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2.4 Update?

I've been watching the Google IO and they said that we have updates for 18 months provided hardware allows. Does this mean we will get 2.4, 2.5, and so on?
If so, I LOVE YOU GOOGLE!

Ice Cream Sandvich is coming to our phone. I wouldn't doubt it, with such a huge userbase and the dev community that we will have it.
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Thought this applied mainly to new devices although with the dev support this phone has I'm sure we'll see ice cream sandwich even if it isn't "official".
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Obviously, I mean without developing ourselves, as in an official update.
Thanks!

I don't think HTC will roll out 2.4 officially for this phone as it has been declared end of life so gingerbread will likely be the last official release for the phone. But CM8 maybe?

Its here!
i was actually looking around YESTERDAY and found this release... i havent tried it but it sounds like Icecream!... i would post the link but i dont have enough posts to give it... PM me if you want it

werdna87 said:
i was actually looking around YESTERDAY and found this release... i havent tried it but it sounds like Icecream!... i would post the link but i dont have enough posts to give it... PM me if you want it
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put spaces between the http like h t t p : / / w w w . whatever. c o m

PGleo86 said:
put spaces between the http like h t t p : / / w w w . whatever. c o m
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When you're done deleting all the spaces from that link, I have a bridge to sell you.

i dont quite get what you are saying but here it is h t t p ://forum.osmasterminds.com/showthread.php?73-ROM-Android-2.4-Leaked-v4.
sorry it took me so long to reply i kinda forgot...

werdna87 said:
i dont quite get what you are saying but here it is h t t p ://forum.osmasterminds.com/showthread.php?73-ROM-Android-2.4-Leaked-v4.
sorry it took me so long to reply i kinda forgot...
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That is 2.4 gingerbread not 2.4 (or whatever its going to be called) ice cream

really? sorry thats kinda confusing... you sure cause 2.4 should be android 2.4... never mind then its still a newer version though

werdna87 said:
really? sorry thats kinda confusing... you sure cause 2.4 should be android 2.4... never mind then its still a newer version though
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Yea it is and it's significantly faster than gingerbread 2.3.x because 2.4 is basically gingerbread for dual core phones

how exactly are they going to change ice cream then? Isnt speed all they changed in gingerbread also?

From what I understand ice cream sandwich is just faster and yea lol o and its not 2.4 that's still gingerbread
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werdna87 said:
how exactly are they going to change ice cream then? Isnt speed all they changed in gingerbread also?
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Android 2.4 Gingerbread is faster than 2.3.x gingerbread and Ice Cream will be HONEYCOMB + GINGERBREAD

ok so yah i get its not Ice Cream but why doesnt anybody make roms off of it if its faster?

werdna87 said:
ok so yah i get its not Ice Cream but why doesnt anybody make roms off of it if its faster?
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Because Its a google internal build it's not complete so it has bugs but it's good enough to run as a daily driver.

oh... haha thanks for clarifying

JoelZ9614 said:
Android 2.4 Gingerbread is faster than 2.3.x gingerbread and Ice Cream will be HONEYCOMB + GINGERBREAD
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Yea one android for both tablets and phones lol my friend doesn't believe me when I tell him bout that
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pianoplayer said:
I've been watching the Google IO and they said that we have updates for 18 months provided hardware allows. Does this mean we will get 2.4, 2.5, and so on?
If so, I LOVE YOU GOOGLE!
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No, that's not how it works. The "agreements" (which aren't even baked fully) only apply to phones moving forward. The manufacturers did not include previously released phones in this deal. Now, HTC can update old devices to Ice Cream Sandwich if they wish, but the deal doesn't obligate them to.
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~DEV~{WIP}[DUMP](ROM)Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich Dump/PORT (ROM)[DUMP]{WIP}~DEV~

DEV ONLY
Blah
I swear nobody flash this
ICS System Dump
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/Android4.0-System-Dump.zip
ICS Data Folder
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/User-data-Android-ICS.zip

so this system dump...i'll take as a good sign.

