HTC7 vs Samsung Focus on ATT - Windows Phone 7 General

So I posted last night about my Focus going down for the count, and well they don't have any in stock currently but I can wait 5-7 business days for one or get a HD7 has anyone tried both here? I know the expandable memory and AMOLED is an advantage on Focus but which on is better for someone who already knows how to use WP7 just want to figure my best option.

They are essentially the same. I have both. Hd7 has a larger screen. The focus has a louder speaker I'm my opinion.
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For your sake do NOT downgrade to the HD7s. The battery life, even post mango, is comical at best. The build quality is not even half as good, the SLCD screen is not on par with samoled, and the buttons will almost certainly be hit during any game. As far as 1st Gen devices go, focus and DVP reign supreme.

I had the HD7s for a while, until I dropped it in a glass of Jack and Coke (long story)...but I ended up getting a Focus to replace it. The screen on the HD7s is much larger than the Focus but nowhere as good. I liked how the HD7s felt in my hand, has a little weight behind it whereas the Focus is the lightest phone i've ever had. Can't really tell a difference in battery life, but I used them nonstop so I always have to charge them anyway. But like Anthonok said, they're basically the same although with HTC you're able to flash different roms.

buffalosolja42 said:
So I posted last night about my Focus going down for the count, and well they don't have any in stock currently but I can wait 5-7 business days for one or get a HD7 has anyone tried both here? I know the expandable memory and AMOLED is an advantage on Focus but which on is better for someone who already knows how to use WP7 just want to figure my best option.
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Nah...the HD7 is sweet and all, but it doesn't have a WP7 enhancing SAMOLED. I had an HD7, I also have other non-OLED based phones, but with WP7, I firmly believe, because of WP7's style, there is no better display than OLED based. I can honestly say my Focus has not gotten old on me. Having that beautiful tile-based OS on the perfect black background charms me to no end.
You can go ahead and try an HD7, but I bet within the return period you might be tempted to return it for the Focus because you already know the charm of SAMOLED with WP7. However, bare in mind, within 1 week the Focus S will be released. It will be a substantial improvement on the regular Focus with SAMOLED+ and greatly increased specs, hardware and features.

Thanks guys Focus it is and noticed the screen difference at the store, and WP7 would do much better if the reps knew anything about after I showed an RSC how to utilize it he said it would be easier to push.
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Picking your next Windows Phone... What is your priority feature?

