it. When you take off the back cover, There is a small hole by the camera. I cant find he the xda form maybe someone will be kinda enough and throw the link up.
But some claim that the hole by the camera is a reset button. poke it with a paper clip (gently?) for about 10-30 secs.
I hope this helps, or you get it working some way or another. I'd look into getting a new usb cable if I were you!
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That is a myth imho.
Check the link in my first reply. If the issue is not hardware...somewhere in there should fix it
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Did you plug it into the computer with out the battery? Leave it out and attempt to go into download mode.
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Did you plug it into the computer with out the battery? Leave it out and attempt to go into download mode.
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I had the same craziness happen to me and it would not go even with the battery out. It did eventually...u have to go to download mode with no battery and odin back to life.
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My Epic won't turn on in any way. I can't get into download mode, can't get into recovery, can't boot in a standard way either.
I was in the middle of trying to Odin back to stock, and it wouldn't finish the download mode. I tried to flash one of the EI22 tars on the forums here, and it wouldn't finish. I tried the standard stock EC05, and it wouldn't finish either. I had to pull the battery/cord multiple times. I tried with different ports on my PC, different times using Odin, everything. Nothing worked.
So at some point after all this, it refused to go into download mode. In fact, it refuses to do anything at all.
Anyone got any advice? I'm at wits end.
Take the battery off. Make sure no cords are connected to the phone. Keep the battery off for about 5mins. Press and hold the power button for about 15 seconds. The put the battery back in and try booting into download mode.
Before u do any of these steps. What data cable are u using? The one that came with the phone, or another one?
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What version of odin are u using? Try using a different version of odin.
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Odin 1.85
Stock data cable.
Tried the battery out thing, but it didn't work.
Ok...so that u know, u can't use the stock data cable, its generic...u need a thicker cable , like a blackberry one. Not for to get ur phone back to life. On the back of ur phone with the battery cover off. There is a tiny whole, that's a reset button. With only the battery in the phone, place a paperclip in that hold and press it for 30 seconds. Then pull out the battery, then put battery back in. Try booting into download mode. See what that does
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This is a hard reset.... it should work.
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Ok...so that u know, u can't use the stock data cable, its generic...u need a thicker cable , like a blackberry one. Not for to get ur phone back to life. On the back of ur phone with the battery cover off. There is a tiny whole, that's a reset button. With only the battery in the phone, place a paperclip in that hold and press it for 30 seconds. Then pull out the battery, then put battery back in. Try booting into download mode. See what that does
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Lol the mythological hole is back!!!!! Just leave the battery out for a bit and hold the power button with the battery out for about 20 secs to get any left over charge out... with battery and sd card out hold down the power button and 1 key and plug into your computer while holding down and that should get you into download mode.... for future reference I have taken MANY epics (over 30) and there is NO BUTTON under that hole... no spot for a button at all... there is no hard reset and this is a myth... the people that have said they have gotten their phones back working after pressing this non existent button only got it back into download mode because they left their battery out long enough for it to reset itself... the "button" had nothing to do with it... disagree? Take your phone apart and take a pictue of the button... not the hole but the actual button... I guarantee you its not there!
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Interesting... I have never done that form of a hard reset, but a friend of mine has. There is videos on this all over youtube on this. But if u there isn't, than I really can't argue with that. Since I have not done it myself.
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Interesting... I have never done that form of a hard reset, but a friend of mine has. There is videos on this all over youtube on this. But if u there isn't, than I really can't argue with that. Since I have not done it myself.
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Watch those videos and send me 1 where they take the phone apart and actually sow you the button... its not there trust me... that being said though, it is extremely hard to completely brick this phone... not impossible but damn near... almost everything you do to this phone it can be recovered if you follow the sticky in developement entitled how to recover from a soft brick or bring it back from the brink... go there and do everything it suggests... btw please search before posting a new thread as this is in a sticky and tons of other threads... please search first!
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Okay so I left the battery and microsd card out of the phone for like 3 hours, came back and put it all in and it still won't turn on.
