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migrating from one EVO to a NEW Evo

well long story short... unrelated to anything herein... i have two EVO phones. one is a replacement phone for the current active phone. Sprint sent it to me, cause they couldn't figure out why Google's market wouldn't download apps to my phone. (I solved that problem on my own) but in the mean time i had this replacement phone, so I decided to test things out...
I have fully rooted the test phone, and I am using DamageControl v3.2.3. I installed apps on this phone over wifi.. and started to think that now i need to move my data over from the current active phone.
I have titanium backup paid version. On the test phone, i have backed up the phone going through the root and unlocking of NAND process. Pretty cool application.
I also have "lookout" installed on the active phone, and it is current.
My question is, best i can tell much of the application data seems to be on the SDRAM card. Is that not the case? what data is actually lost during a root proces or NAND unlocking process?
Since Titanium backup requires root access I really can't back up the current phone using that application. I have some backup with the "lookout" application. But i was wondering when the device gets flashed... what exactly is getting writen over.
i see a folder called Mail on the SD card... it is about 50mb... is that where my mail messages are from my different POP3 accounts? on the test phone, all of the mail account settings are not there obviously... but if i add the email accounts will it read the mail from the SDcard created using the other phone?
here is the data I like to migrate over from the rootless phone to the rooted phone.
1. mail messages from about 12 mail accounts
2. Mail account settings
3. layout of the different Sense walls (or whatever they are called) ..you know the faces with all of the icons you see when you look at the phone (there are 7)
4. phone call history
5. SMS messages and history
6. application settings
7. Browser bookmarks (and settings)
i can see my pictures and video are located on my sdram card, but not sure about the above items....
can you help? I am a skilled IT network pro, but not too skilled in the phone's unix like workings... can you help?

There are probably several ways you can do this, but I think it will be easier to accomplish this if you root your rootless phone. Once that phone is rooted you can use titanium or make a nandroid back up and restore on the phone that already has root. Both nandroid backup and titanium backups are saved on the SD card. If rooting is not an option your going to have to look for an app that can make backups without root. There might be one out there but I dont know of any.

it is not clear to me, what exactly is lost when I root. There are warnings that states:
"wipe all of your data so brace for that. backup or what not"
doesn't that mean I will loose user data in step 1 of the toastcfh process before i am able to install (or run) titanium backup?
the warning is not really clear to me exactly what is going on....
I am not against rooting, the rootless phone. Do think Sprint would care if I send them a rooted phone I suppose i could de-root, the rooted phone. I remember seeing somebody having a process for that... not sure.
need some help clearing up some of this... thanks!

[Q] Backing up etc

Hi all. Well I've not rooted yet (just not had the time), and have a stock orange UK ROM with the default stuff! I have searched around and can't seem to find the answer to simple backup questions!
I am having the reboot issues (well documented in another thread), and it's getting worse and worse. even to the extent now that it's rebooting after calls (started out when charging using games, then now I cant run navigation for more than 2 minutes).
I have been told to do a factory reset (not a bad idea TBH). But backups is my main concern.
I have my contacts and calendar fine (not an issue), what I am concerned about mainly is my paid for apps. I have just synced with AppBrain, but will this get my paid for apps back?
Also SMS is the other thing I want to backup, I have installed SMS Backup which backs up to an XML file, which I can read. But read that some people have had problems with restoring, is this true? Or can someone recommend a better app? I am not too concerned with settings, as happy to do things slightly differently this time round, so mainly paiud for apps! Also what happens when orange eventaulyl send me a new phone (which seems to be the resoltuion of the paid for apps?)
I will take the SD card out when I factory reset, but what else should I worry about?
Regards, Martin

I have used SMS Backup and it seems to work fine with me. Not sure if it backs up MMS though, but there is a seperate free tool to save the MMS to SDcard available on the market.
As for your paid for apps, they will show up in the Market once you have perfromed a factory reset and you will be able to re-install without having to pay again. Just make sure that you log in using the same credentials.
The backups I perfored prior to rooting were as follows:
1) export contacts to SDCard
2) backup SMS using SMS Backup & Restore
3) Backup call logs using Call Logs Backup and Restore - I wanted to keep these.
A factory reset should not wipe what is currently on your SDCard, but I cannot hurt to copy the contents to your PC/Laptop before doing the reset.

