guys, is there any point turning off WiFi when not in use, or does it do the decent thing and stop using power when not actively in use?
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I'd imagine it still scans for networks so it will still use battery - I just have the toggle on one of my home screens and turn it on when needed
landwomble said:
guys, is there any point turning off WiFi when not in use, or does it do the decent thing and stop using power when not actively in use?
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from Market, get WiFi Status from Andrew Schwimmer, one of the very best android app developers. It doesn't do exactly what you want but it's the smartest detection app out there for letting you know when there is no wifi signal to connect to, thus prompting you to toggle off wifi. It displays in the Notification Bar.
As for turning off wifi, I tried about 10 home screen widgets; they are all the same more or less. To me the far greater tool is Quick Settings, which gives you one-click access from anywhere via the Notification Bar, vs having to navigate to home screen and find the widget. But in addition it has toggles for sound, brightness, data, gps, bluetooth, etc -- all in on fast app.
I think it blows all these single-function widgets away as dumb.
So if my phone is on, screen off, in my pocket, it'll be constantly looking for wifi? If this is the case it's, well, dumb. Ta for tip about quick settings, just installed it and it's very nice.
landwomble said:
So if my phone is on, screen off, in my pocket, it'll be constantly looking for wifi? If this is the case it's, well, dumb. Ta for tip about quick settings, just installed it and it's very nice.
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then try wifinder -- i mused ti use that, but with quick setings i dont bothher any more
Add the widget 'Power Control' for one-touch bluetooth/wifi/gps/sync/brightness control....
landwomble said:
So if my phone is on, screen off, in my pocket, it'll be constantly looking for wifi? If this is the case it's, well, dumb. Ta for tip about quick settings, just installed it and it's very nice.
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Not sure it would be scanning for wifi when the screen is off. That would be daft. Ntework coverage yes, but wouldnt think wifi until you turn on the screen. Anyone confirm?
no, it stays on when the screen is off.
Seems so many people complained about it turning off in standby that google went ahead and changed it.
now it defaults to staying on forever until manually turned off.
Go to Settings> Wireless & Networks > Wi-Fi Settings > [Menu] > Advanced > Wi-Fi sleep policy. I set mine to 'after 15 mins'... if I understood this setting correctly then after 15 minutes of the phone being in Sleep mode it'd turn off the Wi-Fi. I don't use mobile data anyway so that's irrelevant. Wi-Fi will turn on again once I activate the screen.
blimey, that's well hidden.
what a stupid arrangement. WiFi should be on demand, and enabled only when data requests it, like the iPhone.
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I use "Y5 - Battery Saver" for my wireless shenanigans
I am using 'Y5 battery save'r. It turns on wifi if you are on a location where you had a wifi connection and turns it off if you go elsewhere. You can manage the locations in the program. It can use the GPS or radio for the locations. You will find it in the market place.
Hey there,
I'm using S-off and oxygen 2.2 on my rooted desire and I have a big problem:
Always when I press the power button so that the screen goes off and than turn it on again by pressing it again after some time (20 secs or so) I see that wlan is turned off and the cellular data connection is used. Shortly after the screen went on, WLAN is on again. Is this some default behaviour to save battery? Is wlan really more battery comsuming than the providers data connection?
The problem which arises now is: I'm using http://www.appbrain.com/app/unlock-at-home-using-wifi/com.accedo.unlockathome which unlocks in a certain wifi and locks, when going out of whitelisted wifi networks. When I press power to turn off the screen and the wlan is disconnected after some short time, the screen gets locked and somehow I think that the screen gets on shortly after this. This causes the wifi to connect again and than after turning off again the wifi gets disconnected again. Thus after the lock applications locks the screen and thus shows it again... -> infinite loop. every now and than (i think about once a minute) I see the screen go on and quickly after it off again.
how to fix that?
Do you have something like Juice Defender installed?
Check the sleep policy.
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Set wifi sleep policy to never, under wifi advanced settings.
