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[Q] UK Galaxy Nexus 4G?

Hi all, I had a look around on Google but couldn't find any reports on this. I think I know the answer to this but is the UK Galaxy Nexus 4G capable?
I noticed on an fcc diagram that the device had both HSPA+ and LTE receivers.
Am i correct to assume that the GN can be used on a 4G network in the UK (As soon as they bring it over here that is)
Cheers guys,

No. There is a GSM/HSPA+ version (being sold in the UK now) and a CDMA/LTE version (being sold soon in the US). That's it, no GSM/LTE version as of now.
There aren't any LTE networks in the UK anyways?

Cheers, yeah that's what I thought. I bought my Galaxy Nexus 2 days ago now - would of been good to have the option though.
Yes you are correct - As I said before, not LTE support in UK yet Probably not until 2013.

They are testing 4G in London as we speak. Hopefully the test will continue to grow and cover a wider area soon.
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[Info] Cheaper, better Galaxy Nexus for AT&T and T-Mobile

For those people on US GSM carriers (AT&T and T-Mobile) who can't or don't want to switch to Verizon and are waiting for or interested in a Galaxy Nexus cheaper, better than an imported GN, read on.
This purpose of this thread is to compile some data for turning a Verizon Galaxy Nexus into a working phone for GSM carriers. This thread will be updated often. The Verizon GN might turn out to be cheaper and better than importing a $700 phone if we turn a Verizon GN (dual CDMA/LTE) into a phone for GSM with some hacking and tinkering.
Think about it. So far, the main differences between the international and Verizon GN are:
International Galaxy Nexus
GSM/HSPA+
16GB storage
1750 mHz battery
slightly thinner than Verizon GN
$700 (imported, unlocked)
Verizon Galaxy Nexus
CDMA/LTE
32GB storage
1850 mHz battery
slightly bulkier than GSM GN
$199 (2-year contract, data, rumored)
Overall, the Verizon GN appeals more because of the bigger storage (which is better because of the lack of SD card or USB mass storage support), 1850 mHz battery (more juice), and LTE (which you can always turn off by rooting if you don't like the battery drain).
Ultimately, if we can early terminate the Verizon contract and fully unlock the Verizon GN with some hacking and tinkering, we may be able to get a cheaper, better, fully functional 32GB, LTE supporting Galaxy Nexus for the people on GSM carriers.
All we need to confirm is if the Verizon Galaxy Nexus has the hardware that can support the GSM bands. Google and Samsung have said that all Galaxy Nexus variants are penta-band (which might mean support for GSM in the Verizon GN).
Questions that are already answered:
1. Does the Verizon Galaxy Nexus have a SIM-card slot?
Yes, it does. See here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPzoSgTYxc4
The regular SIM can be resized and works in a micro SIM slot. See here:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/09/how-to-resize-your-sim-and-drink-the-sweet-nectar-of-mobile-fre/
Questions that need answering:
1. Can you use a GSM sim card in a Verizon GN (dual CDMA/LTE)?
dnlsmy said:
I don't think so, but the Radio on my GSM Galaxy Nexus is defaulted to GSM/CDMA Auto, so it may be possible. I think it might just be calls and no data though, or maybe edge speeds. Actually, I don't think it will be at all possible IMHO.
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Raibyn said:
The Verizon Galaxy Nexus will definitely have a SIM card slot. All LTE phones have to have a SIM. Even some non-LTE Verizon phones have a spot for a SIM card and have a GSM radio for use as a world phone. However, I thought I read somewhere that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus will not be a world phone, which would indicate no support for GSM networks.
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JCopernicus said:
Verizon model is SCH i515. (No GSM)
International Model (GSM out already) is i9250 (pentaband)
2nd GSM Models is i9250T (850/1900 - ATT compatible only)
3rd GSM i9250M (pentaband)
So, by stealing a phone from Verizion you will have a phone that you'd have to imei fake in order to use on another compatible LTE carrier.
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Thanks to these guys above for enlightening the issue, so my conclusion is that
you can't do ***t with a Verizon Galaxy Nexus on GSM carriers. TOO BAD FOR THE PEOPLE ON AT&T and T-MOBILE. JUST BUY THE $700 PHONE with 16 GB, 1750 mHz, and BLAH BLAH.
neok44 said:
the verizon version that passed the FCC has NO GSM bands in it. so this is never happening.
an AT&T ONLY version of the GNex just passed the FCC, so if your on AT&T you can wait and get your own.
if your on t-mobile, go buy the international one or wait god knows how long.
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Solution for people on AT&T:
Wait for release of AT&T version (possibly in Dec., but then again, AT&T just got on the train, so most likely before end of Jan.)
It just cleared FCC
http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2011/12/02/galaxy-nexus-for-att-only-passes-fcc/
Solution for people on T-Mobile:
Buy the international, pentaband GN
I am not responsible for your device and not promoting any hacking

