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Are there any battery that can get me a little extra juice (~1800MAh) that stick inside the stock cover?
I saw one on eBay that works with the captivate stock but it's only 1600MAh.....unless I find a bigger one, I plan on purchasing it in the near future...
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search "samsung sgh-i900 1800" on ebay
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search "samsung sgh-i900 1800" on ebay
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Can anyone confirm that this battery fits in the Captivate? It doesn't look like it's the same dimensions at all; however, Ebay pictures are usually never what the end up being, so I could be wrong.
dont buy it. it's for samsung omnia
mrdlpatterson said:
I saw one on eBay that works with the captivate stock but it's only 1600MAh.....unless I find a bigger one, I plan on purchasing it in the near future...
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Yeah, I saw those on a few places. 1600 doesn't seem worth it to me. Especially if they cheap out on the battery tech, it could easily be a lower battery life than stock
mojmojmoj said:
dont buy it. it's for samsung omnia
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Nice catch, thanks.
what about this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Samsung...66762?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item230c5844e a
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what about this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Samsung...66762?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item230c5844e a
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Good find. I'd be willing to bet it'd work. For ten bucks, I'd say it's worth taking a shot at.....
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mrdlpatterson said:
Good find. I'd be willing to bet it'd work. The one in my post was for the i900 and it explicitly stated that it'd work for the captivate. This one is for the i900 too, and for ten bucks, I'd say it's worth taking a shot at.....Although I do feel wary about the quality and improvement over the stock battery since the price is that low.
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I900? It states I9000 galaxy S so I'm assuming its safe and reliable to use with the captivate
ebay has 2x 1500mah batteries plus charging dock for 10 bucks, free chipping. that's what i'm gonna get. i know they're not going to give me more time per battery, but for 10 dollars, i can afford to treat them like semi-disposable batteries, only i can recharge them and have a couple on standby if i need them.
all those expensive $80 (FAT ONES) mugen batteries are a waste of money imho. the 1600 mah are an ever worse ripoff.
you're paying a premium for the privilege of being spared the horror and anguish of schlepping an extra battery around.
THANKFULLY, our batteries are pretty small and thin, so it's really not such a terrible thing.
anyone use the "EXTENDED" batteries before? how much extra life do you get? NOT VERY MUCH.
if i use my phone "normally" with a 1500 mah battery, it lasts the whole day, or around 15 hours for me.
if i use my phone "normally" with a 1600 mah battery, how much longer battery life will i get?
mah = milliamp/hour = milliamp per hour
1500 ma/15 h = 1600 ma/ X h
plug and chug, cross multiply, whatever, SOLVE FOR X hours.....15.999 hours.
WOW! 1600 mah batteries give you just ONE (1) extra hour of battery life.
the cheapest you can find a 1600 mah battery on ebay is $37.99. you can buy THREE (3) 1500mah batteries for $11.99 and free shipping.
i think it's quite simple to see that the "extended batteries" are just not that great an option.
i quite enjoy math. nergasm ;P
note: i know the longer we use a battery and the more times we charge it, it's maximum capacity gets smaller and smaller over time. i decided for the purposes of my post, this battery "age" factor was negligible.
waikuk said:
all those expensive $80 (FAT ONES) mugen batteries are a waste of money imho. the 1600 mah are an ever worse ripoff.
you're paying a premium for the privilege of being spared the horror and anguish of schlepping an extra battery around.
THANKFULLY, our batteries are pretty small and thin, so it's really not such a terrible thing.
anyone use the "EXTENDED" batteries before? how much extra life do you get? NOT VERY MUCH.
if i use my phone "normally" with a 1500 mah battery, it lasts the whole day, or around 15 hours for me.
if i use my phone "normally" with a 1600 mah battery, how much longer battery life will i get?
mah = milliamp/hour = milliamp per hour
1500 ma/15 h = 1600 ma/ X h
plug and chug, cross multiply, whatever, SOLVE FOR X hours.....15.999 hours.
