Hello
I am using ARHD 6.1.2 and i have a radio flashing problem.
I start the cmd and write "adb reboot bootloader" and when it is in bootloader i type "fastboot flash radio radio.img"
then it starts to flash. Everything is okay before the writing part starts. It says FAILED Remote: not allowed
Radio is 12.62.60.27_26.13.04.19_M.
What should i do?
When i go to the bootloader it says ACE PVT SHIP S-OFF, so that means i have radio s-off anfd eng s-off?
please help me!
I believe this means that you don't have ENG S-OFF. I flashed that same radio yesterday with the same method and it worked fine.
thank U very much.
My friend told me wrong then.
So i downloaded the eng s-off tool and everything went fine.
Hi How do u get the S-OFF tool to work on ARHD6.1.2/3 ?
I tried and it says "Incompatible kernel"
best way to flash without ENG OFF IS TO DOWNLOAD THE RADIO FILES IN "PD98IMG.ZIP" format (search the forum for them) place them in root folder of sd card power off the phone then holding vol down and power key enter the bootloader the device automatically prompts for radio update press vol up button voila you are done. most important is you make sure you checksum the file after you copy to to sd card...
Thanks tommy , i tried that and it worked.
Just curious, is there any way to get Eng Bootloader and Radio S-Off once I am on AR HD 6.1.3? Those tools seems to only work on the stock rom.
zereox said:
Thanks tommy , i tried that and it worked.
Just curious, is there any way to get Eng Bootloader and Radio S-Off once I am on AR HD 6.1.3? Those tools seems to only work on the stock rom.
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this method worked for me
i ran the tool as administrator on windows 7, clicked "I have radio s-off" (which you must already have since you have a custom rom on your phone) then clicked "s-off it!" and it was done.
read the thread thoroughly before trying, YMMV
Ah thanks maatsby! Guess all i needed to do was tick the checkbox.
My bad for not reading the requirements clearly.
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Just got the DHD from an Ebay seller in Korea. He claimed the phone is unlocked and it was previous lock from KT-Olleh(Korean provider). Haven't got a chance to try out any sim since I am still at work.
I did searched and seem like the seller did perform the One click Radio S-OFF tool. Here are the info from the bootloader screen:
ACE PVT ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-0.84.2000 (PD9815000)
MICROP-0438
RADIO-26.03.02.26_M
eMMC-boot
Sep 8 2010
SYSTEM INFO:
CID-11111111
So is it unlocked? A few searched said it's only CID unlock, I'm not sure what that meant....Thanks for the help in advance.
If he followed the process normally, using the first option like it says in the guide, your phone is sim unlocked.
He has used Radio S-OFF and ENG S-OFF tools.
jkoljo said:
If he followed the process normally, using the first option like it says in the guide, your phone is sim unlocked.
He has used Radio S-OFF and ENG S-OFF tools.
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Thanks for the help. Is this the first option you're talking about?
So, in detail, the Root & S-OFF process goes like this:
Install Visionary
Open Visionary and tap temproot, then attempt permroot now. Your device will reboot.
Connect your phone to a computer (make sure you have USB Debugging enabled. Connect charge only!)
Open my "Desire HD easy radio tool.exe" (Windows 7, right click & run as administrator), choose the first option, click "Do it"! There may be a SuperUser request on your phone, allow it.
Done. (Remember to click the thanks button)
But you might want to continue if you are a new user:
If you want to flash a radio (to improve signal and battery life) some day, do ENG S-OFF (no need to use Visionary again, just run the tool)
To flash a custom rom: Get Rom manager from the market, which will install a ClockWorkMod recovery for you. Just open it up and tap "Flash ClockworkMod recovery"
Download a custom ROM, put it to your SD, and flash it using Rom manager or ClockworkMod itself. You can access ClockworkMod through Rom manager. It is recommended to do "wipe data / factory reset" in ClockworkMod before installing ROM from SD card.
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got it from your thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857537
I will have to do this step if i find out its still locked.
Yeah, that's it. If it is locked, you can also use the SimUnlock option in the tool instead of the first option.