dcnice said:
I have used SMS Backup and it seems to work fine with me. Not sure if it backs up MMS though, but there is a seperate free tool to save the MMS to SDcard available on the market.
As for your paid for apps, they will show up in the Market once you have perfromed a factory reset and you will be able to re-install without having to pay again. Just make sure that you log in using the same credentials.
The backups I perfored prior to rooting were as follows:
1) export contacts to SDCard
2) backup SMS using SMS Backup & Restore
3) Backup call logs using Call Logs Backup and Restore - I wanted to keep these.
A factory reset should not wipe what is currently on your SDCard, but I cannot hurt to copy the contents to your PC/Laptop before doing the reset.
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Thanks for this, yes call logs would be cool too! I'm not too fussed with regards to the settings of the phone, gives me a chance to start over! Im not even that fussed on SMS's nice to have a history they're currently backing up to the google mail thing!
It was the apps I've paid for most concerned for, and yeah sounds good that it's tied to the google account, guess that means if/when I get a new phone they'll just get copied over to the new phone, when orange realise that it needs to be replaced... Pffftt...
Many thanks makes sence now (used to the iTunes/iPhone system! WHich shilst walled, does make some things easy! I PREFER DROID THO!)

Titanium vs My Backup Pro

Hello all
I think this thread would be highly relevant since we are all in the business of continuous wipes and ROM installs.
I have been using two programs for my backup needs: Titanium Backup and My Backup Pro. I know the two apps are quite different, but ultimately their purpose is the same. I list brief observations about the two:
TItanium BAckup
1) Backs up all right, but stalls on some programs while restoring, restarting Sense. In order to resume, one has to uncheck that program from the restore list
2) Creates a single, unified backup, thus saving disk space. But also, I haven't found a way to restore exactly the apps that I had last - it only restores ALL the apps in its backup history, meaning it is a cumulative history of apps rather than latest snapshot. The options are either 'restore missing apps' or 'restore all apps'. Am I missing something?
3) Closes down everything while backing up - something of a minor irritation
4) Does not restore my Sense desktop fully
5) Some restored programs are prone to errors or missing data
My BAckup Pro:
1) Generally quite slower than TB
2) Backs up everything, allows to restore only the apps I had last installed
3) Restores Sense desktop quite well
4) Sometimes stalls in the process of zipping the backup or unzipping it again. But always picks up from where it left.
It turns out MBP is slightly better. But I'd love others' feedback on this.

I've found TB to be highly advanced in Apps backup area compared to MBP. TB allows app freezing, which virtually allows you to uninstall a nagging system app with an undo option. And with the latest version it even allows uninstalling system apps!!
Bye Bye Teeter, Peep and the like.

Yes, you are right it is more 'advanced'. But for me more important than saving a few MB by removing system apps is getting my whole apps and desktop back undamaged and without errors etc, and in this case I found MBP to be better.
As I mentioned above, Titanium does not offer an easy way to restore the EXACT apps I had before wipe - it either offers 'ALL apps ever backed up' or nothing. Again, that might be my misconception. But as I said, it does stall on too many apps.

talhamid said:
Yes, you are right it is more 'advanced'. But for me more important than saving a few MB by removing system apps is getting my whole apps and desktop back undamaged and without errors etc, and in this case I found MBP to be better.
As I mentioned above, Titanium does not offer an easy way to restore the EXACT apps I had before wipe - it either offers 'ALL apps ever backed up' or nothing. Again, that might be my misconception. But as I said, it does stall on too many apps.
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will have to agree with u TB is quite annoying stopped using a while ago
the only problem i have with MBP is the contacts and calender restore so i stopped using them
i just log on to my gmail and sync my contacts and calender
and as for app restore, its works great never had any errors and i usually restore with data.

