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Please see the full thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735830
But this sums up where this project is at:
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ok guys.. some bad news.. Talked with Matt2 on a business level and after i went over some figures with him, my calculations were so far off.. i should be on mars..
The break even point for this project is 275+/- 10/12 extras.
I have been saying 150 and I am not sure where I got that unless I was not calculating the shipping since I did free shipping.
We are at 129 at the time of writing this.
So here is my question, I have always said, I will refund if we stop this without it being made. We had over 350+ that wanted this.
My initial thought was to spend the several hours tonight to just cancel/refund.. but then I figured we came this far. I also go on vacation Sept 10-18.
So what I propose, today is the 11th of August. Lets give it till the 25th of August. 2 Weeks... If we are not even close, then I will spend the next 2 days refunding..
So listen.. if anyone out there wants this.. buy it now.. or it will not get made.. To all of those that did buy.. sorry its taking so long, your money is safe. I am not out to steal anything, I just want the door to be made.
Thanks
Joe
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Thats crazy man but just like your saying, i actually am one of the dudes who said he was going to order one and i havent been on XDA in awhile, sorry i didnt see the thread but ill put an order in for one now. Best of luck, i hope we make it.
I'm sure though that if you made 275 you wouldn't have any problem at all selling them, both on here and on ebay. I'm surprised you have as many preorders as you do, considering you don't have a product to ship.
I just ordered mine. Can't wait to see it!
sketchy sketchy
yea dont forget about all the people not on xda or the other forums your doing this on. if you get close enough where you can afford to invest a little, do it and sell the rest after they are made.
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STFU! GET OFF THE BOARDS!
go back in the hairy little hole you crawled out of.
Joey has been upfront with all of us following this project from the start. He is human like the rest of us. first time he has done something like this and im sure he now knows to "measure twice cut once" always check the numbers and check them again to be sure... so we will wait it out and see what happens not a big deal!
We didnt even know if it was going to make production after the first couple days because so many VOTED YES TO THE PROJECT AND THEN DISAPPEARED when it came time to pony up for the pre-order. If people would have kept their word about ordering they would be in production already!
Joey....how many people actually place an order of the 359 that originally voted yes?
Would raising the price of each one by a couple of bucks per door get them to the target without needing more preorders?
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STFU! GET OFF THE BOARDS!
go back in the hairy little hole you crawled out of.
Joey has been upfront with all of us following this project from the start. He is human like the rest of us. first time he has done something like this and im sure he now knows to "measure twice cut once" always check the numbers and check them again to be sure... so we will wait it out and see what happens not a big deal!
We didnt even know if it was going to make production after the first couple days because so many VOTED YES TO THE PROJECT AND THEN DISAPPEARED when it came time to pony up for the pre-order. If people would have kept their word about ordering they would be in production already!
Joey....how many people actually place an order of the 359 that originally voted yes?
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I am not sure of the numbers. I dont mind investing my own $ into it.. But I am just trying to get alot closer to that break even point.. If I sell more after, thats great but tbh, I am doing this as a community buy... not trying to get rich (not that I think that is even possible)
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Would raising the price of each one by a couple of bucks per door get them to the target without needing more preorders?
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Or not giving us the multiple discount id give the 2$ back if need be...
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Or not giving us the multiple discount id give the 2$ back if need be...
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no, either of those would help but still not enough. thanks for the offer though
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Or not giving us the multiple discount id give the 2$ back if need be...
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Yeah, I would love to have these, even if it does mean I sacrifice 2$
Joey, if you don't mind disclosing, how much money down you need to get these produced?
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Yeah, I would love to have these, even if it does mean I sacrifice 2$
Joey, if you don't mind disclosing, how much money down you need to get these produced?
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14.99 * 275 = X
115 sold * 14.99 = Y
X-Y = what is left
joey3002 said:
14.99 * 275 = X
115 sold * 14.99 = Y
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So is "X" literally "Breaking Even" for you guys?
sprink0281 said:
STFU! GET OFF THE BOARDS!
go back in the hairy little hole you crawled out of.
Joey has been upfront with all of us following this project from the start. He is human like the rest of us. first time he has done something like this and im sure he now knows to "measure twice cut once" always check the numbers and check them again to be sure... so we will wait it out and see what happens not a big deal!
