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Innocell 1600mAh Slim Extended Life Battery

Available here! Who wants to try one first?

Me definitely! $50 seems like an awful lot to spend for an extra 200mAh though

I would but no money right now. Hey anything would be better off then the OEM 1300mAh =)

stock is 1400mha.

something tells me the stock battery have a higher capacity than those crooks using inferior cells while inflating the numbers.

greenstuffs said:
something tells me the stock battery have a higher capacity than those crooks using inferior cells while inflating the numbers.
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You are most definitely right I bought one if those for my G1 and it crapped out within a year. Your best bet is to take your chances with the cheap batteries on ebay. You can get ten of them for what one from Seidio charges you. No knock on Seidio.
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dunno where i saw it (somewhere here on xda prolly N1 forum) but some guys put every aftermarket battery for MANY phones up against HTC's stock batteries the astounding results:
NO aftermarket battery from ANY mfg. has EVER beaten HTC's stock battery...
(this is referring to batteries that fit in stock battery enclosure)

I agree after market battery might show higher numbers but not as good as the stocks ones

walabe25 said:
You are most definitely right I bought one if those for my G1 and it crapped out within a year. Your best bet is to take your chances with the cheap batteries on ebay. You can get ten of them for what one from Seidio charges you. No knock on Seidio.
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me 3 right under a year mine crapped out and it never seemed much better than my 2 year old htc it replaced.

I'm surprised, I've had good results with extended batteries. The one I got for my G1 did considerably better than stock. (8-9 hours versus 6 with OEM battery.)

I bought 2 1500mAh batteries with charger from ebay for less then $15 shipped. They last less then stock battery does (I kill stock battery in about 14 hours, the ones from ebay last me about 10-12 hours) but I always have charged spare battery now. Great investment IMHO, no way I would pay $50 for 1 battery, not even original HTC.

Hey Zoltair, What brand was the one you got that was better than stock???

Well I should hope that an extended battery would give you longer life then a stock...seeing as how its suppose to. I don't think that the problem is whether or not extended batteris last longer, because I would think if you bought an extended battery and it didint last longer then a smaller, stock battery..you would then return it...I think what people have problems with is getting what they pay for, price per mA and how much mA there really is...if your paying 50 dollars for a battery rated at 1400ma, your probably going to want all the mA you payed for...for example: (PURELY FOR SPECULATION, NOT REAL NNUMBERS) say you have a stock 500ma battery and you get like 4 hours out of it or whatever, and then you purchase an extended battery for 50bucks and its "rated" at 1000ma, yet you only get 6-7 hours out of it...? Then it would seem that it isn't truly rated at which they say it is... Then you get into how much certain companies value their own integrity, and how much they are going to inflate their own battery ratings to simply sell the product. Examples of this can be found on batteryboss.org ...This website obtains batteries and tests them, and you can see clearly, some companies inflate their ratings more than others... If you look at what the battery was rated at, and what exactly it tested at...they even break down price per mA...so if you paid 2dollars per mA for a 1500 rated battery and it tested at 1300..how much money are you losing? Purchasing an extended battery should be looked at like all consumer purchases, weight the pros and cons... and read reviews on companies, you can also seek alternatives such as previous post in this thread of having spare OEM batteries that cost 1/10th of an extended battery, yet they immediately doulbe your battery length..
Zoltair Wright said:
I'm surprised, I've had good results with extended batteries. The one I got for my G1 did considerably better than stock. (8-9 hours versus 6 with OEM battery.)
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No word yet on performance on this? Anybody get it? I don't want to go first, lol!

Well $49.99 for 1600mAh is high as hell and top of that from unknown source, might well as wait for Mugen power stock size. I hope whoever has this post data on it so we can see if its any good.

Got one of these for my N1. Definitely NOT worth the money. Don't notice any difference from the OEM.