TB does allow single apps to backup or restore.
I have backup and restored single apps many times. U can set it to backup only user apps an optionally add the system ones. You simple press menu->batch->backup user apps then you can go through the list and tick/untick those apps you wish to backup or not.
I have found TB so easy to use for whatever combination of backup restore i feel like doing. Also the scheduled backup is a life saver!
for these reasons i have donated to this app!

Been using the paid version of Titanium since I got my Desire and love it. Have never had a single issue or experienced any of the problems listed...

i always used titanium earlier but since i tried MBP.... i generally uninstall titanium from the custom roms of flash. for me MBP is the best love it

I have paid versions of both TB and MBP, and only have one installed on my phone now.
Which one?
Titanium.
I've not experienced a single one of the issues that the OP mentioned. As has been said previously, even in batch operation you can select/deselect the apps you want to backup or restore.
To the OP: Are you using the paid version of Titanium?
Regards,
Dave

Yes, I am using paid version. I am aware of the option to restore single apps as well. I have been using both for months.
Actually, my problem is this: I have about 167 apps that I am currently using (or pretend to be using anyway!). TBP has a backup of these 167, PLUS many other apps that I backed up earlier but uninstalled. Now when I wipe, and then restore, I have to uncheck the apps I had uninstalled from the restore list. Second problem is, TBU stalls on some apps and reboots Sense, and will continue only if I keep looking at the progress bar, notice which app causes the crash, and uncheck it from restore list.
MBP provides multiple backups, allows me to back up JUST the apps I have installed RIGHT now, and restores them without a problem. it also restores my desktops quite nicely.

when you do a full backup of all the apps and system apps of course sense will crash , because TB shuts sense down to back up the files !
Thats the case with all the running apps, because you can choose
Kill active apps OR Exclude active apps !
You can choose a batch to backup the NEW programs in TB.
its in the list.
Backup All new apps & newer versions
I use the paid version and im very happy with it, it works great.

talhamid said:
Now when I wipe, and then restore, I have to uncheck the apps I had uninstalled from the restore list.
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If you don't want the backups for the uninstalled apps, why not just use the batch operation to delete them?
Second problem is, TBU stalls on some apps and reboots Sense, and will continue only if I keep looking at the progress bar, notice which app causes the crash, and uncheck it from restore list.
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I've never experienced this issue, so I can't comment.
MBP provides multiple backups, allows me to back up JUST the apps I have installed RIGHT now, and restores them without a problem. it also restores my desktops quite nicely.
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TB backs up your desktop too, if you select the right options.
Does MBP now have something similar to Market Doctor from TB?
Regards,
Dave

The Sense stall comes during RESTORATION not BACKUP, and on certain specific apps.
Secondly, yes I have seen the option, but what about restore. I have 'restore missing apps', 'restore all apps', and 'restore newer apps', none of which exactly matches my requirement.
Also, I know with the 'right options' I can restore the desktop with TB too, but it is restored in a broken way with many widgets missing.

Does MBP now have something similar to Market Doctor from TB?
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Actually yes but I have currently the problem, when restoring all apps with their data, they won't show up in the market until I reinstall one app (does not matter which one) and then you will see all your installed apps in the market. Can anyone confirm this ?
Besides that it won't restore 3rd party widgets at your homescreen but I'm almost using all launcherpro plus widgets and the lpp config will be anyway saved through MBP app backup.
I'm using MBP quite often to restore everything and it's quite impressive imho and definitely well worth its money. Never had a big issue with it except the small ones mentioned above.
Best Regards

How about, "Delete backups of Uninstalled Apps"
I used that after every full backup to make sure when I restore it doesn't restore uninstalled apps.