We didnt even know if it was going to make production after the first couple days because so many VOTED YES TO THE PROJECT AND THEN DISAPPEARED when it came time to pony up for the pre-order. If people would have kept their word about ordering they would be in production already!
Joey....how many people actually place an order of the 359 that originally voted yes?
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whoa there man, little crazy of a response dont you think. i am entitled to my opinion that this is sketchy. if you dont agree fine, but personal unprovoked attack is a bit much dont you think?
If you would have followed for the past month + you would see this is not sketchy.. I have kept everyone updated the entire time... And how can a complete refund be sketchy?
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whoa there man, little crazy of a response dont you think. i am entitled to my opinion that this is sketchy. if you dont agree fine, but personal unprovoked attack is a bit much dont you think?
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Calling someone sketchy is a personal attack.... joey has been upfront with us every step of the way...I only gave you some of your own medicine. That's all nothing more..
It aggravating when you watch someone work their ass off for the community on a project and have half of the people disappear who were supposed to order, then have you call this guy sketchy when hes done nothing but try to make us happy by seeing this project through any way he can... nobody else even came close to a comment like yours.
I followed the thread, saw all the updates, saw members commit money with delay after delay. I understand **** takes time but every post was "here is a final prototype but yours wont look like this" point is, promising something, taking peoples money, then GOING ON VACATION to wait it out IS sketchy whether you can admit it on not. You seem to have a serious personal stake in this or with the op but from an outside perspective it IS sketchy. If the op falls through and refunds everyones money then fine, that doesn't mean the situation was any less sketchy.
You say it wasn't sketchy because he kept everyone up to date, guess what, so do Nigerien scammers. Him keeping everyone updated is not a fool proof reassurance.
Sorry bro. Been holding out until I could see the finished product. Went ahead and ordered because I really want one. Thanks for the time an effort. Will tell my buddies with evos.
If you don't want one, don't send him money and leave the thread. I don't see how hard that is. And it's not that hard to get money back through paypal.
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I followed the thread, saw all the updates, saw members commit money with delay after delay. I understand **** takes time but every post was "here is a final prototype but yours wont look like this" point is, promising something, taking peoples money, then GOING ON VACATION to wait it out IS sketchy whether you can admit it on not. You seem to have a serious personal stake in this or with the op but from an outside perspective it IS sketchy. If the op falls through and refunds everyones money then fine, that doesn't mean the situation was any less sketchy.
You say it wasn't sketchy because he kept everyone up to date, guess what, so do Nigerien scammers. Him keeping everyone updated is not a fool proof reassurance.
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This will be my last reply to you...
This was not a person that had one post and decided to start asking for peoples money..before this went to pre-order he told us of his VACATION and possible delivery dates. I have been involved with community generated projects in the past and they all involved a pre-order because these types of projects are not cheap to get started and not done to make an initial profit, they are to help get something made the community wants and doesn't exist, once the community is taken care of then you try to make money from the project by exploring different ways to market said item at a significantly higher price. He is not a prince from Nigeria sending unsolicited emails trying to get my bank info so that comparison was completely stupid AND HE IS USING PAYPAL! Wait did I mention PAYPAL! Nobody had to western union him cash or transfer cash into his account, so we feel very confident because at the end of the day if this doesn't get to production we WILL ALL GET OUR MONEY BACK BECAUSE HE USED PAYPAL! Easy for him to refund our money and has buyer protection. My personal stake in this -- I want a unique clear and colored battery door for my evo, made in the USA sold in the USA by someone in the community who actually followed thru! Joey took a poll to see how many people would buy one and it was more than enough for this project to move forward! It is not his fault that some people are not doing their part of the project and pre-ordering to get these to production.
Like I said this is my last response to you regarding this thread...you are officially on my ignore list.
My buddy was telling me about how there is a site that allows people to hire others, and they give them a "free place to live, and food" in exchange for their manual labor on their farm, or whatever they own. Does anyone know what he is talking about?
Honestly, no clue. Why don't you ask your buddy about it?
Well..he drinks a bit, ha. And i don't know if it's real or not, so i figured i would ask the masses. He said he found it on the internet, but forgets it now..
At that point I'd personally just dismiss it, but just me.
What he's describing is feudalism.
Eh, i usually would. But i want to move around for the next couple of years, and this would be perfect.
Ranchers do this in Texas and Wyoming quite a bit. Room and board for labor on the ranch.
