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Orb streaming

I tried to search for it so I'm sorry if this is a repeat...
Has anyone else tried Orb streaming service. I think it's the best thing I've found since my WM6 Rom and of course it's free and requires no new install on the phone.
Once you download an app to your computer to allow it to stream media out, you can access media on your computer over the web. This isn't a new concept, but the thing that stands out for me is the fact that it works great with the hermes - streaming stored videos, pictures, and music from the PC (among other things)
If you have a TV tuner on your computer it's even better. It will let you watch live TV or previously recorded TV. It will even let you schedule a recording from the phone if you forgot while you were at home (albeit - not through WMC rather their own, but they usually play nice).
My only recomendation is to lower the expected stream speed to 40 or 80 kbps at the bottom of mobile website to eliminate chopiness. Also, if you have a media player other than WMP on the phone - make sure the stream goes to WMP (it works well in there)

i have been using it for a couple years, and its great for live tv and i have a few hundred divx movies on my harddrive that i can stream and its free!

Yes, it is a very nice program. I've been using it for a while, too. It even supports webcams. Probably one of the best programs I've ever used.

I just wish it was able to skip commercials on a recorded tv program or skip to a point in a recorded TV show...

yeah it is a great service! i've been using it even before i got into winmo (which was in '03!!)
GreyGabe, edit the comercials out on your pc with a vid editing software...

same here, using it for years. first started to stream with it on my MPX220 (non-edge) and i was blown away then. About to stream one of my shows in an hour or so at work....
Just for live TV, have a decent computer. after i did an upgrade to a better processor and ram, the streams coppyness/buffering almost dissappeared. Also, having something better than DSL helped a lot too...

[GUIDE] How to use DLNA

OK Peeps,
Someone in Coolexe’s rom thread asked me what DLNA was and how to use it. As I couldn’t point them straight to a guide I thought I’d better write one. Plus I’m sure some of you don’t even know what it is!
From Wikipedia:
DLNA (Digital Living Network Alliance) is a standard used by manufacturers of consumer electronics to allow entertainment devices within the home to share their content with each other across a home network.
So what can I use my Desire for in the world of DLNA?
1. Stream movies you have stored on your phone wirelessly to a DLNA compatible TV/device
2. Stream music you have stored on your phone wirelessly to a DLNA compatible TV/device
3. Show pictures you’ve taken on your phone wirelessly to a DLNA compatible TV/device
4. Stream movies/music/pictures wirelessly from a DLNA compatible device to you phone
Before I go into details about using DLNA I’ll give you a quick overview of what kit I’ve got that makes it all possible. Firstly, I’ve got a Synology NAS which is DLNA compatible (other brands exist!) and stores all my media files. Secondly I’ve got a Windows Media Centre 7 PC hooked up to my main TV. And thirdly a HTC Desire, this must be running a Gingerbread rom with Sense. I mostly use Robo’s roms which have been working a treat but have been trying out some others recently but with mixed results, hopefully we can get these issues ironed out though.
So to be able to send media to my TV the first thing I need to do is turn on media streaming in Media Player. Hit the Stream button and choose Turn On Media Streaming. The default settings are fine so you can keep them. Next hit the Stream button again and choose Allow Remote Control Of My Player. Now you need to grab you Desire, make sure it’s connected to you WLAN and from the Apps menu click on Connected Media and choose the type of media you want to send. You should then be prompted to select the player, choose the player you’ve just setup in Windows. If you’re not prompted there’s a little button in the bottom right, just above the full volume icon, click it. Bingo, your chosen media will then be streamed to the computer and in my case the TV that’s connected to it.
Next up the more exciting bit, and the bit I use the most, streaming from my NAS to my Desire. Different NAS boxes will have different ways to enable DLNA but on my Synology it was just a matter of clicking on the box that turns that feature on and storing media in the shares it created. On your phone in the Apps menu choose the Video app. Click the button in the bottom left, the one with 3 parallel lines, you should end up at the Albums menu. Scroll along the strip at the bottom to Connected Media where it should search you network a DLAN devices. Select the device you want to stream from and you’ll be present with the DLNA folders on you NAS. Drill in through the folders to the movie or music you want played on your Desire, kick back and enjoy!
Over the weekend I’ll try and get some screen shots added, pictures say a millions words, and see if I can reword the guide to make it simpler to follow. Just wanted to get something up quick to help a fellow member out.

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nicely explaned, thanks for the tuto,
i've just checked my tv, i think i might need an RS lead or something to connect it to my laptop, problem is tv is too far from where the lapy is, but i got another solution , my satellite box (spiderbox) can be setup as a home stream server,did it from this guide http://cccam-exchange.com/viewtopic.php?f=211&t=509 it has got that feature cos i've set it up and connected already to an external server to watch the europeen leagues footie it's plugged to BT Hub, i think all i need is a wifi bridge to the sat box to save me putting the laptop by the tv, as i'm using it,don't want a long lead,gets in the way , i'll do bit of reading on that, to set it up and see when get time.
however i did plug the phone to sat box via usb (mounted), (satbox is PVR ready) , accesed the whole sd card content.using the satbox remote ,never knew that before till when this DLNA subject popped up, opened up a new feature for me.
cheers.