OK, I didn't notice the 'delete backups of uninstalled apps' - so my bad.
That said, I think MBP does what I need with far fewer clicks. Perhaps this is because it has less features.
One thing I can't get around is the error messages I keep getting with TBU.
Guess will have to keep both

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Also, I know with the 'right options' I can restore the desktop with TB too, but it is restored in a broken way with many widgets missing.
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I suspect that this may be due to the order in which the backups are restored. It's possible that TB restores the Sense homescreen data before some of the apps and widgets that are on the homescreens have been restored, causing the problems you mentioned.
I've no particular interest in testing it because I don't generally feel the need to backup and restore my homescreens, but if you are, I'd suggest trying to restore your apps and then try to restore your homescreen data.
One other great feature of TB is its integration with App Organizer. Using this, you can label your apps and then backup/restore by label. For example, I do play some games on my phone, but due to space restrictions I don't keep them on the phone at all times. Using App Organizer, I label all my games as "Games", and I then in TB I can backup/restore by that label.
Personally, I think TB is a much more flexible tool than MBP, but with that flexibility comes complexity, which means that MBP is probably superior for less technical users.
Regards,
Dave

To be honest i am a Lover of
My Backup Pro,
When i first flashed my phone, i was told by a number of people to use
Titanium
So i got it installed it,
and it come to flashing my rom, i loaded it up,
And was blown away by the number of options,
For me and my honest opinion and what i need it for,
Its far to over complex and does not always perform correctly,
After fafing around for a while i finialy managed to Backup my apps and Data,
And restoring them was a faf, And when i did some Apps didnt load / crash
At this point i never give it the time of day,
I got My Backup on the go and Wow was it easy and fast.
In the Time messing around with options in Titanium i would have backeup all my Apps and Data, and every settings and contacts SMS and MMS Alarms, well pretty much the whole phone using My Backup,
It was Super easy, no fuss, no messing, it backs up and restores,
Restoring is just as easy, select all, or Deselect ones you dont want to restore, if its Settings or A Couple of Apps,
So after loving it i paid for the Pro Version,
Never looked back

the_rebel said:
I've found TB to be highly advanced in Apps backup area compared to MBP. TB allows app freezing, which virtually allows you to uninstall a nagging system app with an undo option. And with the latest version it even allows uninstalling system apps!!
Bye Bye Teeter, Peep and the like.
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I am trying right now to uninstall Facebook widget and devices is rebooting...
Any suggestion
P.S.: Leedroid 2.0c ROM

I have been using My Backup Pro since day 1 of having an Android phone. But I am so sick of this POS app. Every single time I restore my apps to a newly rommed phone a number of them force close. If I uninstall those and reinstall fresh from market, they then work fine, so I completely blame this app.
I am not referring to widgets, btw
My question is, before I dump this POS and buy Titanium, has anyone experienced similar problems with it?
Thanks

Hi Barsky,
According to your question, I didn't encounter any issues with user apps + data restore.
However, in order to succesfully use all the features of Titanium Backup (reffered as TB) you have to be an aware user.
This means that you either backup everything and make custom restore, or you backup with a proper selection of things and restore everything. What do I mean?
1. You probably don't need to hesitate backuping user apps+user data, that comes pretty straight-forward.
2. You also probably don't need to worry when you upgrade your ROM.
3. The problem arises with rom/system applications and settings when changing (not upgrading) ROM (Froyo/GB, Sense/AOSP etc). What I found quite safe is:
BACKUP:
- backup everything in TB
- use Calls Logs & Backup from the market to backup calls log
- synchronize contacts and calendar with google​
RESTORE:
[don't allow google synchronization before restoring calls log if you don't want to have call log with unbound telephone numbers]
- use Titanium Backup to restore Call Logs & Backup application
- use Calls Logs & Backup to restore calls log
- restore selective tasks in TB:
[be aware that restoring Widgets/HTC Sense may cause conflicts]
# Accounts
# Bluetooth Pairings
# HTC Sense (If you use Sense - and I have suspicion this can cause conflicts, but not sure yet)*
# Bookmarks
# SMS/MMS/Apn
# E-mail account settings
# Wi-Fi Access Points
# SMS/MMS Prefs
# ALARMS​
- reboot
- enable google synchronization for contacts and calendar (I don't restore contacts with Titanium Backup since: 1. It's not necessary, 2. It causes FC on some migrations)
- restore all user apps+data from TB​
Always make nandroid backup along with TB backup. I also advise making nandroid backup after restoring everything mentioned above except HTC Sense and Widgets, and then try to restore those two (if needed).
Obviuos tip - selective restoring can be done by executing 'batch restore' and then selecting from the generated list.
When I got all that, I am happy with TB. I don't expect perfect Backup&Restore tool, since there are too much defragmentation in Android platform.