WOW! 1600 mah batteries give you just ONE (1) extra hour of battery life.
the cheapest you can find a 1600 mah battery on ebay is $37.99. you can buy THREE (3) 1500mah batteries for $11.99 and free shipping.
i think it's quite simple to see that the "extended batteries" are just not that great an option.
i quite enjoy math. nergasm ;P
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What about 1800mah for $10 see my previous link....worth it? Think so
By your math that would be 3 extra hours for same price as 1500mah
ah, not exactly. i can't post links yet.. but there's a seller on ebay who sells THREE (3X) 1500 mah batteries for $11.99 free shipping. even includes the battery dock so you can charge an extra battery on the side while using/charging your phone's battery.
get the 3x 1500 mah. you just get more! plus if you get three batteries, you can leave them places, like one in the car, one at work, one at home, etc
i think it comes down to user preference. if that extra three hours is just what you need to get you through that last leg of your commute to home + the charger, then sure, go for it.
me personally, i was looking for a case on ebay and stumbled on that 3x battery deal. i wasn't originally looking for an extended battery
Id rather get the extended battery than buying 3 1500 batteries. The risk of breaking my phone changing batteries is high. I just bought innocase rugged. It is a hassle putting it in and out of the case. I already bought the one from ebay. 2batteries+dock charger. I don’t use it anymore because im scared to break my phone with those cheap bat. I can use the oem which has better battrery life imo so why take the risk. But the charger is nice to have.
Im not also into buying mugen expensive 1600. I might buy the 1800 for 10 if its been proven it gives more battery life compare to 1500.
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valid point. you never know what can happen with those non-oem parts. personally i like the idea of always having a spare battery at the ready. having THREE spares is probably overkill though
be sure and let us know how much more life you get with whichever extended battery you get, it would be fun to see the margin of error between real-world battery life and theoretical
eep2378 said:
what about this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/1800mAh-Samsung...66762?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item230c5844e a
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Interesting. Looks good, but I'm skeptical of ebay batteries. Hmm.
mrdlpatterson said:
Good find. I'd be willing to bet it'd work. The one in my post was for the i900 and it explicitly stated that it'd work for the captivate. This one is for the i900 too, and for ten bucks, I'd say it's worth taking a shot at.....Although I do feel wary about the quality and improvement over the stock battery since the price is that low.
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i900 and i9000 are not the same phone.
waikuk said:
ebay has 2x 1500mah batteries plus charging dock for 10 bucks, free chipping. that's what i'm gonna get. i know they're not going to give me more time per battery, but for 10 dollars, i can afford to treat them like semi-disposable batteries, only i can recharge them and have a couple on standby if i need them.
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I'm not looking for a multibattery solution. I'd much rather get two or three extra hours out of one battery, than have 12 extra hours sitting in my pocket.
waikuk said:
all those expensive $80 (FAT ONES) mugen batteries are a waste of money imho. the 1600 mah are an ever worse ripoff.
you're paying a premium for the privilege of being spared the horror and anguish of schlepping an extra battery around.
THANKFULLY, our batteries are pretty small and thin, so it's really not such a terrible thing.
anyone use the "EXTENDED" batteries before? how much extra life do you get? NOT VERY MUCH.
if i use my phone "normally" with a 1500 mah battery, it lasts the whole day, or around 15 hours for me.
if i use my phone "normally" with a 1600 mah battery, how much longer battery life will i get?
mah = milliamp/hour = milliamp per hour
1500 ma/15 h = 1600 ma/ X h
plug and chug, cross multiply, whatever, SOLVE FOR X hours.....15.999 hours.
WOW! 1600 mah batteries give you just ONE (1) extra hour of battery life.
the cheapest you can find a 1600 mah battery on ebay is $37.99. you can buy THREE (3) 1500mah batteries for $11.99 and free shipping.
i think it's quite simple to see that the "extended batteries" are just not that great an option.
i quite enjoy math. nergasm ;P
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1600 mAh is nothing, I agree. 1800 mAh is not bad, a definite improvement.
I put an order for the 1800mah battery. Ill see if its any good. At worst it doesn't work in which case im out 10 bucks, or 3 cups of coffee.
Im expecting it to be worse than stock so at least ill have an emergency battery.
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r3ferrei said:
I put an order for the 1800mah battery. Ill see if its any good. At worst it doesn't work in which case im out 10 bucks, or 3 cups of coffee.
Im expecting it to be worse than stock so at least ill have an emergency
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Let us know how it performs
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Hey guys browseing Amazon or GS2 accessories and I came across the Anker 1900mAh battery.
Now ive had the Anker 1900 on the Sensation and its legit a beast of a battery with extra juice, anyone used this for the GS2?
why not just wait a few weeks and buy the proper 2000mah battery??
iam sure samsung would have made a battery this size if possible rather then build extra back covers due to the 2000mah battery they have designed
basically i dont think anker could squeeze another 300mah into the battery at no extra size , its probably not what it says it is and i would go the official route , i have found all these cheap batterys to be useless in my times of owning mobile phones
to sum it up just buy the offical 2000mah battery from samsung or the bigger one from mugen if you want better battery life
look for anker 2300maH on ebay for $12-14 . buy it and make a review
tempted!
im very tempted. amazon uk has an offer for 2 and dockcharger and travel charger for £13. Even if its 80% of original battery i would be happy. But seems like a new release..not 1 review...