It's HARD work and LONG hours and not for alot of people but it's a job and a place to stay.
I dunno.....kinda sounds shady.....
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I dunno.....kinda sounds shady.....
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Does..but would be awesome.
I heard about this too, it's kindof like a craigslisttype thing, but just for odd jobs.... you post what you need done, and what your willing to pay, then people can respond and do the work. I never caught the site name, but it does exist....
Why do you ask? And here of all places?
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I heard about this too, it's kindof like a craigslisttype thing, but just for odd jobs.... you post what you need done, and what your willing to pay, then people can respond and do the work. I never caught the site name, but it does exist....
Why do you ask? And here of all places?
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I would love to move around and just experience the world..do random stuff, ya know? And i am on a variety of forums, but this is probably the most tech savvy, and would have greater results.
Sounds like slavery to me. Working for the minimist of wages, grits and tattered clothes.
Fair enough.
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maybe something like this?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=...avclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGHP_enUS428US428&ie=UTF-8
i had heard of something where someone can travel and live with random people as well also dont know if it was fake or not but usually requires back ground check etc i beleave
also maybe this lol
http://www.google.com/search?hl=&q=...avclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGHP_enUS428US428&ie=UTF-8
It's not shady. Like the one guy said, a lot of ranchers do this out west.
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also maybe this lol
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I am looking at the house sitting thing..seems rather neat. But i would still have to make some sort of money to pay for bills and such, ya know?
I have heard of couch surfers, but see above.
kind of like an au pair? I don't want anyone from this site near my kids, especially apple users
What he was talking about was a sort of farm like thing, where people hire you in, let you live at their house, you do work, and get paid some. But you wouldn't get paid that much because you are getting free food and board.
Lol seems like someone read up on indentured servants and thought maybe this will catch on again.
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OP, if you want to travel, live with random people, have room and board provided, AND get paid for it... Join the Armed Services.
Come on, where's all the doubters that claimed ms would not be able to pull off a mango update till next year some time huh???? Well looks like yall were wrong!!!
Go check the wheresmyphoneupdate website and you will notice mango is being DELIVERED to all carriers as we speak.
Congratulations Microsoft and thank you. Now please get busy on Tango and Apollo. ;-)
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I said this in a thread earlier, and one of them acted completely lost about it, I found it a bit funny.
That's what I thought, no where to be heard. Silent.
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Even I didn't expect Microsoft to handle it as well as they did. Everything was flawless.
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I'm one of them, and I'm right here enjoying my new operating system.
Just because I was cynical doesn't mean I'm upset about being proven wrong? I was calling for Q2 2012 (which I have mentioned in another thread btw), and I was definitely proven wrong. Which is fantastic.
But let's also be clear, I did the disconnect method. If not, I didn't think it'd come through naturally until at least November, maybe even end of December.
Next, I would like to ask all the people that said WP would fail like the Kin to post their "revised" thoughts....
And 1 year from now when Apollo is released, when WP finally has some respectable market share (thanks to Mango) I want to re-ask that same question....
LOL
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Even I didn't expect Microsoft to handle it as well as they did. Everything was flawless.
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I have to admit myself I was surprised how fast I got the update. I did no hacking at all to get RTM. I was on 7712 and yesterday around 1PM plugged my phone into Zune and BOOM, there it was!
But I never did think it would take them forever like it did with Nodo. I think they learned a lot from Nodo fiasco.
they're feeling too salty to post.
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But let's also be clear, I did the disconnect method. If not, I didn't think it'd come through naturally until at least November, maybe even end of December.
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Actually, all phones will have received the update halfway through October. This isn't like NoDo, not even close.
I just want to say thank you Microsoft.The rest is evident
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Thank you.
A nice thread to negate the crap happening everywhere esle in the forum.
Being a UK users, I do not get all the goodies, but there are ways around some.
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Thank you.
A nice thread to negate the crap happening everywhere esle in the forum.
Being a UK users, I do not get all the goodies, but there are ways around some.
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I see what the OP's point is, but this definitely not a positive thread
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I see what the OP's point is, but this definitely not a positive thread
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I don't think you and others were the target of positivity - WP and Microsoft were
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I see what the OP's point is, but this definitely not a positive thread
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Well, it is essentially an off-handed compliment to Microsoft and WP7. In that sense, it's positive. Other than that, this thread does kind of make a point about human behavior. Naysayers almost always disappear when they are wrong.