Thought this might be interesting if I go by things I read on different threads.
This won't be the case but let's assume you can get any phone on any carrier and price isn't an issue.
How would you pick your next phone?
I allowed for multiple choice but try not to vote for 6 out of 8 or this won't teach us anything specific. And if you picked "Other", what did you have in mind?
Other: gyroscope support and > 1 GHz processor
My most important features: Screen size (less than 4"), Camera (high quality with dual led), and something not there build quality.
I am pretty much all in for the Nokia 800. Second choice is the Samsung Omnia W.
For me there has to be a hardware keyboard - I just hate capacitive touch keyboards.
Price, can't be more than $100 with no contract. And of course, significantly better than my LG Quantum, otherwise I have no reason to upgrade.
I LOVE massive phones, I went from my HD2, to an HD7, and if God would answer my prayers, the Titan would come to T-Mobile, though, soon enough it won't matter as I'm hoping we become AT&T. So, I voted for FFC since it's already a given to me that I'm going for a big phone. Screen type would probably be a close second for me, as I like the HD7 screen, but really wish it were a higher quality, but hey, I'm asking to be spoiled now, right?
It's odd to see one user out of two ready to buy a phone on its brand alone
I personally go for what I find better overall regardless of the OEM.
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Price, can't be more than $100 with no contract. And of course, significantly better than my LG Quantum, otherwise I have no reason to upgrade.
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Yeah I guessed price would come up for many people as well as choice given by the carrier which is why I said in the first post regardless of price and availability
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It's odd to see one user out of two ready to buy a phone on its brand alone
I personally go for what I find better overall regardless of the OEM.
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I personally love HTC, I know I'm probably in the current minority, for some odd reason as they're the only phones to consistently update without an issue, but Nokia is also winning over my heart.
I really want my Mozart to be my last HTC ever. But it's been my desire to abandon them since like 2005, and I still was forced to buy their stuff because others were mostly even worse.
In your list, it goes like this: screen less than 4", 16GB minimum (64 preferred), usable camera, 1500+ mAH battery. No pentile crap. Looks are also kind of important, but I can live with something less than stellar.
The leaks and announcements really make me sad, I don't see anything really attractive. SeaRay is almost there but it looks like it'll come with PenTile, so it's most probably a no go...
I'm with FiyaFleye, I like HTC and and have seen problems that would affect with other OEMS that I don't have with my Fuze. Nokia I have no idea on that but haven't had one in 4 yrs and it was a dumbphone. However not willing to wait another 3 months+ for them either. I would like a hardware keyboard with a smaller screen would be first choice, or go with a big screen so I can type well. Extra nick nacks are always a plus if they are usable, and 1 gig > processor for some future app usage is good too.
This list would have been so much easier in Aug before they started announcing phones, I'm just waiting for mine to come to the USA.
I'd love to get my hands on a Nokia WP7 phone, but that could take a while and the HTC Titan is kinda expensive over here.
I'll prolly just get a Samsung Omnia W if I get too impatient, really wanna see what the better CPU/GPU can do for my emulator.
Also I'd really like to see some 32GB storage phones, 8GB is just killing me on my Trophy.
1. Storage, it must be at least 32gb
2. Nokia
I will only consider getting a phone that isn't a nokia if the storage space is 32gb or above (and nokia only offer 16gb variants).
If storage space doesn't improve by the end of the year I will probably jump ship to android, even though I prefer Windows Phone my music collection is a must for me.
I'm hoping *fingers crossed* that the Nokia 800 will come in 16gb and 64gb variants like the N9 and thus will be my next phone (in blue )
Manufacturer is gonna come into play for my next WP7. IE i'm not having another Samsung phone.
I went with screen size. 3.5" ish would be good. Also, want good battery life. At least a 1500mah battery.
Funny how so few people picked FF Camera when it's supposed to be an epic fail not to have it since Apple "invented" video chat
I would have bought that Samsung Omnia 7 W like today if it came with 16 GB...
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1. Storage...at least 32 GB
3. Camera quality
3. Screen quality
I don't know any one that actually uses the FFC...nothing but a gimmick.
I´m asking myself if I need a new WP in general...
My OMNIA 7 has all features I use daily (less DLNA and skype support).
So today I took a look at the new HTC devices:
1. HTC Omega is too small.
2. HTC Titan is too big for my taste.
The display is much better than the HD7 display but not even better than the OMNIA 7 display. Also the general quality of the phone is very good: less plastic parts and good working hardware buttons (compared with the HD7).
Do I need a HTC Titan 4.7" notebook in my pocket ? I don´t think so.
The upcoming OMNIA W will only have 8 GB, maybe 16GB... is this what I need ? I don´t think so either.
A general question is: Do I really need a FF cam ? How many videocalls I made in the past ? I only made normal voip calls...
I would say the only hope is that the NOKIA Empire strikes back... and I don´t think that the new devices will have more than 16 GB.
I hope that I´m wrong, but I think it´s better to wait 3 or 4 month before buying a new WP.
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I never thought I'd say this, but camera is my #1. Since everyone seems to be pinching pennies these days and both of my old 5MP point-and-shoots are just crappy, my phone has become my #1 camera for both stills and video. I remember when cameras first came out on cell phones and I was thinking, "why?" All that, and baby is now 12 weeks old, so I'm taking pictures like crazy!
Screen size is a close second. I doubt I could ever go smaller than my 4" Focus screen at this point.

[Q] Why bother?

