guys, is there any point turning off WiFi when not in use, or does it do the decent thing and stop using power when not actively in use?
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I'd imagine it still scans for networks so it will still use battery - I just have the toggle on one of my home screens and turn it on when needed
landwomble said:
guys, is there any point turning off WiFi when not in use, or does it do the decent thing and stop using power when not actively in use?
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from Market, get WiFi Status from Andrew Schwimmer, one of the very best android app developers. It doesn't do exactly what you want but it's the smartest detection app out there for letting you know when there is no wifi signal to connect to, thus prompting you to toggle off wifi. It displays in the Notification Bar.
As for turning off wifi, I tried about 10 home screen widgets; they are all the same more or less. To me the far greater tool is Quick Settings, which gives you one-click access from anywhere via the Notification Bar, vs having to navigate to home screen and find the widget. But in addition it has toggles for sound, brightness, data, gps, bluetooth, etc -- all in on fast app.
I think it blows all these single-function widgets away as dumb.
So if my phone is on, screen off, in my pocket, it'll be constantly looking for wifi? If this is the case it's, well, dumb. Ta for tip about quick settings, just installed it and it's very nice.
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So if my phone is on, screen off, in my pocket, it'll be constantly looking for wifi? If this is the case it's, well, dumb. Ta for tip about quick settings, just installed it and it's very nice.
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then try wifinder -- i mused ti use that, but with quick setings i dont bothher any more
Add the widget 'Power Control' for one-touch bluetooth/wifi/gps/sync/brightness control....
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So if my phone is on, screen off, in my pocket, it'll be constantly looking for wifi? If this is the case it's, well, dumb. Ta for tip about quick settings, just installed it and it's very nice.
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Not sure it would be scanning for wifi when the screen is off. That would be daft. Ntework coverage yes, but wouldnt think wifi until you turn on the screen. Anyone confirm?
no, it stays on when the screen is off.
Seems so many people complained about it turning off in standby that google went ahead and changed it.
now it defaults to staying on forever until manually turned off.
Go to Settings> Wireless & Networks > Wi-Fi Settings > [Menu] > Advanced > Wi-Fi sleep policy. I set mine to 'after 15 mins'... if I understood this setting correctly then after 15 minutes of the phone being in Sleep mode it'd turn off the Wi-Fi. I don't use mobile data anyway so that's irrelevant. Wi-Fi will turn on again once I activate the screen.
blimey, that's well hidden.
what a stupid arrangement. WiFi should be on demand, and enabled only when data requests it, like the iPhone.
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I use "Y5 - Battery Saver" for my wireless shenanigans
I am using 'Y5 battery save'r. It turns on wifi if you are on a location where you had a wifi connection and turns it off if you go elsewhere. You can manage the locations in the program. It can use the GPS or radio for the locations. You will find it in the market place.
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Hey,
I am going to the Israel for vacation, and I have IGo and maps downloaded to my phone. However, I tried using GPS in Airplane mode (to see if it works, because I expect to turn my phone onto airplane mode while in Israel), it turns on, but it does not detect any satellites (I used the "GPS Test" app to test it). So, I 'Googled' around for some options, and found that it will not connect to satellites while in "Airplane Mode".
What I would like to do is to try and shut off the cellular Radio (while keeping the 'Airplane Mode' turned off) and try connecting to GPS then, to see if it works. I need a way to turn off the Cellular radio without turning on 'Airplane Mode', or, if you have any other ideas, please do tell, I am looking for anyway to use my GPS without it costing me any money (by using data, or cellular service in Israel).
Thank you very much.
slimsheivy said:
Hey,
I am going to the Israel for vacation, and I have IGo and maps downloaded to my phone. However, I tried using GPS in Airplane mode (to see if it works, because I expect to turn my phone onto airplane mode while in Israel), it turns on, but it does not detect any satellites (I used the "GPS Test" app to test it). So, I 'Googled' around for some options, and found that it will not connect to satellites while in "Airplane Mode".
What I would like to do is to try and shut off the cellular Radio (while keeping the 'Airplane Mode' turned off) and try connecting to GPS then, to see if it works. I need a way to turn off the Cellular radio without turning on 'Airplane Mode', or, if you have any other ideas, please do tell, I am looking for anyway to use my GPS without it costing me any money (by using data, or cellular service in Israel).
Thank you very much.
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Isn't there a setting in wireless and networks that lets you turn that off? Or maybe you can try juice defender. That has a ton of options and many have to do with turning off wireless.
