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otterbox Defender questions

so I just bought the Otterbox Defender for my Atrix 4G, and for some reason, on the top left corner, if I squeeze it, I feel a little give, of maybe like half a millimeter, but IDK if that means its defective or what? Also, whats a good way to clean a screen cloth to get the dust off? I love this thing, and my screen is very clean but there is like one or two small specks of dust I cannot stand looking at.

It will eventually get stretched out more and more as you use it. That's one of the biggest flaws of the Otterbox Defender.
My wife has had it for about a month and she's completely given up on it, as it's almost impossible (for her) to use the fingerprint scanner, and because of how she used to tug on the silicon protecting the charging port, the bottom is all stretched out too. YMMV.
Hope this helps...

_Alex_ said:
It will eventually get stretched out more and more as you use it. That's one of the biggest flaws of the Otterbox Defender.
My wife has had it for about a month and she's completely given up on it, as it's almost impossible (for her) to use the fingerprint scanner, and because of how she used to tug on the silicon protecting the charging port, the bottom is all stretched out too. YMMV.
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whats a better case then? Should I just return this and get the candyshell? I'm actually thinking of just taking the otterbox screen protector off and putting a new one on, I cannot stand to even see a speck of dust under it.

DiamondJay20 said:
whats a better case then? Should I just return this and get the candyshell? I'm actually thinking of just taking the otterbox screen protector off and putting a new one on, I cannot stand to even see a speck of dust under it.
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@ OP :
Military Grade protection - cheaper than the Otter Defender...
http://www.goballisticcase.com/collections/motorola-atrix
Case demonstration - http://www.youtube.com/user/BallisticOfficialYT#p/u/24/xf0PD8p-pZI
And it doesnt look half bad...
That or the Seido Active Case (which I use currently, in Sapphire Blue)
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/csk3mtatr-bl.htm
@ _Alex_ : The second link I posted for the Seidio Active case would suit your wife very well. That case does not hinder the fingerprint scanner at all, and its still offers a reasonably good amount of protection. Its also available with a holster. (I do not have the holster so I can't comment on it) I do love the case though. I've dropped my Atrix twice from about 4ft up (im a big guy, 6'4" tall) onto concrete, once landing on its side, the second face down. No damage to my Atrix at all, barely scratched the silicone skin of the case (its a two piece case, silicone case with a skeletal snap-on piece for extra strength and corner protection).

Honestly I have the defender and love it I use the clip everyday and it has a bit of play like yours but I haven't had any streaching and I've had it for a little over a month. I sometimes gwt trouble with the fingerprint reader but if you dont use it than that dosnt matter but I am defanitly trying out that upcoming ballistics case
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I have the defender too. I have the same little problem in the top left corner too! The rubber part hasn't stretched for me, however.
I use the fingerprint scanner, but I don't notice any problems at all when using it.

does anyone know if its easy to cut out their screen protector? Its just that when I use it, I feel like I'm using the Blackberry Storm, like I slightly push more than normal, and it takes away accuracy when typing. Should I keep the Defender or just get the candyshell Speck and a separate screen protector?

I'm on my second silicone part. I emailed them about the port cover corner getting stretched out and they sent me a new one. The new one looks just like the old one already. Took maybe two weeks for it to start popping out again.
DiamondJay20 said:
does anyone know if its easy to cut out their screen protector? Its just that when I use it, I feel like I'm using the Blackberry Storm, like I slightly push more than normal, and it takes away accuracy when typing. Should I keep the Defender or just get the candyshell Speck and a separate screen protector?
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The protector is just held in place with double stick tape. Just take the case off and push it out from the outside.

barry99705 said:
I'm on my second silicone part. I emailed them about the port cover corner getting stretched out and they sent me a new one. The new one looks just like the old one already. Took maybe two weeks for it to start popping out again.?
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I called them about my silicone case stretching and they sent me a new one as well.. still haven't put the new one on yet. Wife called about the "watermark" she is getting on her screen, and found out it is because they put the screen protector on backwards(her screen protector feels more rough than mine).. so they are sending her two stick on screen protectors. May have to try and just pop out her screen protector and flip it over?

