I recently switched from Sprint to Tmobile, both carriers version of the SGS2, and noticed a startling difference in graphics performance between the two versions, most easily witnessed whilst playing the game Doodle Jump. Mind you this is not a graphics intense game, but the Tmo version of this phone just cannot handle it. My gf has the same exact phone and gets the same results. Is the graphics capabilities with the snapdragon processors that much worse vs the original processors used in all other variants of the SGS2??
Umm...i have DJ installed now to see what your complaining about. I see ZERO lag. The graphics are pixelated, I can only assume it's because of the MASSIVE screen and the program not being optimized for it.
bighulk666 said:
Umm...i have DJ installed now to see what your complaining about. I see ZERO lag. The graphics are pixelated, I can only assume it's because of the MASSIVE screen and the program not being optimized for it.
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Pixilated graphics is just the start...once you get going the jitteryness and choppyness is overwhelming. Screen size would be an excuse....if the Sprint version had the same issues, which it does not, it plays the game flawlessly, and has the same 4.52" screen.
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Pixilated graphics is just the start...once you get going the jitteryness and choppyness is overwhelming. Screen size would be an excuse....if the Sprint version had the same issues, which it does not, it plays the game flawlessly, and has the same 4.52" screen.
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If your your just looking to play Doodle Jump.. then go buy an iPhone, you'll be happy. Or, return your phone, and get an amaze. God forbid you play other games.. whos knows what will happen.
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If your your just looking to play Doodle Jump.. then go buy an iPhone, you'll be happy. Or, return your phone, and get an amaze. God forbid you play other games.. whos knows what will happen.
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Lol, I knew these responses were coming...but still, why the hell can't a phone of this magnitude handle such a tiny game??? I think Samsung needs to be aware of such Epic shortcomings with such a bad ass phone otherwise. I was literally shocked at what my eyes were witnessing, it's really that bad, you can't deny it, unfortunately :-(
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Lol, I knew these responses were coming...but still, why the hell can't a phone of this magnitude handle such a tiny game??? I think Samsung needs to be aware of such Epic shortcomings with such a bad ass phone otherwise. I was literally shocked at what my eyes were witnessing, it's really that bad, you can't deny it, unfortunately :-(
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Stop asking why, and just return the phone. People really find any reason to complain.
Matt -- HB Cali said:
Lol, I knew these responses were coming...but still, why the hell can't a phone of this magnitude handle such a tiny game??? I think Samsung needs to be aware of such Epic shortcomings with such a bad ass phone otherwise. I was literally shocked at what my eyes were witnessing, it's really that bad, you can't deny it, unfortunately :-(
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Just downloaded that game after i saw youre post to make sure and it plays flawlessly on mine no lag what so ever ima thinking you just might be trolling here every comment youve made about the beast has been unconfirmed garbage ...
bighulk666 said:
Umm...i have DJ installed now to see what your complaining about. I see ZERO lag. The graphics are pixelated, I can only assume it's because of the MASSIVE screen and the program not being optimized for it.
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For what it's worth, Doodle Jump looks TERRIBLE on the Sensation, and that's with the higher resolution, so it's not an issue of too low a resolution. I think DJ just has issues displaying properly.
Honestly.. unless the game looks AMAZING and graphics intensive you can put the blame on the game itself not having optimization for our graphics processor.
I just played DJ and it does feels like it's in slow motion compared to my Nexus S. That said, I agree with the idea it's probably the games fault and not the phone. Every other game I've played on the SGS2 has worked flawlessly.
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Think people! The phone is flawless with Asphalt 6 graphics but stutters on Doodle Jump. Come on, Really
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this guy is not alone i posted the bad gpu many time playing city jump and gun bros it lags and on gun bros the controls get stuck i would never trade my phone in the point of saying that is maybe the devs can find away to fix these problems in the rom its not just the fact that games are not optimized for the phone because they are my brother has a dell streak and games work better on there so i no its the gpu my lock screen lags so hopfully the can be fixed in some roms
Moderators embarrassed...must delete this complaint lol
Ok, so this is the third thread I have posted about this shortcoming with Tmo's version of this phone....apparently the moderators are so sensitive to this issue all they can do is delete the thread, which is pretty damn pathetic if you ask me. Anyway, this Tmo version of theSGS2 is completely incapable of processing the simple game of Doodle Jump. Try it for yourself and see what happens... I'll keep reposting until it gets addressed.
You mean this thread?
your thread just got moved....
Maybe the game needs an update because of our hardware or screen size? I'd say that's more likely the problem.
Wow. All this for a game. The phone must be crap and you should return it.
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Ok, so this is the third thread I have posted about this shortcoming with Tmo's version of this phone....apparently the moderators are so sensitive to this issue all they can do is delete the thread, which is pretty damn pathetic if you ask me. Anyway, this Tmo version of theSGS2 is completely incapable of processing the simple game of Doodle Jump. Try it for yourself and see what happens... I'll keep reposting until it gets addressed.
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The issue won't get addressed if you post here. You have to post to the dev of the app you are having the issue with. As new hardware comes out there will always be this issue of incompatibility until the dev optimize their apps to work on the newer hardware. This issue is nothing new with Android and I think ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) should also help fix this issue.