Funny thing about this entire Mango (non)incident is that Microsoft implied that Mango may not be out until some time in 2012 at various points around its announcement.
I'm one of the people who didn't expect Mango until 2012.
This post doesn't really do anything. It was a win/win for me: either they prove me right by fumbling this update like NoDo or they prove me wrong by delivering a huge update to my phone.
I was wrong but I still win so there's nothing for me to be salty about.
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I'm one of the people who didn't expect Mango until 2012.
This post doesn't really do anything. It was a win/win for me: either they prove me right by fumbling this update like NoDo or they prove me wrong by delivering a huge update to my phone.
I was wrong but I still win so there's nothing for me to be salty about.
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Nothing personal but you bring up a good point.
In sports talk, they call this a fair-weather fan. When their team is winning, they run around waving a banner. When their team is losing, they speak in doom and gloom how the team will never do anything right. When their team starts winning again, everyone is so happy they forget about the behavior of the fair-weather fan. In essence, the fair-weather fan seems to be able to have his cake and eat it too. So, it's a win-win if you will.
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Nothing personal but you bring up a good point.
In sports talk, they call this a fair-weather fan. When their team is winning, they run around waving a banner. When their team is losing, they speak in doom and gloom how the team will never do anything right. When their team starts winning again, everyone is so happy they forget about the behavior of the fair-weather fan. In essence, the fair-weather fan seems to be able to have his cake and eat it too. So, it's a win-win if you will.
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I'm one of the people who didn't expect Mango until 2012.
This post doesn't really do anything. It was a win/win for me: either they prove me right by fumbling this update like NoDo or they prove me wrong by delivering a huge update to my phone.
I was wrong but I still win so there's nothing for me to be salty about.
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These two posts = the point I was trying to make on the first page.
I don't think most people cared or thought that. At least not the decently intelligent ones. Microsoft took a year to get Mango out the door. That was long enough to stop caring for a lot of people. The issue was never if they could do it before 2012, it was if they could do it before it started looking like they wanted to use it as an incentive to sell 2nd gen phones.
And they pretty much did just that by releasing such unfutureproof devices last year and taking so long to get the update out.
The update is good, but it's all bittersweet to me.
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Nothing personal but you bring up a good point.
In sports talk, they call this a fair-weather fan. When their team is winning, they run around waving a banner. When their team is losing, they speak in doom and gloom how the team will never do anything right. When their team starts winning again, everyone is so happy they forget about the behavior of the fair-weather fan. In essence, the fair-weather fan seems to be able to have his cake and eat it too. So, it's a win-win if you will.
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Yea, there are lots of fair-weather fans here in Philly, especially with the Phillies & Eagles.
I wouldn't consider myself one of those. I would consider myself a fan who voices his concerns & opinions, usually with four letter words. I'm still a fan of the winning team, but I can't not let you know that your defensive line sucks against the run, or that your lineup doesn't seem to have it's head in the game.
I actually would consider the people who beat the 2012 drum responsible for MS to move at the speed they did. Instead of being salty, we should actually be proud.
Not sure if any of you guys have heard of The Verge yet, but its the new tech blog type of venture Joshua Topolksy (the Engadget guy). I like it but we will see if they become Apple fanboys over there too. I started a thread regarding LoS just to get the issue out there. Here is the link! Blow this sheeeeit up!
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/1/2530362/sgsii-epic-4g-touch-loss-of-service
Ya know, it bugs me that every little issue with the new iPhone is plastered all over every tech blog on earth and yet our phone gets nothing mentioned about the major issues it has for some people. Hope something comes of this.
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Ya know, it bugs me that every little issue with the new iPhone is plastered all over every tech blog on earth and yet our phone gets nothing mentioned about the major issues it has for some people. Hope something comes of this.
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Haha I agree!
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Not sure if any of you guys have heard of The Verge yet, but its the new tech blog type of venture Joshua Topolksy (the Engadget guy). I like it but we will see if they become Apple fanboys over there too.
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Lol the The Verge/This is My Next was started by the exodus of the Apple fanboys from Engadget.
Engadget's coverage of Android got significantly more even-handed after they left.