What ROM are you using to do this? as the video's app is not on my MIUI version?

voodooboy3000 said:
What ROM are you using to do this? as the video's app is not on my MIUI version?
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Robos latest test rom. Its got to be running gingerbread and sense.
Sent from my HTC Desire

Video resolution is low. And i guess VLC stream & convert is more suited to me. So i'll mainly use this for audio. Thanks for the solution. Easiest method that I found to stream music from my computer to my phone.

Is MiraCast superior to BubbleUPNP

My whole house is wired with CAT 6 ethernet. Everything except my tablet and my cell phone is connected with a wire. WIth my Nexus 7 I am able to browse to an HD video stored on any pc in my house with ES File Explorer. I am able to open the file with BubbleUPNP and stream it to any TV in the house. Most of the time, it works ok. Most importantly, the files are played with DTS audio. I have to have my surround sound.
How does MiraCast compare? I have searched for the past half hour and found not one mention of whether MiraCast supports DTS Audio for example. Does anybody have any info?

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My whole house is wired with CAT 6 ethernet. Everything except my tablet and my cell phone is connected with a wire. WIth my Nexus 7 I am able to browse to an HD video stored on any pc in my house with ES File Explorer. I am able to open the file with BubbleUPNP and stream it to any TV in the house. Most of the time, it works ok. Most importantly, the files are played with DTS audio. I have to have my surround sound.
How does MiraCast compare? I have searched for the past half hour and found not one mention of whether MiraCast supports DTS Audio for example. Does anybody have any info?
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It depends. BubbleUPNP runs in the background if you want to stream something that is compatible while Miracast is mirroring what is on your tablet.
On the other hand, BubbleUPNP is not compatible with everything (for example, Xfinity Streampix, or games) and also it isn't free.

I use Miracast regularly for watching YouTube videos. I also use it for movies once in a while. I like it because of the convenience it offers compared to my existing alternatives (WDTV & PS3 YouTube apps). I recently bought a Chromecast. So, I expect my dependence on Miracast to go down.
With Miracast, you get what you see in tablet. So, I assume there won't be any DTS audio.
I faced a few head aches when using Miracast initially:
1. It wouldn't connect reliably. I used to get stuttering in the video and audio. With the latest PTV3000 firmware, its working fine for me (see my post here).
2. The screen has to remain on all the time when you are playing something. To work around this, you will have to root your device and install Screen Standby app.
3. The TV resolution and Nexus 7 resolution should match. Otherwise, the video will get boxed. To work around this, I am using this app. Whenever I connect to Miracast, I use that app to manually set the Nexus 7 display resolution to 1920x1080, and revert to default after disconnecting. I came across another app that can do this automatically, but didn't try it because of its $6 price. Note that once you change the resolution, the icons will get misaligned (until you change it back).
4. I would also recommend the device be connected to a charger. I bought a Lugulake wireless portable charger so that I can leave the tablet on top of it without having to worry about battery.

Can PTV3000 be used as a DLNA renderer?
In BubbleUpnp, I can select the renderer device when playing music from my nas.
Can I use PTV3000 as a DLNA renderer without mirroring?

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In BubbleUpnp, I can select the renderer device when playing music from my nas.
Can I use PTV3000 as a DLNA renderer without mirroring?
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No. Only option is to choose the "Cast" option in tablet. Whatever you see in tablet will appear on TV. PTV3000 doesn't get listed as a renderer similar to how it is in BubbleUpnp. If you are concerned about having to leave the tablet on, if you are rooted, you can use Screen Standby app.

Thanks for the answer. I have one more.
Someone knows any device (blu-ray, media player, etc) supporting both "Miracast" and "DLNA rendering" systems with mkv playback?

Android Airplay alternatives

Not really a GPad specific question but i would like to try and use the GPad to stream mp3's from my computer to the TV.
I have had very limited success so far. Airstream gives me access to my computers files, twonky lets me beam my videos to my tv, but i cant seem to beam mp3's, they just play on the tablet. There is no option to send to the tv like with mp4's.
Also tried bubblepnp and air droid without success.
Anybody have it working, any better apps?

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Not really a GPad specific question but i would like to try and use the GPad to stream mp3's from my computer to the TV.
I have had very limited success so far. Airstream gives me access to my computers files, twonky lets me beam my videos to my tv, but i cant seem to beam mp3's, they just play on the tablet. There is no option to send to the tv like with mp4's.
Also tried bubblepnp and air droid without success.
Anybody have it working, any better apps?
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It might help if you told us what TV you have and what options it has. If you TV is DLNA then any of the upnp apps should let you play music to the TV. If your TV has Bluetooth you can send using that. If you have a chromecast you can cast from Google Play Music.