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The issue won't get addressed if you post here. You have to post to the dev of the app you are having the issue with. As new hardware comes out there will always be this issue of incompatibility until the dev optimize their apps to work on the newer hardware. This issue is nothing new with Android and I think ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) should also help fix this issue.
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The issue won't get addressed if you post here. You have to post to the dev of the app you are having the issue with. As new hardware comes out there will always be this issue of incompatibility until the dev optimize their apps to work on the newer hardware. This issue is nothing new with Android and I think ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich) should also help fix this issue.
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There is nothing new about the hardware in this phone, including the GPU -- it's been out and in use for some time.
OP: you're going to get a lot of hysterical fanboy trolling about how their phone is "completely fine" and "lag free." That's the nature of this particular forum. The real issue is that Samsung released this phone with zero optimization and compared to the other SGS2 models, this one is a complete joke in terms of performance -- except with respect to data speed.
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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it. Yeah yeah I know some peeps would say we don't need 60fps, but hell for me even if I only get 40fps with nova hack, things seem so much smoother.
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Yeah, I'm pissed off with my EVO! or I should say HTC!!! I've emailed them about 3 times now and still no reply in regards to the 30 frame rates per second cap. I'm going to wait until the 3rd of July and return my evo and wait for the sprint samsung galaxy version... i read there's going to be 2 versions, a pro with the qwerty and a keyboard less. Also i read the processor in it is identical to that of the iphone 4. This is bull HTC, i expected the best from the evo until the 2nd day i had my evo and saw my palm pre plays 3d games 10 times better than the evo.
I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
take the phone back jump to Verizon and move on SIMPLE !
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Man so I just saw a video review of Droid X over Android Central and the Moto X got 60fps out of the box without any hacks. But with HTC the devs gotta hack it.
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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Because ONE "flaw" with ONE phone (which is, by the the way, the FIRST batch of the FIRST generation of this phone) obviously means the company as a whole is just garbage?
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One phone? Uhhh.......
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One phone? Uhhh.......
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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yes, this is the EVO 4G forum. When I say one phone I think it's implied I'm talking about the model as a whole.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
IMO the grass is not greener at Samsung. I have had the i760 and the Moment and each time I swapped them for the HTC equivilent at the time.
Every device has issues, but at least HTC hacks are much easier to come by...the evidence is in the size of the XDA forums.
The only thing I like better about Samsung is that the hardware is less flimsey, but HTC has gotten better at it over the last year.
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You emphasized one phone as if meaning to say that HTC hasn't ****ed up on just about every other phone they've ever put out as well...
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I emphasized "one" phone because when you translate his post to English, the rant is:
The entire company "HTC" is crap as a whole because one of their phones has a 30fps cap on graphics.
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...which is obviously untrue.
Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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Guys, we know that the cap is software imposed. It can be fixed. Sure, HTC screwed up by imposing a 30FPS cap, but nothing matches the QQing the iPhone 4 users are making right now. (Seriously, glass back and front? Antennae shorting?)
Basically, the cap will be broken completely soon. It is HTC's fault they imposed such a dumb cap in the first place, but calling the company crap because of that is kind of uncalled for.
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+1 exactly my point.
OP, play with an evo for a few minutes and then try to say that the (temporary) 30fps cap really makes a difference to the overall experience of the device.
Just go buy the droid x and don't spend your precious time here to tell us how you hate HTC and the EVO because you have so much experience with the Droid X to says its so much better.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.
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Samsung has pledged to focus more on their Android devices so I would imagine that their past issues with not updating will be resolved...
I'm really wanting the Galaxy S Pro... It takes every other Android phone to task.
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I'm actually waiting to see how thick the S Pro is. If it is pretty thin I might check it out, even though I will probably never use the hardware keyboard. The GPU alone looks to be kicking all kinds of ass.
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I feel what you guys are saying, but how many of us would have known about this issue so early on had it not been for the members here bringing it to our attention, I would have probably caught it later on and not so soon. And yes it is very snappy with the hack.
Also I'm pretty sure sprint is only getting the QWERTY flavored Galaxy S. Samsung also doesn't have a very good track record with keeping up with their devices on a timely fashion. I left MOMENT due to that and went HTC, not like sprint has an variety of big named devices anyway. I'm pretty sure emailing HTC at this point is a waste of time seeing as they already stated they capped it for *their* reasons. This isn't a problem for me since the devs are working on fixes even tho it isn't their job. I'm not an average user so tweaking and twiddling with my phone is all good for me. But I can see how to an average user this would be an issue if they even decide to care.
I really don't know how any of you guys expect to by any smart phone or gadget for that matter and have it work flawlessly without fault. I still can't get over people getting bent about some light warpage that you only see in dark areas but hey thats just me.
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You know, I bought this phone cash for 500 bucks... I'm a big gamer and would really like to play most of the 3d games gameloft has to offer and with the evo capped at 30 frp second, I'm **** out of luck! CALL IT WHAT YOU WANT, but i want my moneys worth and for the look HTC does not care to fix this issue. I just hope the galaxy s delivers where the evo failed to. And for the record, I bought ASPHAL 5 for my evo on the second day I owned it and IT PLAYS LIKE ****!!!! It did not have to come here to figure this out.
^Do you really need to post that twice?
