Understand that there are currently 2 popular means:
1) Titanium Pro: Which requires Rooting
2) Google Cloud: Which only backup wifi, apps and apps data that are supported
So if Android does not promote Rooting and Apps Data backup/transfer to new phone is responsibility of Apps Developer, how are Android users like me going to switch between ROMs or Androids' phones?
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Hi -
I'm considering the possibility of installing an App2SD rom (getting really frustrated with the lack of space on the desire). What I'm wanting to know is that:
a) If I do a titanium backup of my non app2sd rom, and install an app2sd rom, and do a full restore (including system settings?), would I be able to have all my apps and data as they were on the new rom?
b) Does having the apps and data on the sd card slow the application down (is memory card access now slower than internal access?)
c) How easy, and pain free is is to install an app2sd rom? (looking at leedroid). My phone is already rooted.
d) Is there anything anything else worth noting before I go ahead with it e.g. poor battery life, likelihood of bricking phone etc.
Many thanks!
stats101 said:
Hi -
I'm considering the possibility of installing an App2SD rom (getting really frustrated with the lack of space on the desire). What I'm wanting to know is that:
a) If I do a titanium backup of my non app2sd rom, and install an app2sd rom, and do a full restore (including system settings?), would I be able to have all my apps and data as they were on the new rom?
b) Does having the apps and data on the sd card slow the application down (is memory card access now slower than internal access?)
c) How easy, and pain free is is to install an app2sd rom? (looking at leedroid). My phone is already rooted.
d) Is there anything anything else worth noting before I go ahead with it e.g. poor battery life, likelihood of bricking phone etc.
Many thanks!
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a) No. Restoring system apps will cause FCs to say the least. Only restore user apps. Setting stuff can easily be recovered and not worth the hassle.
b) Yes. It will be slower. NAND is much faster than SD will ever be. A workaround is never to install system apps, widgets, keyboards and the like to the SD card.
c) Maybe about 2 or 3 more reboots and about 2 hours of your time, likely to be less
d) Since you've rooted, the most dangerous part is already over. I'm amazed that you are not on a custom ROM already.
Have a problem with backup but don't want to open a new thread.
I have backed up SMS and call log with SMS backup+ on to my gmail.
Did a full wipe and when i tried to restore it restored only my SMS, call log is still on my gmail and i can see it. How can i restore that on my phone?
How does one do a full backup of their phone? I see no option in twrp for backing up the internal sd card, and i see support for that was removed from cwm back in version 4 ( unless I'm reading this wrong )...
I know I can just copy it off to my pc or what ever, but that's not really a clean solution for doing backup / restores across multiple roms as it will just involve another process and make it so i have got to be at home to swap..
Any solutions?
Depends if your phone is rooted or not, I believe a rooted phone can do more of a "full" backup but what I usually do is backup all my photos and songs with USB to the computer. For SMS apps and app data and system settings and data I personally like two apps - My backup pro and Titanium Backup PRO which requires root. Just visit the apps in the play store to compare. I recommend doing pictures and music manually cause I've had several issues with the backup apps doing my photos as when I restore them they are corrupt
Hi all - I freaking love these forums, you guys are awesome. What a great community here.
I searched the forums for a walkthru of setting up a new phone from the old one; if it's here somewhere and I missed it, feel free to just point me to it and I'll manage it from there.
So I'm just getting my new AT&T GS III probably today, replacing my stone-age Captivate. I've done a BIT of hack work on the Captivate, it's rooted etc with firmware v2.2, build Froyo.UCJI6. I've got Titanium Backup Pro v5.7.3 running currently. My question is regarding backing up and restoring my settings, market purchases, contacts, saved games (important!!), etc onto my new S III.
For backing up, is it simply a matter of running the batch "backup of all user apps + system data" on the Captivate (which I do weekly), then copying over all the backup files to my removable SD? As long as I run a backup of all apps/data so I just take the files with today's mod date? If I need them all, is there any easy way to batch copy ALL of the files to my SD rather than taking a half-hour to select/deselect the files I need on my tiny Captivate screen?
My bigger concern is that the restoration goes OK on the S III, as they have different versions of the OS. In the Titanium prefs, there are a TON of settings so I'm don't know what I need to focus on or if it's all set to 'auto-pilot' restore on a new phone. I assume I have to first root and then install Titanium on my new phone, just not sure what to do from there? (BTW, can I do a fully-functional restore on the free version of Titanium with my paid version backups? Or do I need to purchase it again on my new phone?)