HyperNode said:
Well $49.99 for 1600mAh is high as hell and top of that from unknown source, might well as wait for Mugen power stock size. I hope whoever has this post data on it so we can see if its any good.
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http://batteryboss.org/ <<< info about some mugen battery performance

Seidio Batteries

Is it just me or is something fishy going on...
Example:
DINC Battery 1750 mAh small battery fits stock phone.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi17hhrv.htm
TBolt Battery 1600 mAh small battery fits stock phone.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi16htmec.htm
Both batteries are the same size and the only difference is contact placement.
I think there is some false advertisement going on because they are calming one is 1600 mAh and the other is 1750 mAh... If the DINC battery is truthfully a 1750 mAh why not just sell it for the TBolt with the different contact placement?

kendive said:
Is it just me or is something fishy going on...
Example:
DINC Battery 1750 mAh small battery fits stock phone.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi17hhrv.htm
TBolt Battery 1600 mAh small battery fits stock phone.
http://www.seidioonline.com/product-p/basi16htmec.htm
Both batteries are the same size and the only difference is contact placement.
I think there is some false advertisement going on because they are calming one is 1600 mAh and the other is 1750 mAh... If the DINC battery is truthfully a 1750 mAh why not just sell it for the TBolt with the different contact placement?
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You can't tell by the pictures, but the Thunderbolt battery is not the same size.
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thunderbolt battery is different size like a few mm difference.

Has anybody gotten a hold of one of these?! Curious as to how they hold up.
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I don't trust mah ratings from aftermarket batteries. They are usually inflated numbers and frankly not worth the $25 increase over a stock battery just to gain an extra 200 mah. For the price of one of sedio's extended batteries you could buy two stock batteries. Just something to think about.

I got one and honestly it might be worse

I have used the Seidio batteries in my last 2 phones and have had great luck with them.
I have one coming for my TB, I will post results when I get it.
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uncjax said:
I got one and honestly it might be worse
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me too, about to complain and send back

You are better off buying the set of 3 with charger on eBay for 12 bucks.
Here is a comparison someone did with quite a few different batteries.
http://batteryboss.org/

They make great cases but that's about it. The batteries are a rip off.

gadget! said:
I have used the Seidio batteries in my last 2 phones and have had great luck with them.
I have one coming for my TB, I will post results when I get it.
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I'm waiting on the 1600 seidio battery myself. hopefully it comes tomorrow.

loztboy said:
They make great cases but that's about it. The batteries are a rip off.
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I agree. I don't buy them anymore...

I bought one and will let you guys know how it goes. A coworker of mine has been searching, and I guess a bunch of people on Droidforums have had great success (30+ hours with moderate-heavy usage). I just got mine fully charged last night, so I will let you know after I run it out.

good im waiting for the same battery anything can be better than the current battery

i just got my new 1600 battery.
quick question should i kill the battery first then charge it, or should i charge it right away.

typically say charge first, over charge, after it's full bump it and let it sit for 2 more hours. So the battery companies say.

ok il definitely do that
ever since i was little i always have killed the battery to 0 then charged it fully
just something someone told me as a kid, but i didn't know if it applied to new better phones

ordered one of the 1600 batteries also from amazon, will let you know how it goes when i get my thunderbolt and this battery from amazon

Pithism said:
ok il definitely do that
ever since i was little i always have killed the battery to 0 then charged it fully
just something someone told me as a kid, but i didn't know if it applied to new better phones
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If it is a li-ion battery discharging it all the way to 0 isn't a good thing.

FYI Dinc batteries are physically larger than mytouch4g/tbolt batteries. Hence the bigger maH ratings.

Do yourself a favor guys....

Stop the debacle and concern on whether or not the 1700mah, 1600mah 1500mah blah blah blah batteries are better than stock.. I have a LOT of experience with Li-Po and Li-Ion batteries (cell phones use Li-Ion technology) and I can tell you WITHOUT a doubt that all these knock off companies are full of SH^* trying to say there batteries are of a higher capacity than the stock battery while staying the same size. Although it is possible to cram more mah into the same size package with li-ion batteries it is VERY unlikely to be able to do so with the current technology out right now. Most of these companies rate their mah on a different scale and actually will pull the battery to a lower voltage to justify their claims when it dosent matter because cell phones have a safety feature that has to shut the phone down at the specified voltage to prevent fires. Yes fires, Li-Ion has a fire risk if it is depleted all the way, not the same risk as a Li-Po battery but a risk just the same. HTC has a separate department that deals specifically with batteries and I can assure you they know and use the most up-to-date batteries they can get their hands on for these devices. There is nothing for them to gain by using inferior batteries in our phone. Those that have purchased the seidio 1600 extended battery and claim to have a better life on the phone are under a placebo effect. If you are just purchasing this "Extended" battery as a spare than buy all means go right ahead but dont expect a miraculous two hours extra from it because it is of lesser quality than the stock battery. I have hundreds of dollars in battery testing and logging equipment and If you guys dont believe me i will run some tests on the stock vs. whichever battery you'd like me too and post the data for all to see, but Ive been down this road before with htc phones and have always come up with the same conclusion......The aftermarket "Extended" batteries actually have less mah's than their stock counterparts.
Of course Im not referring to the htc extended battery in this post, its obviously pushing more mah's with its monstrous size, lol.
....just sayin..