If you ask me, the only people who think Topolosky and crew are Apple fanboys are Android fanboys. Joshua's daily phone is the Nexus S which he's been very happy with, plus he had some fantastic coverage of ICS. (and was very impressed with ICS)
Ya know, it bugs me that every little issue with the new iPhone is plastered all over every tech blog on earth and yet our phone gets nothing mentioned about the major issues it has for some people. Hope something comes of this.
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First the Android fanboys get mad because Engadget posted an article about how the Evo 4G had a capped frame-rate. (remember that EVO owners?? I sure do) They said, "how come Engadget only posts negative stuff about Android and not about the iPhone??" Never minding the fact that "Antenna Gate" got loads of coverage. Now you're complaining about them not covering the LOS issue?
Oh well, nothing to do but laugh I guess.
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If you ask me, the only people who think Topolosky and crew are Apple fanboys are Android fanboys. Joshua's daily phone is the Nexus S which he's been very happy with, plus he had some fantastic coverage of ICS. (and was very impressed with ICS)
First the Android fanboys get mad because Engadget posted an article about how the Evo 4G had a capped frame-rate. (remember that EVO owners?? I sure do) They said, "how come Engadget only posts negative stuff about Android and not about the iPhone??" Never minding the fact that "Antenna Gate" got loads of coverage. Now you're complaining about them not covering the LOS issue?
Oh well, nothing to do but laugh I guess.
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Yes I'm complaining. The iPhones issues will be addressed much faster because the average person can read about them anywhere and that puts pressure on Apple to fix a device that "just works". Our issues are listed here and on Sprint forums so the rest of the world doesn't know that Samsung and Sprint drag their feet with important updates. There's no pressure on these companies except from people they've already taken money from. Apple has to uphold an image and it will. Samsung and Sprint just have to keep blaming each other and putting off what they surely can fix.
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If you ask me, the only people who think Topolosky and crew are Apple fanboys are Android fanboys. Joshua's daily phone is the Nexus S which he's been very happy with, plus he had some fantastic coverage of ICS. (and was very impressed with ICS)
First the Android fanboys get mad because Engadget posted an article about how the Evo 4G had a capped frame-rate. (remember that EVO owners?? I sure do) They said, "how come Engadget only posts negative stuff about Android and not about the iPhone??" Never minding the fact that "Antenna Gate" got loads of coverage. Now you're complaining about them not covering the LOS issue?
Oh well, nothing to do but laugh I guess.
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I wasnt complaining! I just posted to help it get more attention. And i like the Verge its a pretty sick site. I also follow engadget religiously. Even the forum threads look like actual blog posts haha
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No worries guys, didn't mean my post to come across so snippy. And I agree that it would be great to get some coverage of this issue (though I personally haven't had it yet.. knock on wood). I also completely agree with poppygt that Samsung/Sprint will just blame each other until someone puts some heat on them.
I love Android, but getting support for anything more than the most basic of functions is the one thing that is really frustrating. When you find a bug, there's almost nothing you can do except post about it on the internet. The problem is that there are 3 throats to choke: the carrier, the manufacturer, and Google. None of them is really setup to do much. Both the carrier and the manufacturer just want to get you off the phone as quickly as possible. Their only way to really help you is to replace your phone, which is usually pointless when dealing with a bug. I guess Google kinda/sorta has a support site where you can file bugs, but it's not exactly easy to find and it's hard to know if anyone ever looks at them, let alone fix them.
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No worries guys, didn't mean my post to come across so snippy. And I agree that it would be great to get some coverage of this issue (though I personally haven't had it yet.. knock on wood). I also completely agree with poppygt that Samsung/Sprint will just blame each other until someone puts some heat on them.
I love Android, but getting support for anything more than the most basic of functions is the one thing that is really frustrating. When you find a bug, there's almost nothing you can do except post about it on the internet. The problem is that there are 3 throats to choke: the carrier, the manufacturer, and Google. None of them is really setup to do much. Both the carrier and the manufacturer just want to get you off the phone as quickly as possible. Their only way to really help you is to replace your phone, which is usually pointless when dealing with a bug. I guess Google kinda/sorta has a support site where you can file bugs, but it's not exactly easy to find and it's hard to know if anyone ever looks at them, let alone fix them.
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If everything was vertical within Google/Android like Apple is, it would be a lot less of a headache for us. Funny thing is, the sales for Android still don't really suffer even with bugs on the manufacturing side of things. It has the "bad ass" factor, haha. Majority of users (not us XDA folks) don't even realize the bugs, they will think its their phone and like you said just get a new one so that in itself prevents issues from getting more attention because everyday consumers don't really think of it as a bug but the phone itself.