I totally get that you want your monies worth, I mean who doesn't right? Also as stated we all would have figured it out sooner or later on our own about the caps one way or another. And yes I agree the cap is nonsense and we shouldn't just "make due" but if you bought the evo as a means for serious gaming I think you picked up the wrong device . But all In all I get everyone's point
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You're crap dude. Change your tampon.
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Oh snap! lol I'll be laughing about this remark til tomorrow.
Maybe its just me... but I'm becoming quite bored with my Evo. It doesn't matter what ROM I'm using, I am just getting over Android. Sure it boots fast... but my battery won't last even a full day with heavy usage and its tedious changing them all the time, the touchscreen is way too sensitive at times, and since FroYo, I've had way too many freezes and reboots to count.
I'm honestly ready to jump on the Torch or just go back to using my Bold 2... I could pound the hell out of my Bold 2 and it would still last a day and a half minimum, I rarely, if ever, had it freeze, and it did most things I needed it to.
Am I missing something here? Because Android is turning out to be pretty boring. I hate the fact that I can't have a full desktop replacement like I could on Windows Mobile, I rather dislike having to select one e-mail at a time to delete it, and the customization is just not there...
you had me until you said you'd go back to blackberry.
Boring? Bb may be the most boring thing ever
But yeah maybe android isn't for you if you think you can do most things on your bb.
I like mine still and gingerbread will make it more interesting.
That said it gets stale at times but so did iphone os and web os
All things do. Bb got stale 5 years ago
I said I'd go back to Blackberry for stability purposes... not because its not boring. Plus I wouldn't have to buy another phone... I already own a Curve 8330 I can use on Sprint and my 9700 is on ATT.
Its either that or back to the Mogul or Touch Pro 2... I'd rather shoot myself.
I guess for me it would be more useful if I had a hardware keyboard...
EDIT: I guess I was expecting more... You know full flash is great and all... but without proper 3D acceleration it runs like ****. Same goes for the games on the Evo. 43FPS on Antigen? Are you kidding me? The Evo should absolutely SPANK that game...
Dude, if you like stability, unroot your phone and use stock 2.2. Stock = Stability. Period. Also, how does one get "bored" with a phone? As far as I'm concerned it's a tool you use to make calls, browse web, send texts, etc. Do you ever get "bored" with your laptop or your tv because it does what it's supposed to do? Please.
I hear you and don't totally disagree
Android platform is still young
Maybe windows phone 7 can bring something new along but I doubt our as they are blatantly copying iphone os 3
Its tough to keep pace nowadays with users demands for new stuff. I include myself as one of those users
As far as bb I was questioning why you'd buy the torch but if you are saying just a phone you already have that's a different story
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Dude, if you like stability, unroot your phone and use stock 2.2. Stock = Stability. Period. Also, how does one get "bored" with a phone? As far as I'm concerned it's a tool you use to make calls, browse web, send texts, etc. Do you ever get "bored" with your laptop or your tv because it does what it's supposed to do? Please.
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I do get bored with my TV thanks and my laptop and my desktop can both be upgraded to extend its capabilities. I run multiple operating systems on both machines.
And stock isn't stable. I've seen people ***** about stock just as much, if not more, than rooted. FroYo is just trash.
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I hear you and don't totally disagree
Android platform is still young
Maybe windows phone 7 can bring something new along but I doubt our as they are blatantly copying iphone os 3
Its tough to keep pace nowadays with users demands for new stuff. I include myself as one of those users
As far as bb I was questioning why you'd buy the torch but if you are saying just a phone you already have that's a different story
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I don't have high expectations for WP7. I would love to be proven wrong but I don't even enjoy that particular interface on my Zune...
The Torch is something new and it fixes the main *****es that I had about BlackBerry - boot times and the web browser. Plus ATT offered it to me for 214 even though I only became a customer in January.
On the same token though I think its absolutely appalling that RIM is using the same 624MHz processor that my Bold 2 has and the Bold before it did as well so that would definitely factor into my decision to most likely not purchase the device.
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I do get bored with my TV thanks and my laptop and my desktop can both be upgraded to extend its capabilities. I run multiple operating systems on both machines.
And stock isn't stable. I've seen people ***** about stock just as much, if not more, than rooted. FroYo is just trash.
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Lol I do get ya man I also get bored with my gadgets
Just a nature of the beast
I tried iphone 4 and was bored after a week
Android is new completely to me so I'm still having fun with roms and kernels, oh my
But I'm sure I'll get bored at some point I just hope gingerbread is out by then
I've not had stability issues though barring some mistakes I made as I learned how to properly flash roms
If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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The market definitely sucks
Have you tried app brain
It haas helped me find cool apps more than the market
App Brain?
No I haven't ever even heard of it.
I'm waiting for some real games to come to android too but I'm not that in need since I have my ipad for gaming not to mention my itouch
I do want facebook connected scrabble for android though and bejeweled blitz also with fb connect would alleviate these horrible games I see for android
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If I can hold on til Gingerbread (provided the Evo has the horsepower to run it considering it has no dedicated graphics processor and Gingerbread recommends it) I might be fine... I guess one of the biggest annoyances for me is the difficulty in finding apps. The Market is a huge mess. On my berry, I search appworld for a term and it searches the description as well plus gives me options to organize by price, popularity, reviews, etc... Unless I am blind, there is no way I can do this with the Market...
