So I have bounced from Sense roms to trying the ocassional CM7 or AOSP rom for about 2 years now...
I REALLY want to go to either CM7, Xplod, or similar AOSP roms but cant figure out if there is a way around or a fix for a couple things that just really drive me crazy on the AOSP vs Sense roms...
Is there any way to import the sense version of... or any aftermarket alternative to:
#1- the dialer. Ive tried Dial One, and another (forget the name).. nothing comes close to the Sense dialer in my opinion. I HATE that the AOSP doest do the T9 thing that would let you quickly find a contact by hitting the number pad.
#2- the gallery. I really dont like the 3d gallery that ive gotten on the recent roms. The simplicity of the gallery that came on the older Sense (and the synergy roms) is A+ IMO.
#3- the voice recorder. Not sure whats up with this, maybe just a bug on the Xplod rom I was using, but it would let me record but not listen to previous recordings. Had to go through "movies" to listen after I found the saved recording in the SD card with root explorer. lol.
#4- The Camera... tried to use titanium backup to install sense (htc camera) on AOSP.. no dice. FC city
Although this is only 3 little apps.. its some of the things I use most and really hate the AOSP versions. ... really love the sense versions.
My current DD is Synergy with Myn's theme. I love... LOVE... the look of the rom but its a little slow, doesnt notufy with the LED, has very limited kernels, and bettery life is sub par IMO.
Im almost ready to go back to the Evio 2 1.8. That and Myn 2.2 are the top2 ive ever had on the evo. If I could get the good parts of sense on the AOSP id be all set!
Thanks for anyone who can offer any help!
~dan
not sure on the 1st 3 but have you tried MIUI's camera? I know, its not sense but it seems to be the best IMO
thanks for the reply. I tried Miui, my biggest problem with that, is that it doesnt refocus with screen taps.
Im constantly chasing my kids arond trying to grab that "quick shot". The htc camera is awesome for this.
Hts video recorder also has a really good option to refocus WHILE recording, somthing I cant seem to find anywhere else with AOSP options.
I DO like the miuioption to touch anywhere on the screen for shutter though.
So for "#1", ive downloaded about 5 different dialer apps.. Go, Mydialer, Angel, Touchpal, and Ray...
One of those will hopefully hold me over. If there's any way to get the HTC dialer to AOSP that Ive missed, someone please correct me!
Anyone know if the 3.5 Sense Gallery will work on AOSP?
Go Contacts has a dialer like that, and it's has some decent themes. I like QuickPic for my gallery.
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I like the MIUI camera but don't like that I can't access the front camera
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I use Fishbowl for my gallery as the Cooliris gallery that comes with CM7 is garbage.
Just FYI, the Amazon free app of the day is Contapps, which has a very sense-like feel.
Quickpic is my favorite, loads everything super fast.
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http://android.appstorm.net/reviews...-cyanogenmod-7-and-5-tricks-to-stick-with-it/
Check this link out, it helped me.
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hey guys.
i moved on to cm6 final last friday and i'm enjoying the rom.
however, there are a couple of things that are bothering me.
1) the images are way oversaturated. both in the contacts and in the gallery. the color needs to be toned down...is there a way to do that?
2) the thumbnails are HORRIBLE. i like my nice screen and when i call people have their picture show up nicely. in sense the picture would be clear and much bigger. here the picture is tiny and looks like the image was scaled down incorrectly - very jagged and ugly........is there a way to fix this?
3) is there a more sense-like dialer? i dont like the look of this one, yet i prefer it over Dialer One...i really liked the htc dialer
4) im not adjusting well to the vanilla lockscreen. is there an alternative lockscreen? i'm specially interested in a froyo-like clear lockscreen if possible.
any CM6 mods, apps or tricks i should know since i'm coming on to the game so late?
thanks!
Have you tried any sense roms with an AOSP look?
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Really can't bring "sense" into CM6 ... however you can bring some aosp touches to "sense". There are several roms that might be what you're looking for, or you can add some of the apk's yourself for a more custom look.
1) Get the nightly. Has an improved camera.
2) Dunno about this, but opening a ticket in the issue tracker might get some answers.
3) Dialer One is the only thing I've found, which has worked quite well for me.
4) "Froyo-like"? You mean, Sense Froyo? Because this is 100% AOSP right here; it is the Froyo lockscreen... Sooo, dunno what you're looking for here. :/
For tricks, try out the Snap 7.6BFS kernel and play with SetCPU a bit. Might notice your battery life go significantly up.
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Really can't bring "sense" into CM6 ... however you can bring some aosp touches to "sense". There are several roms that might be what you're looking for, or you can add some of the apk's yourself for a more custom look.
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i wanted to try the full aosp experience. and i like it. i just wish a couple of things could be changed. i dont understand why non-sense apps have to look so non-sense, if you get what i mean.
