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#samsung-epic-touch: now under new management

Okay guys, after the ridiculous debacle today, those of us who frequent the IRC channels decided that it was time for a change.
For most of the day, that change was moving to a new channel. However, after some talking a few of us actually got cnz(RoadRAGEN) to listen to reason. He's turned over control of the room to an unbiased bot and gave a number of us operator passwords. To top it off, he's agreed to stay off the op list unless absolutely necessary (he won't be raging out anymore, he has his own private channel for that now). The rest of us can sign into the bot and get ops so we can keep peace and order if needed. Otherwise, the only people who get automatic ops are the bots and no one else.
Okay, first the one and only new rule. No more posting logs on xda. the moderators are probably sick of it by now and it accomplishes nothing besides starting fights. if you do post logs and we catch you, you'll get banned until you take it down. To make it worse, we don't stop cnz from doing it himself. It's counterproductive and stupid.
Lastly, cnz(RoadRAGEN) said he will dial it down inside the channel and around here. He had a talk with the moderators today and we had a talk with him in the channel. XDA didn't ban him and neither will we. It was talked about for a minute...but he banned me first...it was a fiasco. BUT, it's fixed now.
Now before you get all apprehensive, remember that despite cnz being a complete douchebag who often forgets what "crossed the line" means, he's still one of our most talented developers and has contributed a lot to this young community. Every rom up in here either directly uses his original updater script, uses a heavily modded version or pieces of it. Yes, sometimes he's incredibly insensitive and no one in their right minds would defend his personality or his actions (especially today), but he understands what happened here today and knows that doing it again is stupid.
It's all about the Android so you can come out from under your beds, the boogieman isn't also the doorman anymore.
If you're still angry about the incident, it's understandable. But remember, like xda, irc is a community and in no way do the actions today represent the community as a whole. It was as a community that we discussed the problem and it was a community that we dealt with it. So don't think this decision was made lightly.
If you don't agree, please keep the flaming to yourself. We don't need another out of control thread about IRC around here.

So this means my +q will be taken off?

tenaciousj said:
So this means my +q will be taken off?
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Yes, but it might take a minute, we're still kinda learning how to operate under the "bot is god" paradigm.
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nevermind we already lifted all the bans and stuff. all's well. clean slate.

I would love to learn how to dev and step up but have been avoiding irc due to this situation.
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I dont know what the back story is here and quite frankly I dont care.
What happens on an IRC channel outside of XDA does not belong here.
If theres drama off site, keep it off site.
Simple no?

Thank you mods. U know why.
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conantroutman said:
I dont know what the back story is here and quite frankly I dont care.
What happens on an IRC channel outside of XDA does not belong here.
If theres drama off site, keep it off site.
Simple no?
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Nope.
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Bigjim1488 said:
Nope.
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Perhaps I should point out that my question was rhetorical.
It's as simple as this.
IRC is not XDA...
DO NOT bring IRC related drama to XDA...
It really doesn't get much simpler than that does it?
(again, rhetorical question)

It's very simple...that's why there's no drama in this thread

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It's very simple...that's why there's no drama in this thread
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Not since I deleted the 15 posts of crap there isn't....
I'm out before this headache gets any worse....

conantroutman said:
Not since I deleted the 15 posts of crap there isn't....
I'm out before this headache gets any worse....
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I seem to have missed all that, so I guess I'm the ignorant party at the moment. I really don't think the changes made or this thread should be held responsible for the unwieldy comments of others, though. I've been nothing but civil in all this
But I don't blame you, though. I can't imagine people are going quietly into that good night and I'm sure I've been getting my fair share of the flames as well for trying to mediate all this nonsense.

I wasn't pointing the blame in any particular direction.
Just making sure everyone is on the same page.

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I wasn't pointing the blame in any particular direction.
Just making sure everyone is on the same page.
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Of course not, I didn't mean to insinuate that lol.
When I went to bed last night everyone was on the same page, but I got a bunch of PMs saying I was "flamed by some noob" and the thread/posts are gone (I guess that was your doing lol, thank you). I was just saying the angry words of a few don't represent the opinions of the rest of us.
People have their opinions. That's not illegal yet, so I'm not offended. However, if my name is eventually going to be Mudd, then I'll probably end up ceasing my attempts to help out and go back to my little corner to make roms again

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Of course not, I didn't mean to insinuate that lol.
When I went to bed last night everyone was on the same page, but I got a bunch of PMs saying I was "flamed by some noob" and the thread/posts are gone (I guess that was your doing lol, thank you). I was just saying the angry words of a few don't represent the opinions of the rest of us.
People have their opinions. That's not illegal yet, so I'm not offended. However, if my name is eventually going to be Mudd, then I'll probably end up ceasing my attempts to help out and go back to my little corner to make roms again
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Seems like we're back on track here
Dont hesitate to give me a shout if anything crops up though.

conantroutman said:
Seems like we're back on track here
Dont hesitate to give me a shout if anything crops up though.
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Will do, although based on empirical evidence, you'll probably hear about it long before I will lol.