When you hold down the power button like you are shutting off the phone there is an option Data Network Mode... click it and turn it off and it will shut off your data. i do it a lot to save battery
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When you hold down the power button like you are shutting off the phone there is an option Data Network Mode... click it and turn it off and it will shut off your data. i do it a lot to save battery
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Now how about an option to turn off cell signal without turning off data?
Not sure there is an option, at least within the phone's menu, I'm sure there is an app of some sort to offer this feature.
I've tried using Extended Controls to toggle the cellular radio at no avail. It seems like airplane mode kills all onboard radios, and I'm starting to think it's not possble to what you're looking in EC05.
Shoulon said:
Now how about an option to turn off cell signal without turning off data?
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how do you suppose using data without a cell signal???
And, Does anyone know how much data is used to get the general location used to start GPS? if it doesn't use data then what does it use to get the general location? (i know it uses the towers, but how does it transmit the location to your phone?)
You can do this with Tasker.
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Hey,
I went on my trip and used GPS without getting charged, here is what I did:
being that GPS wont work with 'Airplane mode' turned On, I had to keep it 'Off', so in order not to get charged; I turned off Data connection (by holding down on the power button and choosing the option from the list) to make sure the didn't charge me for Data. I was not worried about incoming calls because you are only charged if you answer. the only issue was that they charge $0.05 for each incoming text, so before I went on the trip I called Sprint and told them to disable text for the duration of my trip.
it was a great success, GPS worked great and i wasn't charged a penny.
Thanks for the update, I was curious if our phone could be used that way.
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You can disable just the cellular radio using Tasker... this will still allow you to use wifi, bluetooth, gps, etc...
Hey there,
I'm using S-off and oxygen 2.2 on my rooted desire and I have a big problem:
Always when I press the power button so that the screen goes off and than turn it on again by pressing it again after some time (20 secs or so) I see that wlan is turned off and the cellular data connection is used. Shortly after the screen went on, WLAN is on again. Is this some default behaviour to save battery? Is wlan really more battery comsuming than the providers data connection?
The problem which arises now is: I'm using http://www.appbrain.com/app/unlock-at-home-using-wifi/com.accedo.unlockathome which unlocks in a certain wifi and locks, when going out of whitelisted wifi networks. When I press power to turn off the screen and the wlan is disconnected after some short time, the screen gets locked and somehow I think that the screen gets on shortly after this. This causes the wifi to connect again and than after turning off again the wifi gets disconnected again. Thus after the lock applications locks the screen and thus shows it again... -> infinite loop. every now and than (i think about once a minute) I see the screen go on and quickly after it off again.
how to fix that?
Do you have something like Juice Defender installed?
Check the sleep policy.
Swyped from Oxygen with Transparent XDA App
Set wifi sleep policy to never, under wifi advanced settings.
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xybadog said:
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Nope i havent!
@k3lcior: strangely it's already set to never and though I often see the cellular data icon appear also when I use the phone (e.g. when writing an sms) and directly disappear again there's to be a problem I think with something on my phone!?
Hello all. I just decided to retire my Vibrant yesterday and got an S3. I haven't changed much on it. I'll run it stock for quite a while. I am using a custom launcher, etc.
My battery life is horrible though! It's not even noon and I'm already down to 35%. I've made sure S Voice is not set to wake up when I talk to it. My weather was set to update every 15 minutes by default, but I've changed it to every hour. I charged it in the van on the way to take kiddos to school, and it was at 80ish percent. So that's quite a drop in not a long time. Granted, it's new, so I'm playing with it.
What tips can you give me to get the best battery life I can out of it? Besides custom ROMs. I'm not even rooted. Yet.
Well how long has your screen been on? That will be the determining factor in your battery life. Like you said, it is new and you are playing with it so I am willing to bet that probably has something to do with it.
Otherwise, turn data off when you aren't using it and keep the screen brightness as low as possible.
Here's what I do with a freshly flashed rom. I pretty much drill down through every setting turning off what I dont need.
WiFi - turn off network notification.
More Settings - Everything off
Sound - turn off everything below "System"
Display - Auto brightness off. Timeout 1min. Smart Stay off. Touch key always on or off. Auto Adj Screen Tone off. Battery% on.
Power Saving - Off.
Accounts and Sync - Off
Location Svcs - Off
Language and Input - Voice Cmd off. Voice Recognizer (all off for google and Samsung). Voice Search all off. TTS driving mode off.