How do I get Titanium Pro to backup Torque user screens?

I'm trying to backup all of the Torque Realtime screens because of the time it takes to make them but it's not working! Does Titanium Pro really backup "User Data" which I would assume that these screens would be??
Someone here has to have done this if they have these 2 apks and backed Torque up using Titanium Pro! Any help much appreciated. It must be in one of the Backup or Restore settings but I can't figure out which one!

In the Preferences of Titanium, tap on Backup settings, and put a tick in the Backup app cache box. Make sure the folder you're saving the backup files to is empty, and then do a backup, but just the Torque app. only.
You then copy that entire folder with what Titanium has saved for Torque to your new device, install Titanium Pro on it, go into Preferences, Restoration settings, and ensure a Tick in the box next to Migrate system data. Then, restore the app. and it should come back the way you had it on your donor device.

@djshotty , very much appreciate your response. Am trying your method now but need to know which 'batch actions' to 'restore' listing to use. I've been using "Backup all user apps" to backup and I've been using "Restore all apps with data" and then 'Deselecting all' and only selecting Torque and then do the Restore. Where, except what you mentioned, have I been doing wrong???
Just finished testing and still the same problem. I did a backup, ticking places you mentioned using a new empty folder, and then did a restore(of Torque only). It looked the same....BUT I next erased one of the PIDs on one of the screens. Then without doing another backup, I restored that same backup and what I erased is now gone. In other words, the backup should have restored the screen the way it was backed up!...must be another 'tick box' that I have ticked or don't have ticked that needs to be. One other thing, I don't have any scheduled backups set so they don't change my testing while trying to find what the problem is. Thanks for helping!

On the Batch actions - ALL screen, Run the Backup all user apps + system data, then Deselect All, scroll down to find Torque, put a tick in the box, tap the green tick at the top right of screen and back it up.

djshotty said:
On the Batch actions - ALL screen, Run the Backup all user apps + system data, then Deselect All, scroll down to find Torque, put a tick in the box, tap the green tick at the top right of screen and back it up.
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@djshotty apparently you aren't reading my post correctly. I have backed up Torque and stated in my post. I am not trying to migrate my settings to another unit as you mentioned. Titanium Pro should never change a backup once its been backed up. That's why one can do multiple backups. If I make a mistake and delete an app that's been backed up, Titanium can restore it. Why you are getting defensive? I have said nothing but that I have followed your instructions and they did not work. Titanium is not restoring my backup as it was when I backed it(Torque) up. Proof: I backup Torque and then make a change to Torque. I then restore Torque and the changes that I made are in the backup that gets restored!!! And that's without doing another BackUP...just Restore.
I'm just asking for help from anyone that uses Titanium Pro that can guide me to where in the settings that must be wrong to cause my problem. Thanks again for attempting to help!

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I almost peed my pants after reading this...lol
If the steps outlined are not working something must be wrong with the application installed, or a pebkac error... I too have used TB for years since since the HTC Incredible came out and have never had a problem when following these same steps. I have never known TB to change a previously created backup.

matt1981m said:
I almost peed my pants after reading this...lol
If the steps outlined are not working something must be wrong with the application installed, or a pebkac error... I too have used TB for years since since the HTC Incredible came out and have never had a problem when following these same steps. I have never known TB to change a previously created backup.
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@matt1981m, instead of peeing in your pants, why don't you attempt what I have posted and then post that it works for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its obviously changing my backup. If you use Torque, make a backup, go back into Torque and just change one easy PID on one of the screens by deleting the PID, and then restore your backup just for Torque and see if that PID is really still there where it was. Then post your reply! I'm not saying that Titanium Pro has the problem, I'm trying to find out why and how to fix my problem with Titanium's backup! I thought this site was for members to get help and to offer help to those that need it instead of making derogatory remarks about someone's problems with any app. If you check most of my post, you will find that I attempt to help others instead of criticizing them...