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The Evo does have a dedicated graphics processor. In fact, the adreno GPU is quite capable for a mobile device. Games just need to be re-written to support it (Nova is an example of this, it used to run like crap, now runs beautifully). Sure it's not as powerful as the SGX series, but it's certainly not that underpowered.
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App Brain?
No I haven't ever even heard of it.
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Find it in market and download it
Its an alternative app store same apps but more easier ways to find them
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Find it in market and download it
Its an alternative app store same apps but more easier ways to find them
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Thank you! THIS is what I was looking for! It uploaded my list of installed apps and recommended new apps to me based on that. FANTASTIC!
I wish they had rep here because I would totally give you rep for that!
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Thank you! THIS is what I was looking for! It uploaded my list of installed apps and recommended new apps to me based on that. FANTASTIC!
I wish they had rep here because I would totally give you rep for that!
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Your welcome and I'm glad to pass on the recommends I myself received when I first got my evo
Its not a flawless app but it beats the heck out of the stock market app
And yeah thee sync feature is sweet
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Your welcome and I'm glad to pass on the recommends I myself received when I first got my evo
Its not a flawless app but it beats the heck out of the stock market app
And yeah thee sync feature is sweet
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I just installed like 20 apps I didn't even know existed - like StumbleUpon, for example, which is apparently a brand new app (less than 50 downloads)
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I just installed like 20 apps I didn't even know existed - like StumbleUpon, for example, which is apparently a brand new app (less than 50 downloads)
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Hope this improves your android experience
The community around thee android platform had really impressed me
Especially on this board!
I honestly don't see how you could possibly get bored... You have roms and kernels to last you days of flashing...
Like gambling? You can play Live Poker.
Like racing? You can play Asphalt
Like reading quotes, books and newspapers? theres an app for that.
Like porn? well who doesn't? There is even an app for that.
Craving some super mario or final fantasy? You have emulators.
Like listening to music? You have pandora and a bunch of other radios...
WTF MORE COULD YOU POSSIBLY WANT? Some people are just never satisfied.
like honestly...I just don't get it. If your having trouble finding a stable Rom try evios latest and use one of kings kernel. Im easily getting 15 hours on a single charge with moderate-heavy usage.
P.S the latest app thats been keeping me busy is Akinator. That sht is crazy!!! the first time I used it I literally dropped my phone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z_PcEW8Jxs
U complained that ur phone was choppy when u hard booted it and now with angry birds. U need to take ur phone back! I've been playing r-type non-stop and it has no lag or choppiness and that game has more active things on screen at once more then angry birds, it plays so beautifully on this phone!
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I haven't tried angry birds yet, but my home button is laggy like that... I haven't hard reset the phone though...
I just tried Angry Birds and it seems to play well. It doesn't have the zip at the beginning of a stage like the other phone had in your example, but it feels normal to me.
The home button "lag" is present on mine but that feels normal as well.
Is anyone using another launcher? Is the lag present with the home button? I'm still using touchwiz.
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I'm using Launcher Pro and that is really fast. Still a little lag when opening apps like Gmail and stuff like that but getting around the phone is still really fast. And opening the gallery is really fast too.
Try Launcher pro its fast! Plus you can still use the samsung widgets.
Hope this helps!
Same here I'm running adw ex and I experience virtually no lag
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Stock launcher with no lag and angry birds plays fine.
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I think this guy works for Apple and is just trying to sabotage sales! Lol.
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I think most are trolls. I play angry birds fine. I hope people know because it's a different processor they automatically look for problems. The exynos processor is only excels in its gpu department. My rooted my touch 4g on miui doesn't even lag. Launcher pro hasn't been updated since gingerbread causing lag of app drawer and when accessing apps. The reason why home button lags is because samsung set so many combinations for the home button. It was most likely programmed bad.
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I think most are trolls.
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Yeah, that's what I do for living... because Samsung would never manufacture a defective phone, right?
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I think this guy works for Apple and is just trying to sabotage sales! Lol.
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Bingo! That's why I sold my iPhone 4 last year and bought myTouch 4g... This is what we Apple spies do. We also get ****ed over flawless G2X phones that have no lag and play Angry Birds just fine. And than we wait for October 10th to pre-order an amazing Galaxy S II just for one simple reason: sabotage it!
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Bingo! That's why I sold my iPhone 4 last year and bought myTouch 4g... This is what we Apple spies do. We also get ****ed over flawless G2X phones that have no lag and play Angry Birds just fine. And than we wait for October 10th to pre-order an amazing Galaxy S II just for one simple reason: sabotage it!
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LOL
Seriously though, go exchange it and see if the problem still exists. Mines fine dude, honestly.
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Seriously though, go exchange it and see if the problem still exists. Mines fine dude, honestly.
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I second this definitely. Is this your first SGSII or did you already exchange for this one? I think you stated this already but I can't remember.
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Bingo! That's why I sold my iPhone 4 last year and bought myTouch 4g... This is what we Apple spies do. We also get ****ed over flawless G2X phones that have no lag and play Angry Birds just fine. And than we wait for October 10th to pre-order an amazing Galaxy S II just for one simple reason: sabotage it!
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LOL
The_Biz said:
LOL
Seriously though, go exchange it and see if the problem still exists. Mines fine dude, honestly.
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I agree with THE biz exchange ur phone but i said that already
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Yeah, that's what I do for living... because Samsung would never manufacture a defective phone, right?