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I really like the idea of the Galaxy Nexus.
I'm a former Nexus One user, I still have it in the box it came in with the Desktop dock and Car dock too. I'm holding on to it for ever!!!
I passed on the Nexus S because I didn't want a Samsung Phone. I love the way HTC makes their phones. I bought into the hype about their phones feeling "cheap" and "plasticy".
I decided to replace my N1 with a Sensation which has been a pretty big disappointment.
When the GN was announced I decided to swallow my dislike for Samsung's phones and go for it. After reading about the specs it seemed like a decent phone, Nothing groundbreaking just decent maybe even a little sub par when compared to some of the top of the line phones. The only really stand out things about it are the software, which most of the top tier phones will be getting upgraded to at some point.
NFC? It's cool but I can't see using it that much. I think I've run into one other person that was using a Nexus phone and I didn't care to swap info with them. I'd probably pay for stuff with it but I still have to carry a wallet so it's not going to replace my debit card.
Camera? 5mp that's less than 8mp seems like a pretty big step down from what every "top tier" phone out there. Hopefully the low light performance will be really good but somehow I'm expecting disappointment.
Big Screen? I love it big, but then I read about the Galaxy Note.
Pure Google? I've been there with everything up to Gingerbread and I have to say it was barren. I'm on sense now and I've tried (a few times) giving it up to use ADW to get that stock launcher experience I didn't last long. Compared to Sense 3 (I think) Gingerbread is VERY ugly and misses out on a lot of niceties that I've grown accustomed to in Sense.
At least it'll probably get updates first.
It seems like every time I turn around some company is releasing a phone that bests the GN in every way, SGSII, RAZOR and today I read freaking LG has got a phone with a killer display more pixels or something like that.
With that in mind how do you keep your excitement up about this phone?
when it comes to phones, its the software that makes the device, not the hardware......with a Nexus device you will always be on the latest and greatest, nothing is more frustrating to me than to be behind 1 or 2 software releases
Megapixels in cameras are not everything.
The support on Nexus phones is unparalleled. Samsung make good phones. I would get over the plastic hate and get the Nexus. You are on the Nexus forum so you clearly want us to talk you into it
That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.
Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.
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Megapixels in cameras are not everything.
The support on Nexus phones is unparalleled. Samsung make good phones. I would get over the plastic hate and get the Nexus. You are on the Nexus forum so you clearly want us to talk you into it
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I'm totally here to be talked into it .
I will totally admit to unfairly jumping on the "Samsung makes cheap feeling phones" bandwagon. HTC phones have weight, Samsung phones are light.
Yes Megapixels aren't everything but they do count for something.
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That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.
Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.
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Of course they're getting updated, but they'll be updated 3+ months after the Galaxy Nexus comes out.
That Samsung build quality stigma is FUD. Is all plastic, but my nexus s is the most solid feeling phone I've had. Light and rigid. I've dropped it on tile and wood floor and keep it in my pocket with no protection except that it's by itself. It still looks mint with zero screen scratches since March.
Don't buy into the megapixel myth. The sensor quality and optics are more important. 5mp is more than any cell phone needs, and provides plenty of resolution for larger prints. most use cases are social networking which does not need even a fraction of that resolution. Wait to see camera reviews and comparisons after people get their hands on shipping product.
You do sound a little confused about what phone you want. There's plenty of good products from various manufacturers with good qualities. What you will get from the GN is vanilla Android, timely updates, a solid all-around performer from a hardware standpoint (maybe not the best at any one aspect, but a formidable complete experience), and the warm fuzzies that super geek Android fans get for nexus devices. That may not be right for you, but that's what it is.
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My first android phone was the Droid X, I loved it as am android noob, then I rooted, then I flashed my first ROM, then CM7 came out for the DX, then I dropped it in a puddle... I was pretty disappointed when my insurance sent me an X2 as a replacement, but I've made it the most enjoyable I can by making my own ROM for it. Now I realize Moto will never stop locking their phones and hardware specs aren't everything, its about the software, which is why I'm 90% sure I'm going to be picking up the Gnex when my upgrade comes at the end of January. I've never owned a Samsung phone and am still skeptical about the build quality, hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised when I buy it
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What do people equate to build quality?
Do you know a phone that people says has the best build quality?
The iPhone 4 and 4s
Do you know what phone when drops shatters?
Thats right the iPhone 4 and 4s.
Judging build quality by feel alone is stupid. Quality means the grade of the materials used and how they are used. A plastic phone using really good plastic is a higher quality phone then a shattering glass phone.
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Do you know a phone that people says has the best build quality?
The iPhone 4 and 4s
Do you know what phone when drops shatters?
Thats right the iPhone 4 and 4s.
Judging build quality by feel alone is stupid. Quality means the grade of the materials used and how they are used. A plastic phone using really good plastic is a higher quality phone then a shattering glass phone.