Is it really no good?
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Okay so I left the battery and microsd card out of the phone for like 3 hours, came back and put it all in and it still won't turn on.
Is it really no good?
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No what you want to do is leave the battery and sd card out and press and hold the power and 1 button and plug into your computer to get into download mode. The odin the ec05.tar with victory.pit and check repartition and reboot and you are good to go
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No what you want to do is leave the battery and sd card out and press and hold the power and 1 button and plug into your computer to get into download mode. The odin the ec05.tar with victory.pit and check repartition and reboot and you are good to go
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Should have done this from the begining you take the battery and sdcard and plug in the phone to the computer using the computar as the power source and go into download works almost everytime unless you slid brick it. If this doesn't work go online and buy a download mode jig there like 8 bucks or you can find a tutorial to make one..... this will reset the odin counter ( I think) and jump you into download mode.
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Should have done this from the begining you take the battery and sdcard and plug in the phone to the computer using the computar as the power source and go into download works almost everytime unless you slid brick it. If this doesn't work go online and buy a download mode jig there like 8 bucks or you can find a tutorial to make one..... this will reset the odin counter ( I think) and jump you into download mode.
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Yeah I told him that froom the beginning but I think he misunderstood. And the og epic don't have an odin counter... that's the epic touch
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Yeah I told him that froom the beginning but I think he misunderstood. And the og epic don't have an odin counter... that's the epic touch
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I didn't mean the counter but I know jigs will jump you into odin mode...... thus I put the (I think)
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Guess what gentlemen, that method didn't work for me before. I had to literally keep the battery out for awhile and then place it back in. I will tell u why. U don't know how stable the power source is on a usb port. Take a cable and plug it into a camera or something, start wiggling it just a little..it will start to flicker (turn on and off)...reason being...wear and tear on the port. That's why I never state that method.. I say this to u with all respect given.
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And the port can send a micro-static charge through the cable and right to the phone.. (google it) u will see what I'm talking about.
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Thanks for all the replies guys. I tried this to no avail either. I took the battery/sdcard out of the phone and left it for a minute, then held the power button down for 30 seconds or so... then I let that go and pressed and held 1 and power. Then I plugged in the USB cable. Nothing.
Tried plugging it in, then pressing 1 and power. Nothing still.
Phone still refuses to turn on. I'm going to leave it for an hour or two and give it some more time to discharge the capacitors, but I fear it may be bricked (something I thought pretty much impossible for an Epic 4G)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13245831
This should help you.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13245831
This should help you.
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I have read that thread, however it mentions nothing about a phone that will not turn on.
When ur phone doesn't turn on, its bricked. That explains how to unbrick it. If ur phone won't turn on at all no matter what...u may have to take it to sprint for a relacement. That's ur last and final option.
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So I was running the rooting process and it started the writing the kernel without error but then it just sat there for a very long time (over an hour) without any action.... I started getting concerned about battery drain so I went ahead and rebooted.
My phone wouldn't boot, just do the "invalid firmware" thing but I was still able to POWER+VOL-UP to bring the rom flashing menu up. At this point I figured I had very little battery left so I wanted to charge it up a bit before trying to flash again.
I didn't realize that the phone won't actually charge without a valid firmware. I came back an hour later and couldn't POWER+VOL-UP again, it would say "LOW BATTERY, CAN'T DOWNLOAD ROM" or something along those lines.
So, I'm pretty sure I could still flash something if I could still get to the menu. I can't get to the menu beacause the battery won't charge and the battery won't charge until I can re-flash.... talk about a catch22!
Any suggestions before I go try to cash in my best buy warranty for new phone? (I figure that I can blame it on an OTA firmware update because no rooted kernel/rom ever got loaded)
Get an external battery charger from ebay and charge the battery then try again?
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Get an external battery charger from ebay and charge the battery then try again?
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Yep good advice. I have two spare batteries plus external charger. Its really a good investment and on eBay its not expensive.
