So I've changed my stance on root and I've decided to go for it soon. I'm sorry if this question is redundant but there's a few root methods and even more kernels in the developer's forum now, and this will be my first ever foray into android rooting and flashing so I want the noob friendliest method possible.
My goal as indicated in the title is to end up with root, a clean stock kernel and the latest CWM. So what path would you guys suggest I take based on what the great devs have put together thus far? By the way, I have a good handle on Odin I think so I don't need flashing instructions, just the best path to take to the above based on the kernels available.
Thanks in advance.
I have found that stock kernels work best for me. I would suggest you try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348 or this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099. I am currently using the second one.
jase33 said:
I have found that stock kernels work best for me. I would suggest you try this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348 or this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305099. I am currently using the second one.
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Thanks but the LOSt kernel isn't stock is it? Assuming it's not, I've decided to pass on it for now and go straight stock. So since chris41g's kernel doesn't root, would it be best to get root by flashing Zedomax's kernel first, then chris' or flash Superuser via CWM after flashing chris' kernel? I'm trying to find the method with the least potential for problems since this is my first go at it.
Thanks again.
I would flash the stock with cwm and then flash the superuser,zip in cwm.
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Well I had a change of plans and decided to go straight to chris41g's LoStKernel. Gonna run that for awhile and see if I can pull of my first LOS. If not, cool beans. If I do, I can always just flash a stock kernel via CWM now that I'm rooted.
Thanks for the advice guys!
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i'm trying to install some apps that require root. im looking fotr the least intrusive way of doing so, with zero side effects. tried reading thru the forum, but got confused. can anyone please point me in the right direction. thanks
If your looking for just root on stock kernel I would wait. It will come really soon. If u want it now then u need to flash zedos v3 kernel and then flash the stock kernel back. Then u will have root on stock kernel. There should be a root + cwm stock kernel be coming out soon though thats why I said to wait.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273730
thanks, guess i will wait.
ericizzy1 said:
i'm trying to install some apps that require root. im looking fotr the least intrusive way of doing so, with zero side effects. tried reading thru the forum, but got confused. can anyone please point me in the right direction. thanks
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1) Flash ACS CWM recovery in odin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268037
2) Flash su zip from the same post in the recovery.
3) Flash ACS stock kernel/recovery in odin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273647
This method only adds root binary/app while leaving everything else stock.
Hey Fellas, I see alot has developed since Zedo's kernel, fantastic to see community so hard at work!
As far for my "question", i was on Zedo's V3, ODIN'd back to stock using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273647). (Big ups to Bubby by the way, dude is kickin ASS). However still noticed i have SU & Titanium Backup but kinda pointless since I dont have root.
So since everyone has had some time switching between different stock ones (albeit Deodex or Odex) this is why I ask but whats the best stable stock'd since the one i ODIN'd?
In other words, sitting with stock from Zedo's still with SU/TB & i want to go stock with rooted, what is best comfortable one everyone prefers at the moment?
Hope I didn't make that too foreign for everyone to follow lol <3
Also, worst case scenario, is Bubbys (the one i have currently) the best stock one to go back too if i encounter any problems?
comedy said:
Hey Fellas, I see alot has developed since Zedo's kernel, fantastic to see community so hard at work!
As far for my "question", i was on Zedo's V3, ODIN'd back to stock using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1273647). (Big ups to Bubby by the way, dude is kickin ASS). However still noticed i have SU & Titanium Backup but kinda pointless since I dont have root.
So since everyone has had some time switching between different stock ones (albeit Deodex or Odex) this is why I ask but whats the best stable stock'd since the one i ODIN'd?
In other words, sitting with stock from Zedo's still with SU/TB & i want to go stock with rooted, what is best comfortable one everyone prefers at the moment?
Hope I didn't make that too foreign for everyone to follow lol <3
Also, worst case scenario, is Bubbys (the one i have currently) the best stock one to go back too if i encounter any problems?