bamastang said:
I called them about my silicone case stretching and they sent me a new one as well.. still haven't put the new one on yet. Wife called about the "watermark" she is getting on her screen, and found out it is because they put the screen protector on backwards(her screen protector feels more rough than mine).. so they are sending her two stick on screen protectors. May have to try and just pop out her screen protector and flip it over?
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Go on YouTube and look at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzHnvjc_-30 for the candy shell and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmaW5bPuxFw&feature=channel_video_title for the Defender and you'll see that they're as good as each other...I just exchanged for the Speck and got a screen protector for the exact same price (minus one cent) and couldn't be happier! It feels much better, you can actually feel vibration, looks better, and is just as protected.

otter box commuter > defender.

foreverzero89 said:
otter box commuter > defender.
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Defender is still good, just don't make my mistake by getting the Impact.
The Impact is a $20 Glorified Gel Skin Piece of Crap! (Seriously it's just a gel skin)
If I saved 1 person $20, I'm happy...

jgc121 said:
@ OP :
@ _Alex_ : The second link I posted for the Seidio Active case would suit your wife very well. That case does not hinder the fingerprint scanner at all, and its still offers a reasonably good amount of protection. Its also available with a holster. (I do not have the holster so I can't comment on it) I do love the case though. I've dropped my Atrix twice from about 4ft up (im a big guy, 6'4" tall) onto concrete, once landing on its side, the second face down. No damage to my Atrix at all, barely scratched the silicone skin of the case (its a two piece case, silicone case with a skeletal snap-on piece for extra strength and corner protection).
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She has my Otterbox Commuter now which is similar to the Seidio Active case. I've switched over to nothing while I debate using a TPU or a Incipio Feather, as I have a lapdock now and the Commuter is just too big to fit...

I read somewhere you can remove a plate or something on the laptop dock to make extra room. I might have been seeing things though
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ccrows said:
Defender is still good, just don't make my mistake by getting the Impact.
The Impact is a $20 Glorified Gel Skin Piece of Crap! (Seriously it's just a gel skin)
If I saved 1 person $20, I'm happy...
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Right it doesn't even fit right fills loose ...I love the defender
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Ugh my defenders head phone door came off the phone recently just a confirmation of this problem sadly i would have thought it would have happened to the usb flap first being that i dont use headphones that often. I dont know if i should try to get them to send be a new silicon part out now that I got a body glove case today Seems to be a good alternative to this the grip on the case is nice and theres an option to have aclip on the back for a belt clip that comes with it Witch would be good if you used the Defender holster but you can replace the clip with circle shaped peace that finishes the case only thing that might be bad is there is no protection for the ports. I will say that it being all in one layer unlike the plastic and silicon on the defender means that there is no creekiness that i some time felt on my defender. it setill clips together on the front and back similar to the defender plastic layer though without a built in screen protector.

if anyone is looking for one. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154013

A new case for my Vibrant

Hi all, I am looking for a new case for my Vibrant. I currently have the "Officially the best Case.." but unfortunatelly it is falling apart after a good 1+ year run. Now I am looking to replace it with the same one or with something better (have not been keeping up)
Looking at the "Officially the best case.." I do not see any current links for it. And I have to say that I am limited to purchasing a case from ebay and worldwide shipping. Can you guys recommend something?

I would recommend any type of TPU case. I have one, and it has lasted me 1+ years. Absorbs shocks well and is relatively thin. There are a bunch on eBay.

I am looking at some black TPU cases, but on the poor images they put, I cannot see if there are buttons, cut out buttons on the actual case.. For example this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-New-T...ccessories&hash=item20bdf50ab6#ht_2636wt_1392
I do not see power and volume buttons on the side..

From what I know, I doubt that any will have cut out buttons. But you could make the holes yourself.

Ya, ok, not cut out buttons, but at least take the shape of the buttons...so you can distinguish them where hey are by touching the phone..

The cases will have protruding buttons for the places where the buttons are located. I hope you get a good case.

You should get the otterbox. I've had mine since it came out and it still looks like new. Dropped it a couple of times and you'd never know to look at it. I'm sure that you can find it on ebay.

I just got the Trident Aegis case. It looks nice and provides good protection (silicone + hard plastic). The buttons are also easier to press than before.
However, the thing is a dust magnet (what kind of silicone isn't?), so I'd recommend keeping it out of dirty pockets as much as possible. It's also not cheap ($25 on Amazon), but is worth it IMO.
I also bought a Mercury jelly case off eBay today, so that's a cheaper option.