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I never said they did or did not you just have a defective device. If you don't like take it back. I never said your a troll either I said most people. I play R-type and angry birds just fine.
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I second this definitely. Is this your first SGSII or did you already exchange for this one? I think you stated this already but I can't remember.
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This is my second phone. The first one was a bit less laggy but was heavily affected by vertical lines. I'm not sure if I want to play this game (think G2X).
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This is my second phone. The first one was a bit less laggy but was heavily affected by vertical lines. I'm not sure if I want to play this game (think G2X).
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I think if you do go in to exchange it again explain the situation and then in store test it out for lag. Better yet if you know anyone that has the phone without this issue bring them along to have backup proof. It shouldn't lag like that, I'm testing out Rio just for you right now and it's smooth and flawless. Is there a way to check the processor speed (actual)? Because I have noticed worse battery life than a lot of other users, maybe it's running at a higher clock speed (or the actual rated one) and yours isn't? I know this sounds crazy but maybe it would be worth it to just check... I'm just trying to help you out
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I think if you do go in to exchange it again explain the situation and then in store test it out for lag. Better yet if you know anyone that has the phone without this issue bring them along to have backup proof. It shouldn't lag like that, I'm testing out Rio just for you right now and it's smooth and flawless. Is there a way to check the processor speed (actual)? Because I have noticed worse battery life than a lot of other users, maybe it's running at a higher clock speed (or the actual rated one) and yours isn't? I know this sounds crazy but maybe it would be worth it to just check... I'm just trying to help you out
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As I mentioned earlier TMo is great at exchanging new phones: no questions asked. It'not about that.
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Well I tried angry birds and it's super zippy... MUCH faster than my Desire ever was ; )
After doing some looking it seems the home button lag is due to the phone waiting a bit for a double-tap on the home key to start the voice command app.... so it's working as intended.
I'm still wondering why out of all three carriers this particular version was inside of a plexiglass box during their presentation at the end of August...
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I think the phone looks great, but since it has the different processor and the consensus seems to say it is bad, would it be better to get the htc amaze? I really like this one as its lighter and bigger screen. lack of camera button bothers me a bit but I guess I can live with that. but if its crappy dual core and not going to be much better than my single core epic 4g, that wouldn't be so great.
Processing horsepower is much higher than any single core phone. You can't even reliably run Firefox on a Hummingbird SoC, my Vibrant has issues with it on CM7 and when it's overclocked. Not so with any dual core Android phone.
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I think the phone looks great, but since it has the different processor and the consensus seems to say it is bad, would it be better to get the htc amaze? I really like this one as its lighter and bigger screen. lack of camera button bothers me a bit but I guess I can live with that. but if its crappy dual core and not going to be much better than my single core epic 4g, that wouldn't be so great.
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Fyi the Amaze and this both have the same exact processor and gpu. The processor on this phone isn't as great as the other Galaxy SII, but you'll never know the difference once this phone gets its software more optimized for the different processor we have. I advise you watch a few YouTube reviews, read user reviews on XDA and go in T-Mobile store to see which phone is the right choice for you.
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thanks for the info on the processor, so then this would likely be the one. what is the thought on this getting cyanogen or even ICS?
this is a big issue with the epic 4g since its so different from the other galaxy phones. I don't want to run into the issue again where i end up with the odd duck phone that doesn't get upgraded.
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thanks for the info on the processor, so then this would likely be the one. what is the thought on this getting cyanogen or even ICS?
this is a big issue with the epic 4g since its so different from the other galaxy phones. I don't want to run into the issue again where i end up with the odd duck phone that doesn't get upgraded.
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I think this phone would be a shoe in for Cyanogen mod especially since Cyanogen was hired by Samsung. As far as getting ICS officially I would think this phone should be one of the first Gingerbread running phone to receive the update. Would we get ICS unofficially? I definitely think so!!!
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I think this phone would be a shoe in for Cyanogen mod especially since Cyanogen was hired by Samsung. As far as getting ICS officially I would think this phone should be one of the first Gingerbread running phone to receive the update. Would we get ICS unofficially? I definitely think so!!!
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well my reference was to the fact that it uses a different processor then the main galaxy s 2. like with the epic 4g, it has the keyboard and wimax and is last for everything while the other galaxy phones are not still stuck on froyo.
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well my reference was to the fact that it uses a different processor then the main galaxy s 2. like with the epic 4g, it has the keyboard and wimax and is last for everything while the other galaxy phones are not still stuck on froyo.
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The chances of an official release of ICS on the T-Mobile Galaxy S II are very very good, the chances of a custom rom of ICS are about 99%
word of advice to the OP...don't even think about it, just buy the phone. Performance and battery life on this phone is amazing!
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word of advice to the OP...don't even think about it, just buy the phone. Performance and battery life on this phone is amazing!
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+100 to that
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Fyi the Amaze and this both have the same exact processor and gpu. The processor on this phone isn't as great as the other Galaxy SII, but you'll never know the difference once this phone gets its software more optimized for the different processor we have. I advise you watch a few YouTube reviews, read user reviews on XDA and go in T-Mobile store to see which phone is the right choice for you.
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Lawl, and who's going to do the optimizing? Samsung?
If anything, you'd need to wait for Samsung to write the proper drivers or properly polish the TW ui to include hardware acceleration based on the A8-architecture. Something which I am going to assume is not going to happen.