Anyways, I love android. The end. haha.
I know someone at my work is picking up my phone when I am away and was wondering if there is an App that could record when my phone is being picked up. Hopefully it could even silently take a picture of the person doing it!
Ideally I would return to my work station and have the information I need.. I don't use a PC at my job so that is why I am looking for an App that can do this. Something like Cerberus without the theft aspect,lol.
I have searched and can't find anything... Please don't comment about screen locks and PIN Codes. I know about keeping people out. I want to see who/when people are trying to sneak in.
Thank you
I used Gotya facetrap,it has a option to take a picture whenever the screen turns on or whenever someone enter the wrong passcode or pattern
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.myboyfriendisageek.gotya
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Thank you for your post. I just watched the video for this App and I am impressed. The App is VERY close to what I am looking for.
The thing I want (ideally) the App to do (besides what this one does) is have the ability to take a photo or video/time & date stamp an unauthorized user who is trying to access my phone without attempting to "unlock" it.
If my phone is locked they will most likely only try once, I am sure, and then stop their pattern of "sneaky behavior"..
I want to know who is trying access my phone whether it is locked or unlocked.
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Thank you for your post. I just watched the video for this App and I am impressed. The App is VERY close to what I am looking for.
The thing I want (ideally) the App to do (besides what this one does) is have the ability to take a photo or video/time & date stamp an unauthorized user who is trying to access my phone without attempting to "unlock" it.
If my phone is locked they will most likely only try once, I am sure, and then stop their pattern of "sneaky behavior"..
I want to know who is trying access my phone whether it is locked or unlocked.
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That app have a function which will take screen shot whenever they turn on the screen,they don't even have to attempt to enter your password/pattern for it to take a picture & you can have it email you a picture of the culprit with a time stamp/date of when the pic was taken,it even have the option to turn on a system tray notification on pull down bar which will also have time stamp.
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Thanks Lord_Kaizer
I bought the App and it is as you said. Just turning the screen on takes a picture. Let the games begin, lol!:victory:
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Thanks Lord_Kaizer
I bought the App and it is as you said. Just turning the screen on takes a picture. Let the games begin, lol!:victory:
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lol,nice
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Jerry D said:
Thanks Lord_Kaizer
I bought the App and it is as you said. Just turning the screen on takes a picture. Let the games begin, lol!:victory:
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Let us know who it was
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lol yeah, it's called pocket and it's by your hip... but forealdo, why don't you just put the damn thing in your pocket.
Please let us know. This sounds like it'll be interesting and Fun.
boodies said:
lol yeah, it's called pocket and it's by your hip... but forealdo, why don't you just put the damn thing in your pocket.
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That's what I was wondering.... Why not do like the rest of us and keep it secured on your person. I understand if you want on using this in the event your phone is lost/stolen. But you wanna know who picks it up... As in like a nosy girlfriend haha.... That's about the only thing I'd use this for
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yungtexas said:
That's what I was wondering.... Why not do like the rest of us and keep it secured on your person. I understand if you want on using this in the event your phone is lost/stolen. But you wanna know who picks it up... As in like a nosy girlfriend haha.... That's about the only thing I'd use this for
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Yeah, he's just asking for it. It'll only be a matter of time before someone picks it up and instead of putting it back down puts it in their own pocket. I recommend you put it in your pocket! Happy New Years!
Rather than quote and reply to the non helpful comments I will put things into perspective for people. LOl.. I know you want to know.
I need to get evidence that a coworker (a bully to say the least) is entering my private work area, touching my personal property and trying to access my personal information, without my permission. If my phone is in my pocket I can't do that hence the need for an App like this.
[Btw. If you were a women and a coworker was going through your pocketbook while you were away from your cube would you just carry your pocketbook around the office with you all the time? Imagine all the women doing that and the atmosphere it would create.]
I like to solve problems not ignore or run from them. This coworker IS crossing the line.. My workplace is a mess because nobody will take any action against this coworker..
I am trying to solve a serious problem at my place of employment. The person I suspect/know who is doing this causes all kinds of other "nonsense" at work. They create a very negative working environment every single day. They have been there a long time and feel they can do whatever they want with impunity.