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The iPhone 4 and 4S are extremely high quality. They're just... made out of glass. Obviously they're going to break when you drop them. Just like a window will break when you throw a cinder block at it. That doesn't mean the window is low quality....
Their reinforced glass is not as good as gorilla glass, I heard.
The one aspect that people seem to be taking for granted also is that because of all these specs and the Nexus name. Galaxy Nexus is going to have a much larger developer following for rooted customization. Also, when you are looking for a new product what better way to narrow down what to get than to ask an expert...well, developers largely choose Nexus.
(Before someone attacks me with the typical response "not everyone wants to root ". No not everyone does. This was Simply offered as one more possitive to add to the Nexus checklist. )
When it comes down to it. everyone should buy what they want cause no one else cares.
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You don't buy the Nexus for the hardware. If my Nexus One would have worked on Verizon I would still be using it.
Let's be honest, if you're regularly browsing this site, chances are you're atleast toying with the idea of rooting the device (if not in the, "The thing will be rooted before I get a text" category).
The Megapixel hype is just that. It's kind of like America's fascination with horsepower -- yes your GT500 outputs crazy numbers, but it still can't turn.
-insert flaming-
Nother Sensation owner here waiting to bounce on the GN for dev support. I will run CM9 or a MiUI ICS variant more than likely. I'd prefer to have the most choice for kernels and roms over slightly better hardware. Do we really need 4 cores in a phone?
Ironzey said:
That used to be the case. However with the announcement of ICS and the subsequent announcement from HTC, Samsung and others that ICS would be coming to their later phones it seems like the update argument may not be as valid as it used to be.
Even though I don't see that much use it NFC. Going forward, I won't consider a phone without it.
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No, that still is the case. Even though a manufacture says they will release an update it will never be timely. As manufactures produce more and more models of phones their support goes down the drain. My Samsung Vibrant never got an official update that was promised. The thunderbolt finally got gingerbread.
My G1 was my favorite phone. Great support by htc, google and devs. It always had the latest version of android, even when its hardware could barely run it.
I would rather have a well supported phone than the highest spec phone. While the galaxy nexus appears to have average hardware it will have great android support and dev support.
Availability of developers.
CAN'T STAND OS delays.
Beautiful bezel.
No HD screen + RGB notification combos on Tmo.
That's if this retarded phone ever comes out for Tmo.
Inused to be HTC supporter. But after I got The old Desire, I vowed to not get any HTC anymore. I dislike Sense and replaced with LP pro.
Then I got the Nexus S, and feel really like the design and overal feeling. All blacks, with super Amoled, seems elegant and mysterious.
And it is much lighter as well.
On top of that Qualcomm is not as fast as Hummingbird, Exynos, or now TI Omap.
Nuff said, no HTC anymore.
Nexus phone all the way
Ironzey said:
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I really like the idea of the Galaxy Nexus.
I'm a former Nexus One user, I still have it in the box it came in with the Desktop dock and Car dock too. I'm holding on to it for ever!!!
I passed on the Nexus S because I didn't want a Samsung Phone. I love the way HTC makes their phones. I bought into the hype about their phones feeling "cheap" and "plasticy".
I decided to replace my N1 with a Sensation which has been a pretty big disappointment.
When the GN was announced I decided to swallow my dislike for Samsung's phones and go for it. After reading about the specs it seemed like a decent phone, Nothing groundbreaking just decent maybe even a little sub par when compared to some of the top of the line phones. The only really stand out things about it are the software, which most of the top tier phones will be getting upgraded to at some point.
NFC? It's cool but I can't see using it that much. I think I've run into one other person that was using a Nexus phone and I didn't care to swap info with them. I'd probably pay for stuff with it but I still have to carry a wallet so it's not going to replace my debit card.
Camera? 5mp that's less than 8mp seems like a pretty big step down from what every "top tier" phone out there. Hopefully the low light performance will be really good but somehow I'm expecting disappointment.
Big Screen? I love it big, but then I read about the Galaxy Note.
Pure Google? I've been there with everything up to Gingerbread and I have to say it was barren. I'm on sense now and I've tried (a few times) giving it up to use ADW to get that stock launcher experience I didn't last long. Compared to Sense 3 (I think) Gingerbread is VERY ugly and misses out on a lot of niceties that I've grown accustomed to in Sense.
At least it'll probably get updates first.
It seems like every time I turn around some company is releasing a phone that bests the GN in every way, SGSII, RAZOR and today I read freaking LG has got a phone with a killer display more pixels or something like that.
With that in mind how do you keep your excitement up about this phone?
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I tried to use a SGSII but couldn't live with it. Was coming from a Nexus S and before that I owned a N1. It just didn't feel right. It came shipped with 2.3 then after some time 2.3.4 hit when I sold it a month ago 2.3.5 still wasn't official available. In addition they added a strange bootloader which stopped you from flashing CM7. I don't know exactly what happened there but it was one of the points which led me to sell the phone. I'm using a Desire now until I receive my 100% free GN.
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I'll probably just keep my NS for now. All other smartphones sound lame in comparison to the NS + Voodoo Sound.