3D0
The 3D0 case seems to be pretty good. I just wish it covered the entire back like the model for the SGS II does.

casemate hard case and screen protector keep my phone mint, and very thin. Was $35 and I have a picture from my wedding on the back that i constantly get comments about. Had it a year and hardly shows scratches.

I'm returning my Trident Aegis. The plastic started chipping off and I wasn't really a fan of the dust it attracted.
I'm using the Seidio innocase now. Seems kind of flimsy, but is a lot lighter and thinner than the Aegis.

Get a TPU. It protects from scratches and dropping quite well, I'm reluctant to buy any other kind of case. I haven't seen any TPU cases with the buttons cut out. They're one piece units that are hard to rip, tear and really damage in any way. And all the functions of the phone are still easily accessible. The buttons may feel a little hard to press at firsts, but you get used to it. I bought one like this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/TPU-Silicon...576411?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3371ccc19b

Trident Cyclops here. Available on ebay starting at $17.50 shipped and it is a tank. I did remove the built in screen protector as it annoyed the crap out of me. Gorilla glass is awesome and as far as I am concerned I do not need a screen protector.
My only gripe is getting it into and out of my pockets the silicone does tend to grab the cloth.

I have the Otterbox and would highly recommend it. It has good shock protection with an outer layer to prevent scratching. The silicone layer does attract lint but good luck finding one that won't!

As I understand it, the silicone cases are more environmentally friendly than the TPU. I've been using silicone, rotating through 6 colors (liturgical) seasonally, and have dropped my phone more times than I can count. It just bounces. Not a scratch to be seen, and given the softness of the silicone, it does a better job than most non-water resistant cases at keeping things dry. And, like Martha Stewart's silpats and silicone lubricant, nothing, but nothing sticks to it. Yes, it's a bit rubbery, but I can put it in the back pocket of some jeans I probably should finally put in the skinny-pants bin as easily as without the case. That's pure silicone, which isn't TPU. TPU is pretty plastic-y, rather than rubbery, usually, but it depends on what other, er, crap you put in it. I think the folks selling it don't care what kind of plasticized, probably-a-little-toxic material their selling, they just want to move them.
What I like most about it, though, is that it stays on when I want it to, but I can pop it off in .75 sec. OK, then there's the price...

Thansks for the info. I need back case asap. This thread helped.

i hope im not too late into recommendations but a silicon case should be the best choice, the vibrant is an extremely tough phone and hard cases would be almost a waste( plus the overall thickness will increase greatly)...

My case is a hard case and is very thin, the silicone case is good unless you carry your phone in your pocket. Then you get to experience lint and your pocket turning inside out whenever you need your phone . I recommend casemate hard cases, you can customize them.
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Soft vs Hard Cases

So I was wondering, would I be protecting my One X better with a hard case, or a soft case?
I am looking to order my accessories ahead of the phones delivery, but have never had a case on a phone before so have no prior experience. The clear HTC hard shell looks nice, but would I be better with a soft one?
Also, is there a general consensus on the best company to buy cases from?

I can understand why people want want to protect their shiney new X with a hard case but it just adds bulk to an already large device and wouldnt want to spoil its good looks would you?
I've gone for the official slip case and insurance, if I drop it I lose it

silent_killa said:
I can understand why people want want to protect their shiney new X with a hard case but it just adds bulk to an already large device and wouldnt want to spoil its good looks would you?
I've gone for the official slip case and insurance, if I drop it I lose it
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Hmm actually, a slip case might do.. my concern isn't really about when it is in my hands so much, just from dropping my bag, or putting my feet up on a train where it could slip out a pocket. I have only ever dropped my Milestone while walking along with it without actually using it at the time.
Are you going with a screen protector?

Nah not going to bother with one of those either.
If you're ordering from the UK then this is the cheapest I found for the official slip case. Most I found are around £15 but this is £9.95 with free postage. Arrived 2 days after ordering as well.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170793503094?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
This case also has micro-fibers to help clean the screen, haven't managed to test it yet though..... Amazon.co.uk reports my X should be with me tomorrow