Thanks absolutezero. I haven't been on irc in a while. Honestly just forgot about it. What are the best times to go on?
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

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Thanks absolutezero. I haven't been on irc in a while. Honestly just forgot about it. What are the best times to go on?
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!
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lol whenever, the only real dead times are between 5am and 9am

I think it's funny that I posted "Uh oh..." and it got deleted.
Drama is as drama does.

AbsolutZeroGI said:
lol whenever, the only real dead times are between 5am and 9am
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Thanks. That's what I was wondering when the dead times are.
Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

Hey guys just fyi, I'm not associated with the channel anymore. After nearly a dozen PMs in IRC and almost another dozen on here about how I'm a hate monger and a jerk off, I've decided that it's not worth it and I've had enough.
To all of you who PMed me with negative things, you should be ashamed of yourselves.
To those of you who appreciated the efforts, sorry I couldn't do more.
Being ostracized because I refuse to bend to Mob Rule just feels wrong to me, but that's what is happening. Apparently I was being offensive by treating everyone with equal respect without discrimination and not being an anti-cnz hate monger like everyone else.
It sucks, I liked that irc channel, but there's capable people running it still. I won't be going back. I'm tired of being nearly constantly flamed for trying to be fair and helpful.
*sigh* I feel better now. Peace guys.

A Thank You to all the Devs

Hey Devs & Helpers out there,
Just wanted to write a thank you to all the hard work you put in, gratis, for our device.
I cannot overstate how fantastic it is to have a wide selection of roms for our phone, as it gives the user so many options and things to look forward to in terms of updates, functionality, battery life, etc - the list goes on and on.
It's really made this website a haven, as well as an addiction for myself, and has also made my phone usage (and distractions at the office!) go through the roof. Whenever I use my phone in public, on the subway or whatever, I'm hoping there is another user out there who realizes the graphics / interface on my phone is unique, and can inspire them to "achieve" the same. Perhaps I'll even try to do a little programming myself at some point (although my CS101 class in college was probably one of my biggest challenges - and that's for an ME!)
Once again, best regards and much thanks to those hard working devs out there, who deserve nothing but our gratitude and support. Don't thank this post, thank all the devs who put in time day in and day out. Keep on truckin'!
Best regards,
-Dirk

Agreed. I was late to the game with smartphones...buying my DInc2 last July was my first. I was going to wait to root after my warranty was over, but after rooting my wife's nook color, I ventured over to this forum to see what was going on for my phone. Needless to say, it was probably two weeks after browsing this forum that I started enjoying what the hardworking devs have been up to.
I also wouldn't mind venturing into the development aspect of Android but my wife would kill me if I spent even more time on my phone.

I couldn't have said it any better, thanks all you devs and themers for all your hard work
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+1 thank you all developers.

I have to agree. I've definitely been enjoying the results of all of the devs' hard work. Keep it up!
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Here here!! Another huge thanks to all the devs out there using their personal time to make our phones (and everyone else's for that matter) well worth keeping! There's been plenty of times I wanted to tell a dev how awesome their Rom was but it's taken me some time to get past this 10 post rule. Lol.

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Pete02 said:
Here here!! Another huge thanks to all the devs out there using their personal time to make our phones (and everyone else's for that matter) well worth keeping! There's been plenty of times I wanted to tell a dev how awesome their Rom was but it's taken me some time to get past this 10 post rule. Lol.
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haha, I know exactly what you mean. I'm more a lurker than a poster here, but i'm finding myself wanting to mention bugs or issues i'm having with some of the newer builds. That dang 10 comment rule!
...helps when I don't type the image verification code in the title spot

Thanks!
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haha, I know exactly what you mean. I'm more a lurker than a poster here, but i'm finding myself wanting to mention bugs or issues i'm having with some of the newer builds. That dang 10 comment rule!
...helps when I don't type the image verification code in the title spot
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+1 exactly how I am...