Hi,
I just need a confirmation, that i am doing it right. I need to get back to stock ROM... For gaining back warranty. Because this problem with camera (i already post it on thread) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358239
My HBOOT is and its not rooted (dont see superuser icon )
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-off
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:10
....
1. I download from http://alpharev.nl/ : Bravo Downgrader // 6c482ccfa6b7093de4ee1a5804ccbdfc// bravo_downgrade.img PB99IMG_downgrade
Do i need some more information about my MD5SUM ? Or something like that...
2. Put that file on ROOT of phone and rename it to PB99IMG.zip ..
3. Then i go in hboot and start that file.. with fastboot
4. after that finished i connect phone with computer and start RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed or
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe (i preffer this because in newer? , is that right )
After that phone should be back on stock rom and have valid warranty??
Am i right HOW TO DO IT, or i need more infomration, about KERNEL or stuff like that? Maybe it's a noob queston but i need little help
ratluci said:
Hi,
I just need a confirmation, that i am doing it right. I need to get back to stock ROM... For gaining back warranty. Because this problem with camera (i already post it on thread) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1358239
My HBOOT is and its not rooted (dont see superuser icon )
BRAVO PVT3 SHIP S-off
HBOOT-6.93.1002
MICROP-051d
TOUCH PANEL-SYNT0101
RADIO-5.11.05.27
Aug 10 2010, 17:52:10
....
1. I download from http://alpharev.nl/ : Bravo Downgrader // 6c482ccfa6b7093de4ee1a5804ccbdfc// bravo_downgrade.img PB99IMG_downgrade
Do i need some more information about my MD5SUM ? Or something like that...
2. Put that file on ROOT of phone and rename it to PB99IMG.zip ..
3. Then i go in hboot and start that file.. with fastboot
4. after that finished i connect phone with computer and start RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.00.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed or
RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00.32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe (i preffer this because in newer? , is that right )
After that phone should be back on stock rom and have valid warranty??
Am i right HOW TO DO IT, or i need more infomration, about KERNEL or stuff like that? Maybe it's a noob queston but i need little help
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You have to decide which method to use to flash the downgrader. Eather you download the PB99IMG.zip file and put it to your SDCARD root and boot the phone into hboot or you flash the bravo_downgrade.img file using a PC (via fastboot utility).
If you decide to flash via fastboot then check that MD5 sum of the downloaded .img file matches that specified in the alpharev's site.
I think that's easier to put PB99IMG.zip on root and to do that only with phone... So ill do it that way..
Then what?
I start RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe on computer?
ratluci said:
I think that's easier to put PB99IMG.zip on root and to do that only with phone... So ill do it that way..
Then what?
I start RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe on computer?
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Yes. Just follow the video in STEP ONE here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1016084
P.S. You might need a goldcard if you have a branded phone.
No i don't have branded phone... So i don't need goldcard..
Thanks a lot for help..
I copied PB99IMG.zip to root of SD. Turned off phone.
Started hboot mode (voldown + power).
He show me now i think, not sure 100% ...
now HBOOT-6.93.9999 (was 6.93.1002) still s-off and with highlight pink AlphaRev Unlock.
He showed me
parsing...(SD ZIP)
(1) BOOTLOADER
Do you want to start update?
yes
no
I press yes then says bootloader - OK
Do you want to reboot device?
yes
And thats it? Am i doing it right? What now, to start on computer RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.29.405.5_Radio_32.49.00. 32U_5.11.05.27_release_159811_signed.exe ???
Yes, that's it. After rebooting, put your phone into fastboot mode, connect it to computer via USB and run the downloaded RUU.exe on your computer.
I have succeeded to get back factory settings.
I was hoping that camera will be back to normal, but problem stays.
I flashed same ROM that was on my phone.
Then i tried to flahs older ROM RUU_Bravo_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.10.405.2_R_Radio_32.44.0 0.32U_5.09.05.30_2_release_142828_signed.
But it says error 104 cannot update , something like that.. How to pass that?
Will flashing older ROM maybe repair my camera?
Try 2.3.3 RUU from HTC Developer Center:
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
Thanks for helping..
If I update to 2.3.3 (and problem with camera disappear, and dont need to get warranty) can i root my phone after , i've read on net that its difficult to do that?