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Okay from what I understand, all you want is stock and rooted, correct?
In the development forums, Zedo released a stock with root and cwm. That'll give you exactly what you want.
I know it sounds like shameless self promotion, but I just released 2 roms (deodex and odex) that are stock and rooted with busybox and are also running bubby's kernel (so there's cwm recovery), found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284511
Either way you'll end up with a stock rom and root with recovery and they're both very stable and easy to use I hope this helped.
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whoops you weren't rooted. my bad lol. Okay first option: use zedo's stock kernel v1. This gives you root + recovery with a stock kernel on a stock rom.
second option, flash one of the rooted kernels then flash my rom. It'll give you root and busybox (through my rom) and recovery (via bubby's kernel).
Both ways get you stock + recovery + root + stock kernel. hope i helped
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Okay from what I understand, all you want is stock and rooted, correct?
In the development forums, Zedo released a stock with root and cwm. That'll give you exactly what you want.
I know it sounds like shameless self promotion, but I just released 2 roms (deodex and odex) that are stock and rooted with busybox and are also running bubby's kernel (so there's cwm recovery), found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284511
Either way you'll end up with a stock rom and root with recovery and they're both very stable and easy to use I hope this helped.
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Awesome, thanks Absolut, as well for the help in IRC
stand up guy!
I want to root my phone to get WiFi tether.
I am confused. What is the best way to root the phone? I see a Zedomax Vid on youtube which links to a "version 1" file.
Can anyone post a link for the best way to root right now?
If I root the phone, is that the same as installing a custom ROM?
I want a custom rom eventually once they have been worked out a bit longer.
Right now, I just want to be rooted for wifi tether.
Thanks in advance and sorry for such basic questions, but I am getting a bit confused I as read through the forums.
My main concern with rooting the ET4g is the flash counter that I have read about here. I had my evo4g rooted so I'm not new to this but I am for the ET4g...Do these pre-rooted kernals replace the stock kernal? Will there eventually be a method to keep the stock kernal and root the phone? Will there be a way to bypass the flash counter built into the rooting process/a custom ROM? I want to have those questions answered before I root my phone b/c I don't want something to go wrong and then I can't get it replaced through sprint. The only reason I would want root is for wifi tethering...custom roms maybe but at this point I see no reason aside from random bugs that I would need a custom rom. Anyways sorry to jack this thread. I figured it was a similar question.
Edit: And maybe this thread should be moved into the questions section
painkillaz said:
My main concern with rooting the ET4g is the flash counter that I have read about here. I had my evo4g rooted so I'm not new to this but I am for the ET4g...Do these pre-rooted kernals replace the stock kernal? Will there eventually be a method to keep the stock kernal and root the phone? Will there be a way to bypass the flash counter built into the rooting process/a custom ROM? I want to have those questions answered before I root my phone b/c I don't want something to go wrong and then I can't get it replaced through sprint. The only reason I would want root is for wifi tethering...custom roms maybe but at this point I see no reason aside from random bugs that I would need a custom rom. Anyways sorry to jack this thread. I figured it was a similar question.
Edit: And maybe this thread should be moved into the questions section
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You can flash a rooted kernel, then flash the stock to get back to the stock kernel and still be rooted. Both kernels are available in the developers section of this site. As far as the flash count goes - I'm not sure if there is a way to reset the counter.
chunology said:
You can flash a rooted kernel, then flash the stock to get back to the stock kernel and still be rooted. Both kernels are available in the developers section of this site. As far as the flash count goes - I'm not sure if there is a way to reset the counter.
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Yes there is its called a jig ..... Google samsung usb jig they are cheap but there are 2 counters and there may be no way to wipe the 2nd one
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azmtbiker said:
I want to root my phone to get WiFi tether.
I am confused. What is the best way to root the phone? I see a Zedomax Vid on youtube which links to a "version 1" file.
Can anyone post a link for the best way to root right now?
If I root the phone, is that the same as installing a custom ROM?