DomCowell said:
Hmm actually, a slip case might do.. my concern isn't really about when it is in my hands so much, just from dropping my bag, or putting my feet up on a train where it could slip out a pocket. I have only ever dropped my Milestone while walking along with it without actually using it at the time.
Are you going with a screen protector?
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A slip case will help protect it in a bag or pocket from scratches caused by other stuff, like keys or whatever else you may have in there. Falling out of pockets will most likely occur without the slip case - it will slip out of that as well, and then not be protected. Slipping out of hands it will also not be protected (although I did read you said you weren't worried about that, this is what happens if it does.)
I have a blackberry from work in a pouch, don't care if it scratches but the pouch keeps it away from too much harm. I wouldn't want my brand new One X to dent or scratch just yet, it's too shiny and new for that, and that screen is sooo wonderful. I most definately will be using a case and a screen protector - you can always remove those when not needed. I never used a screen protector on my HD2, and it only ever got one tiny scratch on the glass in two years of intensive use (even dropped it a couple of times). It got that scratch however within a few weeks of my getting that phone, and bugged me since, even though it was hardly visible.

Cant stand any hard/soft cases. Slip cases all the way for me and you protect the whole phone as well
Sensationaly sent from my Sensation.

Sindroid said:
Cant stand any hard/soft cases. Slip cases all the way for me and you protect the whole phone as well
Sensationaly sent from my Sensation.
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But only when it is not being used!
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Appelsap said:
A slip case will help protect it in a bag or pocket from scratches caused by other stuff, like keys or whatever else you may have in there. Falling out of pockets will most likely occur without the slip case - it will slip out of that as well, and then not be protected. Slipping out of hands it will also not be protected (although I did read you said you weren't worried about that, this is what happens if it does.)
I have a blackberry from work in a pouch, don't care if it scratches but the pouch keeps it away from too much harm. I wouldn't want my brand new One X to dent or scratch just yet, it's too shiny and new for that, and that screen is sooo wonderful. I most definately will be using a case and a screen protector - you can always remove those when not needed. I never used a screen protector on my HD2, and it only ever got one tiny scratch on the glass in two years of intensive use (even dropped it a couple of times). It got that scratch however within a few weeks of my getting that phone, and bugged me since, even though it was hardly visible.
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Why would you need a screen protector on a device that has Gorilla 2 glass? Seems kinda pointless if you look at the endurance tests they put it through online. Unless you plan on taking a screw driver or chisel to the screen , I think you will be just fine.

Defender VS commuter

Hi,
Does anybody knows what is the bulk/size difference between the 2 cases?
same with trident aegis.
I bought my bro the commuter, but the store didnt have the defender to feel.
I think that the commuter is slick and nice, and hope the the defender is doing so as well.
Thanks!

BADtoBONE said:
Hi,
Does anybody knows what is the bulk/size difference between the 2 cases?
same with trident aegis.
I bought my bro the commuter, but the store didnt have the defender to feel.
I think that the commuter is slick and nice, and hope the the defender is doing so as well.
Thanks!
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I have the defender case and I love it. It does add bulk to the phone. It actually makes the phone look huge, but I love it. It feels save and secure. I feel like if I were to drop my phone 5 feet down onto concrete, my phone would be fine. If you like the slick feel of the commuter, then I suggest you stay with that case. :good:

I have the commuter and I have to say that I love it and after dropping my phone from shoulder height which is prob around 5 ft high I can honestly say that this case does a great job protecting the phone.
A second thought is that there are cases like the commuter series that have a stand clip. Which is great if your going to use your phone as a media device. my sister just got the casemate pop which looks awesome.
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ergibson83 said:
I have the defender case and I love it. It does add bulk to the phone. It actually makes the phone look huge, but I love it. It feels save and secure. I feel like if I were to drop my phone 5 feet down onto concrete, my phone would be fine. If you like the slick feel of the commuter, then I suggest you stay with that case. :good:
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I use a generic very bulky case right now.
I dont care about thickness, and i ment slickness - i like the feel of the material in the commuter.
anyway, what is the size difference between them?

The size difference is not much. I have both cases. I am no longer using the Commuter case because the back is hard plastic and very slippery. The button plastic is very hard. I use the Defender case now because the silicone cover give me a better gripe and buttons are easy to press.
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Thanks, thats basically the answer i was looking for.
what is you opinion regarding the plastic screen protector compared to a sticker?

It's not bad, it will probably protect it better but isn't optically as good as a high end shield.
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contradude said:
It's not bad, it will probably protect it better but isn't optically as good as a high end shield.
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such as?

zagg shields are the typical goto screen protector.... There are cheaper ones, but you typically get what you pay for.