Or can i easily downgrade to 2.2 and then root?
After flashing 2.3.3 RUU you can get S-OFF and root for Gingerbread in two very easy steps thanks to revolutionary:
http://revolutionary.io
But read documentary very careful before doing anything!
I flash it to 2.3.3 and problem with camera stays...
After i done upgrade i realesed that SIM-Unlock Utility http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=943726 wont work on 2.3.3 gingerbread...
arghh...
I didn't wont to unlock it when was on 2.2. Before i take phone to official service to check camera, and see if it's fixable. Because unlocking possibile will break my warranty..
So is there any way to downgrade it to 2.2 again, and perform unlock after phone goes to official service... or maybe will unlock simply work on 2.3.3 when i try later
You can try one of 2.2. RUU and start over again.
Hello, i have flashed new ROM on my phone (DHD) ROM - ARHD 6.3.1
then i wanted to flash radio too. I did it like is written at instructions, but i have a problem.
When i wrote to black command prompt "fastboot flash radio radio.img
It wrote: sending -> done
writing "radio" -> failed <remote: not allowed>
Can you help me what to do please? of course i had USB debuging enabled.
It sounds like you don't have ENG S-OFF on your DHD - to flash any file using the fastboot.exe method, you need ENG S-OFF.
See this thread to flash an engineering hboot to your phone and get ENG S-OFF:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=855403
Or this thread for an alternative way to flash radios without replacing the hboot on your phone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054304
Hope that helps.
I hadn't S-OFF thank you!
But i dont understand why, i have custom ROM so i had to do ENG S-OFF, didnt I?
You have SHIP S-OFF. Not ENG S-OFF.
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Yes, thank you
i am beginner in this, i dont know many things about it. Its too many informations for me right know, so excuse me please
Well you got as far as rooting your phone and flashing a custom ROM, so you're doing good. Mind you, a search on the error message would have turned up lots of results, so it's always a good idea to search first before asking questions.
SHIP S-OFF (also called Radio S-OFF) is a way of changing a security setting on your phone that allows you to write to parts of your phone's memory that are usually protected, such as the system partition where the ROM is. It also allows you to set the "Super CID" which allows carrier-locked phones to work on any network. However it doesn't allow you to use fastboot.exe to flash things to your phone.
ENG S-OFF is a complete replacement for the normal hboot (or bootloader) on your phone. It's an engineering version of hboot, and pretty much allows you to write to any part of your phone's memory, including using the fastboot.exe tool - which allows you to flash radios from the command line.
They're both ways of removing security on your phone, but they work in slightly different ways and complement each other.
You only need SHIP S-OFF to flash a custom ROM, but you need ENG S-OFF to flash a radio - unless you use the PD98IMG.ZIP file method from the second thread I linked. That will work with just SHIP S-OFF, since it doesn't make use of the fastboot.exe tool.
Hope that helps a bit rather than confuses things further.
Hi there !
I would like to S-OFF or unlock bootloader of my Orange FR branded WFS. HTCdevs method does note seem to work, ROM or bootloader is too wreid and not supported by official orange hboot updater from htcdevs. After some tricks (goldcard I guess), I succeed in installing "Europe hboot" from htcdevs, but it doesn't help in any way : fastboot oem command returns an error 1, command error . Hboot might be too old to know these commands.
By searching on XDA, I found a tool called temproot that allows me to root the phone until I reboot it.
my HBoot version is 0.90.0000 and radio 7.53.39.03M.
MARVEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL.
HTC drivers, andro SDK, Java, debuging mode,... are probably ok. I use Windows 7x64 and Linux Mint.
I think I said everything. If you want more details or explainations, I'll do my best to answer preciselly, even if I'm a noob .
Thanks !
KennyG9
KennyG9 said:
After some tricks (goldcard I guess), I succeed in installing "Europe hboot" from htcdevs...
...my HBoot version is 0.90.0000
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The unlockable European HBOOT is version 1.08.0099, so I take this to mean that you successfully updated to a generic EU HBOOT (0.90.0000) which is not unlockable, but can be updated to 1.08.0099. Thus,
KennyG9 said:
it doesn't help in any way : fastboot oem command returns an error 1, command error .