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Ya and when you do try again try a different cable other than the one odin froze with. When I first used odin it kept failing I switched cables and then it worked flawlessly. Also about the battery instead of waiting until you get your external charger or second battery I would try to go down to your local sprint store or bestbuy and ask them if they can charge the battery for you.
Cut off the end ofa USB cable. Foretaste and red and black wires. Look at your battery, the positive and negative terminals are labeled. Put your battery back it, but don't push it in all the way, leave a 1/4" gap. Place the red write on the positive terminal, black on negative triple check this, very important. Push battery in making sure the wires are secure. Plus other end into USB port on computer. Insert your other USB cable into to the phone, the other end into computer. Hold vol down and power. Wait until phone turns on. Press volume up. Flash gaging's rooted stock room with Odin. (download the .exe file and double click, it's really as simple as that).
That should work. It did for me.
Then search XDA for "mobile Odin". Find and download steady Hawkins' kennel and flash that through mobile Odin.
From there download a ROM, I suggest Calkulin's. Reboot into recovery and flash.
Now you are rooted, and have a custom ROM
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Cut off the end ofa USB cable. Foretaste and red and black wires. Look at your battery, the positive and negative terminals are labeled. Put your battery back it, but don't push it in all the way, leave a 1/4" gap. Place the red write on the positive terminal, black on negative triple check this, very important. Push battery in making sure the wires are secure. Plus other end into USB port on computer. Insert your other USB cable into to the phone, the other end into computer. Hold vol down and power. Wait until phone turns on. Press volume up. Flash gaging's rooted stock room with Odin. (download the .exe file and double click, it's really as simple as that).
That should work. It did for me.
Then search XDA for "mobile Odin". Find and download steady Hawkins' kennel and flash that through mobile Odin.
From there download a ROM, I suggest Calkulin's. Reboot into recovery and flash.
Now you are rooted, and have a custom ROM
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That battery idea seems a little risky to me but if you feel comfortable doing it then go right ahead. I would take it to sprint and have them charge the battery personally though. Other than that though ya I would do what this person is saying thats basically the same thing I did when I almost bricked my phone.
The phone won't charge when it's totally off ? It usually will but will not in Odin or recovery mode ...weird thing is it uses more power in recovery than with phone booted
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The phone won't charge when it's totally off ? It usually will but will not in Odin or recovery mode ...weird thing is it uses more power in recovery than with phone booted
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That is what I was wondering myself because I had a problem that I thought was my phone but it was a bad plug in my house. When I would charge it when it was booted up it would just say battery disconnected so I would charge it when it was off and that worked fine. Also ya it does use more power in recovery especially if you are flashing.
What's risky about giving your phone 5volts? The battery is more than 5 volts..
You don't have to use odin to root the Epic 4G Touch anymore. There's updated ways to root it and the latest ways won't give you that yellow triangle. Go on youtube and check out "QBKING77" channel. He has the latest ways to root and all on the E4GT.
Have you tried taking the battery completely out, plugging in the charger and try getting into Odin mode? I bricked mine a few Weeks ago and used Odin with out my battery even in and put my phone back to stock then re rooted. I had the battery out because the min I put it in I had a black screen and nothing worked.
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You don't have to use odin to root the Epic 4G Touch anymore. There's updated ways to root it and the latest ways won't give you that yellow triangle. Go on youtube and check out "QBKING77" channel. He has the latest ways to root and all on the E4GT.
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In his latest video you actually are using odin its just a one click odin that is all set up for you.
I am confused and sorry for that but what's wrong with sfhubs method for rooting. Also if you brick your phone its bricked and done. To me there is no bricking and fixing, if it still comes on or you have a light its not bricked. I would suggest if you get your phone at least up and running use sfhubs method its pretty damn fool proof. Hope you get your phone fixed....
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In his latest video you actually are using odin its just a one click odin that is all set up for you.
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Oh yeah that's for EL29 latest update. I was referring to the method before that. Where people can be on all types of set ups EK02, EG31, ect. My experience with EL29 sucks. I hate it. Why did Samsung mess up the wallpaper background movement it had before. Only good thing about EL29 for me is removing that CIQ.
