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XDA community +1

Hello XDA community,
I've been looking around this site for a while now, mostly getting cool apps for my HTC Touch Pro2. And this is maybe my 3rd actual post on these forums. But I just wanted to taka a moment to point out the quality of this community.
There seem to be apps and fixed for pretty much eveything, making my phone so much better. But, more important then that, people seem to be very willing to help eachother out. In a non-selfish way. A lot of devs have the option to donate to them, but they never require people to pay for their brilliant work. Users who have issues with their phone often get helped out in a matter of hours.
Having said the above, I'm surprised a rather large community still has these qualities. Therefor I dedicate this thread to XDA
So yea, that's about it

Yeah!
This is a great community
Read, Search, Respect and Enjoy!

Thanks, it is a great community! Have Fun & Happy Flashing!

toasteda said:
Hello XDA community,
I've been looking around this site for a while now, mostly getting cool apps for my HTC Touch Pro2. And this is maybe my 3rd actual post on these forums. But I just wanted to taka a moment to point out the quality of this community.
There seem to be apps and fixed for pretty much eveything, making my phone so much better. But, more important then that, people seem to be very willing to help eachother out. In a non-selfish way. A lot of devs have the option to donate to them, but they never require people to pay for their brilliant work. Users who have issues with their phone often get helped out in a matter of hours.
Having said the above, I'm surprised a rather large community still has these qualities. Therefor I dedicate this thread to XDA
So yea, that's about it
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How great your info is!But Can you give some more sample questions and answers.I really want to get more info about this topicIt really useful for me. Thanks.

dgfhg said:
How great your info is!But Can you give some more sample questions and answers.I really want to get more info about this topicIt really useful for me. Thanks.
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I'm sorry, I did not realize that creating a topic which is simply complementing the entire community was a crime (sarcasm)
EDIT: I see you're banned now actually, explains the silly post you made...

XDA School/Message to staff and Students

Remember how in High School or College you would have to DO YOUR RESEARCH to find your information before turning it in to your teacher or professor?...So far in the past 12 months this XDA School Research Skill and Overall GPA has dropped. In this SGSII class of the school, we are bringing our GPA up, and now we are on a level thats "considered passing". I was a new student in this class about 2 weeks ago and everyone made me feel like I was at home, but the rest of the school im not to sure about. XDA school was the one everyone went to about everything Android. Now since the teachers and students are slowly turning in degrees, we are loosing a lot of our students and teachers to other schools. We cannot let this happen because this is where it all started. We have to start gaining the quality of our school back, our prestige is dropping.
So lets get started...
Instead of teachers having to spend extra time assisting students, students should learn to RESEARCH and Experiment on their own time. Teachers only volunteer at this school. No paychecks, pensions, workman's compensation, just breaks and retiremen. Teachers should help students more and explain things more in a detailed fashion. XDA School is changing so we have to change with it. Dont fight it, go with the flow and make it work for everyone. There has to be a line to draw in the middle, where students can help one another, troubleshoot, and have fun with the teachers. Im a teacher myself and comming up with lesson plans that will hold everyone in the class over until I write a new one is not easy. Sleep is lost, donations are good, but overall not good enough to deal with the stress in our personal lives because we all go through it. Competition is always present but thats no excuse for teachers to critique other teachers. We may not be together in reality but we are a community, so lets act like it.
:-D
_Thursday

good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest

jessejames111981 said:
good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them...
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to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section

jessejames111981 said:
good luck. Popularity of this site attracts the people in school who just want to get by and have all the answers given to them. I can't see this thread going in the right direction. These threads just make things worse to be honest
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I just thought it more people were aware of the issues we would be able to fix them together. Ill just have the principle close the class down if students and or teachers start to bring it down.
_Thursday

AllGamer said:
to be specific
... on a silver platter and spoon fed
it's not just this section, it's all over XDA, all the popular devices are like that, even the new GN section
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Thats such a shame, i have been around since android rooting started and being here on XDA was considered a privilege
_Thursday

I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
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xsteven77x said:
I miss people being go getters and trying to learn stuff themselves. I think everyone is willing to help a noob but only if they are willing to help themselves. That's what we have a lack of, people trying to help themselves.
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The worse part about it is, the quality of the issues people report in threads. Most of the time they are "non issue issues" Meaning its not a bug in the ROM just a problem that they are having.
They will post their problem and hope for someone to get a fix for them and get upset when people flame them. The people who can fix the problem have no right to flame either. Fighting fire with fire has become way to common here. The people dont say things like "I looked online in such and such place but i dont understand what its telling me, or this method is outdated any updates on it", nothing like that, that shows they were putting fourth an effort in the first place. It was such a joy for me to research and learn because it led me to create ROMs and themes. I felt a lot better when I figured out how to fix my own problems and it made me a better Rooted android user.