Thanks in advance, I LOVE this place!!
Tom
teebob2000 said:
Hi all - I freaking love these forums, you guys are awesome. What a great community here.
I searched the forums for a walkthru of setting up a new phone from the old one; if it's here somewhere and I missed it, feel free to just point me to it and I'll manage it from there.
So I'm just getting my new AT&T GS III probably today, replacing my stone-age Captivate. I've done a BIT of hack work on the Captivate, it's rooted etc with firmware v2.2, build Froyo.UCJI6. I've got Titanium Backup Pro v5.7.3 running currently. My question is regarding backing up and restoring my settings, market purchases, contacts, saved games (important!!), etc onto my new S III.
For backing up, is it simply a matter of running the batch "backup of all user apps + system data" on the Captivate (which I do weekly), then copying over all the backup files to my removable SD? As long as I run a backup of all apps/data so I just take the files with today's mod date? If I need them all, is there any easy way to batch copy ALL of the files to my SD rather than taking a half-hour to select/deselect the files I need on my tiny Captivate screen?
My bigger concern is that the restoration goes OK on the S III, as they have different versions of the OS. In the Titanium prefs, there are a TON of settings so I'm don't know what I need to focus on or if it's all set to 'auto-pilot' restore on a new phone. I assume I have to first root and then install Titanium on my new phone, just not sure what to do from there? (BTW, can I do a fully-functional restore on the free version of Titanium with my paid version backups? Or do I need to purchase it again on my new phone?)
Thanks in advance, I LOVE this place!!
Tom
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I did the whole transfer-of-backups process when I got my current device, migrating over from an even more ancient device than your Captivate.
For the backup process, you could fairly easily tell TiBu to use the SD card for its backup storage - that would probably be the easiest way to get the backups in the right place for the move. Other than that, you could, for example, use ADB to pull the backups off of your phone, use one of the cloud storage services that TiBu Pro supports, or find a file manager app that lets you select everything readily (or even just the TiBu folder - one folder isn't that much of a stretch to move) and move it over to the card.
For the restore process, you want to be careful with exactly which system data settings you choose to restore, as - especially across major Android versions and across devices - restoring many of them will just confuse your device as opposed to doing anything useful. Most of the important things - such as your contacts (assuming you have it set to do that, which is the case by default) and market account purchases - aren't stored on the device, but associated with your Google account, so just logging back in with your account on the new phone will restore a lot of that information easily; in particular, this makes it extremely easy for TiBu to find its licence again (once it's on your device).
Hope that's of help
Don't backup system data with titanium, just the apps. I've had some luck backing up sms and WiFi passwords with titanium and restoring them on different roms, though you should use the xml backups (colored in yellow). Your contacts and market purchases should already be synced with your Google account, so if you use the same account on the new phone all of that data will follow.
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For the restore process, you want to be careful with exactly which system data settings you choose to restore, as - especially across major Android versions and across devices - restoring many of them will just confuse your device as opposed to doing anything useful. Most of the important things - such as your contacts (assuming you have it set to do that, which is the case by default) and market account purchases - aren't stored on the device, but associated with your Google account, so just logging back in with your account on the new phone will restore a lot of that information easily; in particular, this makes it extremely easy for TiBu to find its licence again (once it's on your device).
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Thanks for the reply! Do I at some point in the backup or restore process have the option for which system settings are restored?
Also, I'm not sure my contacts are backed up online, is that with my gmail account? I don't think I ever explicitly set that up but I do check gmail on my phone. How can I tell whether it's linked up and already backed up online?
Thanks!
You can check your saved contacts here:
https://www.google.com/contacts/#contacts
When you select to restore in tb you will be given a list of apps/settings to restore. Un check any items that you don't want to restore before confirming the operation.
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Before I restore my Titanium backup to the new phone, do I have to have all the apps that have backed up data already installed on the new phone?
This question is not Nexus 7 specific, but I am using a Nexus 7 so here it goes:
I have been using App Backup Restore by Infolife LLC to backup and restore my android applications.
This works well especially if you need to do a factory reset or if you need to copy applications to another phone.
However the backup process only saves the application's installation packages and not the data, eg if you are using MapFactor Navigator or Google Translate, both of which have 100s of MB of data, you will end up having to re-download all that data again.
Of course every application is different and stores and uses its data in its own way, so a generic Backup/Restore application would not know what extra data files to save and restore.
However it may be that Android provides an API for application backup and restore so that a generic Backup/Restore application maybe written that will successfully backup not only the applications but also their data.