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So you need to go back to htcdev and update your HBOOT to the unlockable one. When you do, HBOOT will show:
*** LOCKED (OOW) ***
H-BOOT-1.08.0099
CafeKampuchia said:
The unlockable European HBOOT is version 1.08.0099, so I take this to mean that you successfully updated to a generic EU HBOOT (0.90.0000) which is not unlockable, but can be updated to 1.08.0099. Thus,So you need to go back to htcdev and update your HBOOT to the unlockable one.
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Thanks for (very) fast answer and making me realize that I successfuly downgraded my HBoot (that's what I was searching to do).
I believed that it should allow me to upgrade with unlockable HBoot too, but I forgot to say that when I try to update HBOOT the way htcdev tells using their HTC_EU-1.09.0099 / ORANGE_FR-1.09.0099 / Any 1.08.0099 HBoot, I get an error 191, my ROM is NOT up to date. I have no ROM update possible with my f****** provider custom ROM. Is it possible to change this ROM to the official HTC ROM (using my temp rooting and adb shell or I don't know what), so that I can get last updates, flash HBoot with HTC_EU-1.09.0099 and get custom ROM (such as CM7.2) ?
Or I am thinking wrong on the way it works (probably the case : I learned everything alone) ?
Edit : I believe that this would have worked, if the given link weren't dead.......... Uploading website are all closed. That's a shame.
Thank you,
KennyG9
Try this:
1. Run the RUU...exe for updating the HBOOT again but don't try to update. Instead, find the temporary folder it created to extract the files needed for the install. It will look something like C:\Users\[LoginName]\AppData\Local\Temp\{82B23FCD-D5D0-45CA-A3A2-5350D3926551}.
2. In one of the subfolders, find rom_02.zip from and copy it to another location on your hard drive. Rename it PG76IMG.zip. You can close the RUU wizard now.
3. Move PG76IMG.zip to the root folder of your Goldcard.
4. Boot the phone into HBOOT (turn it off, pull the battery for 5 sec. and replace it, hold down volume and press the power button). Once in HBOOT, the phone will find PG76IMG.zip and try to install it. Follow the directions on the screen.
5. Do a factory reset and reboot.
CafeKampuchia said:
Try this:
1. Run the RUU...exe for updating the HBOOT again but don't try to update. Instead, find the temporary folder it created to extract the files needed for the install. It will look something like C:\Users\[LoginName]\AppData\Local\Temp\{82B23FCD-D5D0-45CA-A3A2-5350D3926551}.
2. In one of the subfolders, find rom_02.zip from and copy it to another location on your hard drive. Rename it PG76IMG.zip. You can close the RUU wizard now.
3. Move PG76IMG.zip to the root folder of your Goldcard.
4. Boot the phone into HBOOT (turn it off, pull the battery for 5 sec. and replace it, hold down volume and press the power button). Once in HBOOT, the phone will find PG76IMG.zip and try to install it. Follow the directions on the screen.
5. Do a factory reset and reboot.
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It worked finally . You're so beautiful !
For interested people, you can get rom_01.zip and rom_02.zip. It corresponds to PG7610000_Marvel_hboot_1.09.0099_0209_R.exe file. (Orange FR 2.14.73.1 PG7610000)
Thank you very very much.
Kenny
Glad it worked. Tap the thanks button for me, if you don't mind
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Glad it worked. Tap the thanks button for me, if you don't mind
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I forgot. Done .
software s-off????
After spending 3 days trying to upgrade my hboot so i could unlock my bootloader, i somehow ended up with s-off! here are the steps i followed.
1) try updates from htcdev - didnt work
2) made goldcard, tried updates - didnt work
3) gained temp root using adb and zergrush, worked
4) hex edited the rom version number - didnt work
5) placed rom_2 on sd card - worked, sort of, updated the radio, but not the bootloader, "cannot rollback hboot"
6) placed rom_1 on sd card -worked, updated the radio
7) went into hboot to try to flash rom_2 again, voila! s-off!!!!
dont ask me if this is a way to s-off devices without xtc clip, all i know is it is what has worked for me, so i thought i would share.