Commuter: 5.61 in x 3.10 in x 0.56 in / 142.5 mm x 78.84 mm x 14.28 mm
Defender: 5.88 in x 3.47 in x 1.41 in / 148.84 mm x 88.14 mm x 35.81 mm

Hey badtobone. I'll give you my experiences with the cases i've bought and the zagg shield cover i purchased. At first i had a tpu case with the zagg shield and the corners started coming up where the tpu case would rub on it. Scratch that idea. Then i bought the casemate phantom. The screen protector for the case pops on the front of the phone and then you cram the phone inside the outer shell of the case. Snapped the screen protector part putting the phone in the case one day and to boot the case is huge compared to the defender series but it was on backorder of course and i couldn't wait. So scratch that idea. I've always been an otterbox fan so i was finally able to order the defender for it. Awesome to a point. The case is somewhat smaller than the phantom which is awesome and great protection but i just don't like the screen protector. I've always liked the commuter cases screen protector because it was crystal clear on my other galaxy s phones and you can appreciate the screen more. If otterbox still offers the seperate screen protector for the commuter i'll probably use that along with the defender for the ultimate case. Just my 2 cents. Hope i could help.
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I've never had an otterbox before a few days ago, but went with the defender model.
For previous Androids i've gone with the trident cases, and like them. The ones i've had are not comparable to the defender version of the otterbox, but i'll say now that any non-slide phone in the future for me will take into consideration defender case availability as part of the purchase decision.
It just feels safe now, the device.
Some things that could be better - the trident cases I've used have covers for speaker/mic with a filter behind to keep the dust out. This is decidedly lacking on the otterbox.
The holster is awesome, though. It's like the final stage of usefulness/protection. It makes a hard plastic shield over the screen and is an extra structural reinforcement of the protection level to the device.
Already i've turned it around in the holster, screen out, and clipped it to my visor in my car. Improv GPS mount.
In the same way you can just put something in the clip for back support and have a desk/tabletop mount for the device anywhere. Sitting in a hotel room watching a movie off the nightstand is much easier with this case.
My first impression of the clip on the holster was to cut it off and make a smooth outer shell for pocket carry. I may very well buy another case to try this out. The clip being on the case has literally proven it's case not to be cut off by how immediately useful it's been.
Another drawback, my only other complaint, the built-in screen protector.
Here again is another reason to buy a second case. Beyond trying it out without the belt clip, is trying it out without the screen protector.
I've seen a lot of threads where people mention cutting the on-board screen protector out of the defender with an xacto knife or something. Owning one, I now see why. I sit here debating the ramifications of the overall case structure if I do cut it out, because I would very much like to.
The silicon shell should still hold the case together, as well as the clips underneath that hold the case together, but I do worry about separation of the front of the case to the sides without the screen protector to hold them together. Especially given the holster clip will encourage that separation through use.
When the phone came in at the verizon store, I made sure that the first thing done to the device was to put a screen protector on it. Few days later I got the otterbox. It's whole life after unboxing, it's had a screen protector adhered to it's face. That part is important, as the otterbox screen protector just sits on the face, not adhered to it. This, to me, is an unacceptable level of compromise in protection of the device.
Without being adhered, the screen is subject to dust and oils getting between the screen protector and the screen itself. Once that happens, you are looking at the overlaid 'protector' acting like a piece of sandpaper with the dirt under it every time you touch it.
All in all, I can't see myself using anything but a defender to protect the SGSIII - a few slight modifications to the case and I will be completely satisfied.
I never played with a commuter model, but here are some thoughts on the defender.