JoelZ9614 said:
DEV ONLY
Blah
I swear nobody flash this
ICS System Dump
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/Android4.0-System-Dump.zip
ICS Data Folder
http://evervolv.turnertechrepair.info/Clark44/User-data-Android-ICS.zip
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If you get this working. You will be my hero.
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knipp21 said:
If you get this working. You will be my hero.
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I second this.
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deathtiger said:
I second this.
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+1
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I can hear it already! "this broke my phone" LOL
Lets just hope what ever devs pick this up can handle the cry babys.
Thanks for this!!!

I feel like a little schoolgirl right now. I'm like, "its gonna happen!!!!"
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I wish I knew how to fix this up for our phone. Would probably be working on it day and night.

Yaaaay
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So what about pulling a few of the apks and giving them a go? Possible?

PacerguyDon said:
So what about pulling a few of the apks and giving them a go? Possible?
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They aren't working yet for me.
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most of the cool stuff in ICS is already in some version of sense already. What I'm really interested in is seeing what HTC does with ICS.

I can imagine its gonna look sick. They did a good job putting it on honeycomb. That looked real nice, but on ICS, it could only look amazing. Then again, I LOVE HTC sense. It's gorgeous
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This is dumped from the SDK, so don't ever expect anything truly usable to come out of it.

^ I was going to ask how this would be different from the source, but that makes sense if it's from the SDK. That's just used to make apps and such correct?

Well, couldn't you take the code used to write the apps and use that to figure out the code for ICS??
Just curious since I know nothing about this stuff.
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loudaccord said:
most of the cool stuff in ICS is already in some version of sense already. What I'm really interested in is seeing what HTC does with ICS.
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ICS is supoose to be a stock android experience. Google has said that ICS is to end fragmentation across the various handsets. Differing UI such as touchwiz, blur and Sense do nothing but slow down updates to people's phones. I'd be shocked if Google allows its partners to slap a new UI on top of ICS.

FWIW, I successfully installed the two VZW apks over mine (I'm on CM7 #105) and have rebooted since. Everything seems to be working fine for me still. My phone network still recognizes my location just fine.

loki154 said:
ICS is supoose to be a stock android experience. Google has said that ICS is to end fragmentation across the various handsets. Differing UI such as touchwiz, blur and Sense do nothing but slow down updates to people's phones. I'd be shocked if Google allows its partners to slap a new UI on top of ICS.
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Nexus phones are designed to run stock Android, but I've read nothing specific about ICS itself being mandated to be stock and only stock. The only specifics Google has offered as to the fragmentation issue is an agreement with manufacturers/carriers to support new devices with updates for the first 18 months which, honestly, doesn't accomplish all that much. Given Android's update history, that'll generally only guarantee one OS version upgrade, two at the most if the phone is released at the right time to span two OS releases.
As for disallowing custom UI's, again, I've read nothing suggesting Google plans to restrict this. As it's one of the primary ways each manufacturer differentiates their product, I'd be shocked if Google can, or has any interest in, doing anything about it beside the aforementioned pledge of 18 months of support.

tylerlawhon said:
Well, couldn't you take the code used to write the apps and use that to figure out the code for ICS??
Just curious since I know nothing about this stuff.
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No...you could not. Reverse engineering wouldnt apply to SDK...because its only a system dump.
Then again ive seen stranger things. So who knows.
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Voice to text!

right now I am on Caulikins 3.0 my question is is it possible to have the voice to text feature from ice cream sandwich on a gingerbread rom? you know where it doesn't stop and you can keep talking and it will keep printing text? or is that just a feature built into ice cream sandwich?
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davidstjohn1 said:
right now I am on Caulikins 3.0 my question is is it possible to have the voice to text feature from ice cream sandwich on a gingerbread rom? you know where it doesn't stop and you can keep talking and it will keep printing text? or is that just a feature built into ice cream sandwich?
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Use a personal assistant app like VLINGO or EVA.