I apologize if you felt I was criticizing you. That was not my intention. I have torque pro installed and configured on my HU. I haven't had any issues, and I haven't specifically tried modifying the PID as you have mentioned, but I have used TB to restore settings for Torque Pro. I will be installing a SoM upgrade to a RK3188 in a couple days, depending on USPS, and I will update this thread at that time to share what results I have with the current versions of both apps.

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I apologize if you felt I was criticizing you. That was not my intention. I have torque pro installed and configured on my HU. I haven't had any issues, and I haven't specifically tried modifying the PID as you have mentioned, but I have used TB to restore settings for Torque Pro. I will be installing a SoM upgrade to a RK3188 in a couple days, depending on USPS, and I will update this thread at that time to share what results I have with the current versions of both apps.
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Thanks Matt, for your reply. I have been using Titanium for months without problems. But when changing one of the screens in Torque, NOT Modifying the PID, but deleting one PID or adding a PID, and then change my mind and want it back like when I backed it up, it restores the screen as I last modified it after the backup! Since I changed it, it's different than the backup. The backup should return the screen to when I backed it up. It does not! I will add that I never tried this before.......and I just used Malaysk's Lollipop ROM to upgrade from KItKat 4.4.4 to LP 5.1.1.....Thanks @Malaysk ,don't know that has anything to do with the problem. It appears, from the way that mine is doing, that Titanium is monitoring in the background and keeping my changes overriding the backup when they are different. I'm very new to the Android devices and have a very lot to learn about root and different apps. Please try when you get the SOM upgrade and duplicate what I tried and post results here. I use paypal and will pay for the solution to the problem if one exist! Thanks again

I jealous of the 5.1.1... that is why I am doing this SoM upgrade. I have a Sonata and only the RK3066 was available with the bezel for the car. The aftermarket bezels just looked cheap and I was looking for an OEM feel. No need to pay for a fix. If you feel inclined to do so, send beer/coffee money Malaysk's way.

matt1981m said:
I jealous of the 5.1.1... that is why I am doing this SoM upgrade. I have a Sonata and only the RK3066 was available with the bezel for the car. The aftermarket bezels just looked cheap and I was looking for an OEM feel. No need to pay for a fix. If you feel inclined to do so, send beer/coffee money Malaysk's way.
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will do, and thanks.....having no problems with 5.1.1.....but I don't have access to anything but wifi on the road, so no phone, no internet,,,,,just music, GPS, and off-line maps...bjut well worth it.

matt1981m said:
I jealous of the 5.1.1... that is why I am doing this SoM upgrade. I have a Sonata and only the RK3066 was available with the bezel for the car. The aftermarket bezels just looked cheap and I was looking for an OEM feel. No need to pay for a fix. If you feel inclined to do so, send beer/coffee money Malaysk's way.
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will do to Malaysk, and I'm having no problems with 5.1.1

DWilks said:
I backup Torque and then make a change to Torque. I then restore Torque and the changes that I made are in the backup that gets restored!!! And that's without doing another BackUP...just Restore.
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That's because Titanium replaces the files in the data folder with what it's stored away. If there are new files with different names containing the changes you've made to the app., they won't get overwritten.
I'm just asking for help from anyone that uses Titanium Pro that can guide me to where in the settings that must be wrong to cause my problem. Thanks again for attempting to help!
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Because of how Titanium does it's thing, there's no 'Setting' that will force it to overwrite the install folder's files when it hasn't actually got them stored away. When you make changes to the app.'s system files, they get changed from what Titanium backed up. You're asking to restore your old settings for Torque over the top of what you changed? Then go into your device's Settings menu, Applications, Application manager then delete all data for Torque and then uninstall it. Next, restore the app. from Titanium directly, and you'll be back where you were at the time you backed the app. up.

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Save/restore /sdcard/.torque

I have the same issue. I've reset my phone and restored all apps using Titanium Backup yet the custom screens I had created for Torque, including my vehicle profile, weren't restored. My backups for all other apps and data restored fine, except Torque.