I want a custom rom eventually once they have been worked out a bit longer.
Right now, I just want to be rooted for wifi tether.
Thanks in advance and sorry for such basic questions, but I am getting a bit confused I as read through the forums.
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Use Zedomax's method - I only say this because he includes the flash utility (ODIN) and a rooted .tar as well as a helpful step by step video.
You do NOT need to install a custom ROM to root - you can use odin to flash just the kernel.
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Use Zedomax's method - I only say this because he includes the flash utility (ODIN) and a rooted .tar as well as a helpful step by step video.
You do NOT need to install a custom ROM to root - you can use odin to flash just the kernel.
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Thanks for the reply. Should i use the method as on youtube with "version 1" link or is there an updated version?
azmtbiker said:
Thanks for the reply. Should i use the method as on youtube with "version 1" link or is there an updated version?
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Go HERE and use that version.. it is just the rooted stock kernel with a few tweaks. There are also links in that thread for ODIN (the flash utility) and Samsung Kies (you'll need to install this to obtain the proper drivers for your device) as well as a step by step method.
Hey guys. I actually don't even have this phone yet but will be getting it shortly. I definitely want to root it (I have a rooted EVO 4G and Xoom tablet) I'm a little confused though about the different methods I'm seeing.
My goal is to obtain a fully rooted phone w/ stock everything. What is the best method to do this?
ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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Sorry for the noob question but when I watch Qbking's video on this kernel he says you need to be rooted and have CWM installed to flash the kernel. But what you're saying is this kernel can provide root, add CWM and flash the kernel if you use Odin to do it? If so, I'm right in saying I'd want to download the TAR file rather than the ZIP? For root, would I need to flash SuperUser via CWM or is it built into the kernel?
I've been thinking about jumping into root soon to try out the Starburst ROM and I've evaluating the cleanest way to gain Root + CWM. I was thinking about using Bubby's method, but this seems solid too if my assumptions above are correct. This would be my first Android root by the way so I'm being patient and extra careful.
I just got this phone recently and rooted it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268548
thats a really good place to start. but to be honest every time you use odin and you flash a kernal in odin you'll get an annoying Yellow triangle that pops up in the beggining. So Your best bet is to flash to a kernal to gain root then flash the kernal from the unroot tutorial as if your unrooting the phone it wont remove superuser.apk automatically, and it will remove the yellow triangle, then from that point just use either cwm or the zimage flasher from adb to do it.
My recommended steps are
this one first for gaining root
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kExN-Y2pfxA
then this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySskTt-S-cM
Follow links in youtube description.
after you do that, don't use odin anymore just use cwm and that adb script for changing kernals and you'll never get that annoying triangle again.
Also be aware that everytime you flash with odin the phones bootloader records that you flashed it, meaning even if you take it back to stock if sprint wants to look at it for warranty purposes they can still see that you did something to it. which means that youll need a $2 jig to wipe that count which I don't even know where that is.
If you can use a temp root thats used for 2.3 gingerbread on other devices then use second link in youtube to avoid using odin, I kinda wished I knew before because then I would have done some more experimenting with the phone. so annoying, I have control of this device and at the same time not which really sucks!
Edit BTW: Why use the starburst rom it doesnt really look that snazy to me for me to consider jumping to it the stock one works great why not just flash a deodex stock one and flash a theme to it, theres some really sick themes in the theme section of xda check it out! XD
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ODIN this and you will get CWM, root, Ive found the LOStkernel to be a lot better than stock.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1296348
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I had some wake lag (about 2 second delay between pressing the power button and screen turning on) with the LoStKernel, so I've been running this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1284511
It's been working well for me so far. You'll have to get root access first, so try out the LoStKernel to gain root access and if you don't like it switch to this.
I have a T-Mobile Galaxy S2. Rooted it withe hercules tar kernel on Android 2.3. When I upgraded to JB the kernel no longer worked (couldn't root). I tried flashing Cyangoen 10.0 and 9.0 but neither wokred (Waited 20 minutes and nothing). Is there a kernel I need to flash with ODIN?