To the OP, buy the phone based on what it can do now and based on how you like it after having played with it in the store.
I strongly advise you buying into this phone or signing a 2-year contract based on the hopes of other users on this forum.
Remember that. Just because people think this is XDA doesn't mean that every single problem on the phone will somehow get miraculously fixed or improved upon by developers.
I've seen too many buying a phone based on what it COULD/SHOULD be and not what it was.
Hardware acceleration would be done by the GPU no?
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Hardware acceleration would be done by the GPU no?
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Yes it would be done as you seen in the game dead space only one worth mentioning. It wont lag when we have google new os on it because of hardware acceleration. It will be very little difference between our version and galaxy s2 variants.
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Lawl, and who's going to do the optimizing? Samsung?
If anything, you'd need to wait for Samsung to write the proper drivers or properly polish the TW ui to include hardware acceleration based on the A8-architecture. Something which I am going to assume is not going to happen.
To the OP, buy the phone based on what it can do now and based on how you like it after having played with it in the store.
I strongly advise you buying into this phone or signing a 2-year contract based on the hopes of other users on this forum.
Remember that. Just because people think this is XDA doesn't mean that every single problem on the phone will somehow get miraculously fixed or improved upon by developers.
I've seen too many buying a phone based on what it COULD/SHOULD be and not what it was.
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This guy is like a roach. Smh. Just annoying. Stop bashing this phone.
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Lawl, and who's going to do the optimizing? Samsung?
If anything, you'd need to wait for Samsung to write the proper drivers or properly polish the TW ui to include hardware acceleration based on the A8-architecture. Something which I am going to assume is not going to happen.
To the OP, buy the phone based on what it can do now and based on how you like it after having played with it in the store.
I strongly advise you buying into this phone or signing a 2-year contract based on the hopes of other users on this forum.
Remember that. Just because people think this is XDA doesn't mean that every single problem on the phone will somehow get miraculously fixed or improved upon by developers.
I've seen too many buying a phone based on what it COULD/SHOULD be and not what it was.
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Who ever is on xda most of the time relies on developers. Because it is to hard for them to learn it themselves. For optimization wait till google new os comes out so that way every phone with a dual core will basically be the same. Touchwiz may never be hardware accelerated till google releases source till ice cream. Its not a big deal you can run bunch of other variations of android. That will be hardware accelerated which are far superior to stock rom. By the time samsung gets touch wiz working fine on this phone.
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This guy is like a roach. Smh. Just annoying. Stop bashing this phone.
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He just wants a perfect phone that is all. He need something to take out his anger and it is this phone. He may not be satisfied with his purchase. Can't take it back so he is stuck with it. I would be pissed to if i was stuck with a phone i didn't want as well. Just ignore him. Xda becoming more and more like Engadget everyday. Nitpicking at everything.
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This guy is like a roach. Smh. Just annoying. Stop bashing this phone.
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As opposed to what? You? Hawking this phone in the Amaze forums?
Please, get over yourself. I'm sick of people like you trying to coax people into purchasing the phone based on POTENTIAL things that may or may not come.
I've seen this happen so many times when people in other sections of XDA get coaxed into getting a phone due to hopeful users who think that the phone will get all its problems fixed.
If you can't accept the technical facts, what are you doing on XDA? Preaching and selling hope and prayer for what the phone will be 3 months from now?
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Who ever is on xda most of the time relies on developers. Because it is to hard for them to learn it themselves. For optimization wait till google new os comes out so that way every phone with a dual core will basically be the same. Touchwiz may never be hardware accelerated till google releases source till ice cream. Its not a big deal you can run bunch of other variations of android. That will be hardware accelerated which are far superior to stock rom. By the time samsung gets touch wiz working fine on this phone.
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He just wants a perfect phone that is all. He need something to take out his anger and it is this phone. He may not be satisfied with his purchase. Can't take it back so he is stuck with it. I would be pissed to if i was stuck with a phone i didn't want as well. Just ignore him. Xda becoming more and more like Engadget everyday. Nitpicking at everything.
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I don't even own the phone. But please, be quick to pass judgment.
I've said numerous times that I am still planning to get this phone regardless of the drawbacks. However, I'm one to remain objective and not to hawk the phone like I have an oversupply of these phones in my warehouse.
I dont think hes out to just bash the phone, hes just pointing out its flaws (albeit in seemingly every thread lol).
This phone is amazing, easily the best phone ive ever had, but its still not perfect.
To the OP, this phone is head and shoulders better than the amaze. factor in the problems the amaze are having its an easy choice
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word of advice to the OP...don't even think about it, just buy the phone. Performance and battery life on this phone is amazing!
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Also you can't beat tmobiles data speed. Sprints 4g is maybe as fast as Tmobile 3g ....and that's a big maybe!
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PoisonWolf said:
As opposed to what? You? Hawking this phone in the Amaze forums?
Please, get over yourself. I'm sick of people like you trying to coax people into purchasing the phone based on POTENTIAL things that may or may not come.
I've seen this happen so many times when people in other sections of XDA get coaxed into getting a phone due to hopeful users who think that the phone will get all its problems fixed.
If you can't accept the technical facts, what are you doing on XDA? Preaching and selling hope and prayer for what the phone will be 3 months from now?