ShieldOfSalvation said:
I have the same issue. I've reset my phone and restored all apps using Titanium Backup yet the custom screens I had created for Torque, including my vehicle profile, weren't restored. My backups for all other apps and data restored fine, except Torque.
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Glad to help you on this problem ShieldOfSalvation. That was one of the most frustrating problems that I had and couldn't get an answer that worked. Those screens are a pain in the ass to have to keep making.
Here's a solution that worked for me: All of your screens & vehicle settings are located in a folder called ".torque" (without those quote marks) .torque . It's located in the "internal storage sdcard" as in this location "internal storage sdcard\.torque . That 'slash mark' might be flipped the other way...as in / instead of \...I don't remember which.
You need to copy the folder .torque WHILE YOU STILL HAVE YOUR SCREENS THAT YOU SET UP to an External device like the EXTERNAL SDCARD (GPS CARD if you have one). And then, after you have completed whatever upgrade or process that you have done that erases your "screens and vehicle settings" and goes to default, JUST COPY YOUR SAVED .torque FOLDER BACK TO IT'S ORIGINAL LOCATION AND OVER WRITE THE ONE THAT'S NOW THERE. You can also rename the .torque folder that's in the internal storage sdcard and paste the SAVED .torque folder there. If you don't make any changes to your screens very often, keep that .torque folder with your screens in a safe place and just copy and paste it over the default one. If and when you do make changes, make sure to recopy .torque folder and store it in a safe place .....that's it....Hope it works for you!

DWilks, if you're right, then when I get home tonight I should be able to restore that .torque folder because in addition to Titanium Backup Pro I also use SyncMe Wireless by bvaisoft to backup the entire internal SD card and external SD card (including my Titanium Backup archives) to a network hard drive on my LAN. In this case where TB Pro appears to have missed that folder, SyncMe should have saved my hide. It snapshots the entire SD card's files and folders. I will come back with results later.

SyncMe did backup my .torque folder in the internal SD card because I had it set to copy hidden files and folders nightly. After copying it back to my SD card from my network share backup location, I was finally able to see my vehicle profile again in Torque and my custom dashboard is back. Thanks, DWilks!

Question Backup and transfer Data and Wifi/BT Settings

Hello,
since Titanium Backup which I used for years seems to not work anymore, I am now looking for any other possibilities to transfer my apps+app data and also some system settings like wifi passwords/APN data, BT connections and such.
With TB this was always well working for me.
What I have tried:
OAndBackupX -> I enabled "special backups" and tried to backup wifi, but sadly it just creates a new folder for the wifi backup (special.wifi.access.points) with a properties file. However the subfolder, where the backup should be present is empty.
So this solution doesn't seems to work, at least not on my phone with Android 8.
I also tried to do backups of some apps, however it looks a bit strange to backup an app that shows as 25mb and the base.apk which gets created for it is only 9mb (and no other file besides that, although everything was ticked for backup)
How is everyone here doing this when switching from one phone to another (especially for access point data and data of apps)?
Syncing wifi passwords to google cloud I somehow do not want (even if they're encrypted) and the issue with app+app data is still present then.

Annil said:
Hello,
since Titanium Backup which I used for years seems to not work anymore, I am now looking for any other possibilities to transfer my apps+app data and also some system settings like wifi passwords/APN data, BT connections and such.
With TB this was always well working for me.
What I have tried:
OAndBackupX -> I enabled "special backups" and tried to backup wifi, but sadly it just creates a new folder for the wifi backup (special.wifi.access.points) with a properties file. However the subfolder, where the backup should be present is empty.
So this solution doesn't seems to work, at least not on my phone with Android 8.
I also tried to do backups of some apps, however it looks a bit strange to backup an app that shows as 25mb and the base.apk which gets created for it is only 9mb (and no other file besides that, although everything was ticked for backup)
How is everyone here doing this when switching from one phone to another (especially for access point data and data of apps)?
Syncing wifi passwords to google cloud I somehow do not want (even if they're encrypted) and the issue with app+app data is still present then.
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This was the biggest pain in the ass. I tried plugging my old phone into the new phone but my old phone died midway through so I basically just started fresh. it sucks I have been doing it all last night and this morning and haven't finished. I did use sms back up & restore to get my text messages other than that everything is fresh and annoying.

