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Soo.... I have had android phones for about year. Now I have the epic and I love it a lot.., but I'm hearing about rooting and ROM'S and all this other stuff... What is it? And by doing these things will I damage my device.? I need to be clued in big time.
well before you get dinged for posting this let me try and give a link that may shed some light
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SPH-D700
Well... that guide on what everything was helped a little bit but it was all kinda confusing seeing as I'm new to the terms and whatnot. It basically sounds dangerous though and if I accidentally "brick" my phone I am going to die what are the positives of rooting my phone? And also, why would I get dinged fo posting this???
Cuz is posted 1000 times and u need to do your homework and start reading starting with 1click root is your best bet. And don't be afraid this phone is almost impossible to brick like I said almost and good luck.
dito33
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Geminispirit said:
And also, why would I get dinged fo posting this???
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Because technically this is supposed to be a developers board. They want you to learn the basics elsewhere and come here to develop new software.
And also we have people asking "what are root and roms" pretty much every other day. And then new people come and don't bother to read the threads that already answer their questions or use the search to find answers. Instead, they expect someone to start giving them the answers from scratch all over again.
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if I accidentally "brick" my phone I am going to die
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If you can't afford to be without your phone for a day or can't afford to replace the phone if it becomes damaged, then do NOT mess with it.
Most circumstances all this is harmless/recoverable, but if the phone is a necessity (or not yours, ie parents), I wouldn't mess with it.
The only thing more annoying that seeing 50 post threads consisting of 48 people commenting on "wrong section" is threads from people that just messed up their parents phone and -now- it's an emergency.
Go here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=798067
That should cover pretty much everything you need to know to get started and research stuff on your own.
Ummm thanks to everyone? I appreciate the advice and I'll try to figure this out. I'm just a newbie here (obviously) and I didn't know the ropes about how to find out "basic" info... Thanks for the links that were posted as well. Also, for the person who said something about this being my parents phone...? This is my phone.... and I paid a lot to get it and I don't want to damage it
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Ohh... and also I just believe I'm going to leave my phone as it is... I don't see the positive benefits of rooting it. Plus I don't want to damage anything
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That's probably a good idea. You shouldn't make any major changes to your phone if you don't understand what you are changing.
Oh yeah, no benefits whatsoever
WHY SHOULD I ROOT MY PHONE?
Rooting offers several great things including, but certainly not limited to, access to hidden features, total customization, better battery life, and overclocking. It gives you control over the device that you paid money for in the first place. The devs here are great at finding features that the manufacturers left out or disabled and making them work.
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Oh yeah, no benefits whatsoever
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Lol... that sounds cool and whatnot but in the end, I just not that technologically wise.. but I do appreciate the people who are if I knew as much as them, i'd probably try the whole rooting thing
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Just a heads up, there is a new ota going out right now.
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old news!
1.theres already a thread about it
2.we already know about the minor update
3. stop posting stuff thats already been posted!
marcviado said:
old news!
1.theres already a thread about it
2.we already know about the minor update
3. stop posting stuff thats already been posted!
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Get a life. If you already knew, then don't open the thread. No need for your two cents.
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kingsway8605 said:
Get a life
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umm, quit crapping up the community with ur poor threads
andybones said:
umm, quit crapping up the community with ur poor threads
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If it annoys you, don't open the thread, simple solution.
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Now now guys cant we all just get along? So much hostility.
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Now now guys cant we all just get along? So much hostility.
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I agree. Just trying to help those who hadn't realized it but apparently there are a few people on here with the maturity of a 12 year old.
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Anyone know if it's safe to patch over the air?
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Anyone know if it's safe to path over the air?
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If you mean will you lose root, the answer is almost always yes.
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kingsway8605 said:
Get a life. If you already knew, then don't open the thread. No need for your two cents.
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haha obviously you have no life but to post crappy threads on here thats alreadys been posted! im surprised your stupidity didnt lead you to posting
this in the dev section!
if your gonna post something at least search if anything relating to what you want to post has already been posted idiot!
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If it annoys you, don't open the thread, simple solution.
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dont be posting useless threads in the first place haha
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If it annoys you, don't open the thread, simple solution.