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xybadog said:
Do you have something like Juice Defender installed?
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Nope i havent!
@k3lcior: strangely it's already set to never and though I often see the cellular data icon appear also when I use the phone (e.g. when writing an sms) and directly disappear again there's to be a problem I think with something on my phone!?
Is it possible to lock the screen but keep it on? This is because the WiFi always loses connection when the screen is off. I have tried every app there is to keep the WiFi fully awake when the screen is off but none of them work.
vpwrf said:
Is it possible to lock the screen but keep it on? This is because the WiFi always loses connection when the screen is off. I have tried every app there is to keep the WiFi fully awake when the screen is off but none of them work.
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Settings > Wifi > Menu > Advanced > Wifi policy, You've tried that?
Yes. I have tried that.
Did u tried "no lock" apps from market, try that
"No lock" apps are not what I am looking for. I need it locked so I don't keep knocking things and the screen kept on or to find a way to disable the stupid WiFi sleep thing so it runs at full power even when the screen off. Is there a way to do this?
I have searched and found something that could disable the WiFi power saver at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16519177#post16519177 . Can someone check this and get it working on the HTC Wildfire S kernel version 2.6.35.10-ga66971c and 2.3.5 stock ROM?
i have 2 gnex phones that both just updated to 4.2, and prior to the update, when i turned on airplane mode, cell data would turn off but wifi would be left on.
after the 4.2 update, one phone continues to work that way, with airplane mode on, cell data is turned off but wifi is left on. the other phone, enabling airplane mode turns off both wifi and cell data.
i know that apps are not able to toggle airplane mode anymore (AutoAP) because of security changes but why would airplane mode work differently on 2 phones running the same 4.2 build?
both phones are running stock android, no root, no flashing.
is there a setting i'm missing? was this something in the update that other people are experiencing?
thanks for the help!
Can't you just toggle wifi back on after?
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Can't you just toggle wifi back on after?
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yes, but it immediately shuts wifi back off.
with airplane mode on, i can go to the wifi settings screen, and hit the toggle, it turns on, scans, finds the local wifi, connects and at the same moment it connects the wifi on/off toggle flips back to off.
just seems weird that it is happening with this phone but mine is working as expected...
Then you must go back to 4.1.2 with 4.2 gapps.
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danishprakash said:
Then you must go back to 4.1.2 with 4.2 gapps.
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any idea why it would work with one 4.2 phone and not the other?
seems odd i'd have to backport one phone but leave the other at 4.2
This happens on my Nexus 4. Airplane mode constantly disables WiFi, no matter what. And yes the app AutoAP doesn't work either.
I have found this app, Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool, funny that it was made for Android versions prior to 2.0.
The actual app doesn't seem to work (to enable/disable airplane mode and WiFi), but within the app lies a nifty feature in the Preferences menu under Extras:
Keep Wi-fi On
Wi-fi on Airplane Mode
Check both of those and you should be able to turn Airplane mode on and then keep WiFi on.
Cheers.
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This happens on my Nexus 4. Airplane mode constantly disables WiFi, no matter what. And yes the app AutoAP doesn't work either.
I have found this app, Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool, funny that it was made for Android versions prior to 2.0.
The actual app doesn't seem to work (to enable/disable airplane mode and WiFi), but within the app lies a nifty feature in the Preferences menu under Extras:
Keep Wi-fi On
Wi-fi on Airplane Mode
Check both of those and you should be able to turn Airplane mode on and then keep WiFi on.
Cheers.
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thanks i'll try that out. that app is actually dev'd by the same guy as AutoAP.
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thanks i'll try that out. that app is actually dev'd by the same guy as AutoAP.
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that didn't work
i could check "keep wifi on" but whenever i went back to that settings page, it was unchecked again. like it was refusing to save.
the rest of the settings saved.
wrong thread
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i have 2 gnex phones that both just updated to 4.2, and prior to the update, when i turned on airplane mode, cell data would turn off but wifi would be left on
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im on ARHD 7.0.0 and even in prior versions, when airplane mode was turned on wifi would turn off but it could be turned back on. how come your wifi stays on during the airplane mod transition?