Backup and Reset - can't remember what its listed under but below carrier data press to open and uncheck collect data (this is carrier iq, so I removed it asap once rooted)
Accessory - all off
Developer Options - set animation scales to 0.5x.
Hope that helps. I keep a lot off and only turn stuff on when I need it. There's some pretty cool features but for me it doesn't hurt my experiance with the phone to not use a lot of them.
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joshnichols189 said:
Well how long has your screen been on? That will be the determining factor in your battery life. Like you said, it is new and you are playing with it so I am willing to bet that probably has something to do with it.
Otherwise, turn data off when you aren't using it and keep the screen brightness as low as possible.
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Ah. My screen was set to stay on for 10 minutes. That, I would imagine, was a large part of my problem. At least according to my battery stats. Why do they set that as default??
My screen brightness is now set to low. What is this with the data? Doesn't that mean I would not receive email, google talk messages, etc?
DocHoliday77 said:
Here's what I do with a freshly flashed rom. I pretty much drill down through every setting turning off what I dont need.
WiFi - turn off network notification.
More Settings - Everything off
Sound - turn off everything below "System"
Display - Auto brightness off. Timeout 1min. Smart Stay off. Touch key always on or off. Auto Adj Screen Tone off. Battery% on.
Power Saving - Off.
Accounts and Sync - Off
Location Svcs - Off
Language and Input - Voice Cmd off. Voice Recognizer (all off for google and Samsung). Voice Search all off. TTS driving mode off.
Backup and Reset - can't remember what its listed under but below carrier data press to open and uncheck collect data (this is carrier iq, so I removed it asap once rooted)
Accessory - all off
Developer Options - set animation scales to 0.5x.
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I just did almost all of these. With the WiFi detection off, will I need to manually find my home network each time I get back home?
Also, if I turn Voice Command off, I won't be able to push the button and say "Listen to blah blah blah" or "Navigate to ....." correct?
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Ah. My screen was set to stay on for 10 minutes. That, I would imagine, was a large part of my problem. At least according to my battery stats. Why do they set that as default??
My screen brightness is now set to low. What is this with the data? Doesn't that mean I would not receive email, google talk messages, etc?
I just did almost all of these. With the WiFi detection off, will I need to manually find my home network each time I get back home?
Also, if I turn Voice Command off, I won't be able to push the button and say "Listen to blah blah blah" or "Navigate to ....." correct?
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I am on CM10 so I am not sure where it is for stock Touchwiz, but I would assume you could go to settings > display > screen timeout and change it there.
Yes, turning off data would mean no push email or Google Talk messages. You could download an app that turns off your data when you turn the screen off, then on when you turn the screen on and your emails and messages would come through then.
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I am on CM10 so I am not sure where it is for stock Touchwiz, but I would assume you could go to settings > display > screen timeout and change it there.
Yes, turning off data would mean no push email or Google Talk messages. You could download an app that turns off your data when you turn the screen off, then on when you turn the screen on and your emails and messages would come through then.
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Aah. Okay. Thank you! Yes, I fixed the screen timeout.
The_MamaBee said:
I just did almost all of these. With the WiFi detection off, will I need to manually find my home network each time I get back home?
Also, if I turn Voice Command off, I won't be able to push the button and say "Listen to blah blah blah" or "Navigate to ....." correct?
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I should have also mentioned I turn off wifi and data when I don't need it to, which is rare but it happens at times!
By turning off the wifi notification, the only change is it won't give you a notification in status bar that there's an open network nearby that you could connect to. Itll still auto connect to any network you've already got configured.
For voice cmd, it won't let svoice open apps for you. But for example in navigation you can still hit the mic button on keyboard and speak your destination.
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Can you upload a Screenshot of your battery screen... It will make it a lot easier to look at
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On the Wifi issue. What I do with regards to wifi, is if I know that I am not going to be near an open connection, I turn it off. When I am at work, there is no wifi nearby that I can connect to. So I use Mobile Data instead. Why you ask? It is because when you have your wifi on, in the back ground it is always scanning for a signal. Turn that off and no scan, then no drain for something that you are not using at moment.
I know that this is a bit deeper than you wanted to go, but in the Build.Prop you can put a setting [wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=] and you can set that out. The time in there is the time duration on scanning intervals based on seconds. So the setting wifi.supplicant_scan_interval=180 means that it scans for wifi and doesn't find one, then counts off 180seconds and scans again.<--This is what I have mine set too, btw.