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Honestly no one wants to hear it from some jackass that TALKED SOOOOOOO MUCH **** ABOUT SOFTWARE ROOT ANYWAY. Follow the rules and search before posting useless information that has been already posted! No one cares that you just found this out and you really don't need to open a thread every time you find something new out. This isn't Twitter. This is why the Dinc2 community is CRAP. No one even wants to Dev for us because some of us are ungrateful jerks. People don't forget, and if I recall correctly let me show you how grateful you are.
kingsway8605 "I would feel dumb IF a stable software root was released. But I am not worried about that happening." - Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15419763&postcount=13
go ahead and feel dumb, you should.
kingsway8605 "Sure they don't "advertise" it but they are having their cronies post all over here about some imaginary root. I refer you to my previous post about ignoring it. I would rather not continue to argue with you about something I am obviously right about and risk a mod banning me. When, or actually if, Alphrev releases root, I will admit you were right. But I can promise you that won't happen."
do us all a favor and keep your thoughts to yourself. obviously you type before you think, and I don't care if you said your sorry, you still wrongfully accused the very people who's software YOU are using. they shouldn't have even let you use it personally.
BYE-BYE NOW!
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Honestly no one wants to hear it from some jackass that TALKED SOOOOOOO MUCH **** ABOUT SOFTWARE ROOT ANYWAY. Follow the rules and search before posting useless information that has been already posted! No one cares that you just found this out and you really don't need to open a thread every time you find something new out. This isn't Twitter. This is why the Dinc2 community is CRAP. No one even wants to Dev for us because some of us are ungrateful jerks. People don't forget, and if I recall correctly let me show you how grateful you are.
kingsway8605 "I would feel dumb IF a stable software root was released. But I am not worried about that happening." - Link - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15419763&postcount=13
go ahead and feel dumb, you should.
kingsway8605 "Sure they don't "advertise" it but they are having their cronies post all over here about some imaginary root. I refer you to my previous post about ignoring it. I would rather not continue to argue with you about something I am obviously right about and risk a mod banning me. When, or actually if, Alphrev releases root, I will admit you were right. But I can promise you that won't happen."
do us all a favor and keep your thoughts to yourself. obviously you type before you think, and I don't care if you said your sorry, you still wrongfully accused the very people who's software YOU are using. they shouldn't have even let you use it personally.
BYE-BYE NOW!
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Seriously, get a life. How long did it take to type that. I didn't even read what you wrote. Stop spamming the forum. Grow up.
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Seriously, get a life. How long did it take to type that. I didn't even read what you wrote. Stop spamming the forum. Grow up.
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It took me a whole 3 minutes tops, because I know how to use the SEARCH button. and I can't SPAM a USELESS thread, this will be deleted once you waste a Mods time and they get around to it.
EDIT: oh, and if I can type faster than you can read, sorry.
its not worth argueing with him andybones,hes obviously an idiot who simply cant do a search before posting a crappy useless thread
I have to check the website. Curious if there is a way to block users who spam the forum. I actually hope a mod deletes it, nobody wants to hear your useless arguing. As for me creating useless threads, I think I have created 3 threads total so far, and one of them helped quite a few people with their alarm clock issues.
For now I am just going to manually ignore you guys. Type away at me, not even going to bother reading them. I will be the mature one.
Edit: wow, just checked my other thread and you argued with someone else in that thread. Do you actually do anything on this site besides argue with others because reading through your comment history it sure seems like all you do is argue, you are ignored for sure.
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I have to check the website. Curious if there is a way to block users who spam the forum. I actually hope a mod deletes it, nobody wants to hear your useless arguing. As for me creating useless threads, I think I have created 3 threads total so far, and one of them helped quite a few people with their alarm clock issues.
For now I am just going to manually ignore you guys. Type away at me, not even going to bother reading them. I will be the mature one.
Edit: wow, just checked my other thread and you argued with someone else in that thread. Do you actually do anything on this site besides argue with others because reading through your comment history it sure seems like all you do is argue, you are ignored for sure.
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You can ignore me all you want. Truth of the matter is, I do help people. You annoy people. Clearly. I don't even need to justify myself. For how many days did you down talk alpharevX, and now use their product? I highly doubt you donated. and I'm not arguing, I'm responding, and my first post was blowing off a little steam because it's people like you who CRAP these threads up.. it's not wonder all the REAL devs left XDA. useless, ungrateful people like yourself. If you have a problem with my post, report it
Is this OTA dump kosher.
I may not be getting OTA in my location. So I went fishing and came across this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...8-605-4-same-as-the-official-gingerbread-ota/
They claim it is the same as the OTA but since it can be RUU'ed will work on all phones, incl. those with modification to the ROM.