I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.

Agreed..
DARKSIDE...join us we have nice treats T989

jessejames111981 said:
I think te problem is "free stuff" attracts those type of people. Google has done a great thing with the open source stuff. I wish there was a system in place that encouraged organized companies to produce ROMs, granite that means those roms would be pay only and the current system doesn't work with it. You can choose to stick with the stock touchwiz rom OR you could pay to run aosp made by company X or you could download a free rom made by thursday. How much has this community donated to various devs in "hopes" they dev something good?
Android has blown up recently and people like to customize their phone. Old days of only tech geeks using roms are gone. People need answers fed to them. If they paid money for a rom they should be entitled to those answers given to them.
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Yea brother, i mean ill say yea again to that one. If people actually paid for me to deliver week in and week out id quit my day job seriously to work right here from home.

if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you

I was here from the start with the G1, granted out was a few months after the release, buy nonetheless I did my own research asked questions when I was TRULY stuck and solved my own problems by searching the threads/forums. People come in here (XDA) and "flame" one another for asking a question and folks that come in here creating threads and posts REPEATEDLY about the same topic. It honestly needs to be stopped and monitored more closely because all it does is clutter threads and makes it difficult for those trying to do it on their own.
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I haven't been here as long as most but since I joined when I purchased my evo it went from thank you to gimme gimme. Not to mention the flame fests,including entire threads filled with pics about the ensuing flame fest. Infractions should start being issued a lot more frequently and even to the point of issuing them to the members who post nothing questions over and over again and get in a tiff when they don't get an answer for "why is my phone crashing after I didn't wipe from cm7 to sense"anyways just wish it would go back to respect and appreciation.
via my bleached S2

as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them

jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
_Thursday

hunterjay7 said:
as ridiculous as it seems, Maybe their should be an entire thread dedicated to a Roms "Issues" - I know creating another thread means another one to view, but jesus think about how many times a market error question could be answered by the title of a thread there and the amount of pages it would save on any given rom. I know this is literally bending to the will of noobs who won't research, but if you can't teach them, at least try to confine them
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I see what your saying but that defeats the purpose, if i create a market error thread, then theyll ask for just about everything, the flood gates would open right up. If people would stop being lazy then everything would be ok.
_Thursday

jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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Lol
SGSII T989~ juggernaut v4.1~synergy v0.10

jessejames111981 said:
if you want money just have sammy start a thread for you
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lmfao 10char

_Thursday said:
???...I dont follow you.
I never ask people to donate. Hes doing a bounty to get Eugene373 here.
_Thursday
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Its an inside joke (a good one too) based on the amount of bounty threads he does and how quick he is to start them.

Reading this thread bummed me out. I'm somewhat new to all of this, and in the last couple of months have learned an INSANE amount about the android OS and how to make it "mine". I would have never been able to do so without the much appreciated help of all the knowledgeable people here on XDA. Yes, I agree, there are a crazy amount of duplicate posts, and pricks, and mindless idiots who for some reason have no issue posting a bash on a hard working dev for no apparent reason (f#& k those morons). Here is my question. What do you think of someone like me, who asks questions when he is stuck, and probably will continue to do so whenever he is hopelessly stuck, but always shows appreciation for valuable help received? There seem to be plenty of people here who enjoy helping noobs like me. I've helped a few, and it felt pretty good.
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Donations to developers

Let's get this thread going by listing donations we've made and to which developers. No need to post amounts as no matter how large or small your donation is, I'm sure the awesome devs will still appreciate it. The OP will be updated to list member names please be honest, we don't want a thread with fake donations. The devs for this phone deserve better than that! Thanks community.