Oh' and to elaborate because Ive also read some concerns over the length of time for charging the thunderbolt (which does seem lengthy I will admit).
Since our phone has such a hard time time keeping up with a normal days use I believe what htc has done is given the battery a longer "saturation charge" for the battery to completely charge before it completes the charge cycle.
Li-ion batteries are charged on a 3 cycle charge system and stage two is what is considered the saturation cycle where the battery may sit at a relatively static voltage for a period of time to saturate the cells with current to top off the charge, some cell phones skimp on this step to give the phone a fast charge time which is termed "charge-and-run" and people assume the device has been adequately charged when it has not. For an adequate "FULL" charge without harming the battery or affecting battery life, typically li-ion batteries take approx. 3-4 hours.

So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?

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So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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No. The two I bought for $44 are. How much do oem batteries cost?
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I wouldnt go that far, I doubt any of the batteries are "paperweights" yet. Im just making the point that the claims of higher capacity are unfounded and the cheap knock-offs are of lesser quality. Also check where the batteries are made. Good quality Li-ion cells come from Japan.
One thing to note with the cheapies is the temp while charging or under heavy use. Get a temp monitor app and compare between the stock and your aftermarket batteries, they will probably run hotter. Unfortunately I dont have any other batteries to test for you guys other than the stock OEM battery otherwise I would. If I pick any up Ill cycle the stock vs. aftermarket and post the data log between the two.
Also I didnt mean the "fire" comment to worry anyone, Li-ion batteries have protection curcuit that will render the battery useless and unserviceable if the cell reaches a voltage of 2.70v or lower which is where the chemistry of li-ion becomes unstable.

I'll ship your one of the two 1700 when I get it if you wanna test it and post results. Just ask that you ship it back after your done.
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good info, thanks!

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So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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ha, I bought the same ones you did.
I didn't expect them to be as good as the 1400 mAh battery that comes with the phone. I just wanted to have a spare battery available in case I'm traveling and watching movies or something (on a plane). Even though it says it's 1500 mAh, I expect them to be more around 1200 - 1400 mAh.

Check this website for some information on similar battery testing.
http://batteryboss.org/
I used their results when I purchased the Seido 3500 for my Evo.

I've used Chinese batteries every chance I get. They do work. From an Eris to the Dinc. 3500mah. Never had a problem. Emails and games etc. I bought the extended battery along with the Tbolt. Just don't like the hump on the back. I'm on eBay every night waiting for the Chinese to strike with a extended battery. At least a Better extended back cover. For $10.99 free shipping ill wait 2 weeks for it. F%$% what u heard their cheap batteries work.
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Every cheap battery I have ever used has worked great.... for 2 weeks.

reg83ny said:
For $10.99 free shipping ill wait 2 weeks for it. F%$% what u heard their cheap batteries work.
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lol thats hilarious

1234567188 said:
So the 3 batteries I got for 12$ on ebay ARE paperweights?
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ddgarcia05 said:
No. The two I bought for $44 are. How much do oem batteries cost?
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This was the best part of the thread.