Has anybody tried this one? Also, since I have never gone the RUU route some additional instructions will be most welcome.
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Is this OTA dump kosher.
I may not be getting OTA in my location. So I went fishing and came across this.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...8-605-4-same-as-the-official-gingerbread-ota/
They claim it is the same as the OTA but since it can be RUU'ed will work on all phones, incl. those with modification to the ROM.
Has anybody tried this one? Also, since I have never gone the RUU route some additional instructions will be most welcome.
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If you are not s off, just flash it. If it has been tampered with than the update should fail. It isn't todays ota though, it is the one from a few weeks ago.
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Thanks @kingsway8605. This is the only one I could find. About two weeks old. Any other URL's?
Presumably the flashing involved copying the file (with changed name) to SD card root. Remove the USB cable and then do <volume down> + <power>. I hope the follow up is pretty simple and straight forward. I do not have much Android experience.
http://www.forums.acsyndicate.net/showthread.php/2565-ACS-Odin-Pre-Rooted-Tar!-Root-your-Epic-Touch-here!
Epic Touch Root at the link above!
Am I being incredibly stupid, or is the link to the kernel not anywhere in his post?
Lol no
Its probably still uploading
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yea, everyones waiting for it like crazy. Just check out the guest list XD.
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Lol no
Its probably still uploading
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Ah... I was beginning to doubt even my ability to find and click on a blue, underlined word. It's been a long day.
Yeah I found it 3 minutes after he posted about it. I don't even have my phone yet (will get it Monday). I'm just trying to help my favorite DEV community by flowing out some information!
He's still working on it
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Not trying to sound ungrateful
I thought links to external sites for software\roms was against the rules, e.g. keep everything in one place. (However I can be completely wrong)
Im getting my touch on Monday and am super excited to see root, but having come from an Epic 4G (horrible community) plagued with people selling roms, closed threads and trolling..
I just dont want to see that happen here with this phone.
Perhaps the name *epic* is jinxed.
If I could request one thing, that would be to post a direct link here in the OP.
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I thought links to external sites for software\roms was against the rules, e.g. keep everything in one place. (However I can be completely wrong)
Im getting my touch on Monday and am super excited to see root, but having come from an Epic 4G (horrible community) plagued with people selling roms, closed threads and trolling..
I just dont want to see that happen here with this phone.
Perhaps the name *epic* is jinxed.
If I could request one thing, that would be to post a direct link here in the OP.
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Not trying to break rules. I'm just trying to help. I'm sure it will be put here as well shortly after it finishes. I also couldn't tell you how many Android Central posts I've found linked on these forums.
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I thought links to external sites for software\roms was against the rules, e.g. keep everything in one place. (However I can be completely wrong)
Im getting my touch on Monday and am super excited to see root, but having come from an Epic 4G (horrible community) plagued with people selling roms, closed threads and trolling..
I just dont want to see that happen here with this phone.
Perhaps the name *epic* is jinxed.
If I could request one thing, that would be to post a direct link here in the OP.
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It is against the rules to link to a site where you are required to register to download. You don't for the ACS site, so it doesn't break any rules.
Shabby is the man!
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Not trying to break rules. I'm just trying to help. I'm sure it will be put here as well shortly after it finishes. I also couldn't tell you how many Android Central posts I've found linked on these forums.
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I think you are good since you don't need to sign up and buy anything
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^this, we do it because we have adsense up. i know its kinda sleazy but acs gives its devs phones to work with, like for instance my new photon came from adsense revenue from my work on teh prevail/replenish. so is it an underhand technique to make some money off of work? yea... like its stated we dont require registration.
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^this, we do it because we have adsense up. i know its kinda sleazy but acs gives its devs phones to work with, like for instance my new photon came from adsense revenue from my work on teh prevail/replenish. so is it an underhand technique to make some money off of work? yea... like its stated we dont require registration.
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Yeah, and it definitely makes me want to step my game up when it comes to development
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shabbypenguin said:
^this, we do it because we have adsense up. i know its kinda sleazy but acs gives its devs phones to work with, like for instance my new photon came from adsense revenue from my work on teh prevail/replenish. so is it an underhand technique to make some money off of work? yea... like its stated we dont require registration.