Everyone wants this person to stop their negative behavior but they don't know how to deal with it because the person has been there so long.. it's a small company. No Human resource Dept,ect.. People are "afraid" of this coworker. They don't want to get fired. Politics you know?
I hoping to catch them, confront them and put some fear in them so that they stop ALL their Nonsense.. I "will have the goods on them" and be empowered to make a change in their negative behavior. They cannot defend their "touching" of MY property.. I have already openly mentioned to people that I think someone is touching my stuff while I'm away from my desk. Did it stop? No. It started to happen even more, lol..
This "person" is so insidious if you bring your phone with you to the bathroom they complain to everyone that you are in the bathroom on your phone. Unbelievable I tell you!..
Someone has to stand up to this "person" and a picture is worth more than my word against theirs.. Like all Bully's this person is a coward and will be afraid when confronted with evidence of wrong doing..
The person is 54yrs old with no real marketable job skills. They lose their job and they are screwed. Hopefully they can change or be humbled by the realization that they CAN'T do what ever they want to people.
Happy New Year Everyone!
P.S.
Trust is the glue that binds all relationships. If I needed this app because I didn't trust my girlfriend I would get another girlfriend.
Jerry D said:
Rather than quote and reply to the non helpful comments I will put things into perspective for people. LOl.. I know you want to know.
I need to get evidence that a coworker (a bully to say the least) is entering my private work area, touching my personal property and trying to access my personal information, without my permission. If my phone is in my pocket I can't do that hence the need for an App like this.
[Btw. If you were a women and a coworker was going through your pocketbook while you were away from your cube would you just carry your pocketbook around the office with you all the time? Imagine all the women doing that and the atmosphere it would create.]
I like to solve problems not ignore or run from them. This coworker IS crossing the line.. My workplace is a mess because nobody will take any action against this coworker..
I am trying to solve a serious problem at my place of employment. The person I suspect/know who is doing this causes all kinds of other "nonsense" at work. They create a very negative working environment every single day. They have been there a long time and feel they can do whatever they want with impunity.
Everyone wants this person to stop their negative behavior but they don't know how to deal with it because the person has been there so long.. it's a small company. No Human resource Dept,ect.. People are "afraid" of this coworker. They don't want to get fired. Politics you know?
I hoping to catch them, confront them and put some fear in them so that they stop ALL their Nonsense.. I "will have the goods on them" and be empowered to make a change in their negative behavior. They cannot defend their "touching" of MY property.. I have already openly mentioned to people that I think someone is touching my stuff while I'm away from my desk. Did it stop? No. It started to happen even more, lol..
This "person" is so insidious if you bring your phone with you to the bathroom they complain to everyone that you are in the bathroom on your phone. Unbelievable I tell you!..
Someone has to stand up to this "person" and a picture is worth more than my word against theirs.. Like all Bully's this person is a coward and will be afraid when confronted with evidence of wrong doing..
The person is 54yrs old with no real marketable job skills. They lose their job and they are screwed. Hopefully they can change or be humbled by the realization that they CAN'T do what ever they want to people.
Happy New Year Everyone!
P.S.
Trust is the glue that binds all relationships. If I needed this app because I didn't trust my girlfriend I would get another girlfriend.
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I have never heard of an app to do that. Ur better off getting a clock radio camera and record it. Or just confront the bully. It about the only way to resolve this issue
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I completely understand your reasoning for needing this app but kind of like BACARDILIMON said, I'd go with a fiber optics type route. That way you can get a video of the perp coming into your workspace and get a little more proof of what they are doing other than the fact that you have a picture of their face on your phone. Plus, the cameras are a bit safer because if something of yours were to walk away, you would have prove as to who did it and exactly when.
Anyways, good luck with your CSI work
I second the covert camera idea. This is clearly the way to go. I wouldn't even hang it over the person's head. Just take it to the boss and discuss the hostile work environment the co-worker is creating for everybody.
Don't sit on it either. Evidence is best when fresh. Give it a couple weeks and it gets to be stale and brings up questions of your motives.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
Jerry D said:
Rather than quote and reply to the non helpful comments I will put things into perspective for people. LOl.. I know you want to know.
I need to get evidence that a coworker (a bully to say the least) is entering my private work area, touching my personal property and trying to access my personal information, without my permission. If my phone is in my pocket I can't do that hence the need for an App like this.