Marvel PVT Ship S-OFF RL
Hboot 0.90.0000
Microp-0451
Radio-7.54.39.08M
Apr 9 2011, 17:45:10
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4. Boot the phone into HBOOT (turn it off, pull the battery for 5 sec. and replace it, hold down volume and press the power button). Once in HBOOT, the phone will find PG76IMG.zip and try to install it. Follow the directions on the screen.
5. Do a factory reset and reboot.
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How can you pull battery??!?! With HTC ONE V? YOu have to remove the cover with screws? Will you loose warranty if you do?
samkuiper9 said:
How can you pull battery??!?! With HTC ONE V? YOu have to remove the cover with screws? Will you loose warranty if you do?
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First of all, this is an old thread. This is the WILDFIRE S forum. Why would he talk about the one v here?
Sent from my Wildfire S A510e using xda premium
unlock and root htc wildfire s
can anyone suggest me how to unlock n root htc wildfire version 1.09.0099
MARVEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-1.09.0099
MICROP-0451
RADIO-7.57.39.10M
Lol, nice way to revive a dead thread.
Go to HTCDev.com, the "Unlock Bootloader section", and follow the instructions.
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"You can overclock as much as you want, your phone will always seem too slow."
Hi,
This is how you downgrade a Desire/Bravo with the HBOOT 1.02.0001 already installed, - this method is appropriate for people who need to downgrade the HBOOT for unlock purposes. I struggled for ages on this and once I found the method thought i'd post it around the internet as I couldn't find this info anywhere.
-Summary of steps-
1)Turn S-Off + Update HBOOT
2)Downgrade HBOOT to 0.93.0001 (Turns S-ON)
I have personally tested this and it worked perfectly without any problems. However flashing anything to your phone is done at your own risk, & I accept no responsability for your device.
--Step 1--
Download and run the Revolutionary tool here http://revolutionary.io/ to turn S-Off - Follow the steps on their website for how to do this if you get stuck.
Once you have run the Revolutionary tool, when it asks if you want to install the Clockworkmod recovery press no.
You will now have an S-Off phone running HBOOT 6.93.1002
--Step 2--
Format a microSD card, download the following zip file and save it to your memory card.
http://www.mediafire.com/download/dyyn35zm07x2x7a/PB99IMG.zip LINK UPDATED 2 JAN 2013
You should now have a single file on your memory card named PB99IMG.zip
--Step 3--
Put the microSD card back in your phone and hold 'VOL+DOWN + ACTION' and press the power button to get to the HBOOT menu. Wait around 10 seconds (give or take) and the phone will detect the update and ask you to install it, Select yes to install then reboot your phone back into the HBOOT menu.
You will now have an S-On phone with the 0.93.0001 HBOOT
--Step4-- IF THIS STEP APPLIES TO YOU FOR UNLOCKING
Unlock with XTC-Clip as you normally would - Creating goldcard with 0.93.X001 HBOOT.
Your phone will now be unlocked.[/QUOTE]
NOTE: You can do the official updates through the phone as normal without loosing your unlock
Hope you find this info useful
what ruu (PB99IMG) is it?
what if someone has an orange branded phone, coz there is no ruu for it and they would need a goldcard.
what about people from different regions coz theres different ruu's for different regions aswell and they would need a gold card.
edit: its a hboot.img, thought it was an ruu.
did u try this yet? does it work?
normaly when u change hboots u have to format partitions. if u go to the trouble of getting s-off then why not just run the correct ruu for ur device, just to be safe.
Sent from my HTC Desire
jmcclue said:
what ruu (PB99IMG) is it?
what if someone has an orange branded phone, coz there is no ruu for it and they would need a goldcard.
what about people from different regions coz theres different ruu's for different regions aswell and they would need a gold card.
edit: its a hboot.img, thought it was an ruu.
did u try this yet? does it work?
normaly when u change hboots u have to format partitions. if u go to the trouble of getting s-off then why not just run the correct ruu for ur device, just to be safe.