[Q]Anyone upgrade from the hd2?

I am on my 3rd hd2 due to previous BS.
I have not seen any other phone even catch my attention. My HD2 is a beast, but I know the Galaxy SII does have faster download speeds.
So, anyone make the switch?
I made the switch as well. I originally got the HD2 because I was tired of the iPhone 4 not having 3G service on T-Mobile.
It's a night and day difference between the phones in terms of download speed. I got max 4-6mbps down with the HD2, but I get 10-16mbps down with the S II. Also, you'll find the picture quality of both the screen and camera are better on the S II
I made the switch as well. It has been a hard decision but the phone is starting to grow on me. I became very well versed with the HD2 and it's nuances. I started with Cookies Home Tab mods on Winmo 6.5 to learning how to mount and unmount APKs and scripting with 2.3.7. The HD2 was my journey into Android modding. Funny enough, My first smart phone was a G1 but at that time I wasn't into and didn't know what I could do with android. Coming from Symbian, I was like, hey, it just works.
As time passed though, I was promoted to be in the field as an I.T. consultant. The HD2 became more of a functional necessity rather than just a cool phone I could mess with from time to time. With that said, things just had to work... and at times, had to work fast and also multi-task better. The HD2 started to feel its age. I needed a phone that was an all out improvement over the HD2 so I wouldn't look back.
Unlocked boot-loader, larger screen with higher resolution and brightness, faster processor, faster data speeds (and even better signal attenuation), lack of hard buttons (wear and tear), lighter phone (higher chance of surviving a drop) and just all around newer technology. And the best thing for me was MORE AVAILABLE RAM
I was happy I made the choice. With a good ROM with the sgs2, it's simply graceful. With the increased RAM and performance, I can do everything a lot easier. I still have my HD2 in pretty decent condition running ICS but it's just for kicks. The Tmous version of the Galaxy S2 is very young so with that you won't get nearly as much legacy knowledge or development as you do from the HD2 subforums. I'd say give it time but with the available ROMS, they have this phone very solid.
It's an all around better phone in every aspect. Even the audio is better and louder. The ONLY thing I miss is a notification LED but I'm learning to live without. HD2 owners should already know the LED notification issues we've had with previous ROMS as it is.
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A few things you'd have to get use to in the change. The phone (without a cover) will fit anything that you used to hold your HD2 in granted the HD2 had a cover. BUT if you decide to get a back over for the phone, you'll need something else to hold it in because it's larger as it wider and longer. The audio plug port is now on top instead of the bottom so if you had a car setup, you might have to move things around a little. The charger is a micro-usb port and it's almost in the same location as the HD2. The power button is on the top right side of the phone so that will take a little getting used to. It does have a 2MP front facing camera so that's another bonus. Without a cover the phone is still easy to hold and doesn't feel like it might slide out of your hand. It's quite light for it's size and thin. The buttons on the phone are capacitive with the exception of the volume rocker (on the upper left of the phone) and the power button. The speaker is on the bottom left of the rear of the phone but it's quite loud. 1 LED flash as opposed to 2 with the HD2 but still seems to put out the same amount of lumens. The camera is more recessed than the HD2 and is flush with the phone body so no more scratched camera frame. The SD card IS hot swappable so no need to remove the battery. The plastic back cover is very thin so take care in taking it off and on (no brushed aluminum like the HD2). It's a lot but that's pretty much all I can think of for now. Hope this helps.
Great info. . . Same with me, the HD2 is the first true Android phone I started Modding(I still have my g1. But face it, there was no competition for the iPhone for along time). Before, I was a total iPhone man. I turned my iPhone into what it should have been as I did with my HD2.
My HD2 is a extremely solid performer. It is running at about 98% functionality, LED works just fine as does everything else unlike most earlier android flashed HD2's.
Sounds like I will be making the switch as soon as I come across a worthy deal.
Just tough for me to move from a device that treated me so well.
I had an hd2 before this, and still use the hd2 for experimentation and goofing around. (Playing with ICS on it right now.) I loved the hd2, there wasn't a single phone you could do more with.
This phone, however, is amazing. I love this thing. Just don't expect so many roms to choose from. You'll love the upgrade, it's definitely the smoothest phone I've used to date.
I had it pretty cool not all that
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Now to find one for a good deal. I'm also thinking the white one is the way to go.