The Verizon version probably won't even have a GSM radio. Or sim card slot.
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I'm not sure that the Verizon variant of the Galaxy Nexus even has a sim-card slot. It's my understanding that CDMA phones usually do not. It wouldn't make any sense for Verizon to put one in their phones.

Sim card slot is present. See here:
youtube watch?v=iPzoSgTYxc4
As for the GSM radio, it's still needs confirmation and it's just rumors at this point. It needs confirmation, people

The Verizon Galaxy Nexus will definitely have a SIM card slot. All LTE phones have to have a SIM. Even some non-LTE Verizon phones have a spot for a SIM card and have a GSM radio for use as a world phone. However, I thought I read somewhere that the Verizon Galaxy Nexus will not be a world phone, which would indicate no support for GSM networks.

psero said:
For those people on US GSM carriers (AT&T and T-Mobile) who can't or don't want to switch to Verizon and are waiting for or interested in a Galaxy Nexus cheaper, better than an imported GN, read on.
This purpose of this thread is to compile some data for turning a Verizon Galaxy Nexus into a working phone for GSM carriers. This thread will be updated often. The Verizon GN might turn out to be cheaper and better than importing a $700 phone if we turn a Verizon GN (dual CDMA/LTE) into a phone for GSM with some hacking and tinkering.
Think about it. So far, the main differences between the international and Verizon GN are:
International Galaxy Nexus
GSM/HSPA+
16GB storage
1750 mHz battery
slightly thinner than Verizon GN
$700 (imported, unlocked)
Verizon Galaxy Nexus
CDMA/LTE
32GB storage
1850 mHz battery
slightly bulkier than GSM GN
$199 (2-year contract, data, rumored)
Overall, the Verizon GN appeals more because of the bigger storage (which is better because of the lack of SD card or USB mass storage support), 1850 mHz battery (more juice), and LTE (which you can always turn off by rooting if you don't like the battery drain).
Ultimately, if we can early terminate the Verizon contract and fully unlock the Verizon GN with some hacking and tinkering, we may be able to get a cheaper, better, fully functional 32GB, LTE supporting Galaxy Nexus for the people on GSM carriers.
All we need to confirm is if the Verizon Galaxy Nexus has the hardware that can support the GSM bands. Google and Samsung have said that all Galaxy Nexus variants are penta-band (which might mean support for GSM in the Verizon GN).
Questions that need answering:
1. Can you use a GSM sim card in a Verizon GN (dual CDMA/LTE)?
My thoughts on this is that both the GSM GN and CDMA GN are dual GSM/CDMA. Only difference is the HSPA+ for the GSM GN and LTE for the CDMA GN. But ultimately, this is just rumor and we need confirmation that Verizon GN (dual CDMA/LTE) can support GSM bands.
2. Can you terminate the $199 verizon GN as soon as you get it? What is Verizon's early termination policy?
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It has a SIM card for the LTE radio. It has NO GSM radio, it has a CDMA radio (it's not a "worldphone" containing a GSM AND a CDMA radio). It won't operate on a GSM network without a GSM radio.
At best you'll be able to get AT&T's LTE service in the 5 cities that it's live in. I don't know off hand if AT&T does voice over LTE. If they don't you won't get any voice service even in LTE areas.