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Shabby,
I will put my money where my mouth is, I really appreciate it. Im going to look for a donate link on your site. (couldn't find one, so I will click on some ads)
Like I said earlier, wasn't sure if it broke rules or not. I just appreciate all your devs work and do not want this to become another epic 4g.
dont go donating yet its a bad habit to start. if you wanna donate, t hen donate if your satisfied with teh final product
Do people usually create threads proclaiming they've achieved root BEFORE they've actually achieved a distributable root? Been refreshing the "GOT ROOT!" thread all day, and now following Shabby's quest in IRC. Kind of funny. Not trying to knock anyone, but damn they keep getting my hopes up!
Seriously...this does nothing for anyone yet because there are no drivers at all.
*Goes to little black book to contact Samsung source*
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Do people usually create threads proclaiming they've achieved root BEFORE they've actually achieved a distributable root? Been refreshing the "GOT ROOT!" thread all day, and now following Shabby's quest in IRC. Kind of funny. Not trying to knock anyone, but damn they keep getting my hopes up!
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hey now, i didnt make the thread
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hey now, i didnt make the thread
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No, not this one!
OK, so I have a rooted S3 running the FrostyJB ROM. When I try using the USSD code to check my data usage (#932#), I get a message that my account is not set up for that feature. Also, both the TMO My Account app and the mytmobile website do not show my data usage, although they do show usage for minutes and text messages.
I ran into a TMO store, and they couldn't figure it out but said it may be due to root. Thoughts? I would like to be able to check my data usage, and every time I flash a ROM, it resets the data usage stats on the phone. Very annoying.
Does your IMEI in the About Phone section match whats on the back of your phone under the battery? Just a stab in the dark with that one...
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Does your IMEI in the About Phone section match whats on the back of your phone under the battery? Just a stab in the dark with that one...
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Yes, it matches.
Why the double post?
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Why the double post?
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Cuz he's stupid and made topics in both sections and one got moved here.
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Cuz he's stupid and made topics in both sections and one got moved here.
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Screw you. I posted in the General section and went back and tried deleting it. It didn't work. It's people like you that keep new people away from these forums, moron.
Oh Well......
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Screw you. I posted in the General section and went back and tried deleting it. It didn't work. It's people like you that keep new people away from these forums, moron.
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CCHEEL,
Don't let that get to you. In life there are, and we will meet MANY, ass4oles!
Just the tag of Moderator or Senior Member, seems to bring out the SH1TS in some people. There are some mods that have HUGE Signature tags and that in itself takes far more space than a small question, and they post nasties on other users in the forum, declaring why the post was moved, etc.. Some of them think they s4it ice cream and pi$$ Coca Cola.... Can't let it take the rest of us members of the forum down. Most of us recognize the childish a$$hole behavior and ignore them. They think they walk on water and talk to god. Hopefully they will either grow up or die away.... Hang in there and keep smiling. You made my day with your retort! (it was just about to the point as can be, without saying the word you wanted to say) LOL You know how it is,.... Hang a title on a piece of s4it and he thinks he's become God! Don't worry. Respect is EARNED and posts like what was done does in no way garner any respect.
Keep smiling, and the forum is for us all! You Me and any a$$hole that comes along, I guess.
just my 2 cents.
So many ROM threads exploding with people who flashed their way into a whole bunch of trouble, and don't know how to get out of it.
Hopefully these predicaments are the inspiration many need to learn basic ADB commands after installing the requisite programs/drivers on their cpu. The trouble could have been avoided in the first place by not blindly flashing without reading the well documented issues they may encounter.
1. Read the thread,
2. Read the stickies,
3. If you occasionally like getting into trouble, at least have the proper tools available to get out of it.
4. If not, use search button.
couldn't agree more. what the devs do has taken a lot of work to make stable(ish) for everyone but it can STILL screw your **** up. so people need to be careful.
http://www.galaxynexusforum.com/for...9-basic-commands-newcomers-adb.html#post28883
theres a link that was useful for me, hopefully useful for others. further reading material, is what i guess i can say about it.
^ Can't believe I posted one of "those" threads. Lame.
Edit: just tried to thank you, but I'm thanked out for the day apparently.
If they can't read the original thread, you expect them to read this one?
its a nice thought, but roots back to RTFM, those that should never do
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So many ROM threads exploding with people who flashed their way into a whole bunch of trouble, and don't know how to get out of it.
Hopefully these predicaments are the inspiration many need to learn basic ADB commands after installing the requisite programs/drivers on their cpu. The trouble could have been avoided in the first place by not blindly flashing without reading the well documented issues they may encounter.