Ah the vanity....
Well intended, I know, but...
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I think many would like to keep this private and see this as bragging. To me, it becomes about ego and false pride if you have to tell others about your charity.
But to each his own I guess.
I've given support to many in many devs in many different device forums, over the years because I appreciate the skill, time and work they put into it. Not large sums by any means but at least something when I can/I]. But I believe most devs do it for the fun of learning and tinkering. And then just getting some well deserved thanks is a huge thing (or is/was in my case) I know the donations are certainly appreciated and help give some motivation and cover expenses but some people just can't give all the time.
That's just my two cents - from an older guy who's been a tinkering with systems since when we actually had to write code on a punch card machine.

dang
my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...

I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)

Omar04 said:
I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)
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Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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wp7chris said:
my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...
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If a dev is in it for the Donations, Then why would you want there work any way. You do not get the best work from people that do it for money. Oh and just to let you know they are not getting very much and that is not the reason we dev. We dev because it is fun.

Though I've seen a lot of people post their confirmation of donation in an open thread, I choose to donate privately when I am able to give at all. Though I'm not able to give as much as I would like for the amazing work we are given, I hope my fawning adoration makes up for it.
Stupid thanks limit

Word to the wise. Never donate to any "developer" asking for donations before any rom/kernel is released. Ive kept my eye on the whole swamp goblin donation scam. That seems to happen alot around different sites. I would think a user who pulls a scam like that would be banned? Its gotta be against xda rules?
Edit: Just checked Swamp Goblins Profile, He hasnt posted anything anywhere sense June 21, 2012.
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wp7chris said:
Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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The Dev performed the disappearing act...

Swamp Goblin doesn't believe he actually asked for donations, I think it's a perception issue.
I understand Devs have real lives and don't get paid for what they do (aside from occasional donations) therefore they are beholden to no one for ETAs, however when you request help to get a specific phone and promise a product for it then you do have an obligation to at least stay present in the situation. That doesn't mean you have to have it complete but you do need to be active in letting people know what's going on.
Also I agree with a post made in another thread regarding this, if you know you are too busy to put full effort towards a project on which you asked for a donated phone, then you shouldn't have ever started the process until such time when you were unencumbered by so much other stuff. I have to say that people were incredibly tolerant with his lack of output for quite some time and should be acknowledged for that, it has only been recently that people have grown wary of his actual intentions and started to question his motives directly.
My only real issue with the guy (other than his lengthy absences from posting any sort of information) is that he once commented that he was struggling with the sense build so he was going to spend time working on another ROM for another phone and then return to the E4GT. I don't recall exactly where it was and it may have even been edited by now but at the time I felt something was off.
Initially many of us were excited at the prospect of sense and may have allowed that excitement to color our normal judgement, I was in on the initial push to help him find a phone but I was looking at ebay and places where he might pick one up with his own money. Nevertheless, bygones I suppose.
Now, with all that said, I would hope these few instances of possible scams don't discourage people from donating. My only advice would be to pay attention to the Developer's work, reputation, support for existing products and interaction here on the forums. When we donate we do so in good faith and I'm happy to say that with the vast majority of the Devs here, we are well paid in return.

Sorry guys, but this thread is not a good idea at all. Just got off the phone with Cleo (yea, I'm that old) and she says she sees alot of name calling, pointing fingers, and bickering in this threads future. So I have to go with what she says.
---Jay--- From the Nexus

[TIPS] The Most Helpful GNex Devs

As a tip to all new XDA members, and as a way of saying thanks, I'd like to point out some of the most helpful and knowledgeable GNex Senior Members.
There are about a dozen or so who come to mind, but the two who really stand out (IMO) are efrant and Jubakuba. If you're brand new and trying to get up to speed on the gnex, I suggest you do searches on their names and read their excellent tutorials and messages. These two go out of their way to help new users without flaming them, and have incredible patience.
Also remember to hit the thanks button and/or the donate button on the messages that help you the most. It's easy to forget (I've done it, too) but it only takes a second and it helps keep them motivated to continue.
If anyone else wants to mention someone they think deserves some praise, by all means do so. There are several others on the tip of my tongue, but I don't want to forget anyone, so I'll leave it to others.
So read, read, read what they've taken the time and effort to write. It's the fastest way to learn what you need to know about the Galaxy Nexus, and it will answer 90% of the questions people come here to ask. And you won't get flamed nearly as much.

I deserve props! I am the Team BAMF mascot, after all.
/me runs away before anyone thinks he is serious.
On a serious note: I approve of the two names you mentioned.