Thank you developers!
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An Apology

I have looked back and realize that what I type, sounds fine in my head, yet gets taken as douchey when read by others who do not understand or know me. I don't mean for it to come out as such, but it does anyway.
For this, I apologize, and will do my best to sound less confrontational, be friendlier, and all around nicer.
This took me a lot to type, so please be patient with me as I attempt to correct the error of my ways. I can't promise I will turn the other cheek, but I will try.

adrynalyne said:
I have looked back and realize that what I type, sounds fine in my head, yet gets taken as douchey when read by others who do not understand or know me. I don't mean for it to come out as such, but it does anyway.
For this, I apologize, and will do my best to sound less confrontational, be friendlier, and all around nicer.
This took me a lot to type, so please be patient with me as I attempt to correct the error of my ways. I can't promise I will turn the other cheek, but I will try.
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such a douche move posting this

I understand you. <hugz>

CMNein said:
I understand you. <hugz>
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<3

Somehow, I can relate. In many ways, I sound douchey when I don't mean for this to happen.

Props.
I think we could all be a little nicer and a little less confrontational.

Maybe I've just gotten used to everything from the Thunderbolt days but you've never been a douche in my eyes Adrynalyne <3

Quick, someone ask him to compare a Nexus to a GS3.
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Nice bro. It takes some balls to recognize and apologize. Props. You're a great developer btw.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

phaze one said:
Nice bro. It takes some balls to recognize and apologize. Props. You're a great developer btw.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
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Thank you. I hope to get back into the game here soon. I am just doing 21323434 things in real life and I ideally need about 72 hours in a day.

The first time I ran into you on here you were super nice and helpful. Thought you were good people. Once you got short with me cause I made a repost lolz. Just assumed that stressful home life=not much patience with strangers on the internet. Happens to all of us bro. Takes a real man to apologize though.
Your humble ways are inspiring

I've got to say..... I'm happy to see this Glad you are being stand up about it. Much respect.
---Jay--- From the CM9 powered E4GT

personally never saw an adryn post that was out of line, or lacked in truth....still stand up guy

You're so noble.
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Who here hasn't come off a little douchey from time to time.
For me it's like every other post.

adrynalyne said:
I have looked back and realize that what I type, sounds fine in my head, yet gets taken as douchey when read by others who do not understand or know me. I don't mean for it to come out as such, but it does anyway.
For this, I apologize, and will do my best to sound less confrontational, be friendlier, and all around nicer.
This took me a lot to type, so please be patient with me as I attempt to correct the error of my ways. I can't promise I will turn the other cheek, but I will try.
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You've been one of the most helpful people on here and you never rubbed me the wrong way

nitsuj17 said:
personally never saw an adryn post that was out of line, or lacked in truth....still stand up guy
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+1. Does that mean we're cranky too????
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Unfortunately, getting expressions and tones across is impossible via written text, I think all of us have re-worded a reply in order to sound less 'douche' and you end up losing the context you were trying to get across.
'Douche' sounding or not, your still one of the most reliable, helpful and knowledgeable guys on here, Props for the honest post. Not changing my signature tho
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adrynalyne said:
I have looked back and realize that what I type, sounds fine in my head, yet gets taken as douchey when read by others who do not understand or know me. I don't mean for it to come out as such, but it does anyway.
For this, I apologize, and will do my best to sound less confrontational, be friendlier, and all around nicer.
This took me a lot to type, so please be patient with me as I attempt to correct the error of my ways. I can't promise I will turn the other cheek, but I will try.
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Omg. Youre that dude in your signature. Lol.
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Omg. Youre that dude in your signature. Lol.
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LMAO!

Donations to developers

Let's get this thread going by listing donations we've made and to which developers. No need to post amounts as no matter how large or small your donation is, I'm sure the awesome devs will still appreciate it. The OP will be updated to list member names please be honest, we don't want a thread with fake donations. The devs for this phone deserve better than that! Thanks community.

Ah the vanity....
Well intended, I know, but...
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I think many would like to keep this private and see this as bragging. To me, it becomes about ego and false pride if you have to tell others about your charity.
But to each his own I guess.
I've given support to many in many devs in many different device forums, over the years because I appreciate the skill, time and work they put into it. Not large sums by any means but at least something when I can/I]. But I believe most devs do it for the fun of learning and tinkering. And then just getting some well deserved thanks is a huge thing (or is/was in my case) I know the donations are certainly appreciated and help give some motivation and cover expenses but some people just can't give all the time.
That's just my two cents - from an older guy who's been a tinkering with systems since when we actually had to write code on a punch card machine.

dang
my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...