1. Read the thread,
2. Read the stickies,
3. If you occasionally like getting into trouble, at least have the proper tools available to get out of it.
4. If not, use search button.
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I don't feel sorry for them. I'm a system admin at work and I have so many users who do similar things to their pcs and I usually make them suffer a bit
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I don't feel sorry for them. I'm a system admin at work and I have so many users who do similar things to their pcs and I usually make them suffer a bit
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Yeah, not even sure why I wasted time posting that. I'm the sucker. Was somewhat entertaining in a way to see the lemmings jump off the cliff though.
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Flashing has become so easy anyone can do it. That's a problem because once they run into a problem they don't know what to do.
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Well... From this, they will learn eventually, from to 0 to 1. So they know about the technology of their device rather than just using it. People need to learn...
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this is the reason why i always tell ppl not to spoon-feed noobs answers, cuz they wont learn anything and will only mess up their phones and then beg for help by creating useless threads or post in dev threads..on the other hand if ppl didnt answer their question they will be forced to read and learn thus no more useless threads/posts
After learning how to fix my own mistakes and not relying on a toolkit, I've begun to wonder, why they are even around for the Galaxy Nexus.
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Haha that's why I stopped helping people in Q+A. I used to help with the whole "Help I'm bricked" topics. Not anymore. My opinion is don't mess with root system files than CAN brick your phone if you don't know what you're doing or at least how to recover from it manually should a problem arise. Let em sweat it before they finally search and figure out ADB. Which they will. Their first instinct is to come and just ask for help. After an hour of 0 replies and the need to use their phone now, they will search and they will find what they need. Not that it matters because you have people here saying just use the toolkit to fix it. Almost every single thread in Q+A has at least one use a toolkit reply.
Idk to be honest I just stopped giving a damn about anyone but me lol. If I tried to help every single person boot looping I'll be on XDA 24/7. I got a nexus, I jumped the gun & used a toolkit. I boot looped. I searched and I figured out what I needed to do to get back up & running. As far as I'm concerned let them do the same. That's the way it is today. Everyone wants to be spoonfed. They only want the end result, but don't wanna work for it.
Apple - Innovating new ways to take your money
Well if they brick their own phone, because what they do to it. They will be learn their lesson,...
Once i brick my tab... Then i learn from that to understand the process... About ask for help in web? ... That's out of question.. The only one left is... You and you brick phone.. Since that,i always looking many source of knowledge before do something to my phone..
Anyway android is open source isn't it? If people want to learn.. Why not..? Or it's just change like corporate, monopoly only for certain people...
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Opens door to room filled with people who think they are much more intelligent than most, snickers and quietly closes door and walks away.
Uhm. I think this is just another proof of the tiny minded humanity. Doing stuff without knowing a single bit or without thinking about consequences. Just like war. Making it without having a single idea.
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Opens door to room filled with people who think they are much more intelligent than most, snickers and quietly closes door and walks away.
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I for one was thinking of instances where I knew what was in the OP :cyclops:
My Android knowledge is debatable and it goes without saying that my intelligence is highly debatable.
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After learning how to fix my own mistakes and not relying on a toolkit, I've begun to wonder, why they are even around for the Galaxy Nexus.
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Hey, as the guy who started the linked thread in the second post here, I've used Wug's Toolkit to save me time before. Yes, I had the knowledge to get myself out of that jam if that didn't work, but I feel the toolkits aren't a bad thing by themselves.
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Hey, as the guy who started the linked thread in the second post here, I've used Wug's Toolkit to save me time before. Yes, I had the knowledge to get myself out of that jam if that didn't work, but I feel the toolkits aren't a bad thing by themselves.
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I agree they're not bad at all. People just shouldn't be so fearful of, or think that learning, terminal commands is hard. Posts like the one that was linked are a great starting point, thanks for taking the time to author that post. They can pick up where the toolkits leave off when someone's in trouble.
It kinda frustrates me too. The only reason why I have a low post count is because I know how to search and I can get my self out of pretty much any sticky situation with experience/searching. I don't understand why people automatically blame the dev for something they didn't know what was going on in the first place. I have maybe a 1/10 of the issues everyone else posts because I do the proper steps before hand or I go into it knowing what is already broke. If it is an unstable ROM then why bother complaining, you should know that not everything is going to be perfect.
Same here on the posting count. I read about what I'm going to do, can't afford to brick and buy a new phone.
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