Awwz.... Well I DO know of one way.... connect a bunch of AA batteries in parallel, bust out a dremel, and create a frankenbattery!

ddgarcia05 said:
I'll ship your one of the two 1700 when I get it if you wanna test it and post results. Just ask that you ship it back after your done.
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I appreciate it bro, but Id rather not be responsible for someone elses battery lol. Im sure Ill get bored soon enough and order up the batts then do some tests just for shi^s and giggles...

firedude12 said:
I appreciate it bro, but Id rather not be responsible for someone elses battery lol. Im sure Ill get bored soon enough and order up the batts then do some tests just for shi^s and giggles...
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If you do I recommend you buy the 1500 MyTouch4G batteries from ChiChi's htcexpress or their store on amazon. They should be the same a the 1700 Thunderbolt batteries and $20 cheaper.

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Check this website for some information on similar battery testing.
http://batteryboss.org/
I used their results when I purchased the Seido 3500 for my Evo.
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When I get around to ordering up the batteries Ill post a chart like that on a seperate thread for our phone. I have some pretty sophisticated logging equipment. It shows the temp, charge capacity, voltage, mah, cell balance and health in an easy to read graph.
Im not a battery nerd but I used to be into RC helicopters BIG time and when you have a $5000.00 helicopter that can kill someone its just normal practice to have the equipment to check your $800 batteries so they dont fail 80 feet in the air and blow up or decapitate someone, lol

Heres a video of one of my helicopters (Trex 700 electric) , this one uses two 6s 5000mah li-po batteries and each one costs over $300 and they only last 8 minutes before there dead The video isnt of me however, I need a video camera to post mine but the helicopter is identical for the most part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANsH5FZq6XA

(speaking from g1, nexus, and g2 experience only)
i've bought extended batteries for phones for less than $15 each all in the 2400 to 3600 mah range. they last 2-3 days with normal use. the oldest one is 3 years old (g1) and still performs like new.
iirc the seller was based in hongkong.
just saying.

the htc extended battery
personally of all the batteries i have tried this is by far the best one until sedio has an 3500mah then i will be getting that i think

Higher capacity batteries and performance

So im waiting for my Gnex to be delivered, and meanwhile i cant help myself but to look for all sorts of stuff for it, be it roms or accessories.
One thing i stumbled upon was this battery :
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-2300m...EXUS-PRIME-i9250-/190620223411#ht_3468wt_1396
Now it's a 2300 mAh battery, but it is supposedly not any larger than the original which strikes me quite odd..
Especially since the 2k mAh battery comes with a custom backpane because of the added size.
So, are these noname chinese batteries a scam? My spider-sense is ringing all over but i'd love some confirmation.

Scam. You aren't going to do much better than OEM for size vs. mAH. If a fleabay company is advertising a battery that's the same size of factory with LOTS more juice, they are full of it---especially when it's only $5.

They are kinda hit or miss. I have had some that are good and some that are a bust. They are ALWAYS rated higher than what they actually are though. At least you will have a spare to carry around. Sometimes they will come with a charger that allows you to plug it into the wall and charge your spare battery. I would look for one like that. That way you can charge your spare battery and carry it with you in case you need it.

SKYLINESSUCK said:
Scam. You aren't going to do much better than OEM for size vs. mAH. If a fleabay company is advertising a battery that's the same size of factory with LOTS more juice, they are full of it---especially when it's only $5.
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Thanks, ill just stick to the official 2k mAh battery instead.

SKYLINESSUCK said:
Scam. You aren't going to do much better than OEM for size vs. mAH. If a fleabay company is advertising a battery that's the same size of factory with LOTS more juice, they are full of it---especially when it's only $5.
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Where can I find this I looked in eBay but they are around 40$
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snab321 said:
Where can I find this I looked in eBay but they are around 40$
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try the first post.

MPJ 3200MAH Slim as original

i bought 2 for the price of one plus came with a battery dock charger all for $20 delivered i thought i might aswell give it a go as cheap ass.But a day before receiving it i realised we had NFC in our battery which i didnt know and the batteries that i bought dont have NFC.
Can someone explain what nfc if used for and what will happen if use a battery without nfc?

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i bought 2 for the price of one plus came with a battery dock charger all for $20 delivered i thought i might aswell give it a go as cheap ass.But a day before receiving it i realised we had NFC in our battery which i didnt know and the batteries that i bought dont have NFC.
Can someone explain what nfc if used for and what will happen if use a battery without nfc?
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How about you start by telling us where you go these batteries? As for NFC, it stands for Near Field Communications. It can be used in a way to pay for items, or bumping phones together to share information, such as pictures, contacts, etc. I am not a fan of it, I always have it turned off in my phone settings.
NFC:
http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+nfc?