Isn't airplane mode means disable any active radio transmission includes Wi-Fi which is sent and receive data ?
If you just wanna stay off calls why don't you just use automatic redirect incoming calls to voice mail or just simply pull out the sim card?
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Airplane mode is supposed to turn wifi off (its a transceiver). However, You can turn it back on while airplane mode is activated and still have the other functions off.
That how airplane mode is supposed to work, thats not a bug, every phone ive had does this
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rptw said:
im on ARHD 7.0.0 and even in prior versions, when airplane mode was turned on wifi would turn off but it could be turned back on. how come your wifi stays on during the airplane mod transition?
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i don't know why, but wifi always has always stayed on when switching to AP mode since i got our Gnex phones in sept. (4.1 i think). wifi even stayed enable when switching to AP mode in my old crappy kin two.
and i think it must be fairly common based upon the instructions in the $30 cell service thread, but i'm no android expert so maybe i'm wrong.
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i have 2 gnex phones that both just updated to 4.2, and prior to the update, when i turned on airplane mode, cell data would turn off but wifi would be left on.
after the 4.2 update, one phone continues to work that way, with airplane mode on, cell data is turned off but wifi is left on. the other phone, enabling airplane mode turns off both wifi and cell data.
i know that apps are not able to toggle airplane mode anymore (AutoAP) because of security changes but why would airplane mode work differently on 2 phones running the same 4.2 build?
both phones are running stock android, no root, no flashing.
is there a setting i'm missing? was this something in the update that other people are experiencing?
thanks for the help!
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There's a lot of talk about this. Check the [GUIDE] to voip/$30/month plans. But it sounds like google moved it into part of core services or something like that. So none of the autoap type programs work any more. But one member had this suggestion below in that other thread. Gotta buy Tasker, but should be able to get back to working like AutoAP did.
Download Secure Settings. Launch Secure Settings, go over to the Helper tab and install the helper. Then go to Tasker. Go into your task and delete the Airplane Mode radio step and the Airplane mode on step. Then hit the + at the bottom left, go to Plugins, select Secure Settings. Hit edit. Scroll down to "Airplane Mode Radios" and select it, and then select "Cell" from the dropdown. Hit the save button at the bottom left and select the check mark to create the task. Move the task where it needs to be by dragging on the right side up and down. Then create a new task, Plugins, Secure Settings, edit, Airplane mode, on, save button, check mark, move to position. You can figure out the rest. Works perfectly.
Llama works as well, it's free and looks less complicated
jpmanchester said:
There's a lot of talk about this. Check the [GUIDE] to voip/$30/month plans. But it sounds like google moved it into part of core services or something like that. So none of the autoap type programs work any more. But one member had this suggestion below in that other thread. Gotta buy Tasker, but should be able to get back to working like AutoAP did.
Download Secure Settings. Launch Secure Settings, go over to the Helper tab and install the helper. Then go to Tasker. Go into your task and delete the Airplane Mode radio step and the Airplane mode on step. Then hit the + at the bottom left, go to Plugins, select Secure Settings. Hit edit. Scroll down to "Airplane Mode Radios" and select it, and then select "Cell" from the dropdown. Hit the save button at the bottom left and select the check mark to create the task. Move the task where it needs to be by dragging on the right side up and down. Then create a new task, Plugins, Secure Settings, edit, Airplane mode, on, save button, check mark, move to position. You can figure out the rest. Works perfectly.
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Many thanks. Got this working after playing with Secure Settings and Tasker, works great...:good:
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keep wifi on in airplane mode
I guess I have figured out how to do it with Tasker or Secure Settings.
Both have two actions like "Airplane Mode" and "Airplane Radios", so the second one doesn't turn off anything, but set, what to control with "Airplane Mode" action. Setting seems to be system wide and permanent (saved after reboot).
Good luck