I would get the official samsung one but i have the perfect a leather, carbon fibre cases. would it fit in there? i don;t know...will i find an equivalent case that fits it...i don't no. If only if they had a demo version with new battery in a highstreet store i could try putting my case on,
ohh this make has had some reviews from same phone and different phones
im not advertising lol, just discussing reviews
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B00567Y7A6/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B005DY4MAW/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
http://www.amazon.co.uk/product-reviews/B0058SK7YS/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
what about 3500 mah ? its for $8 on ebay
buxz777 said:
why not just wait a few weeks and buy the proper 2000mah battery??
iam sure samsung would have made a battery this size if possible rather then build extra back covers due to the 2000mah battery they have designed
basically i dont think anker could squeeze another 300mah into the battery at no extra size , its probably not what it says it is and i would go the official route , i have found all these cheap batterys to be useless in my times of owning mobile phones
to sum it up just buy the offical 2000mah battery from samsung or the bigger one from mugen if you want better battery life
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Where i can get 2000mAh battery? I really need it.
ravian29 said:
what about 3500 mah ? its for $8 on ebay
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probably not even half that capacity..
I try the anker battery and doesnt work for me. That battery is bad quality because I charged and when the phone was in 5% the screen staring flashing. The phone reboot when is in 5%. I return the battery and they gave me a refund.
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probably not even half that capacity..
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Eug measured the capacity one of the spider foot batteries as 2413 mAh.
Even though it is well under the stated rating there is nothing that touches it for value. USD $10 for a 2413 mAh battery is a fantastic deal.
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Where i can get 2000mAh battery? I really need it.
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Go on expansys if you are in the UK...they have them for sale on their website
I ordered an anker battery set. should be here in one or two days will report back
I ordered it, nothing to complain but follow my feeling its not like 1900mha... same as 1650mha... one more thing universal usb travel charge need 8h to full charge( output 350mha+-50mha)
>>> with me, im using USB cable + universal usb travel and ..... im smell something from cable so i never do it again
Sick Enough To Die said:
I ordered it, nothing to complain but follow my feeling its not like 1900mha... same as 1650mha... one more thing universal usb travel charge need 8h to full charge( output 350mha+-50mha)
>>> with me, im using USB cable + universal usb travel and ..... im smell something from cable so i never do it again
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so basically your saying its got the capacity of the OEM bettery?
Read some really good reviews in the sensation forum. I would try this but its hard to find a seller who ships to Brazil.
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so basically your saying its got the capacity of the OEM bettery?
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yes, i do but its my opinion
My experience will be subjective, but I've been using 1900mah Anker batteries for the last 2 weeks. They are OK. With original battery I get 12-13 hours when everything ON! With Anker approximately 16-17 hours.
is 3500 mah battery better than 1900 mah ? increasing number of mah is better or decreasing ?
ravian29 said:
is 3500 mah battery better than 1900 mah ? increasing number of mah is better or decreasing ?
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More mAh is better. Just be aware that the 3500 mAh spider foot battery is actually about 2400 mAh. At $10 that's not really a problem though...
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k1000716 said:
More mAh is better. Just be aware that the 3500 mAh spider foot battery is actually about 2400 mAh. At $10 that's not really a problem though...
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thanks for your reply, is this spider foot battery ?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3500mAh-...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2a13b5564c
Just curious what others have found quality wise with replacement batteries. I've been looking on eBay and have come across a few extremely cheap ones and some mid priced ones as well. Any insight would be appreciated!
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I ordered one of these batteries a few days ago and I'm waiting for it to arrive. I read in another thread that the guy liked it and it worked good so we will see...
Edit: got battery now and so far so good. Way better compared to stock. For the price u can't go wrong. Worst case scenario I'm out 15 bucks if it malfunctions. Fyi using SBC kernel with it.
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Just curious what others have found quality wise with replacement batteries. I've been looking on eBay and have come across a few extremely cheap ones and some mid priced ones as well. Any insight would be appreciated!
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I've bought several 1800mAh and 1500 mAh aftermarket batteries from eBay and they have out-performed my stock batteries (they're all made in China, anyway). Why pay $40 for one battery at Sprint when you can buy 6-8 from eBay for the same price. Just my 2 cents worth.......
I bought three aftermarket 1500s and an external charger (it was a single purchase) for about $11 with free shipping.