JuggZaPoppiN said:
Have you tried any sense roms with an AOSP look?
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didnt get to. i have bugless beast on the phone when i bought it (used), then moved on to ava v7 i think, then omj v3.1 for a long time, then quickly ava v9 and that convinced me to take the plunge to cm6...and the way its running and the way i have it looking i think it fits me well.
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1) Get the nightly. Has an improved camera.
2) Dunno about this, but opening a ticket in the issue tracker might get some answers.
3) Dialer One is the only thing I've found, which has worked quite well for me.
4) "Froyo-like"? You mean, Sense Froyo? Because this is 100% AOSP right here; it is the Froyo lockscreen... Sooo, dunno what you're looking for here. :/
For tricks, try out the Snap 7.6BFS kernel and play with SetCPU a bit. Might notice your battery life go significantly up.
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1) sorry i wasnt clear enough. i dont mean pictures taken with the camera...i mean images in general that i have on my sd from before. they didnt look as saturated before moving on to cm6...
4) yes i mean sense...oops.
and i already have the snap kernel and set cpu and i do agree my battery life is making me happy
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i wanted to try the full aosp experience. and i like it. i just wish a couple of things could be changed. i dont understand why non-sense apps have to look so non-sense, if you get what i mean.
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I totally understand ... but aosp isn't for everyone. For me, it has a clean, basic, no frills look ... which I like. I actually prefer the aosp dialer, and especially the aosp browser. It's just that there are some non-negotiables, and one of them is the dialer. Sounds like you prefer the "Sense" look, so do a nand backup of CM6 and give a couple of the hybrids a try. TJohnson makes a particularly good one, along with Virus "Airbourne", and VaelPak. Whenever I need a "Sense" based rom, I use MikFroyo, which I have customized with aosp browser, music, launcher pro and a few other apps. Amikam is a very creative guy graphically.
edit: almost forgot, Frost rom by Barnacles ... also, quite good.
As a developer myself, just no in the tech field, I find it helpful to know what other want so that I can produce the best. I'm sure that most of you do this because it's something that YOU personally want and or like. I deeply appreciate the work that has gone into such wonderful ROM's and I can't wait to see more.
As for me, I've tried out RR, CM, SR, Frank, Jager, ASOP, and a few other odds and ends.
It seems to me there should be a blend. A blend between Sense and well....nonsense.
Currently, I'm on the Ultimate ASOP. This ROM has been amazing because of the ability to customize. Like every ROM, there are quirks or just small things that bother me, but it's SOOOO close to greatness, IMHO. I like a lot about a lot of ROMS but if they're lacking Sense then I miss that. If they have Sense, I miss the customizing of the Non Sense. My question is, can the two be made to be CommonSense?
What I'm talking about is a ROM that combines a little bit of the HTC Sense side with the applications and setting and customization of the Non HTC Sense ROMs. For instance, the email application in the Driod root IMHO opinion is much better then the Sense one. You can easily check multiple emails and the default background is back. What if you could have Sense, but change the lock screen to something different and be able to add different themes easily? There are several instances where the two could be combined to make CommonSense. And, if you have some ideas please share!
I guess i'm just looking for ideas from others that I can take a pitch to a Chef along with a few $$$ to make a ROM that'll do just that. Is there anyone else that thinks the same or I am the only one riding the HellaNoSense boat?
check out IncDoes AOSP. but you should have posted in q/a or general for future reference
This incredible forums is in desperate need for vanailla Roms AND ASOP kernels
DESPERATE NEED
VANILLA ROMS ARE THE BEST performing and give the most memory
we have great phones and we havent taken full advantage imo from what i have seen so far
i prefer a sense based rom with virtually every sense component gutted aside from dialer and contacts (and other key vital stuff). most users use launcher pro, yet most devs seem to focus their [sense] work around modified rosie. Which doesnt seem to make a ton of sense to me. im sure the launcher pro dev would allow the use of his work cooked into roms with his permission right?
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i prefer a sense based rom with virtually every sense component gutted aside from dialer and contacts (and other key vital stuff). most users use launcher pro, yet most devs seem to focus their [sense] work around modified rosie. Which doesnt seem to make a ton of sense to me. im sure the launcher pro dev would allow the use of his work cooked into roms with his permission right?
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actually no. LP isnt open source. thats also whay CM uses ADW rather than LP
How about a JD froyo MASH-UP! That wud b hot! You know, cause a phone that won't boot gets the best battery life
Edit: I LOVED SR vanilla, but it's a little long in the tooth... at least for now. I still have issues with AOSP stability. But I haven't flashed anything new in a month so maybe I'm full of it.
DS36 said:
This incredible forums is in desperate need for vanailla Roms AND ASOP kernels
DESPERATE NEED
VANILLA ROMS ARE THE BEST performing and give the most memory
we have great phones and we havent taken full advantage imo from what i have seen so far
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Yeap. This.