Development here compared to the hd2 is night and day if u messed with the hd2 a lot as I did u probably will find ur self bored here just a heads up.... hd2 and vibrant days I could flash rom's daily here I've been on the same one for over a month. The Roms are quality tho just not that many.
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I recently dropped my HD2 & spiderwebbed the screen. Oddly enough, it still actually functions perfectly, but it's hard to view the screen and it has sharp edges on the screen itself. I'll be keeping it as a backup MP3 player/portable HD, camera, etc.
Since there is no real equivalent on TMobile, I went with the T989. Performance and capabilities are big improvements, 1080P video, dual core, 4G, etc. Hardware is really far beyond the HD2, but it's been a bit frustrating learning Android, and trying to replicate how perfectly customized for my wants/needs I had my HD2. I'm getting there, though, and I'm getting more and more confident I'll get this new phone dialed in as well or better than the HD2.
I switched from hd2 to the sensation and that didn't last long. Now I'm with this beauty.
Hd2 is still a beast though and now my son uses it.
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I switched from hd2 to the sensation and that didn't last long. Now I'm with this beauty.
Hd2 is still a beast though and now my son uses it.
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same exact here also , i just miss the development with both those phones,hd2 was my favorite of all time ,could just do so much with that bad boy ,galaxy s2 is amazing its just ashame we have to sit here and read 15 year old kids cursing each other out all day every day
As far as customization goes. I work until it's damn near perfect.
I run SPB with a Nexus ROM on my HD2. I swapped out the MMS APK and a few others. It runs a bit overclocked just fine too. Kinda funny though, if I juice it to the Max. I keep up with a Sprint Evo just fine
Also does the current widget work on the GS2? Since it never worked on the turd pile Vibrant I tried to replace my HD2 with?
No current widget doesn't work. Not on any samsung phones that I'm aware of.
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No current widget doesn't work. Not on any samsung phones that I'm aware of.
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Damn, I love that damn thing. LoL
I had an HD2 all rooted and moded and then the SG2 came out and I sold it. It was an awsome phone and I loved it even more when I had android on it. Windows blows on that phone lol.
I had pretty bad experiance with hd2 . Then i move to blackberry 9780 and now on this one.
Problem on hd2 was hardware issue so nothing to do with OS. I simply hate htc hardware.
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I had the euro version for 6mo the tmo since June '10.
Absolutely adored the device. Countless hours of winnow, then android flashing entertainment.
I bought the sg2 just to mess, expecting to return it, but the speed, elegance, enhancemence and speed won me over.
Sold my hd2 for just about what I paid.
I believe I'll be quite happy.
+1 It's quite shameful actually.
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same exact here also , i just miss the development with both those phones,hd2 was my favorite of all time ,could just do so much with that bad boy ,galaxy s2 is amazing its just ashame we have to sit here and read 15 year old kids cursing each other out all day every day
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Just be patient. Remember how long it took to get an sd build of android to boot on it? Or the fact that it took cotulla and the guys over a year to get magldr so we could boot them off nand? Plus the advantage there was now the hd2 has 100% aosp base, so it's very easy to work with, hence all the roms. Plus, they can port from either the htc desire or the nexus one with very few changes, because the hardware is almost identical. The only phone with very very similar hardware for us is the skyrocket. Once we get cm, (and we will), we'll have an aosp base to work off of.
Ignore the kids, be patient, wait a few weeks, and we'll see what rolls in. This phone has barely been out 2 months... 2 months after the hd2 was released I hspl was barely started, let alone working.
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same exact here also , i just miss the development with both those phones,hd2 was my favorite of all time ,could just do so much with that bad boy ,galaxy s2 is amazing its just ashame we have to sit here and read 15 year old kids cursing each other out all day every day
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I physically clapped when I read this. I've been on a lot of sub-forums here at XDA but I've never seen the behavior that I see here. People here are overly sensitive, impatient, belligerent and down right rude and immature. I always had a great amount of respect for the members and developers so I'm a little taken back with the behavior here. I guess any HD2 to prospect SGS2 buyers should take note to that.