Dude spent all that time writing this post and the Verizon Nexus doesn't even have GSM radios.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App

Damn.. That would suck for Verizon customers traveling internationally.

Arcadia310 said:
Dude spent all that time writing this post and the Verizon Nexus doesn't even have GSM radios.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA App
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Haha, thanks for your input

mstyle88 said:
Damn.. That would suck for Verizon customers traveling internationally.
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Well this is nothing new for Verizon users. Most people don't travel internationally often, so no big deal. Just pick up a cheap $30 prepaid cell if you go.
Why can't phones made to just work on all carriers? CDMA + GSM Penta-Band. I know some phones have CDMA and GSM (for international on Verizon)... why not just do it right and make it available globally at the same time. Then carriers can subsidy it or not... but it would reduce people from buying on a carrier's subsidy, paying an ETF, and leaving.

psero said:
Haha, thanks for your input
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Hah, it was a good thought if it were a world phone. All signs so far though have said it's not a world phone though.

Verizon model is SCH i515. (No GSM)
International Model (GSM out already) is i9250 (pentaband)
2nd GSM Models is i9250T (850/1900 - ATT compatible only)
3rd GSM i9250M (pentaband)
So, by stealing a phone from Verizion you will have a phone that you'd have to imei fake in order to use on another compatible LTE carrier.

the verizon version that passed the FCC has NO GSM bands in it. so this is never happening.
an AT&T ONLY version of the GNex just passed the FCC, so if your on AT&T you can wait and get your own.
if your on t-mobile, go buy the international one or wait god knows how long.

neok44 said:
the verizon version that passed the FCC has NO GSM bands in it. so this is never happening.
an AT&T ONLY version of the GNex just passed the FCC, so if your on AT&T you can wait and get your own.
if your on t-mobile, go buy the international one or wait god knows how long.
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Odd they would have make an ATT version in addition to the penta band international version. On second thought, I bet ATT version will have LTE as well. That makes the most sense

JCopernicus said:
Verizon model is SCH i515. (No GSM)
International Model (GSM out already) is i9250 (pentaband)
2nd GSM Models is i9250T (850/1900 - ATT compatible only)
3rd GSM i9250M (pentaband)
So, by stealing a phone from Verizion you will have a phone that you'd have to imei fake in order to use on another compatible LTE carrier.
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We don't know that it's AT&T only. FCC doesn't seem to test GSM900 and 1800, so it could have those. It's definitely missing AWS though.

Chirality said:
We don't know that it's AT&T only. FCC doesn't seem to test GSM900 and 1800, so it could have those. It's definitely missing AWS though.
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T = Australia/Mexico
M = Canada
Looks like the US still won't be getting a GSM version officially for a little bit longer.

Update: It seems the Verizon GN is a global phone:
http://www.phonebuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/galaxy-nexus-verizon-32gb.jpg

Isn't IMEI faking discussion illegal here? Reported.

psero said:
Update: It seems the Verizon GN is a global phone:
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Don't see where it says it works on anything but Verizon on that.
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psero said:
Update: It seems the Verizon GN is a global phone:
http://www.phonebuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/galaxy-nexus-verizon-32gb.jpg
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It is only going to work on a CDMA network and what the chart means that it is global on any international network that supports CDMA (which there are many that I cannot think of off the top of my head).

Galaxy Nexus on AT&T

Whos going to get the galaxy nexus if it comes to AT&T. That lte might make a big difference between getting the att version and the international version.

Jerol7190 said:
Whos going to get the galaxy nexus if it comes to AT&T. That lte might make a big difference between getting the att version and the international version.
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Would rather get the one x on att by the time it comes out
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pewpewbangbang said:
Would rather get the one x on att by the time it comes out
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But The One X doesn't have as much support as the Galaxy nexus does right now. That phone is still relatively new.