Blue6IX said:
Another drawback, my only other complaint, the built-in screen protector.
Here again is another reason to buy a second case. Beyond trying it out without the belt clip, is trying it out without the screen protector.
I've seen a lot of threads where people mention cutting the on-board screen protector out of the defender with an xacto knife or something. Owning one, I now see why. I sit here debating the ramifications of the overall case structure if I do cut it out, because I would very much like to.
When the phone came in at the verizon store, I made sure that the first thing done to the device was to put a screen protector on it. Few days later I got the otterbox. It's whole life after unboxing, it's had a screen protector adhered to it's face. That part is important, as the otterbox screen protector just sits on the face, not adhered to it. This, to me, is an unacceptable level of compromise in protection of the device.
Without being adhered, the screen is subject to dust and oils getting between the screen protector and the screen itself. Once that happens, you are looking at the overlaid 'protector' acting like a piece of sandpaper with the dirt under it every time you touch it.
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You don't need an xacto knife to remove the built-in screen protector. The screen is adhered to the case by a strip of removable glue. Just push the screen protector in with a little force and it pops right off. You can then remove the glue around the edges by simply pulling the one long strip up around the edge.
The built-in screen protector does suck. It makes the screen very pixalated and dust does get trapped under the screen protector.
Try this out... Remove the built-in screen protector and buy a best skin ever wet protector. Apply that wet protector, let it dry completely, now place you defender case (with built-in protector removed) on the phone. This is the setup I have and it is absolutely perfect. I promise you'll love this setup. I'm extremely anal about my screen protector and case combinations for my phones and I've tried 5 different combinations before going with the BSE/defender combination. Trust me, it doesn't get better than this combination. My screen quality is perfect and my phone is secure and safe.
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Thanks to all the repliers!
so buying the case knowing that youre gonna take of the screen might be a good idea?
anl links or clips from people who did it?
anything in youtube?

BADtoBONE said:
Thanks to all the repliers!
so buying the case knowing that youre gonna take of the screen might be a good idea?
anl links or clips from people who did it?
anything in youtube?
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You don't need any videos or anything. All you're gonna need to do is pop the screen protector off by pushing it away from the case. It's actually really simple and doesn't require much effort at all. U won't break the case doing it. Just know that once u remove the screen protector, you can't reapply it. So u may want to see what the screen clarity looks like before removing the built in screen protector. You may think the screen quality is ok with it.
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had a chance to check out both the other day.
imo there's no real comparison between the two..and the commuter is almost useless to choose over the defender
its harder to take the commuter on and off imo...
it doesn't feel as nice as the defender..and its slippery..
the buttons are hard to press.... no where near impossible or anything like anyone really says when they complain but it's definitely not convenient and its fairly annoying...I actually had the phone try to slip out of my hand a few times while squeezing the phone to press the buttons.
and....the defender for the SG3 isn't as big as you'd think it is (especially in comparison to the commuter)
best part....the silicone otterbox uses on there defender has always been my main complaint...but they've used some stiffer stuff, doesn't flop off at all (or really stretch like at all) and it doesn't feel like it will collect a ton of lint or snag too much coming out of a pocket. It's just the right amount of grip

Can anyone post pic of the 'improved' defender (without plastic screen)?

I am loving my commuter. Buttons are fine for me even the power being hard to press Is not a deal breaker. My main gripe is screen protectors seem to be an issue if they are full like the curved crystal. Lesson learned, I am going to try the one that came with the case today.
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alexyaz said:
I have the commuter and I have to say that I love it and after dropping my phone from shoulder height which is prob around 5 ft high I can honestly say that this case does a great job protecting the phone.
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Definitely. I was thinking of getting a thinner case, but I drop my phone often enough that Commuter is worth it. I have the green one and I imagine it can get quite dirty in the future.
Buttons are definitely hard to press, but I can get used to it I guess. Definitely worth it for the protection alone.

BADtoBONE said:
Can anyone post pic of the 'improved' defender (without plastic screen)?
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It looks exactly like the defender.. Just without the plastic screen protector. Think of it as a window with no glass. The window will still look the same, it just has no glass. U will be using a wet screen protector instead of the builtin screen protector.
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[Q] otterbox defender VS ballistic maxx

hi guys
i have been comparing these two products for a quite some time and i cannot give my final decision to which product should i buy. i am looking for a case that has a front face cover. and i found the ballistic maxx and otterbox defender. but what makes me think twice between these product is the comes with screen protector. these protector is quite think and most likely it will ruin the colors of my S3's screen. i have seen it in some product reviews posted by youtube users. the screen becomes glary. and the second thing that makes me think twice is, if i remove the screen protector, will my S3 shake around inside the case if i dont use the screen protector?
i tried contacting the customer support of otterbox they said they cannot answer my concern. and for ballistic they told me i can still use the case even if i dont use the screen protector, but i still do not understand what they really meant. and they did not gave me a straight answer to my question on what will really happen if i did not use their product's screen protector.
now i would like to ask your personal opinion about these two products, which is better? and if you guys did not use the comes with screen protector will your S3 shake around inside the case? and lastly i am just looking for a case that has a front cover. i dont really like the flip cover cases.
thanks

From what I read about the defender taking out the screen protector does not affect the snugg-ness of the phone and case.
I have the trident kraken that came with a removable screen protector, that I decided but to use.
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I know how you feel, i looked at both those cases and went with the Trident Kraken. Provides the same level of protection and the kickstand is a bonus. Second choice would be the otterbox.
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I personally hated the otter box, sold it as soon as I got the chance. I kept the maxx and it's the case I go for when I need a holster.