Do you know if such an API or if such an intelligent Backup/Restore application already exists?
Thanks
Zilliman said:
This question is not Nexus 7 specific, but I am using a Nexus 7 so here it goes:
I have been using App Backup Restore by Infolife LLC to backup and restore my android applications.
This works well especially if you need to do a factory reset or if you need to copy applications to another phone.
However the backup process only saves the application's installation packages and not the data, eg if you are using MapFactor Navigator or Google Translate, both of which have 100s of MB of data, you will end up having to re-download all that data again.
Of course every application is different and stores and uses its data in its own way, so a generic Backup/Restore application would not know what extra data files to save and restore.
However it may be that Android provides an API for application backup and restore so that a generic Backup/Restore application maybe written that will successfully backup not only the applications but also their data.
Do you know if such an API or if such an intelligent Backup/Restore application already exists?
Thanks
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Titanium Backup does apps and data!!!
But it needs "root" ? Is that possible/advisable? If yes, what is the best method on Nexus 7 please?
Zilliman said:
But it needs "root" ? Is that possible/advisable? If yes, what is the best method on Nexus 7 please?
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I like this way to root
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2381698
Ultimate [VIDEO Guides] How To Root, Unlock Bootloader and More! New Nexus 7 (2013)
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Yesterday I bought LG G3 to my wife, so question is how to transfer application's data from Samsung S4 mini to new LG G3?
SMS and Call log were simple ...
But I'm fighting with application's data for last 24 hours.... but nothing :crying:
Conditions:
- S4 mini > rooted
- LG G3 > new, not rooted and I do not want to void warranty first day
- SMS and Call log successfully transferred
- all apps installed without their data
I already tried:
- LG Backup - but it does not backup apps, neither app's data
- Titanium Backup - root required
- FULL BACKUP - root required
- Easy Backup & Restore - root required
- App Backup & Restore - root required
- Ultimate Backup - root NOT required, but it backup only app's apks, but not app's data, so seems like the root required too
- Helium - root NOT required
> first problem - run on S4mini and made backup of apps and app's data, but folder "user data" is empty
> second problem - when I started it on G3 .. I got only popup "you have to active it on PC"? Why I don't have same popup on S4mini?
> third problem - I installed Carbon / Helium Desktop does not see the G3, It stated: Connect your mobile via USB
> forth problem - The "USB debugging" is allowed on G3, but popup "you have to active it on PC" is still there
I don't want void warranty first day, also it's my first experience with LG mobile.
Questions:
- if I would root G3 is it possible to un-root it, so it won't be possible to find that G3 was rooted???
- how to transfer app's data without root???
Thank you very much
Just download the LG backup tool from the play store.
You can transfer the data directly.
Rgds
LG backup does not transfer app´s data
It is written also on the Play store...
Movable Data:
Contact, Calendar, Bookmark, Message(SMS), Photo, Video, Music, Documents, Voice Memo
Contact - done by Google sync
Calendar - done by Google sync
Bookmark - dont care
Message(SMS) - done by SMS backup
Photo - on the sdcard (not necessary to transfer)
Video - on the sdcard (not necessary to transfer)
Music - on the sdcard (not necessary to transfer)
Documents - dont care
Voice Memo - dont care
But nothing about app´data... like Viber/Skype conversations. and games progress
If you were to root your device you could unroot it by flashing stock firmware with LG flash tool. It will leave no traces of root as it will reflash your entire device.
I don't know how to transfer apps data without root. My knowladge tells me that you can't write to data partition without root but I just tried Helium app without giving it root access and it did its job without issues.
I installed Helium, installed the desktop suite for it, connected device, backed up data of an app to my external sdcard, unistalled the app I previously backed up, installed it again from play store, verified that I am no logged in it (it was kik messenger app), went back to Helium and restored apps data. After runing the app again it was logged in with all the conversations like before. Idk what error you get when you run Helium.
I never used it myself, but you can try Holo Backup, seems easy to use: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2091047
The download link in the thread is not working, download here:
https://mega.co.nz/#!md11TKrL!_VOH8naRUB5EpsrnE3iJycnKFzj8YGTV-m-sCiOuB9k
Thank you.
I will try connect G3 to the different PC then as seems like it Helium doesn't like the laptop.
If it will not work ... I'm going for root and use Titanium, as till now...
Thank you.
I will try this too.
If it will not work ... I'm going for root and use Titanium, as till now...