[Q] Which highly touted feature(s) of your G'Nex, and ICS, were a bit of a letdown?

Now that you have your G'Nex, (and isn't it the ish?!!) Is there any functionality of it, or ICS, that was a bit of a let down?
I've had mine a little over a week and I'd have to say, that for me it's the camera. Panorama is VERY cool, and impresses everyone, and zero shutter lag is great. But I notice that the quality of basic snapshots is lacking. Colors look unnatural, strange tinting, etc. It may all be in the settings, which I have just now started tweaking. Hopefully I can come up with the right combo, because what's the point of all of the rest, if the pictures come out bad?
Other than that's it's been a major lovefest with the new "baby", complete with frequent battery changes, and late night chargings.
McDizzle said:
Now that you have your G'Nex, (and isn't it the ish?!!) Is there any functionality of it, or ICS, that was a bit of a let down?
I've had mine a little over a week and I'd have to say, that for me it's the camera. Panorama is VERY cool, and impresses everyone, and zero shutter lag is great. But I notice that the quality of basic snapshots is lacking. Colors look unnatural, strange tinting, etc. It may all be in the settings, which I have just now started tweaking. Hopefully I can come up with the right combo, because what's the point of all of the rest, if the pictures come out bad?
Other than that's it's been a major lovefest with the new "baby", complete with frequent battery changes, and late night chargings.
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IMO nothing let me down in regards to the specs and quality of this phone/ICS. I came from the SGS so everything with the GNex was a big improvement for me.
Some will probably say that the battery is a letdown, but given the sheer size and resolution of the screen i'd say it is OK.
/PS: I have the GSM version.
I was letdown there wasn't a hidden micro sd slot. That's it.
Sent from my Nexus in Texas.
I would also say the camera, but I will also say the speaker on this phone is a piece of crap!! I can't believe they shipped the phone with such a low ass speaker! Unbelievable!!! But I still like the damn phone
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Letdown:
1. Camera produced out-of-focus quite a lot
2. Speaker is too low
That's all ...
Battery is great, no problem with that (more than 2 days standby with more than 4 hours screen on time).
Gripes
The screen-capture function must have been designed by a complete sadist. For me it works. 1 out of 10 times....
No Scandinavial dictionary. Never thought I'd miss spell-checking, but I do! With a vengance.
Other than that I''m seriously satisfied.
/M
gogol said:
Letdown:
1. Camera produced out-of-focus quite a lot
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This is actually a bug in the Google ROM and is fixed in 4.0.3
None. The speaker is a bit of a let down but that wasn't a highly-touted feature.
I dislike the fact that the camera requires a tap to focus and another to take a picture. Why can't I just tap the shutter button and it focuses for me?
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I dislike the fact that the camera requires a tap to focus and another to take a picture. Why can't I just tap the shutter button and it focuses for me?
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mine works fine, using 4.0.3 AOKP ROM
McHan said:
The screen-capture function must have been designed by a complete sadist. For me it works. 1 out of 10 times....
No Scandinavial dictionary. Never thought I'd miss spell-checking, but I do! With a vengance.
Other than that I''m seriously satisfied.
/M
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Geez you are so right! It soo easy on my iPhone compare to the nexus!
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Whine, whine, whine.
I must be a sadist, because the screencap feature works for me, EVERY TIME.
The only thing I find to be a letdown is the lack of official Google Wallet with the Verizon version. I don't trust putting a hacked app on my phone that pays with credit cards. Other than that this phone rocks!!
In the original reveal for the GNex, the presenters had mentioned a 'manual white balance.' I got really excited for this, thinking we'd be able to set a custom WB or at the very least manually set the color temperature (in K) to whatever we wanted. Turns out they just meant it was the same as the previous iterations of Android, and that we were limited to Daylight/Tungsten/Fluorescent/etc.
A true manual white balance would alleviate a ton of issues that people complain about in regards to color reproduction. Oh well -- maybe one of these days.
The speaker, like many claim, sucks quite some donkey balls.
The option, or rather not to have the option, to slot a micro-SD card, but we knew that when we bought it . Still 16g should be enough for your phone (imo).
A feature of ICS I never use though is faceunlock... highly featured and beloved, but I don't use it.
It's a nice add-on though but I like to have no lock at all, had my company mail on my older SGS1 and always had to unlock through letter/digit combo.. meh so just slide away for me
Overall, this is the best phone for me, still gonna get the SGSIII aswell to play with.
Or maybe 'encourage' my girlfriend to get it when her contract has to be renewed so I can claim it
the overall smoothness was a huge let-down for me, initially, as most of my previous droids were smoother and faster in comparison. 4.0.3 took care of that once and for all though. Everything's close to perfect now.
This is pretty much the best smartphone on the market right now.
Sometimes I'm amazed by the reading comprehension (or lack thereof). He asked what advertised features of the phone ended up being a let down.
-Couple of things here...nobody ever said the phone would have a SD slot.
-Yes they advertised NFC but don't recall them claiming Wallet would be installed, the highly touted NFC stuff was Android Beam.
-The speaker also was not any kind of advertised feature...we all know its a gamble on any phone.
Anyways..while the face unlock feature works its hardly secure as has been demonstrated, I'd complain a little about the camera but I don't believe phones should be expected to take good pictures that's what DSLRs are for.
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In the original reveal for the GNex, the presenters had mentioned a 'manual white balance.' I got really excited for this, thinking we'd be able to set a custom WB or at the very least manually set the color temperature (in K) to whatever we wanted. Turns out they just meant it was the same as the previous iterations of Android, and that we were limited to Daylight/Tungsten/Fluorescent/etc.
A true manual white balance would alleviate a ton of issues that people complain about in regards to color reproduction. Oh well -- maybe one of these days.
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couple of things here. if the picture i want to take is that important that i need to worry about wb i will use my 5d and shoot in raw. also a lot of people seem to be having issues just taking a picture with the gn if you think these same people are going to be able to figure out setting a manual wb thats a hella stretch.
Really I think it's a matter of the nexus not living up to the hype. For months people have been hyping up this phone. My last phone was a Evo 3d, going to the nexus was really a blah kinda upgrade. ICS is really nice and having it be fully functioning is a very good selling point, but on the 3D they pretty much had everything except the camera and wimax. I would say it ran almost as smooth as my nexus. Don't get me wrong the nexus is a great phone and would recommend it to others. It's just not a huge upgrade from a modern dual core phone.
Also the speaker is kickass compared to the Evo 3d's! And this phone should of been named the Nexus Prime!
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Whine, whine, whine.
I must be a sadist, because the screencap feature works for me, EVERY TIME.
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Really??? With on/off button and then vol-down? 45% of the time I get the Phone Options menu, 45% the phone goes to silent. I'm not being facetious, I REALLY want this to work. As Big Samm says; on the iPhone it's dead easy and works 100%. On MY Nexus; hardly ever.....
Any ideas what can be wrong on our phones?