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Hi,
It souldn't matter what network the phone is on - The HBoot was taken from a WWE RUU & I tested it with a UK Vodaphone branded desire which worked. I used this method to unlock a 1.02.0001 phone which isnt supported by xtc hence the downgrade needed. You shouldn't need a goldcard for the downgrade part as running the revolutionary tool will switch s-off, after applying the downgraded hboot it will turn s-on but as you will be on the old 0.93.0001 hboot you can just create the goldcard with xtc and complete the unlock if this step applies to you - it probably does as I dont know another reason for downgrading to this HBOOT.
Running the downgrade will wipe the phone - it did atleast with mine.
The reason I couldnt run an RUU to downgrade the hboot after turning s-off is because revolutionarys tool adds some protection to prevent hboot flashing via RUU & fastboot. The only way I could find to do it was to flash it directly from the SD card.
As for the other regions you may be right and need a local hboot - I'm not able to test this as I only ever get UK phones to unlock. If it is the case the HBOOT which you want to downgrade to can always be extracted from a local RUU and added to your own update.zip (named correctly of course) - The network branded phones on the other hand should make no difference - as s is off, so a UK orange, vodafone etc will take the hboot from WWE RUU aslong as s is off. (This is why its neccessary to run revolutionary first)
Hope this info helps.
cool. just so u know to unlock the hboot 6.93.1002 u have to flash the Alpharev downgrader img, that way it can be overwritten by an ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire
jmcclue said:
cool. just so u know to unlock the hboot 6.93.1002 u have to flash the Alpharev downgrader img, that way ut can be overwritten by an ruu
Sent from my HTC Desire
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Hi,
Thanks for mensioning that, I did actually run the Alpharev downgrader as part of the process but completely forgot to add that step ( I wrote the tutorial after doing it not during ) With me though after running the alpharev downgrade the hboot still wouldnt downgrade from the ruu - also tried manually flashing with fastboot but got various errors (something to do with usb something or other - maby it was just my usb's playing up again as they occasionaly do) so for me I still had to do the sd card way but if you find it works for you with the ruu then even better.
For anyone getting stuck, do this step after running revolutionary - Just download the Bravo Downgrader from here http://alpharev.nl/ and run it before continuing with the rest of the steps.
i always use PB99IMG awsell, my laptop dont like my phone haha
Sent from my HTC Desire
yeh its always the usb's that let me down - 7 workstations n all of them are failing on the usb's overuse i think
desire with broken volume keys
hi friends, I found a HTC Desire bravo at the flee market and bought it thinking it is actually a nexus-one... a nice phone with lots of nice futures in it after a charging session the phone boot up and it was alive back again. with one problem the volume keys was not working.. ı dismantled it and cleaned up as it is described in xda forums and didn't worked so i made a little check and found the thin foil attaching the volume keys to the main board was broken since there is no way to fix it without changing the main board and i had no intention to pay lots of money on it i left it like that with one problem; no way to boot in to recovery from start... after couple of days i found i didn't liked the rom on it i decided to change it, there was no problem since i could boot it to recovery using the restart menu which the ROM had since it was rooted but i made a mistake and fell in to a boot lope the only way to boot it back was the adb commands but phone couldn't start up so no debugging mode only fast boot so i tried many fast boot commands to boot in to recovery with no success after searching forums i found lots of desire bravos around with the same problem.. so i used ruu to reboot it properly the only ruu worked for me was the official 2.3.3 update ruu ''RUU_HTC Desire Android 2.3 Upgrade (Gingerbread).exe'' the phone booted and working now but no s off and no root and there was no way to root it without the volume up and down keys i was stuck with the useless unrooted rom so here how i rooted the phone without the volume keys first you have to download ''DooMLoRD_v3_ROOT-zergRush-busybox-su.zip'' and run it in USB debugging mode after that you have a working recovery partition to install a recovery bin using fastboot or what ever( the problem was after the update i lost the phones recovery partition and couldn't get the state s-off even i am s-off there was no recovery partition... since i am not good at commands to re format the boot loader this could be a life saver so i decided to share my experience... afterwards you can boot into recovery since you have a recovery partition you can push any recovery to your phone i think zergrush tool is not intended to use with bravo that why no body mentioned it in the bravo forums ops i forgot the say i used alphadevs methods and software to gain s-off on my phone before using zergrush i hope this will hwlp people like me stucked with non fonctioning volume keys