I was actually talking about the speech to text on the ICS roms its so cool, you talk till your finished then click done. I was wondering if thats something we could port over to a gingerbread rom?

Why is everyone still so obsessed with gingerbread? Just use an ics rom if it has what you want.

someguyatx said:
Why is everyone still so obsessed with gingerbread? Just use an ics rom if it has what you want.
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Because its more stable... And is that really necessarily helping. I took a dump today that functioned better than ICS.

abusedcloth said:
Because its more stable... And is that really necessarily helping. I took a dump today that functioned better than ICS.
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I see everybody bashing on ICS in terms of stability and throughout my testing of at least 26 of the 32 leaked versions that I have tested out; it has been as stable (save for a few bugs) as EL29.

Gh0stw0lf said:
I see everybody bashing on ICS in terms of stability and throughout my testing of at least 26 of the 32 leaked versions that I have tested out; it has been as stable (save for a few bugs) as EL29.
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+99999 They are quite stable. Yes there are a few bugs, but i haven't seen anything "broken" in a long time. I've been on ICS since fb21 leak and don't think I could go back to GB.
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killaphatboy said:
+99999 They are quite stable. Yes there are a few bugs, but i haven't seen anything "broken" in a long time. I've been on ICS since fb21 leak and don't think I could go back to GB.
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Umm, aren't you guys gettings a little off topic. I do not think it really matters if someone prefers to stay with a ROM that is deemed stable AND safe. Didn't mean to pick on you Killa, just grabbed the last post.
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davidstjohn1 said:
I was actually talking about the speech to text on the ICS roms its so cool, you talk till your finished then click done. I was wondering if thats something we could port over to a gingerbread rom?
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Hey David, I use both of Calk's roms. How do you use the VTT in ICS do you remember? I don't know if that will port over but I'd like to check it out to see if it's possible maybe.

if I remember correctly I c s just uses voice search a different way, gingerbread give you a time allotment that you have to speak in. I c s does a different way and basically gives you all the time you want. and just to clear a few things up I love ice cream sandwich. but I want to be as safe as possible and not brick my phone. so I am just waiting for the ota to come out. so I am not bashing ice cream sandwich at all. I actually have ice cream sandwich on my daughters in my wife's phone.
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davidstjohn1 said:
if I remember correctly I c s just uses voice search a different way, gingerbread give you a time allotment that you have to speak in. I c s does a different way and basically gives you all the time you want.
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I cannot get mine to work that way on Calk's 1.5 ICS rom. But about the only thing I use voice to text for is while I'm using the swype keyboard, navigation or a basic web search. It doesn't stay open there, should it?

tdunham said:
I cannot get mine to work that way on Calk's 1.5 ICS rom. But about the only thing I use voice to text for is while I'm using the swype keyboard, navigation or a basic web search. It doesn't stay open there, should it?
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Ah found it! It appears to somehow be integrated into the stock samsung keyboard only. It does not work in Swype or the HTC_IME mod input methods.
Edit: And unfortunately, I don't think the ICS stock keyboard will work on Gingerbread.

[PSA]: AOKP going Jelly after M6

Hear me folks: AOKP is going to Jellybean after Milestone 6. Support is stopped for Dinc1, Desire, Evo 4G and Kindle Fire. [Read here or here] However, DON'T expect it to come overnight for several reasons:
After Milestone 6, the team take a short break in preparation for Jelly Bean. We’ll be taking a different approach to JB; starting fresh. With a clean start, we’ll be able to set things up properly from the get-go. We’re a much more experienced unit now, and we believe merging all of the JB changes is just asking for trouble.
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So, they gonna take a break AND start from scratch. So, unlike what some are saying, they won't simply merge the changes to ICS... It will probably make for a more stable ROM but will undoubtedly take a longer time. However, now that these chaps are experienced with a lot of the subtleties of the whole deving process, I suppose we can be optimistic that it will take lesser time than bringing ICS up to scratch...
On the other hand, the CyanogenMOD team said they will start work on CM10 (Jellybean) as soon as they get the source. However, we don't have official CM9 and so we probably won't have official CM10.. But we may get it from our devs...