I took the screen protector off of my defender with no fit issues. I stopped using it because it squeeks so much. When you hold the phone. This may be due to extra flexing from the removed screen protector as it is rigid and glued in.

The otterbox is an awesome case, the only thing I hate is that the outer silicone layer always stretches out. The defender for my GS3 streched out after 2 months...
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ricktat said:
I took the screen protector off of my defender with no fit issues. I stopped using it because it squeeks so much. When you hold the phone. This may be due to extra flexing from the removed screen protector as it is rigid and glued in.
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I think it's just the case in general. My screen protector is still in tact and it squeaks like no other.
I'm tempted to get a new case, but can't decide. I've narrowed it down to the SG MAXX, Commuter, Kraken, PX260, and the Dualtek.

owlchemist said:
I think it's just the case in general. My screen protector is still in tact and it squeaks like no other.
I'm tempted to get a new case, but can't decide. I've narrowed it down to the SG MAXX, Commuter, Kraken, PX260, and the Dualtek.
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I got the dualtek case yesterday, it's a really nice case. I just wish there was a compatible holster for it.
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I have both cases mentioned in OP. The included screen covers are garbage. Make the screen look like crap plus particles such as sand, dirt (I am in construction field) and so on can get behind protector and scratch screen.
Standard zagg and otterbox working well for me. Zagg HD seemed to thin and marked up easy om my pocket. Otter box laps over the edge of the zagg, which so far has kept the edge from peeling on me which is a common problem for me and my use.
Ballastic has great rubber corners for drop protection but the otter box is easier to slip in and out of pocket and my preferred case.
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naturecannon said:
I have both cases mentioned in OP. The included screen covers are garbage. Make the screen look like crap plus particles such as sand, dirt (I am in construction field) and so on can get behind protector and scratch screen.
Standard zagg and otterbox working well for me. Zagg HD seemed to thin and marked up easy om my pocket. Otter box laps over the edge of the zagg, which so far has kept the edge from peeling on me which is a common problem for me and my use.
Ballastic has great rubber corners for drop protection but the otter box is easier to slip in and out of pocket and my preferred case.
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I also have both cases described in OP and have to agree to a point, the screen protectors make the screen look terrible. I went with the Ballistic for a couple reasons. 1. The Ballistic seems to slide in and out of my pocket easier (probably because it has more smooth surface than the Defender). 2. The belt clip seems more comfortable to me. The Defender belt clip seemed to sit higher on me which would gouge my hip. Not cool. 3. I got the Defender used when I bought my phone and the rubber on it seems a little loose. I don't think this will happen with the Ballistic mainly because my wife has one on her Note and it's help up extremly well. 3. I got my Ballistic Maxx on ebay for $30 in the color I wanted and I thought that was a good price. Now I need to ditch this screen protector and get a nice one.

I too have both cases. I did/don't use any of the screen protectors that came with it. As for OP, it really depends what you're trying to get out of it. What's your average day like? do you work in an office? go to school? work in construction? I am a process engineer and i'm in and out of food plants and i pull my phone out to snap pictures at least 4 times a day on a daily basis for an hour or so. With that being said I NEED the protection because I have dropped it a few times. I'm currently using the Ballastic without the clip, i just hold it in my pocket. The otterbox is a bit bulkier for me and it slips easy (from hand and in and out of pocket). The ballistic on the other hand, doesn't. It gives you good grip, and isn't a pain for me to pull out of my pockets (i wear dickies for work and rvca romero ii jeans when i'm out and about or jordan basketball shorts when i feel like bumming it). I like the grip because it doesn't slip out of my pockets easily when i wear basketball shorts as the ottorbox did. HOWEVER, be warned that it does pull lint easily. It's not alot where you'll get a hairball when you pull it out of your pockets but it is there. Overall, I'm sticking with the ballastic because it offers great drop protection (as does the OB), but with the corners I personally feel it's more secure and it's not as bulky as people say it is. I'll post up pictures when i get the chance.