Thanks for the recognition strumcat -- it's much appreciated!
Although I wouldn't even come close to calling myself a dev (save that for the likes of adrynalyne ) -- I'm just a little guy who has stood on the shoulders of giants.

adrynalyne said:
I deserve props! I am the Team BAMF mascot, after all.
/me runs away before anyone thinks he is serious.
On a serious note: I approve of the two names you mentioned.
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Hee, hee, yes I've seen and appreciate you helping people, too. Only reason I didn't mention you, martonikaj, oldblue###, etc. is because I knew I'd forget to thank the many others who also deserve it. Well, that and general laziness.

efrant said:
Thanks for the recognition strumcat -- it's much appreciated!
Although I wouldn't even come close to calling myself a dev (save that for the likes of adrynalyne ) -- I'm just a little guy who has stood on the shoulders of giants.
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Well, all I know is I learned a lot from your tutorials and Jubakuba's tutorial, and it sure beats wading through an ocean of information and misinformation to be found elsewhere. Unlike magazine articles thrown together to meet a deadline, etc., they're accurate, complete, and kept up-to-date. Real windfall of info for the uninitiated. So I thought I'd point others in the right direction. Besides, it didn't hurt and didn't cost me anything, so why not?
Man, I watched you answer a whole string of messages from some guy the other day that would have driven anyone else bonkers, and carry it all the way to a successful resolution. Never once did I sense a desire on your part to throttle anyone or break something. Wish I had half your patience.

strumcat said:
Hee, hee, yes I've seen and appreciate you helping people, too. Only reason I didn't mention you, martonikaj, oldblue###, etc. is because I knew I'd forget to thank the many others who also deserve it. Well, that and general laziness.
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LOL, its ok, I was joking.

Adryanlyne, Efrant, jubakuba, simms22, morfic, molesarecoming, martonikaj, CtDDroid, sonicxml, etc...
To be honest, 99% of the members here, devs or not , are pretty clued up and helpful. That's what you get for owning a premium, dev friendly device I suppose
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adrynalyne said:
LOL, its ok, I was joking.
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get back to work on paradigm! i need NFC with screen off! (only slightly kidding )

Zepius said:
get back to work on paradigm! i need NFC with screen off! (only slightly kidding )
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Wait, are they seriously working on that?
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|>>PETITION<<| Restore task650's 'Recognized Developer' Status

So I've decided to start this thread because I've noticed something that I want to try and get changed for the better of this community and to help a person that I think deserves it.
What I'm trying to acomplish here is to start a petition that could potentially get him his status back. He deserves it in my opinion. And for the most part, I think you guys might too. So just place your vote in the pole and try and concentrate on all the work he produces for use and his attitude NOW. Please don't hold on to those grudges if you have any. Thanks.
I just noticed that one of are very Recognized Developers here on XDA (Task650) has recently lost his "Recognized Developer" status. So I decided to take it upon myself to find out why. Task650 explained to me that he recently flew off the handle and went on a "noob hunting spree" as he stated. He openly admitted to me that he was wrong for doing so and mentioned that he felt bad about it. Then went on to tell me that he has just forgotten about it and moved on with doing his best to better the SGS3 Forums and XDA as a whole. It was pretty cool to hear.
I know that he has been dealing with some pretty hardcore emotional issues with his 6 year old little girl having cancer. I can understand that sometimes we go through things in life that are that horrible, and we as human beings can act out in certain places that we normally would not. It's just something that happens and we move on from it. I can see that that's exactly what he has done. His attitude around these forums is back on track with what I've known from him and I only see him contributing and helping everyone out here on XDA as much as he possibly can. I don't think I've ever seen anyone here spend so much time updating his roms, submitting patches, and responding to others in such a helpful manner like I've seen him do. Now that's the exact type of person I believe deserves a "Recognized Developer" status. Hopefully the majority of you will agree whether or not you hold a grudge against him. I know he doesn't hold a grudge against any of you.
I DO NOT WANT ANY TROLLING OR FLAMING IN THIS THREAD! IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY. DON'T POST HERE! YOU WILL BE REPORTED IMMEDIATELY IF YOU DO!!!

Freaking out every once in a while doesn't make him less a developer or take away his skill and generosity of time and effort.
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I agree with everything you just said.
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Everyone goes through tough times and it shows that by owning up to what happened and why and accepting resposibility, then moving on to make things better overall shows he deserves the status back.