One X will never have the support like our Gnex because Gnex is a developer's phone and a damn good one at that

Jerol7190 said:
Whos going to get the galaxy nexus if it comes to AT&T. That lte might make a big difference between getting the att version and the international version.
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I have the international version on AT&T and it is amazing. I would prefer an unlocked, unbranded Nexus on AT&T over at LTE one any day.

aptmx said:
I have the international version on AT&T and it is amazing. I would prefer an unlocked, unbranded Nexus on AT&T over at LTE one any day.
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Amen to that!

aptmx said:
I have the international version on AT&T and it is amazing. I would prefer an unlocked, unbranded Nexus on AT&T over at LTE one any day.
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Amen to that! I had a AT&T Galaxy Note the boat ware was horrible. Half the crap nobody would ever touch, I dont get it lol. Plus the AT&T branding in silver yuck!
Even though my area only has 4G and not LTE. I think HSPA plus is fine, LTE is overrated IMO.
I have a upgrade due in May, I am thinking about getting a HTC One X to complement my galaxy Nexus. Never tried Sense but would love to give it a test run

Ewwwww. Locked phones.
zippity doo da.

aptmx said:
I have the international version on AT&T and it is amazing. I would prefer an unlocked, unbranded Nexus on AT&T over at LTE one any day.
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Bingo. Unlocked is worth it.

+1 to that
International version's on AT&T rock.

Seeing as how you can get a lightly used (or new) international GNEX for like $350 nowadays (off contract) it's hard to imagine why ANYONE would be waiting for an "official" AT&T version that's ****ted up with bloatware.
No thank you.

pewpewbangbang said:
Would rather get the one x on att by the time it comes out
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
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The OneX is just a generic non-Nexus Android phone, and it will suffer the same fate AS a generic non-Nexus Android phone.

Jerol7190 said:
Whos going to get the galaxy nexus if it comes to AT&T. That lte might make a big difference between getting the att version and the international version.
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Hold out man..... Just hold out.
killing is my business, and business is good.

i picture the GSM LTE version that will land on AT&T to be just like the VZW version.. sucky battery life and signal issues..
I would rather pick up a One X before picking up a LTE Galaxy Nexus on ATT if that was the choice..
The international version of the One X will have support because it is world wide, rather than tied down to one carrier or having to have a different roms etc. i dont see the lte version having it tho
But the Galaxy Nexus will always have 10x more support since its what Android stands for.. The One X is what HTC wants it to be and for others to work around that

Sorry AT&T users, but I'm sure as soon as you start your LTE Galaxy Nexus expect that throttle text! Its been 1 week on my LTE Nexus and I'm at 4gb!
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Smokeey said:
Sorry AT&T users, but I'm sure as soon as you start your LTE Galaxy Nexus expect that throttle text! Its been 1 week on my LTE Nexus and I'm at 4gb!
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using XDA
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I used 20-30GB on AT&T over and over and I never got a text. Oh yea
More on topic: I think they just need to get the 4th nexus on time. At this point I would buy a unlocked nexus over a "AT&T" nexus any day of the week.

I think what everyone is failing to realize that all GN variants are ether LTE or HSPA+ and not both. I think the ATT variant will be the first one which will do both just like all ATT LTE phones.
That might be worth getting because of that fact. Also, because its GSM it should get full support from Google unlike the cdma nexus phones.
I don't know about you but I might just wait to see what comes out.

obsanity said:
I think what everyone is failing to realize that all GN variants are ether LTE or HSPA+ and not both. I think the ATT variant will be the first one which will do both just like all ATT LTE phones.
That might be worth getting because of that fact. Also, because its GSM it should get full support from Google unlike the cdma nexus phones.
I don't know about you but I might just wait to see what comes out.
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The CDMA Nexus phones still have full support from Google in terms of updates and providing factory images. In the past week they've added factory images of 2.3.7 and 4.0.4 for the Nexus S 4G on Sprint, and once the VZW Gnex gets updated to 4.0.4, I guarantee those factory images will be available as well. In addition, Google has recently provided NS4G and VZW Gnex binaries for AOSP 4.0.3 and 4.0.4.
They only removed code support from AOSP because CDMA is a proprietary platform and the APK signatures for the CDMA functionality are ROM specific. So basically it was impossible to compile a pure AOSP build for a CDMA device that would have a working radio. This was a known problem even before they removed official code support. Those APK signatures have to be recreated with every ROM and the APKs themselves can't be open sourced. This really only affects you if you're trying to create a non-rooted OEM firmware. It's really a non-issue for those of us on XDA in the end.
Now to get back on topic, I agree with you that the AT&T GN would be awesome purely since it'd be a GSM/LTE variant. I'll be interested to see speed tests and how it compares to VZW LTE. I'll also be interested to see if it retains HSPA+ support in case you live in a non-LTE market. It'll also be interesting to see if it works with T-Mobile 3G/HSPA+ or if they remove the T-Mobile bands from the radio entirely and make it a true "AT&T Nexus".