Disable the wifi when your not using it.
i have 2 gnex phones that both just updated to 4.2, and prior to the update, when i turned on airplane mode, cell data would turn off but wifi would be left on.
after the 4.2 update, one phone continues to work that way, with airplane mode on, cell data is turned off but wifi is left on. the other phone, enabling airplane mode turns off both wifi and cell data.
i know that apps are not able to toggle airplane mode anymore (AutoAP) because of security changes but why would airplane mode work differently on 2 phones running the same 4.2 build?
both phones are running stock android, no root, no flashing.
is there a setting i'm missing? was this something in the update that other people are experiencing?
thanks for the help!
Can't you just toggle wifi back on after?
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Can't you just toggle wifi back on after?
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yes, but it immediately shuts wifi back off.
with airplane mode on, i can go to the wifi settings screen, and hit the toggle, it turns on, scans, finds the local wifi, connects and at the same moment it connects the wifi on/off toggle flips back to off.
just seems weird that it is happening with this phone but mine is working as expected...
Then you must go back to 4.1.2 with 4.2 gapps.
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Then you must go back to 4.1.2 with 4.2 gapps.
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any idea why it would work with one 4.2 phone and not the other?
seems odd i'd have to backport one phone but leave the other at 4.2
This happens on my Nexus 4. Airplane mode constantly disables WiFi, no matter what. And yes the app AutoAP doesn't work either.
I have found this app, Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool, funny that it was made for Android versions prior to 2.0.
The actual app doesn't seem to work (to enable/disable airplane mode and WiFi), but within the app lies a nifty feature in the Preferences menu under Extras:
Keep Wi-fi On
Wi-fi on Airplane Mode
Check both of those and you should be able to turn Airplane mode on and then keep WiFi on.
Cheers.
obscure.detour said:
This happens on my Nexus 4. Airplane mode constantly disables WiFi, no matter what. And yes the app AutoAP doesn't work either.
I have found this app, Airplane Mode Wi-Fi Tool, funny that it was made for Android versions prior to 2.0.
The actual app doesn't seem to work (to enable/disable airplane mode and WiFi), but within the app lies a nifty feature in the Preferences menu under Extras:
Keep Wi-fi On
Wi-fi on Airplane Mode
Check both of those and you should be able to turn Airplane mode on and then keep WiFi on.
Cheers.
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thanks i'll try that out. that app is actually dev'd by the same guy as AutoAP.
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thanks i'll try that out. that app is actually dev'd by the same guy as AutoAP.
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that didn't work
i could check "keep wifi on" but whenever i went back to that settings page, it was unchecked again. like it was refusing to save.
the rest of the settings saved.
wrong thread
chadd_k2 said:
i have 2 gnex phones that both just updated to 4.2, and prior to the update, when i turned on airplane mode, cell data would turn off but wifi would be left on
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im on ARHD 7.0.0 and even in prior versions, when airplane mode was turned on wifi would turn off but it could be turned back on. how come your wifi stays on during the airplane mod transition?
Isn't airplane mode means disable any active radio transmission includes Wi-Fi which is sent and receive data ?
If you just wanna stay off calls why don't you just use automatic redirect incoming calls to voice mail or just simply pull out the sim card?
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Airplane mode is supposed to turn wifi off (its a transceiver). However, You can turn it back on while airplane mode is activated and still have the other functions off.
That how airplane mode is supposed to work, thats not a bug, every phone ive had does this
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im on ARHD 7.0.0 and even in prior versions, when airplane mode was turned on wifi would turn off but it could be turned back on. how come your wifi stays on during the airplane mod transition?
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i don't know why, but wifi always has always stayed on when switching to AP mode since i got our Gnex phones in sept. (4.1 i think). wifi even stayed enable when switching to AP mode in my old crappy kin two.
and i think it must be fairly common based upon the instructions in the $30 cell service thread, but i'm no android expert so maybe i'm wrong.
chadd_k2 said:
i have 2 gnex phones that both just updated to 4.2, and prior to the update, when i turned on airplane mode, cell data would turn off but wifi would be left on.
after the 4.2 update, one phone continues to work that way, with airplane mode on, cell data is turned off but wifi is left on. the other phone, enabling airplane mode turns off both wifi and cell data.
i know that apps are not able to toggle airplane mode anymore (AutoAP) because of security changes but why would airplane mode work differently on 2 phones running the same 4.2 build?
both phones are running stock android, no root, no flashing.
is there a setting i'm missing? was this something in the update that other people are experiencing?
thanks for the help!