[Btw. If you were a women and a coworker was going through your pocketbook while you were away from your cube would you just carry your pocketbook around the office with you all the time? Imagine all the women doing that and the atmosphere it would create.]
I like to solve problems not ignore or run from them. This coworker IS crossing the line.. My workplace is a mess because nobody will take any action against this coworker..
I am trying to solve a serious problem at my place of employment. The person I suspect/know who is doing this causes all kinds of other "nonsense" at work. They create a very negative working environment every single day. They have been there a long time and feel they can do whatever they want with impunity.
Everyone wants this person to stop their negative behavior but they don't know how to deal with it because the person has been there so long.. it's a small company. No Human resource Dept,ect.. People are "afraid" of this coworker. They don't want to get fired. Politics you know?
I hoping to catch them, confront them and put some fear in them so that they stop ALL their Nonsense.. I "will have the goods on them" and be empowered to make a change in their negative behavior. They cannot defend their "touching" of MY property.. I have already openly mentioned to people that I think someone is touching my stuff while I'm away from my desk. Did it stop? No. It started to happen even more, lol..
This "person" is so insidious if you bring your phone with you to the bathroom they complain to everyone that you are in the bathroom on your phone. Unbelievable I tell you!..
Someone has to stand up to this "person" and a picture is worth more than my word against theirs.. Like all Bully's this person is a coward and will be afraid when confronted with evidence of wrong doing..
The person is 54yrs old with no real marketable job skills. They lose their job and they are screwed. Hopefully they can change or be humbled by the realization that they CAN'T do what ever they want to people.
Happy New Year Everyone!
P.S.
Trust is the glue that binds all relationships. If I needed this app because I didn't trust my girlfriend I would get another girlfriend.
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dude, just get one of those pen spy cams...
edit: seems guy above mentioned it.
BACARDILIMON said:
I have never heard of an app to do that. Ur better off getting a clock radio camera and record it. Or just confront the bully. It about the only way to resolve this issue
If you read the thread you would know that there is an App that DOES what I was hoping for in my OP. Lord_Kaizer gave us the name of that App (GotYa!) and a link to that App. GotYa! It works Great..
I actually have audio and video of this person harassing me/coworkers, sleeping on the job and other "nonsense".. However I started to think about the possible Legal Issues concerning the audio and video recording of someone without their knowledge. I'm not a Lawyer but I am sure it can't be Legal.
I don't want to get fired. This person has some power and latitude on the job. This is a serious matter that I'm about to "take on" for the benefit of me and my fellow coworkers. I HAVE to be Smart about this..
This App will provide me with picture after picture day after day of this "not nice" person attempting to access my personal property without my knowledge or permission.
A LINE HAS BEEN CROSSED. GotYa! LOL.. They can't weasel out of this one!
The pictures will have a time and date attached to them. The App will email the pictures to me in real time (time and date again) to ensure a "chain". The person can't say that I just took pictures of them and edited times and dates, bla bla bla.. you can't edit the times and dates on emails.
Anyways, you are right about the only way to resolve the issue is to confront the bully. My physical evidence WILL Negate any he said she said "Brush Off".. this is how the Owner has handled "matters" in the past. The Owner isn't stupid though and WILL call his lawyers for advise...
I have a Legitimate anti-theft app on my phone that enabled me to discover that a coworker is attempting to what? read, access/steal my personal information? I have a $700 Smart Phone. My whole life is in here.
Why are they regularly "going into" my Personal phone. I have a reasonable expectation that this behavior isn't happening to me on the job. Surely this behavior is against "The Rules".. I will show that this is a pattern of behavior and not some random event.
This is a very serious Matter. My job will be on the line when I expose this A....e
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boodies said:
dude, just get one of those pen spy cams...
edit: seems guy above mentioned it.
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I let your first non-helpful post slide because I saw you have a 153 thanks and figured that you are a helpful and productive member of Our Community.
I used your second non-helpful post as a reason to enlighten Community Members as to why I need the GotYa! App and hopefully show how technology can be used to Empower people and not be victims..
Have you watched the Youtube video for this App?? The man in the video was robbed at an ATM, at gun point, and was able to get the criminal caught for the crime because he had this App installed..
Now that I have read your 3rd non-helpful post I see that you are just Trolling my Thread.
Please stop Trolling my Thread.