I've got the GSM Nexus on ATT and it works great, except when I manually upgraded to 4.0.4, which had terrible connection and battery issues. I reverted to 4.0.2 and it's working great again. Speed, performance are excellent, no urgency to get an LTE phone just yet, considering the options will have so much bloatware. I can fully recommend the phone, just be cautious about upgrading to 4.0.4 at this point, and be prepared to go back to 4.0.2 if needed. Good luck!

oldblue910 said:
... if they remove the T-Mobile bands from the radio entirely and make it a true "AT&T Nexus".
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This is really sad. Possibly the main reason to get an international GN (and go prepaid).

GNEX HSPA vs I9250 any difference??

So i purchased the GNEX I9250 (international version) im just wondering whats the difference in hardware from the US HSPA version

I believe they are identical.

They're both HSPA. That means the network they run on.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus running Apex

The international one is hspa+ too.
They are the exact same phone, they are both the I9250.
The only different ones are the Verizon and sprint ones. (Cdma/lte)

great thanks for the input, i was doubting my self if i purchased the correct one, im running mine on T-mobile

rsegura77 said:
great thanks for the input, i was doubting my self since if i purchased the correct one, im running mine on T-mobile
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Don't worry it'll work fine. I was using mine on T-Mobile while I was in America for the last month and had no problems. While I had T-Mobile signal anyway but that's another story and not a problem with my phone more of a problem with American carriers.

I also have small question. I just got my Galaxy Nexus direct from google. When loking at the ROM threads and whatnot, should i be using the GSM roms? Are they for the international version only, or are they safe to use on my straight google nexus.
Just didn't know if their was anything different about this than the GSM one that has been around for a while.

splitfinity said:
I also have small question. I just got my Galaxy Nexus direct from google. When loking at the ROM threads and whatnot, should i be using the GSM roms? Are they for the international version only, or are they safe to use on my straight google nexus.
Just didn't know if their was anything different about this than the GSM one that has been around for a while.
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The international one is GSM, yours is GSM, yours is international. Gravy!

same thing all GSMs are pentaband.

Global software upgrade?

Just ordered a Galaxy,then saw the Verizon release about the Razr getting a software upgrade for global capabilities. Called Verizon and was told no such upgrade possible/planned for Galaxy, so I cancelled order for Galaxy..... Very disappointed Galaxy cannot be made global capable! I travel overseas a lot and global capabilities feature of the Razr is a compelling reason to pick that phone, even though I like the Galaxy better. Is there any way to get global capability on Galaxy?

Ditch Verizon and get a GSM galaxy nexus.
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griffis said:
Just ordered a Galaxy,then saw the Verizon release about the Razr getting a software upgrade for global capabilities. Called Verizon and was told no such upgrade possible/planned for Galaxy, so I cancelled order for Galaxy..... Very disappointed Galaxy cannot be made global capable! I travel overseas a lot and global capabilities feature of the Razr is a compelling reason to pick that phone, even though I like the Galaxy better. Is there any way to get global capability on Galaxy?
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Because the Verizon galaxy nexus has no GSM radio.
The razr has GSM and CDMA radios.
Like the poster above me said, ditch Verizon and buy an.unlocked GSM gnex from the google play store. Problem sorted.

nodstuff said:
Because the Verizon galaxy nexus has no GSM radio.
The razr has GSM and CDMA radios.
Like the poster above me said, ditch Verizon and buy an.unlocked GSM gnex from the google play store. Problem sorted.
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Galaxy Nexus AOKP m5 Franco kernel m3