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There's a lot of talk about this. Check the [GUIDE] to voip/$30/month plans. But it sounds like google moved it into part of core services or something like that. So none of the autoap type programs work any more. But one member had this suggestion below in that other thread. Gotta buy Tasker, but should be able to get back to working like AutoAP did.
Download Secure Settings. Launch Secure Settings, go over to the Helper tab and install the helper. Then go to Tasker. Go into your task and delete the Airplane Mode radio step and the Airplane mode on step. Then hit the + at the bottom left, go to Plugins, select Secure Settings. Hit edit. Scroll down to "Airplane Mode Radios" and select it, and then select "Cell" from the dropdown. Hit the save button at the bottom left and select the check mark to create the task. Move the task where it needs to be by dragging on the right side up and down. Then create a new task, Plugins, Secure Settings, edit, Airplane mode, on, save button, check mark, move to position. You can figure out the rest. Works perfectly.
Llama works as well, it's free and looks less complicated
jpmanchester said:
There's a lot of talk about this. Check the [GUIDE] to voip/$30/month plans. But it sounds like google moved it into part of core services or something like that. So none of the autoap type programs work any more. But one member had this suggestion below in that other thread. Gotta buy Tasker, but should be able to get back to working like AutoAP did.
Download Secure Settings. Launch Secure Settings, go over to the Helper tab and install the helper. Then go to Tasker. Go into your task and delete the Airplane Mode radio step and the Airplane mode on step. Then hit the + at the bottom left, go to Plugins, select Secure Settings. Hit edit. Scroll down to "Airplane Mode Radios" and select it, and then select "Cell" from the dropdown. Hit the save button at the bottom left and select the check mark to create the task. Move the task where it needs to be by dragging on the right side up and down. Then create a new task, Plugins, Secure Settings, edit, Airplane mode, on, save button, check mark, move to position. You can figure out the rest. Works perfectly.
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Many thanks. Got this working after playing with Secure Settings and Tasker, works great...:good:
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I guess I have figured out how to do it with Tasker or Secure Settings.
Both have two actions like "Airplane Mode" and "Airplane Radios", so the second one doesn't turn off anything, but set, what to control with "Airplane Mode" action. Setting seems to be system wide and permanent (saved after reboot).
Good luck
Hello all,
I am wondering if anybody has any ideas on how i can set my bluetooth and wireless to automatically turn off if they haven't connected to anything in 15 or 30 minutes.
The reason i want to do this is after i leave my home i don't need my wifi until i get back home and after i leave my car i don't need my bluetooth until i get back in it at the end of the day, sometimes i forget these things are still on and they slowly eat at the battery...
I've got the Samsung S3 (AT&T) (i747m Canadian version) although its been rooted and installed CM 10.1 nightly build March 06 there must be some way to do this.
thanks for any ideas!
Alex
Not sure about Bluetooth but you can adjust WiFi settings in the WiFi menu within the advance settings
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For the wifi, try out this app... it will just blip the wifi every time you unlock the screen, and if a network is available it will leave it on, if not it will turn it off. When the screen is off, it will turn off wifi, depending on your traffic settings. Blipping the wifi on uses very little power, so it is very efficient to do it this way. LOVE this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLDEsImNvbS5hc2tzdmVuLmJldHRlcndpZmlvbm9mZiJd
As for the bluetooth, only way I know of is using Tasker... there is a profile available in the tasker wiki that will turn off unused bluetooth after a few minutes.
Also, wrong section...
sulpher said:
For the wifi, try out this app... it will just blip the wifi every time you unlock the screen, and if a network is available it will leave it on, if not it will turn it off. When the screen is off, it will turn off wifi, depending on your traffic settings. Blipping the wifi on uses very little power, so it is very efficient to do it this way. LOVE this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLDEsImNvbS5hc2tzdmVuLmJldHRlcndpZmlvbm9mZiJd
As for the bluetooth, only way I know of is using Tasker... there is a profile available in the tasker wiki that will turn off unused bluetooth after a few minutes.
Also, wrong section...
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tectiles you can do this too (either enable/disable or run that app)
Using NFC on the GS3 I came across this YouTube video on using NFC tags with the GS3. With with an app like NFC Task Launcher you can configure your phone to turn on/off wifi, bluetooth, or just about any task or series of tasks you'd like.