I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)

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I donated but next time I will think it twice. (I have my reasons)
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Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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wp7chris said:
my bad than people, it just seems to me that the majority of our devs are leaving so I thought this might help a few stay, or at least feel appreciated even though they are leaving. Lots of immaturity on these forums made a few leave, plus the s3...
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If a dev is in it for the Donations, Then why would you want there work any way. You do not get the best work from people that do it for money. Oh and just to let you know they are not getting very much and that is not the reason we dev. We dev because it is fun.

Though I've seen a lot of people post their confirmation of donation in an open thread, I choose to donate privately when I am able to give at all. Though I'm not able to give as much as I would like for the amazing work we are given, I hope my fawning adoration makes up for it.
Stupid thanks limit

Word to the wise. Never donate to any "developer" asking for donations before any rom/kernel is released. Ive kept my eye on the whole swamp goblin donation scam. That seems to happen alot around different sites. I would think a user who pulls a scam like that would be banned? Its gotta be against xda rules?
Edit: Just checked Swamp Goblins Profile, He hasnt posted anything anywhere sense June 21, 2012.
Sent From A Rotary Phone

wp7chris said:
Why do you regret donating? Did something bad happen?
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The Dev performed the disappearing act...

Swamp Goblin doesn't believe he actually asked for donations, I think it's a perception issue.
I understand Devs have real lives and don't get paid for what they do (aside from occasional donations) therefore they are beholden to no one for ETAs, however when you request help to get a specific phone and promise a product for it then you do have an obligation to at least stay present in the situation. That doesn't mean you have to have it complete but you do need to be active in letting people know what's going on.
Also I agree with a post made in another thread regarding this, if you know you are too busy to put full effort towards a project on which you asked for a donated phone, then you shouldn't have ever started the process until such time when you were unencumbered by so much other stuff. I have to say that people were incredibly tolerant with his lack of output for quite some time and should be acknowledged for that, it has only been recently that people have grown wary of his actual intentions and started to question his motives directly.
My only real issue with the guy (other than his lengthy absences from posting any sort of information) is that he once commented that he was struggling with the sense build so he was going to spend time working on another ROM for another phone and then return to the E4GT. I don't recall exactly where it was and it may have even been edited by now but at the time I felt something was off.
Initially many of us were excited at the prospect of sense and may have allowed that excitement to color our normal judgement, I was in on the initial push to help him find a phone but I was looking at ebay and places where he might pick one up with his own money. Nevertheless, bygones I suppose.
Now, with all that said, I would hope these few instances of possible scams don't discourage people from donating. My only advice would be to pay attention to the Developer's work, reputation, support for existing products and interaction here on the forums. When we donate we do so in good faith and I'm happy to say that with the vast majority of the Devs here, we are well paid in return.

Sorry guys, but this thread is not a good idea at all. Just got off the phone with Cleo (yea, I'm that old) and she says she sees alot of name calling, pointing fingers, and bickering in this threads future. So I have to go with what she says.
---Jay--- From the Nexus

DEVS....Thank You All....I Bid You Adieu

All of the E4GT touch devs...thanks for all the software and tips that made being on Sprint a bearable experience. Crawj, sfhub, QBking, Agat, Sextape, rwilco12, venom, datajosh, and everybody else....thanks!
I have sold my device back to sprint and I recently bought the RAZR Maxx on Verizon. I travel ALOT for my job and the nationwide sprint network was just too terrible as far as data and cell coverage, its sad because Sprint was my first cell company 10 years ago....smh.
I'll probably get the RAZR HD when it comes out..I know i could've waited...but my sprint situation reached critical mass...and I HAD to switch. You guys are all rockstars from mars...rock on dudes...rock on. :good::good:

If everyone that switched phones or carriers started a thread like this we would have a ton of crap to search through to find any useful info. Wouldn't just hitting the thanks button once in a while be just as good? I mean unless somebody cured cancer are we not really just blank faces here anyhow?

Shoutout to woody296 lol.

Wtf? Why do people feel the need to post these threads. Nobody cares that you bought a new phone. Hope jay closes this trash.
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OK I try to avoid these conversations and not respond. But come on. This is the General section. He is not trolling with some worthless garbage that many people tend to post. He is saying goodbye to a community that he has been a part of and thanking people at the same time. He has not attacked, harassed or complained about anything. He has not posted something that has been posted 100 times. And he has posted in the correct location. So if he wishes to express himself so be it. If you don't like what he is posting move on. There is no need to disrespect someone for sharing their thoughts and/or feelings.
If I left for another phone I would probably do the same thing. Because it is a community. I try to help people in my community, be it virtual or real, in any way that I can. So I don't see anything off the wall with someone saying goodbye to their community and showing gratitude for anyone that has helped them. Yes the thanks button works and yes I use it all the time. But sometimes a written message, that takes an effort to write out and that shows a thanks coming directly from you, is much better than a click of a button.
I think we should all lighten up a bit. Sometimes we take things way to serious.