litetaker said:
Hear me folks: AOKP is going to Jellybean after Milestone 6. Support is stopped for Dinc1, Desire, Evo 4G and Kindle Fire. [Read here or here] However, DON'T expect it to come overnight for several reasons:
So, they gonna take a break AND start from scratch. So, unlike what some are saying, they won't simply merge the changes to ICS... It will probably make for a more stable ROM but will undoubtedly take a longer time. However, now that these chaps are experienced with a lot of the subtleties of the whole deving process, I suppose we can be optimistic that it will take lesser time than bringing ICS up to scratch...
On the other hand, the CyanogenMOD team said they will start work on CM10 (Jellybean) as soon as they get the source. However, we don't have official CM9 and so we probably won't have official CM10.. But we may get it from our devs...
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CM10?.... Oh you mean CMX
dis is gonna catch on......
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joefrog1996 said:
CM10?.... Oh you mean CMX
dis is gonna catch on......
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Well I is the 9th letter of the alphabet and J is the 10th and so on, so I guess that's why the CM team is calling it CM10 and not CMX. I mean it makes sense to for them to be consistent, I'm just wondering what will happen when Android goes past Z...
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but X is the roman numeral for 10

Linch89 said:
but X is the roman numeral for 10
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...... CM10 could also be called CMX. X=10 is there an issue
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joefrog1996 said:
...... CM10 could also be called CMX. X=10 is there an issue
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That's exactly what he was saying...
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AJGO23 said:
Well I is the 9th letter of the alphabet and J is the 10th and so on, so I guess that's why the CM team is calling it CM10 and not CMX. I mean it makes sense to for them to be consistent, I'm just wondering what will happen when Android goes past Z...
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This is what I was referring to talking about J's and 9's and such

But then Apple will sue CyanogenMOD!!! Oh noes, people will be confused between Mac OS X and CM X! They have the same number of letters (3)... Litigious Apple in action!
Apart from this naming convention dilemma, is there anything else that may pique your interest? waiting for the good stuff from Jellybean!

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This is what I was referring to talking about J's and 9's and such
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Cant believe I never noticed that they were following the alphabet, does that mean that next year we get krispy kreme
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dreamkiller80 said:
Cant believe I never noticed that they were following the alphabet, does that mean that next year we get krispy kreme
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No, only generic, non-copyrighted names allowed. (You lose a point). Rumor mills are cranking up the possibility of Key Lime Pie being the next Android version... Android KLP is what we need to get used to by Jan 2013... Now, lets forget ICS (which is technically outdated already) and focus on JB (similar to GB...)

Samsung Source + Jelly Bean Source = E4GT 4.1 Roms?

Sorry if this is a retarded question, but since Samsung dropped the 4.0 source for our phone, and JB 4.1 source code was released, does this mean that people can start compiling fully functional Jelly Bean roms for the epic 4g touch?
If so, is anyone working on one?

You've got it wrong. The samsung source that was released is ICS kernel source. That doesn't really mean much for jelly bean.
There is work being done to try to port it nonetheless.

revamper said:
You've got it wrong. The samsung source that was released is ICS kernel source. That doesn't really mean much for jelly bean.
There is work being done to try to port it nonetheless.
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I thought that you can run roms on older kernels...for example, CM9 is currently running on a GB kernel. Since 4.0 and 4.1 don't have as big of a coding jump, couldn't you run 4.1 on a 4.0 kernel?