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I don't even own the phone. But please, be quick to pass judgment.
I've said numerous times that I am still planning to get this phone regardless of the drawbacks. However, I'm one to remain objective and not to hawk the phone like I have an oversupply of these phones in my warehouse.
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Why would you even consider purchasing this phone knowing how "slow" the processor is compared to the Exynos? You lost me with that one. Maybe you should wait for something better to come out.
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I dont think hes out to just bash the phone, hes just pointing out its flaws (albeit in seemingly every thread lol).
This phone is amazing, easily the best phone ive ever had, but its still not perfect.
To the OP, this phone is head and shoulders better than the amaze. factor in the problems the amaze are having its an easy choice
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You shouldn't say that. I think he's an Amaze owner.
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Why would you even consider purchasing this phone knowing how "slow" the processor is compared to the Exynos? You lost me with that one. Maybe you should wait for something better to come out.
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I still love the phone despite knowing these technical drawbacks. I just know the limitations.I've played with them.
I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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I think its hiliarious but I have this friend who swears that his nexus is far better than my gs2. Yeah I have a slightly lower resolution but thats it. I have a proc that will oc to 1.86ghz, gpu that will oc up to what 320mhz. Oh wait I have an sd card slot whoot. He thinks that benchmarks dont tell the truth about a phone, well thats what they are made for to test, ram, cpu, graphics its all there. I guess you just cant convince everyone. It's funny because he says my phone is old and im not even using JB so that'll make it that much more quick when I upgrade. But what ev's
Just something to talk about, thought it was funny
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I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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I think this phone matches nexus easily in every aspect almost. Nexus is not better. This phone has great developers and there's nothing it can't do that the nexus can.
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Indeed.
Besides, the Nexus 4 thread is actually spammed with people having problems with the phone, phone "breaks" randomly in their pocket, pics of broken Nexus 4s, etc
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I gotta laugh at everyone that said the n4 blowwwwws the t989 out of the water in every way. Lol
First....go to the n4 forum and read the problems people are having.
Second ...a friend of mine got one...I played with it a bit. Severely unimpressed. Sure its speedy....but barely quicker than my t989. The display looks like crap compared to mine. And it simply seems fragile! Very!
I will hold on to my Hercules til it breaks or my contract ends and I feel like replacing it. Maybe. My phone does everything I want it too very well. So until phones will do my dishes and tune up my car....I'll maybe stick with what I got. Lol
As far as the n4 goes.....I doubt I'd even trade my phone for it. Actually ....no....I wouldn't.
Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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TOO FUNNY!!! LMAO......LET'S GET SOME MORE NOOBS IN HERE TO CRY SOME MORE.....PRICELESS!!!
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Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
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Galaxy S2 is a typical Samsung POS, the Nexus 4 is more akin in design to an iPhone. In other words, its insanely awesome
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lonz358 said:
Had a T989 but switched to Nexus 4 and believe me this phone is better in every way... screen, battery life, look and feel, great build quality, super fast and smooth, the two gigs of ram makes multitasking a joy, and I don't have to wait for xda developers to bring me the latest updates... all I can say is get you one
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!! Maybe a Lexus but not a Nexus!!!!
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Technical inferiority. It's sad that people have a right to have their own opinions. This thread is hilarious. Please, lets get some more xda noobs in here to cry some more.
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Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol
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lonz358 said:
Think I will ask Santa to bring me one.......NOT!!!
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:thumbup:
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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!
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Seriously though to each his own I like sg2 thats just my preference.. Some like htc and motorola phones to me most of them are ugly damn phones but just my opinion. You like what you want as long as your happy with it right? That"s all that counts in the end of the battle of the phones. I am happy with my hercules for now!!!
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+1. Well put!!
kj2112 said:
Lol. Where's your n4 then?
What a Dink! Lol
If XDA frowns upon opinions....let them say so....otherwise shhhhh. Wow!
P.s. the only crying I've seen in this thread is from you....crying about noobs and their inferior opinions. Lol
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I'm patiently waiting for shipping orders to finish. Then I'm selling this t989 and jumping ship back onto the Nexus. As far as what the guy up top said about development on the Nexus, clearly he's new to XDA. No phone has more dev support than the Nexus line does. In fact, much of your favorite AOSP roms were built and first released on Nexus devices. Not only that but Nexus devices always get Google's newest OS' first. The t989 doesn't even have full Jelly Bean GPU driver support.. you guys don't even know what project butter truly is yet.
Second, the t989s dual core s3/adreno 220 SoC cannot in anyway whatsoever compete with the quad s4 pro/adreno 320 SoC. You can clock this phone as high as you want and score 9000 on antutu and its still not enough to beat the 13,000 the s4 pro SoC averages.. and that's on stock builds.
Third, if you say the 720p IPS display isn't better than the 480p over saturated SAMOLED display on the t989, clearly you're either blind or couldn't tell a good display if one took a dump on your eyeballs. While blacks will never be as deep, color reproduction is much better on the Nexus 4. And if Voodoo follows suit like on the other Nexus devices, well be able to tweak and calibrate the screen to our will.
Battery life? Nexus 4 wins hands down. Build quality? The t989 looks like crap compared to the Nexus 4.
Working for T-Mobile, I've already played with about 4 Nexus 4s. They're beautiful devices. Super fast and smooth.