They're definitely cheap and they shipped from Hong Kong. They don't output their temperature or other information that is read by battery monitoring apps, but what I gained was definitely worth the price.
I haven't seen a difference in battery life between my stock battery and my aftermarket batteries. I've used sbc kernels with them without issues, though I rarely charge through the phone.
I couldn't justify spending 4 times the price or more for a replacement or extended battery. Just keep your batteries charged via an external charger & you'll never have to worry about plugging your phone in or cutting back to save battery life.
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Got 4 oem batteries for $21 shipped from seller "the_oem_spot"
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I would highly recomend seidio they are rated the best as far as listed mah verses actual mah . They sell them online and at bestbuy. Somewhere on this site is a link to a guy who tests a lot of China Japan batteries for actual mah and price per mah. I use seidio 3500 from bestbuy platinum but it cost 69.99. It has 30days warr but it takes almost that much time just to get the phone used to it. Also, its true that that mostly come from the same part of the world but the factory rates them on cell quality and price points them based on this factor. So i would argue that you get what you pay for.
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I agree with gentyle completely. I bought a seidio 3500mA battery and a replacement 1500mA from another company and I'll never go with anything else. The 3500 outperformed the others by 3 times even though it should technically have only a bit over doubled them.
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Bought a 3500 mA battery off ebay, for $15, it lasts the entire weekend with moderate use.
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Found this extended battery on ebay, was wondering if anyone on here has tried it, i know it looks hideous, but if you know your making a trip somewhere it could come in handy if it works the way its supposed to. Its cheap as hell too.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/14067375514...XX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2649#ht_781wt_1165
9 bucks... can't be too great,
but what can you lose? lol
Seems to me that if the larger aftermarket brands have trouble meeting the stated mAh rating on their batteries, what more of unbranded ones that goes for an even lower value?
I also still have very clear memory on exploding phones from third party batteries years ago
I bought a cheapo 3800mah and it lasts barely longer than my stock extended battery. I wish samsung made an official 3800mah version
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I bought a cheapo 3800mah and it lasts barely longer than my stock extended battery. I wish samsung made an official 3800mah version
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Buy 2 stock batteries and solder them together. Works great.
3500 real mah. I didn't think the 2000 extended batteries would fit under the cover from the Hyperion I had here. I agree though, if I can solder it up in an evening, Samsung certainly could work up something.
hopefully more phones in the future will be like the razr and give us a factory extended battery closer to 3000mah.
Razr maxx when I had it for a week was sick! Hard use all day, charged every other day, seriously insane battery life. If that phone ever gets bootloader unlocked, I would be all over it again.
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ttabbal said:
Buy 2 stock batteries and solder them together. Works great.
3500 real mah. I didn't think the 2000 extended batteries would fit under the cover from the Hyperion I had here. I agree though, if I can solder it up in an evening, Samsung certainly could work up something.
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Have you done this solder thing? Any tips?
if you look at the battery in the phone you can see that there is some space at the top of each terminal, use this space to solder a fine piece of copper wire to a second battery. make sure to solder the batteries in parallel, positive to positive and negative to negative, to retain the same voltage.
i remember taking apart a so called 3500mah battery from ebay and they were just two cheap 1500mah batteries tapped together. Apparently in china 1500X2 is 3500.
Why does everyone want extended batteries? 99% of people have access to a power cord most of the day and just don't need it. Granted, I'm new to the phone, but I really hope I don't need to carry around a huge battery or two. Personally I'd rather charge it more often. Just my own opinion.
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I bought a 3600 mAh extended battery for a few dollars on ebay. Despite the fact that it makes my phone look like a beached whale, it totally got rid of my power shortage anxiety. My most useful ebay purchase so far..
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neotekz said:
i remember taking apart a so called 3500mah battery from ebay and they were just two cheap 1500mah batteries tapped together. Apparently in china 1500X2 is 3500.
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Even If it's 1500 that's still 3000mah for less than $10. Pretty good deal.
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Even If it's 1500 that's still 3000mah for less than $10. Pretty good deal.
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they start loosing capacity after the first few charges and became unusable after 3-4 months.
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they start loosing capacity after the first few charges and became unusable after 3-4 months.
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As long as you know that I don't see a problem. Spend $10, use it for 6 months, buy another one. Much better than spending $100 for a mugen.
Even the Samsung batteries lose their capacity over time.
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Have you done this solder thing? Any tips?
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It needed more space than I felt OK taking up in someone else's thread.. So here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25115863
i bought 2 for the price of one plus came with a battery dock charger all for $20 delivered i thought i might aswell give it a go as cheap ass.But a day before receiving it i realised we had NFC in our battery which i didnt know and the batteries that i bought dont have NFC.