No one else facing issues with backup/transfer? How is everyone transferring nowadays their appdata and access points and such? Really curious....
Got two phones here (Pixel 6 + Pro) waiting for transfers and I am still not sure how to accomplish completely...
Glad about any inputs!

A lot of people are recommending Swift Backup which is supposed to be the successor to Titanium Backup. I haven't tried it myself though.

If I understand correctly, Swift Backup also requires root to restore app data, network settings etc.

The best backup/restore solution I found was Google One's built in. It just works (albeit not as well as, say, iOS, and definitely not up to the level of Swift/Titanium). Without root, sadly, you won't have many options as you're limited to the APIs Google provides, which themselves are limited. Swift works this around by "manually" backing up all the files/folders for every app.

I do have google one, but sadly most apps I would require, get only backed up for the APK but not the data

Is Titanium Backup now deprecated for latest Android? I have Android10 on a car head unit with a very customised oem Launcher. I managed to root it with universal root from here and Magisk (Thanks). Titanium shows me all the installed apps and bloat with sizes - great!. I want to make a backup of an App in the oem system folder before deleting it. I seem to be able to create a backup on mnt/sdcard, but I can't delete the oem app?
I have 2 system folders, System\ and system (root). They appear mirrors of each other and if I go to system(root) /oem/app/*My bloat app, I can delete it with FX root file browser. But not if I go to folders inside System\. Is this something to do with how Magisk roots and can restore to non root by creating a mirror folder? I used TB to make a backup of this bloat app and it worked. But after deleting the app successfully with a file browser the TB backup folder was empty - is this normal? With one pre-installed (Russian!) nav app I didn't need or trust, I recovered 4.5Gb of memory with more oem apps to look at.
For now I can use TB to locate bloat apps I want to remove with a file browser but I really wanted to back them up first and delete from within the app. Is TB trying to delete from system\ where access seems denied, rather than system(root) where I can delete files with a root explorer? Any help appreciated - Thanks

TB is pretty much dead...
i started using Swift.. and also https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...mate-app-manager-debloat-tool-tweaks.4147837/

Thanks, I was guessing that from the age of posts in this thread. I started off thinking I wanted a full Nandroid backup but that requires a customised TWRP partition and AFIK this car head unit with its OE launcher doesn't seem to follow the partition structure I'm used to in phones. It has 3 external USBs and I can't get it to do anything with adb and a pc connected. The USBs are only active towards the end of boot. However, their factory image and unversal root seems to get picked up with the same 'Upgrade' screen messages from the folder Isec_updatesh. I don't know what I'd do if I bricked it, although I have found the OE Boot.img file packed in their update folders.
Thanks for the link to bloat removal. Nandroid backup creates a full rom image whereas most other backup apps seem to only backup apks and not system files. Android car head units are heavily customised with many added hardware based peripherals so a full backup is important to me. Adb might offer a solution, but as I said, even in developer mode I can't get the USBs to talk to a pc which I assume is because there isn't the usual recovery mode, unless it's on button press combos I haven't found yet? There is a recovery to factory reset, but it's an option in their launcher so I'm guessing it's not in the usual Android recovery partition?

OK I took a quick look at ADB AppControl. First I need to establish an ADB link from PC and I'm struggling with that. Second it does what some other non-root apps do which is to hide the bloatware and stop them running when my objective is to take the 16Gb+ memory they filled from 32Gb and recover memory by deleting bloatware and apps I don't need. There's a tendency now to sell these Chinese car head units with all the GAPPS and many more pre-installed. Unfortunely, most require a mobile network connection to function. I'm not interested in their Satnav, Google maps, Facebook or other social media apps they threw in. The one thing going for me now is I'm running AFwall+ which is the best reason for rooting a Chinese sourced device to stop data leaks to them or Google.
As I ran their factory 'update' I could see all these apps getting installed. If I was clever enough to understand how the Android 10 install 'Manifest' (my words) worked, I would prefer to edit out entries for OE apps in their installer, if it was possible?