I fuxx wit the boiii!!!!! He got dat "celebrity status" roun here...
Cuttn up the bud on my SAMSUNG GALAXY S3.... #KeepIt1Hunid

I agree. He's a fantastic developer, puts out a very high quality ROM; and frankly, if he comes off a bit harsh... its probably something you should have googled. I've learned a ton, just from lurking his thread and asking the occasional question. Development software is essentially beta/testing software, so if you're going to run it... learn.
I flashed half a dozen ROMs to this device before I tried theirs, and now my only flash is for the latest update, which is routinely put out more frequently than any other aosp ROM I've seen.
Task is involved, interested, and more proactive than any paid developer I've ever known, on any platform... and he does gorgeous work for free. Its impossible not to recognize him as a developer, no matter what his title in the forum is.
Edit: didn't know about his kid either.... now I like the guy even more.
Sent from my s3, rockin' AOKP by Task and Ktoonsez

+1. I just started flashing a month ago and Task 14 was my first rom. Great dev, great support, just a reasonable straight up dude. Thanks Task...you deserve it, for simply releasing quality work! Past is the past, simple as that
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He's a great dev and he is only following and enforcing the no spoon feed and always search rule
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I've seen plenty of other developers on XDA and other forums get fed up when people don't search or decide to get an attitude because something isn't working for them or they don't get the response they wanted. Some have even left XDA because of stuff like this. Totally unnecessary. Imagine what this world would be like without Task. Very, very dark. He's only human, most of us wouldn't have half the restraint he does.

Hopefully he'd just start his own site and carry on. We need him more than he needs us.... he's just sharing something great he did for his own satisfaction.
The guy that made my HTC merge bearable till my uscc contract was up did just that.

+1 Task makes the best ROM I've ever used on 5 devices. Amazing guy.
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Task is human.... OK, maybe superhuman, but we all get tired of out of control noobs wallowing in their laziness and/or ineptitude on these forums, asking the same old questions and not reading the OP. I myself am a noob around here, but developers, mods, and fellow xda-ers who chastise those who fail to follow forum rules have helped me realize it's better to do my own homework. I've seen Task's etiquette improve since the incident on the SGS3 AOKP thread, so it's safe to say he is truly sorry and deserves to have his "recognized developer"status reinstated.
And BTW, unicorns dream of Task's ROMs!
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lol wasnt there a "BAN Task" thread to? Good ROMs, quick updates.

I'm 100% with Task.
He could overreact a little bit once but there are some users that push it hard. Push it really hard!!!

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Eh who cares what title sits under his name. We all recognize him as a good developer and that's all that really matters.
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hallo13th said:
lol wasnt there a "BAN Task" thread to?
Good ROMs, quick updates.
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yeah i think i remember something like that. it was kinda funny considering everyone ended up voted that the OP of that thread get banned. lmao.
is there any particular reason you decided to vote NO?

Part of the rules and he broke them, I think he will get his status back in due time. Good Luck

Jirv311 said:
Eh who cares what title sits under his name. We all recognize him as a good developer and that's all that really matters.
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wurd

ok so i work hard too and we might get 1000 noobs in our thread too, you don't see me or anyone of us freaking out. im sorry but yeah things happen in life and mistakes are made, it doesn't mean you dictate what xda will do or will not do. im not against humanity or wheel of life, but if you are short tempered then let the mods do the job, you don't freak out bluntly on a thread like that. Im with what xda decides best. If you really care for him then help him with his work make his life easier, learn things that are done, fix things that can be fixed by yourself and if its a last resort you can raise a question and then if you get freaked out upon then im sorry that dev is either short tempered or life is not being right with him/her, but then again if life is not being right then don't create a UFC in xda cause it'll just splatter blood everywhere and it just doesn't make sense then to do anything. Ive made mistakes too here and yeah i'll admit i was infracted 5 times and yet i learned from those infractions and i learned to control my temper and learn from mistakes and move on. Xda did what they did for a reason and let them decide what they did is right for community and for everyone's well being, if he doesn't have a title of "recognized developer it won't stop him from doing his work. Also for cluttering threads to create a petition doesn't make anyone better, if you wanna voice your opinion then message the mods directly and if mods don't respond then go step above mods to senior mods and so forth. Also if you're planning to bash me because what i said isn't something what you wanna hear or look at then please don't bother because it won't change me, im gonna do my work, and i'll be here at xda everyday and i'll still be living. just my 2 cents.