Can someone explain what nfc if used for and what will happen if use a battery without nfc?
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i bought 2 for the price of one plus came with a battery dock charger all for $20 delivered i thought i might aswell give it a go as cheap ass.But a day before receiving it i realised we had NFC in our battery which i didnt know and the batteries that i bought dont have NFC.
Can someone explain what nfc if used for and what will happen if use a battery without nfc?
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How about you start by telling us where you go these batteries? As for NFC, it stands for Near Field Communications. It can be used in a way to pay for items, or bumping phones together to share information, such as pictures, contacts, etc. I am not a fan of it, I always have it turned off in my phone settings.
NFC:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+nfc?
I dont know how these are i just received them but because of price i thought why not. so its up to you if you wish to buy them also here is the ebay link
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-3200m...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2a22debe70
btemtd said:
I dont know how these are i just received them but because of price i thought why not. so its up to you if you wish to buy them also here is the ebay link
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-3200m...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2a22debe70
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I bought a 2400mAh battery for my S2 for 5 bucks, yes, FIVE bucks. I was like well hey its cheap enough i wont care if it sucks. Well i got it, and after about 2 full charging cycles, it latest 28 freaking hours with 5 hours screen on time. I was like well 5 bucks was worth it!
So i might just get these as well
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I dont know how these are i just received them but because of price i thought why not. so its up to you if you wish to buy them also here is the ebay link
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-3200m...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2a22debe70
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Anybody else try these out?
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yeah i wish to know as well, seen these tonight on ebay and i will buy them but just wanted to see if anyone else has first. was gonna get the £6.99 single one first as a test. It does say on the sticker under the battery 2100mah so just wondering if running a 3200mah would be detrimental? or is it one of those things manufacturers do and have very large tolerances just to be on the safe side so as not have flaming s3 videos on youtube.
don't these cheap batteries pose a risk of leaking in the phone or something? Like what if the damage the phone!?
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don't these cheap batteries pose a risk of leaking in the phone or something? Like what if the damage the phone!?
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What, where did you hear that? The only thing I have seen people have to worry about with cheap batteries is how much of a charge they hold and how well they actually work. I have seen batteries malfunction due to ****ty car chargers before though but never just a battery fail while in a phone minus ghost stories from trolls on the internet.
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It does say on the sticker under the battery 2100mah so just wondering if running a 3200mah would be detrimental?
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mAh has nothing to do with the amount of current or voltage so I don't know what you mean by manufacturers having large tolerances?? And it wouldn't be detrimental, it would add to your battery life. (as long as the mAh claims are accurate)
Bought this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170920078533?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
these are surely too good to be true? 3200mah in a standard size?
yeah no need for a new back cover
Can anybody say something about how long does the phone works with this battery?
definitely need to get me one of these.
too good to be true
hey i just made some fast research on the seller of the item
i cant link the url apparently because i jus made the account but go ahead and check the ebay sellers' (utigertech) feedback. They are not good.
in short, this battery is fake and some user feedback states that it does not last even longer than the stock 2100mah samsung oem battery
so dont be fooled. If its too good to be true then its probably too good to be true
cheers boys
Testing of MPJ 3200mah Battery for S3
I have purchased one of the MPJ 3200 mah batteries for the Galaxy S3. I have bench tested the battery over 7 days with multiple charges and discharges.
The results are that the battery is approximately 2000 mah it does not even come close to 3200 mah. The sellor is being misleading on the mah and you are better off buying a standard battery as it has 2100 mah and NFC.
I will try and test a few more batteries in the next couple of weeks..
MPJ 3200 Mah battery review test galaxy s3
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I have purchased one of the MPJ 3200 mah batteries for the Galaxy S3. I have bench tested the battery over 7 days with multiple charges and discharges.
The results are that the battery is approximately 2000 mah it does not even come close to 3200 mah. The sellor is being misleading on the mah and you are better off buying a standard battery as it has 2100 mah and NFC.
I will try and test a few more batteries in the next couple of weeks..
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Thanks for running the tests. Aftermarket battery sellers are notorious for jacking up the mAh rating.
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Superfake, unless they've developed some new kind of technology. Don't think so though lol
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Superfake, unless they've developed some new kind of technology. Don't think so though lol
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Well I bought one and we will see what happens. Its only 12 bucks lol.
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I'm amazed that so many people get sucked in by these fake batteries. There is no battery technology out there that lets you increase the capacity without increasing the size.