YeaH!

It's only polite to say good-bye. If anyone's "trolling" it's the naysayers in this thread. The old adage, "if you don't have anything nice to say, shut the Phuck up!" Holds true here! :silly:
Give the guy break....wave good-bye and move on. Jeesh!

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OK I try to avoid these conversations and not respond. But come on. This is the General section. He is not trolling with some worthless garbage that many people tend to post. He is saying goodbye to a community that he has been a part of and thanking people at the same time. He has not attacked, harassed or complained about anything. He has not posted something that has been posted 100 times. And he has posted in the correct location. So if he wishes to express himself so be it. If you don't like what he is posting move on. There is no need to disrespect someone for sharing their thoughts and/or feelings.
If I left for another phone I would probably do the same thing. Because it is a community. I try to help people in my community, be it virtual or real, in any way that I can. So I don't see anything off the wall with someone saying goodbye to their community and showing gratitude for anyone that has helped them. Yes the thanks button works and yes I use it all the time. But sometimes a written message, that takes an effort to write out and that shows a thanks coming directly from you, is much better than a click of a button.
I think we should all lighten up a bit. Sometimes we take things way to serious.
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I would like to agree and I would back every word written above.
As a member of this community who tries to do something for our phones (I won't call myself a dev yet) I really like to see some posts and not just the tnank you count. It helps me to keep up with what I'm doing and continue doing it.
It shows me that my work is needed and wanted and IMHO without that feeling I don't know how long I would of done all this.
And I can't imagine a single person who would not appreciate simple warm words and a "thank you" message for work done and for effort and time invested in something.
And one question at the end.
This is general section for anything and everything a member whants to say or share.
What is wrong with expressing ones opinion and feeling or posting some "Thank you" words here?

Well maybe we should start a poll? I have zero talent in this area so if someone else could do that i would hit their thank you button. Hey, how come this guy didn't thank Jay or did he and i missed it? Hotspace and agate63, you forgot to thank the op, cmon now, live up to your posts.....Thank you for thanking him\her hotspace, only one more left...

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Well maybe we should start a poll? I have zero talent in this area so if someone else could do that i would hit their thank you button. Hey, how come this guy didn't thank Jay or did he and i missed it? Hotspace and agate63, you forgot to thank the op, cmon now, live up to your posts.....
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I don't have a thanks button.....but thanks OP.
I changed my theme just so I could provide Thanks!

When you really want to thank someone, you do it one on one so you can look them in the eye,shake their hand, or even pm someone so they really understand you mean it.When you do it in a room full of people it's called grandstanding. You get to tell your story and then others can look at you and go "ain't that nice" so it's actually for the person saying thank you not for the person being thanked. So it's more of a drama thing than anything else. Not that i meant that's what the op was doing, I'm sure he\she was genuine.

Banter is just that.....it goes back and forth. Kind of like a volley in tennis. However, I was raised to praise in public and criticize in private. To each their own...:good:

I'm still here... with about 5 new devices but looking for ET4G. May consider trading my N7 for one and a few bucks... sssup everybody.
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For those of you who are butt hurt by this thread....if this truly did bother you, then you should've browsed right past it instead of coming in here and crying.

How do i flash this?
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LOL

JohnCorleone said:
I'm still here... with about 5 new devices but looking for ET4G. May consider trading my N7 for one and a few bucks... sssup everybody.
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In the next few weeks like the following day if the 7th mine 98% will be available.pm me or contact me. Gtalk [email protected]

Rinzler said:
For those of you who are butt hurt by this thread....if this truly did bother you, then you should've browsed right past it instead of coming in here and crying.
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Good to see you back and i hope your new device is working well. Can you explain the meaning of the picture to me? Am i supposed to hate batman or does he hate me or how does that work, I'm so confused. I will hit your thanks button.

woody296 said:
If everyone that switched phones or carriers started a thread like this we would have a ton of crap to search through to find any useful info. Wouldn't just hitting the thanks button once in a while be just as good? I mean unless somebody cured cancer are we not really just blank faces here anyhow?
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brooksyx said:
Wtf? Why do people feel the need to post these threads. Nobody cares that you bought a new phone. Hope jay closes this trash.
Are you serious??
Id sooner hope Jay handed a 'vacation' out
to people who would trash his heartfelt goodbye and thank you then want to see true appreciation removed... but thats just me...
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