Upgrade Suggestions

Although my nexus is only about 2 years old, in this day and age, it feels like it's getting outdated and old. I'm starting to get an itch to upgrade my GNex phone and wouldn't mind a few suggestions. My GNex is the first smartphone that I really started to use it as a information consumption device to browse the web, read articles and play games on. As such I've found I do spend a lot of time on it. The things that bother me most are as follows:
1. Poor battery life - even with the 2000mah samsung battery, this hardly gets me through a day without plugging it in somewhere (I don't like carrying extra batteries or a portable battery)
2. Speakers - hardly audible loudspeaker to watch any videos or youtube
3. Screen brightness - I'd say this is acceptable but not as good as it could be
4. Touchscreen responsiveness - not really jittery or lag as that was fixed with jelly bean, but the touchscreen does lag compared to an iphone. I'm not sure if that's just and android or a hardware issue
Things I do like about my Nexus
1. Stock android - for quick updates and no bloatware
2. Formfactor - I think the size is about right, I can do with a bit larger screen like the S4 but not as big as a samsung galaxy note. I want to still be able to put the phone in my back pocket.
Things that I don't really care for
1. Removable battery - I don't see myself ever taking another battery with me
2. Removable microSD card - My 16gb is fine, I never store large videos or files in my phone
3. Camera - Decent pictures are fine, I don't use the camera for anything other than posting or record photos...
4. Super high end build quality - Metal back, glass, anodized aluminum... it's nice but not necessary and doesn't really sway in my decisions
So for those of you who have used other phones, are you able to give some advice in comparison relative to the GNex. I was thinking of the samsung galaxy s4, but wasn't so sure how the battery life compares given it has a faster processor and bigger screen as well as how different the touchwiz is. The LG G2 looks promising too with the 3000mah battery, but I'm hearing mixed reviews with the software and weird button layout.
Any other suggestions on phones... I haven't looked at any of the sony line up or the HTC. If anyone has any first hand experience it would be great, especially from a GNex user.
I would hold out for the N5. I'm unfortunately on Verizon, and as of 2 weeks ago, not a single phone looks appealing to me. I wish my contract was up soon so I could get an N4 on T-MO for the time being. The HTC One is a very good phone also from what I've seen.
I might get chewed up with this comment but....
I too have been itching for an upgrade and I share similar grievances , however I've more or less made up my mind.
Likely candidate: iPhone 5S
I'm ready to jump onto the bandwagon. I've had android phones for as long as I can remember so it's definitely not bias. My reasons for choosing an iPhone over another android device are simple. I absolutely hate the build quality on most of the newer flagship android headsets...traditional plastic. Ever since the iPhone 4, apple has been paying a little more attention to build quality. Since I'm paying ~$700 on a headset anyways, I'll go for an arguably better build quality.
I don't care much for the fingerprint sensor but the new camera features are pretty nice such as 120fps @ 720p stopped down to 24 in post makes for a nice slow motion effect. I used to own a Canon 5D Mark III but had to depart from it for financial reasons and I really enjoyed photography while I owned it. I'd love to pursue that hobby again with the iPhones larger aperture and stabilization. Granted the image quality will be much more inferior to a professional DSLR, I'm sure I can get a good kick out of the improved camera.
Then, I own an iPad and I gotta say I fell in love with iOS 7's new UI design. Many critics call it confusing and childish but I think it's a right step away from leather and brushed steel textures as well as bubbly icons. As I've owned android headsets for a long time, iOS just seems like a welcomed change.
Lastly, I built my own Hackintosh last year after selling my MBP in pursuit of more processing power without the sacrifice of a limb for an apple workstation. As I run OSX on this PC, and having an iPad, my phone stands out as the odd one out. I'd like to reduce fragmentation amongst my devices.
I could care less for a 5" screen that android devices are pumping out, I don't care for the future hexa and octa core phones, and in all honestly...I'm done dealing with roots, custom ROMs and radios. No body forced me to do it sure, that's a valid point but being a college student, flashing is an addiction I can no longer fulfill. I just need something that works.
If you want to be shackled to the itunes then go for an iPhone 5S otherwise get the cheapest, value for money device the N5, which has an equivalent performance of the A7 plus the Nexus gives you a straight 2 updates insurance/ or whatever you may call, with the best dev community !
I'd be getting myself an N5, skipped the N4 for it !
iPhone 5s or N5, all the rest are inferior now, the N5 will have similar benchmarks to iPhone 5s , quad core, octocore means nothing if its not optimized an android chews the CPU an ram way more than iOS that's why apple doesn't need it, like you said roms an all that are pointless unless you have older device that Google has dropped from official updates, nothing beats latest official stock updates.
I still choose the N5 over the iPhone 5s though with its 13mp camera ect.
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If you want to be shackled to the itunes then go for an iPhone 5S otherwise get the cheapest, value for money device the N5, which has an equivalent performance of the A7 plus the Nexus gives you a straight 2 updates insurance/ or whatever you may call, with the best dev community !
I'd be getting myself an N5, skipped the N4 for it !
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Being "shackled" to iTunes is not exactly a life sentence. I don't see many drawbacks/differences than with android. Then, perhaps because I've been spoiled by the Nexus, but the 2 "guaranteed" updates me a nothing to me now...I don't get on-board with the hype trains that haunt said updates.
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fux0r99 said:
iPhone 5s or N5, all the rest are inferior now, the N5 will have similar benchmarks to iPhone 5s , quad core, octocore means nothing if its not optimized an android chews the CPU an ram way more than iOS that's why apple doesn't need it, like you said roms an all that are pointless unless you have older device that Google has dropped from official updates, nothing beats latest official stock updates.
I still choose the N5 over the iPhone 5s though with its 13mp camera ect.
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Agreed with pretty much everything except the camera. Having more megapixels can be nice for cropping but the quality does not increase. Chances are you won't be sharing 13MP photos either. What matters most is the the sensor size, and at this time and age pretty much all mobile sensors are identical specially in low light sensitivity. Aperture is another important aspect when it comes to photography, and there really isn't much you can do with a mobile lens to actually call it a "revolutionary" improvement.
I'm waiting for the N5. It shouldn't be much longer. 2 months MAX.
I'd love to get the Note 3 but the N5 price will be hard to beat since I am on a prepaid plan.
N5 Man
I have to agree with most people so far and say to wait until the N5 will be released. There will be a ton of original dev on that device for sure.
Go with your heart.
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If I were on Verizon right now I would go with the LG G2 or the Droid Maxx. But I would wait for the Nexus 5 and see what that brings.

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