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I thought that you can run roms on older kernels...for example, CM9 is currently running on a GB kernel. Since 4.0 and 4.1 don't have as big of a coding jump, couldn't you run 4.1 on a 4.0 kernel?
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Um, CM9 is running on an ICS kernel. FF18 to be exact.

sai5o4 said:
Um, CM9 is running on an ICS kernel. FF18 to be exact.
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Oh...I thought the first few CM9's for our E4GT were running on a GB kernel, which is why people kept having soft brick issues. I guess i'm just uninformed. Sorry.

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Oh...I thought the first few CM9's for our E4GT were running on a GB kernel, which is why people kept having soft brick issues. I guess i'm just uninformed. Sorry.
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lol cm9 is ics.. your thinking of an older cm version.. cm10 is jelly bean
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the first couple of ICS ALPHA builds i think was running a hacked together GB kernel, then when the first leaks of ICS drop for our phones thats when the devs started using the pre build kernels that came in the leak ROMs. ICS and JB still uses a 3.0 kernel so from the source that was release devs can make JB ROMs for our phone from it, thats what CM devs have been doing to get preview builds of JB/CM10 on some phones. anyone can correct me if am wrong because am still learning about these stuff lol....but i think thats it.

well team hacksung just released a preview of JB for the international gs2. So that means that they are making progress on it and it must'nt be all that much of a change from cm9 to cm10. as JB has been out for what, almost a month now. and some people are getting cm10 previews, alphas and betas. so it must not be that big of a change in kernels. Of course i could be completely wrong in all of this, just IMO. well probably have cm10 sooner than we all think. our devs are awesome.

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well team hacksung just released a preview of JB for the international gs2. So that means that they are making progress on it and it must'nt be all that much of a change from cm9 to cm10. as JB has been out for what, almost a month now. and some people are getting cm10 previews, alphas and betas. so it must not be that big of a change in kernels. Of course i could be completely wrong in all of this, just IMO. well probably have cm10 sooner than we all think. our devs are awesome.
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I hope your right. It seems like ICS are devs main priority right now.
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Once our device becomes officially supported by CM we will be on the natural progression towards Jelly Bean.
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alexthearmo said:
Sorry if this is a retarded question, but since Samsung dropped the 4.0 source for our phone, and JB 4.1 source code was released, does this mean that people can start compiling fully functional Jelly Bean roms for the epic 4g touch?
If so, is anyone working on one?
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After all this time....CM7 and CM9.....we still aren't "officially supported"???? What is stopping us?
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Edit: I just looked up differences.... the only differences are .22 inches larger and 4 capacitive keys. I'm not understanding why it seems so difficult... please someone enlighten me.

Qwallace70129 said:
After all this time....CM7 and CM9.....we still aren't "officially supported"???? What is stopping us?
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Source built kernel, which is what they are working on stabilizing.

Qwallace70129 said:
After all this time....CM7 and CM9.....we still aren't "officially supported"???? What is stopping us?
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Edit: I just looked up differences.... the only differences are .22 inches larger and 4 capacitive keys. I'm not understanding why it seems so difficult... please someone enlighten me.
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+1 Well there is a difference of radios but I also dont understand how minor differences can make it so difficult to port from. You would think with the exception of radios & different key mapping that the architecture of both phones are exact, but then again I'm not a dev so there's probably some factor in there I'm missing.
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Chew DZ said:
+1 Well there is a difference of radios but I also dont understand how minor differences can make it so difficult to port from. You would think with the exception of radios & different key mapping that the architecture of both phones are exact, but then again I'm not a dev so there's probably some factor in there I'm missing.
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The screen size is a minor difference. But, cdma and GSM radio is the big issue when it comes to porting anything from the international to us. At least that's the impression I get from the many threads I read.

Chew DZ said:
I hope your right. It seems like ICS are devs main priority right now.
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Ive been wrong before. i was wrong 3 times before lunch. im just speculating. whenever we get it is good for me. its ready when its ready.

Lets not forget half of our AOSP Developers do not even have this phone or acquired/reacquired the phone after the fact and do not have service on the device. Darchstar is no longer with Sprint and bought another E4GT with donations. Chris41G does not have the phone at all apparently.