I dont know how these are i just received them but because of price i thought why not. so its up to you if you wish to buy them also here is the ebay link
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-3200m...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2a22debe70

btemtd said:
I dont know how these are i just received them but because of price i thought why not. so its up to you if you wish to buy them also here is the ebay link
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-3200m...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2a22debe70
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I bought a 2400mAh battery for my S2 for 5 bucks, yes, FIVE bucks. I was like well hey its cheap enough i wont care if it sucks. Well i got it, and after about 2 full charging cycles, it latest 28 freaking hours with 5 hours screen on time. I was like well 5 bucks was worth it!
So i might just get these as well

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I dont know how these are i just received them but because of price i thought why not. so its up to you if you wish to buy them also here is the ebay link
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2x-3200m...AU_MobilePhoneAccessories&hash=item2a22debe70
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Anybody else try these out?
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yeah i wish to know as well, seen these tonight on ebay and i will buy them but just wanted to see if anyone else has first. was gonna get the £6.99 single one first as a test. It does say on the sticker under the battery 2100mah so just wondering if running a 3200mah would be detrimental? or is it one of those things manufacturers do and have very large tolerances just to be on the safe side so as not have flaming s3 videos on youtube.

don't these cheap batteries pose a risk of leaking in the phone or something? Like what if the damage the phone!?

ronak_1078 said:
don't these cheap batteries pose a risk of leaking in the phone or something? Like what if the damage the phone!?
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What, where did you hear that? The only thing I have seen people have to worry about with cheap batteries is how much of a charge they hold and how well they actually work. I have seen batteries malfunction due to ****ty car chargers before though but never just a battery fail while in a phone minus ghost stories from trolls on the internet.

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It does say on the sticker under the battery 2100mah so just wondering if running a 3200mah would be detrimental?
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mAh has nothing to do with the amount of current or voltage so I don't know what you mean by manufacturers having large tolerances?? And it wouldn't be detrimental, it would add to your battery life. (as long as the mAh claims are accurate)

Bought this.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/170920078533?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

these are surely too good to be true? 3200mah in a standard size?

yeah no need for a new back cover

Can anybody say something about how long does the phone works with this battery?

definitely need to get me one of these.

too good to be true
hey i just made some fast research on the seller of the item
i cant link the url apparently because i jus made the account but go ahead and check the ebay sellers' (utigertech) feedback. They are not good.
in short, this battery is fake and some user feedback states that it does not last even longer than the stock 2100mah samsung oem battery
so dont be fooled. If its too good to be true then its probably too good to be true
cheers boys

Testing of MPJ 3200mah Battery for S3
I have purchased one of the MPJ 3200 mah batteries for the Galaxy S3. I have bench tested the battery over 7 days with multiple charges and discharges.
The results are that the battery is approximately 2000 mah it does not even come close to 3200 mah. The sellor is being misleading on the mah and you are better off buying a standard battery as it has 2100 mah and NFC.
I will try and test a few more batteries in the next couple of weeks..
MPJ 3200 Mah battery review test galaxy s3

mickey2foot said:
I have purchased one of the MPJ 3200 mah batteries for the Galaxy S3. I have bench tested the battery over 7 days with multiple charges and discharges.
The results are that the battery is approximately 2000 mah it does not even come close to 3200 mah. The sellor is being misleading on the mah and you are better off buying a standard battery as it has 2100 mah and NFC.
I will try and test a few more batteries in the next couple of weeks..
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Thanks for running the tests. Aftermarket battery sellers are notorious for jacking up the mAh rating.
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Superfake, unless they've developed some new kind of technology. Don't think so though lol

herbivoor said:
Superfake, unless they've developed some new kind of technology. Don't think so though lol
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Well I bought one and we will see what happens. Its only 12 bucks lol.
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I'm amazed that so many people get sucked in by these fake batteries. There is no battery technology out there that lets you increase the capacity without increasing the size.