Now stop hating and come back to reality. This phone wasn't even better than the other GSIIs, let alone any flagship device released this year. We can all use the "my phone does everything well" excuse but frankly, so can my old single core Nexus S.
With that being said, you kids can continue making up all sorts of crazyness up in trying to justify your purchase over a brand new handset that's better in every conceivable way. It makes for some great comedy.
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Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!
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Don't take it so personal is all. No one was "crying" and some don't need the fastest phone on earth to be perfectly happy.
Seems the phone crowd has some min/maxers....which is fine ...their choice. I don't have a top of the line gaming computer either....my laptop "does what I want it to do" just fine. Just like my Hercules.
I will be keeping this phone for some time. I could buy an n4, or anything else for that matter, tomorrow .....but I feel no need to. That's me. Maybe not you.
Can't we all use whatever phone we want without the hate?
Read the n4 forum....many....many people saying the same things I said about the n4....I didnt make a call tho....so guess I missed out on hearing the buzzing everyone is excited about! Lol. Bottom line....for me.....never bought an LG product I was happy with.
Take care dude....guess you'll be off to live in the n4 forums!
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Well see, your opinion makes sense. I can dig that. Unfortunately that's not the OPs reasoning as he full out stated that the t989 is better. You can be happy with whatever device you want. You can't take that away from anyone. But facts are facts. And this device doesn't come anywhere close to a Nexus 4. That's all I'm saying.
Anyways this thread is troll bait. Someone close it lol
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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I won't. I haven't even dropped my t989 once in the 9 months I've had it. Don't jinx me though! And yea I told them to troll. This thread is troll bait. Thought it would make for a good show > haha
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Nice! Lol. Telling people in the n4 forum to come troll this thread!
Enjoy your n4....don't drop it 3 feet tho....heard bad things will happen! Lol
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Dropped it twice, waist high, No problems here seriously it's a phone with glass, just like the t989(don't think the t989 has gorilla glass 2 though) but if your not careful its going to break like every other phone.
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As a former T989 owner and a current nexus 4 owner, this thread makes me laugh (and I was running AOKP jellybean on mine). Don't get me wrong, I loved my hercules and it is still a great phone, but let's be realistic here. The nexus 4 is hands down a better device in almost every way possible.
Screen
The display is far from "carp". Yes, if you are used to AMOLED displays (like the one on the T989), you will initially find the colors to be "washed out". But in reality, this is because AMOLED screens have grossly over-saturated and unrealistic colors. The blacks are not as deep as AMOLED but they are damn close (again this is due to the nature of IPS displays). Nexus 4 screen is much much sharper, the whites are actually white (and not blue like the one on the T989) and colors are more natural. There is a reason why most reviewers rate is as one of the best displays on any phone. IMO, there is no competition here.
Performance
Again, there is a big difference here (even with JB on the T989). Nexus 4 is smoother and snappier in general use. But heavy usage like gaming is where the biggest difference lies. As for benchmarks, the lower than expected scores are due to benchmark programs not being optimised for 4.2 (go see the difference between the new and old version of Antutu). And honestly, in reality, benchmarks don't mean s***. All I need to know is that this phone handles everything I throw at it without any hiccups and certainly much better than the T989. If you think that a two gen old dual core with 1 Gb ram preforms as a well as the current top end quad core with twice the ram, you are delusional.
Storage and battery
Storage is the only area where T989 has an advantage with its micro sd slot. If you are the type of person that needs to store all of your life on your phone then nexus 4 is not for you. Personally, I barely store anything on my phone (I had used up only about 4 gb of the internal space on my t989) as everything is on the cloud, so even the 8GB nexus 4 is more than enough. Again this is a personal thing so it's a disadvantage for some people but not others.
Battery life for me has been much better on the nexus 4 than on the t989. Obviously, everyone's usage is different so this will vary from person to person, but I'm extremely happy with mine.
Build quality
Here again, there is no competition. The nexus 4 has a much more solid build and has a very premium feel to it. My T989's plastic back started to creak like crazy just after a few days of owning it and it drove me crazy. I thought I was using a low-end entry level device rather than a premium product.
Yes the nexus has a glass back and yes glass cracks when you drop it...who knew huh? So if you are the type to drop your phone frequently, don't buy it or just get a case for it, end of story.
As for the problems being reported, very few newly released devices are without issues and this is a fact. T989 had it's fair share of problems, some of which have still not been fixed till this day (sticky power button anyone?). If you are someone who can't handle even a minor problem with your device, than a newly released phone is not for you (whether it be a nexus 4 or something else). And let's not forget that problems reported on online forums can be blown out of proportion. After all, only those who have issues are going to complain, while those without issues will probably remain silent. Personally, my nexus 4 is flawless, except for the slight static/buzzing problem from the earpiece reported by many people. However, this noise is very faint and inaudible during calls, so this is a non-issue for me. I'm confident that google will fix the issue and when they do, I will ask them to send me a replacement. After all, that's what the warranty is there for. In the mean time, I'm really enjoying owning this phone over my t989.
Oh and let's not forget about the pure android experience and the fact that you will get updates as soon as google releases them. Even if you are into modding, the nexus is the best phone for that as well as its modding community has always been the strongest out of any android phone. You guys really need to step back and look at things objectively here. As someone who has owned and lived with both phones, I can tell you that there is no competition between the two.