Sorry its a Panasonic and it has dlna but not bluetooth or miracast.
Like I first said suggested but did not perhaps make clear the problem is not so much sharing content, twonky gives me the option to beam videos but not mp3's. Its almost like the default player takes preference over all over software. I wonder if I can cancel any associations so that when I next select an mp3 I am asked which program to open it with and twonky will be in the list.

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Sorry its a Panasonic and it has dlna but not bluetooth or miracast.
Like I first said suggested but did not perhaps make clear the problem is not so much sharing content, twonky gives me the option to beam videos but not mp3's. Its almost like the default player takes preference over all over software. I wonder if I can cancel any associations so that when I next select an mp3 I am asked which program to open it with and twonky will be in the list.
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BubbleUpnp should do what you want. In the Devices section, select your TV as the renderer, and you should be able to stream content from your tablet or any DLNA server on your network to the TV.

HDMI connect to TV - audio cuts out

I really hope I am not the only one with this issue. I recently purchased the official Samsung MHL 2.0 cable and noticed that when streaming YouTube or any other video through the regular web browser the audio cuts out and back in every few minutes. Although it is something I can live with it is rather annoying. Is this a known issue with this tablet?

Doesn't happen with my generic eBay cable, so no.
Get yourself a chromecast and do away with silly wires.

Thanks for the quick reply!
My Wifi kinda sucks so unfortunately Chromecast won't do me much good. I'm going to try a factory reset and if that doesn't work I'll have to return the tablet.

Maybe try a different browser or use semper vidlinks or vget to stream online videos through a media player, highly recommend mxplayer for this. As for you tube I would use the app not the browser.

Yea I think the YouTube app works, but I don't want to deal with ads (also don't want to root while under warranty)
I tried both Dolphin (adblock plugin) and NoChromo which blocks ads by default, audio still cuts out for about a second every so often.

Give vget and mxplayer a go. You can also use web video caster to do the same thing. Between the 2 almost any online video is playable via mxplayer.

So couldn't get vget to open up any videos in mxplayer or vlc, it keeps saying video unsupported, any advice?

spartasr said:
So couldn't get vget to open up any videos in mxplayer or vlc, it keeps saying video unsupported, any advice?
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You need to make sure that you are on the page where the playable video that you want is. Semper vidlinks is good for extracting links from web pages.
Try the page below it contains several different types that should all play with vget or web video caster.
http://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html
Open the page then select share from the menu options in your browser, select vget, you should see the orange download arrow for each video link. Click any then select mxplayer.
For web video caster, do the same but when clicking the video link, select options then open with.

I managed to route the video through VLC but the issue still persists. I ended up returning the Tab only to find that I am having the exact same issue on my second one! At this point I am going to say it may be a compatibility issue between the tablet and my crappy comcast modem/router. Are you by any chance able to recommend a good router to go with this Tablet?
BTW I really appreciate all the help you have provided thus far!

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I managed to route the video through VLC but the issue still persists. I ended up returning the Tab only to find that I am having the exact same issue on my second one! At this point I am going to say it may be a compatibility issue between the tablet and my crappy comcast modem/router. Are you by any chance able to recommend a good router to go with this Tablet?
BTW I really appreciate all the help you have provided thus far!
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Your router? Does that mean you are streaming media to your device and then to your TV via mhl? Have you tried playing a media file direct from your device to the TV?

No just streaming media on the tablet and hooking it up to the TV using the MHL cable. I don't know what else to do, I tested my Galaxy S5 and it plays fine, so I know it's not the cables.
EDIT: Yes videos stored locally on the tablet play fine on the TV, the problem only occurs when streaming anything.

How is the tablet connecting to your router, 2.4ghz or 5ghz?
Doesn't your TV support dlna? Most modern tv's do.

I am not sure about the tablet connection, is that something I should look into?
Our TV is almost 5 years old, we got it right before smart TV's really became a thing

spartasr said:
I am not sure about the tablet connection, is that something I should look into?
Our TV is almost 5 years old, we got it right before smart TV's really became a thing
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Sometimes it helps to switch bands and/or Wi-Fi channels as interference can affect the connection.
Look at your tablet Wi-Fi settings it will tell you which band it is connected to.

Yea I changed channels a while ago and I also changed both DNS' to google's

How are you streaming to your tablet, which app are you using? Does the streamed media play OK on your tablet?

All streamed media be it via the browser, XBMC or VLC has the audio cutting out for about a second roughly every 5 minutes or so.

spartasr said:
All streamed media be it via the browser, XBMC or VLC has the audio cutting out for about a second roughly every 5 minutes or so.
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So it's the same playing on your tablet even without mhl?

Sorry had to do a quick test, videos play fine when not connected to the TV. Could it be an incompatibility issue between the TV and/or Soundbar? I know the cables are good because I tested my phone.

So the issue is tab to TV? Have you tried any lower definition movies?
Also does music play OK on its own or still stutter?