Thanks everyone, for all the help and info - it's all greatly appreciated!!!
Quick answers:
- I did try removing the battery and using just the charger without the battery but the phone won't turn on. I don't believe my EVO or Hero ever did either (but maybe the old TouchPro's ?)... anyway...
@CBowely - I like your idea and yeah, 5v should be OK as long as I dont get my +/- mixed up but I think, assuming I have time tomorrow, I might try the store first. I'm in no major rush, my EVO is still up and running.
I got the 4GT at BestBuy Mobile and their warranty seems a little more flexible than Sprint's so I'll go in and say that the battery died during the EL29 firmware OTA update (which I actually selected CANCEL to, so I could root it pre-EL29). Best case scenario, they fix the battery and put it back to stock or give me a new phone, I go home and try again. Worst case scenario, I at least get the battery charged.
Final update to the thread: Took the phone back, they gave me a new one but it was an EK02 so I've had no problems rooting it!
Hey not really a noob, been flashing rooms since I had my vibrant. Flashing this morning ran into an issue. Was using Odin, said passed, disconnected my phone and its been completely unresponsive since. No charge no recovery, no download. I just think I'm doing something wrong, anyone have precise steps to check to see if it will enter download mode from this state so I can flash back to stock at least?
Feel free to move or link to a thread with the answer.
try removing your battery sim card and micro sd card for 5 min then then plug the wire back to phone while holding both volume buttons then put all your sim sd and battery back (OR JUST YOUR BATTERY IS FINE)and see if it reads it now ?
So the wire should be plugged in the wall or computer?
Still nothing. Just hoping I don't have to get rid of it
The wire should be plugged into the computer assuming you have all the Odin files you need to flash it back
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Yeah it didn't work. Still unresponsive, a jig should work no? I just need to get into download mode, flashing back is the easy part
yes a jig will most certainly work get one on here this is the one i have http://www.amazon.com/SainSonic-Don...id=1365710755&sr=8-1&keywords=samsung+usb+jig works like a charm takes 2/3 days and your good to go hit the thanks if i helped
If the phone is completely dead after unplugging in the middle of odin then the phone will most likely not boot up even after using a jig...the reason i say this is because the same thing happened to me and i tried the jig but nothing your best bet might be to claim the warranty if you still have it (usually lasts for 1 year or more if you have their plan) and act stupid when you go to tmobile...
I somehow managed to brick my phone. Three button combo does not work. However Odin v1.87 sees my phone when i connect it to my pc. Also i hear that USB connection sound but nothing i have tried can get my phone into download mode. So in my case would a usb jig would work considering the phone is still not fully dead i believe ?
Odin sees your phone if it's bricked it wouldn't see it. How does it see it? You are only fully bricked if you got nothing period or computer reads phone as QHS_USB_ DOWNLOAD MODE. I bought a usb dongle for $ 5 at amazon. Works great just plug it in and 3 seconds you are in download mode so it's worth it to get one in case you need it. Try getting into download by turning off phone, while its off take out battery and hook phone up to computer. Now keep both volume up and down
pressed while you put battery back in. If you do it right you should get into download mode. As long as you can get the phone to boot at least the samsung logo it can be fixed.
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Odin sees your phone if it's bricked it wouldn't see it. How does it see it? You are only fully bricked if you got nothing period or computer reads phone as QHS_USB_ DOWNLOAD MODE. I bought a usb dongle for $ 5 at amazon. Works great just plug it in and 3 seconds you are in download mode so it's worth it to get one in case you need it. Try getting into download by turning off phone, while its off take out battery and hook phone up to computer. Now keep both volume up and down
pressed while you put battery back in. If you do it right you should get into download mode. As long as you can get the phone to boot at least the samsung logo it can be fixed.
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Is the USB dongle reusable... Or is it just a one time use
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Yes reusable look at the pic below. Just type in usb dongle on google and it will come up for you everywhere.. $5.00
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