Also, looking for a good place to learn abot kernels in genral.
Many thanks.
FezK
FezK said:
I have a T-Mobile Galaxy S2. Rooted it withe hercules tar kernel on Android 2.3. When I upgraded to JB the kernel no longer worked (couldn't root). I tried flashing Cyangoen 10.0 and 9.0 but neither wokred (Waited 20 minutes and nothing). Is there a kernel I need to flash with ODIN?
Also, looking for a good place to learn abot kernels in genral.
Many thanks.
FezK
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Kernel is causing the problem. Flash only kernel which is made for specific rom/android version. follow this if you want to flash via Odin. I recommend you to install CWM because its easy,safe and time saving.
Installed CWM Recovery, tried to flash Cyanogen 9...now it keeps rebooting back into CWM...can't access the Recovery menu. I downloaded the updated kernel. How do I get it flashed?
I was able to connect via ODIN. Can't get recovery-clockwork-touch-6.0.3.1-hercules.tar to flash.
restart your computer log back in and use a different USB port and make sure you have all the DRIVERS for the phone plug it in flash the ODIN CWM file then you should flash an ICS ROM then flash JB to avoid any hiccups 2.3.4 is a big jump to JB might be giving you errors and you are rooted correct ?
Thank you. Yes I'm rooted an runnning smoothly with Juggernaut ROM for now. Want to change to Cyanogen 9.0. I'll flash the ODIN CWM file as you recommend. Where can I find a good ICS ROM and JB? Didn't know the jump from 2.3.4 to JB would be so big.
Many thanks.
what do you prefer the more stocky looking approach or you into AOKP/CM if you like stock then anything from PTMR and JAMISON904 are on point and very stable if you want some options and custom stuff look into the CM/AOKP around here in the development forums since you are rooted i would download a nice ICS you wont be on it long so doesnt matter lol and then finally jump ship to JB give it time for the battery to settle in becuase there was nothin like GB as far as the battery life goes this one guy who has amazing work and dedication http://goo.im/devs/Cl3Kener anything on there will do you justice when you get to the JB stage good luck and happy flashing!!
C13Kener DOES have some amazing stuff. Thanks. I see that he has a nice ICS stock ROM (Samsung-Stock-4.1.2-Tiberius-Kernel-1.1.zip). Can I just flash that from recovery or do I need to flash a new kernel via ODIN beforehand? Apprecaite your patience and help.
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C13Kener DOES have some amazing stuff. Thanks. I see that he has a nice ICS stock ROM (Samsung-Stock-4.1.2-Tiberius-Kernel-1.1.zip). Can I just flash that from recovery or do I need to flash a new kernel via ODIN beforehand? Apprecaite your patience and help.
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I think there is some confusion here. A ROM is not the same thing as a kernel.
I think thats where I'm having trouble. I have an older kernel (recovery-cwm-hercules.tar) and need to upgrade it before I can flash an ICS ROM. Don't know where to find kernels for the ROMS I want to flash. I thought some ROMs came with the kernel embedded in their zipfile, but finding thats not the case. ODIN is fairly easy to use, but I don't know where to find the right kernels for ROMs like Cyanogen.
FezK said:
I think thats where I'm having trouble. I have an older kernel (recovery-cwm-hercules.tar) and need to upgrade it before I can flash an ICS ROM. Don't know where to find kernels for the ROMS I want to flash. I thought some ROMs came with the kernel embedded in their zipfile, but finding thats not the case. ODIN is fairly easy to use, but I don't know where to find the right kernels for ROMs like Cyanogen.
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Recovery is a tool used to flash ROMs and do backups.
TWRP and CWM are recoveries.
ROMs are the operating system of the phone. They come with a kernel. The kernel is what boots the phone into the OS. You can flash a different kernel if it matches the type of ROM you are on. I hope that clears up some of the confusion.