Minimalism.
Bare bones, minimal special effects, no clutter.
Basically a tiling WM or Openbox layout with basic text menus or no menus with touch commands.
Hopefully I'll be able to get into cooking whenever I get my machine in order. I've been wanting to actually contribute to some coding/hacking projects but I've never found anything of interest that would motivate me... until now :3
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... For instance, the email application in the Driod root IMHO opinion is much better then the Sense one. You can easily check multiple emails and the default background is back......
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FYI: the new Sense lets you multi select in the mail widget...Desire HD/Z
I love sense but need a landscape homescreen! I wish rosie could do this because adw and LP drive me nuts! Currently ruining SR. 3.3.3 but will make the switch when I find something that suits my needs...the reason...I frequently use a car dock and I'm on the road for at least2 hours a day
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All I would like is someone to modify the bluetooth stack to support bluetooth keyboards (I have an old iGo keyboard).
I'm still hoping for a webOS port even though that's probably not gonna happen ever
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I'm still hoping for a webOS port even though that's probably not gonna happen ever
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Want. I just wish android took more looks from webOS. It is so beautiful!
The look & feel of the new Sense UI (The Desire Z ROM specifically), the fastest and most optimized speed possible, working camera w/ 720p video (only thing wrong with Desire Z ROM, imo), lots of free memory, clear of all the bloatware apps, aaaaaaaaaaaaand.... Ability to quickly change theme settings (transparency, selection colors, etc).
Oh, and great dev support.
ToyTank said:
How about a JD froyo MASH-UP! That wud b hot! You know, cause a phone that won't boot gets the best battery life
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Bahahaha!!
DS36 said:
This incredible forums is in desperate need for vanailla Roms AND ASOP kernels
DESPERATE NEED
VANILLA ROMS ARE THE BEST performing and give the most memory
we have great phones and we havent taken full advantage imo from what i have seen so far
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http://www.droidforums.net/forum/lithiummod/89559-lithium-mod-returns-more-devices.html
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My perfect rom would be:
Sense based Vanilla rom
htc keyboard
htc camera
htc gallery
htc contacts
either HTC facebook or contacts syncable with market facebook.
emmc working properly
adw built in
customizations avalable in cyanogen's latest rom
power widget built in to notification pull down.
figure out how to change the answer/silence to tabs
reboot option in power menu
6 signal bars
htc battery icon with %
keep the colored sense settings menu icons.
tab or rotary music controls (hidden when not in use)
thats all i can think of.
Having tried just about every ROM out there (and a couple of them a number of times) I think the problem I run into is there are little things here and there that I like about each.
All of our tastes are different, thus we like different things. Some people like the circle battery mod, some people like the rotary lock screen, etc etc...
What would be really cool is if there were a way to easily choose the specific mods you wanted... kinda like picking out options on a new car.
Ultimately, I think the answer is a dev that is willing to build you a custom ROM to your exact specifications. Of course, this would come with a price tag, but hey, it's exactly what you wanted (and it would be worth it IMO... any takers LOL).
In the meantime, I'm trying to figure out how to get what it is that I want and experiment. It's been fun, frustrating at times, and I still don't have everything I like, but at least we have lots of options to choose from, and I'm learning something new in the process
Is it not possible to build a Rom with a bunch of on off switches that allow you to select sense or no sense , or give you the option for circle battery vs stock ....
IMO.... this would be the ULTIMATE Rom .....
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@ The OP: Maybe you should initiate a poll.
Alright.. so we all probably use virtuous rom, gingervillian,cyanogen or miui.
I wanna know why everyone chooses each one.. I've flashed all and am just curious to why everyone else chooses the roms they do.. what really makes you stay with the rom you have??
I run miui. To me cyanogen lacks full customization. And has no benefitial features over miui. I get same battery life and phone runs smoothly at 1ghz as it would on any other rom. ONLY issue is random reboots. Which is a theme issue not a rom issue.. And I don't care for sense roms.. to me they slow the phone down.. although I am waiting for cm7 to become stable before my first flash.
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Currently I am running MIUI. I'm still getting used to it but overall I like it. I love the UI. It looks clean and it's quick.
Stock post ota deodexed.... because every other rom gives me some sort of problem that there is no guide to fixing and I don't have the time to troubleshoot the bull****
Whats deodexed mean??
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The 1.2Ghz clock speed from the God speed thread.
Anything higher than that affects my battery and I don't see any obvious benefit as I don't play any games that need a higher CPU.
virtuous because of eye candy and htc streams are awesome!!
which rom saves battery most?
I use CM6.1.1
I previously tried Virtuous because I always wanted a Sense phone but realized Sense actually sucks, well the messaging, gallery and dialer at least.
I use my phone heavily for A2DP bluetooth streaming and apperantly cyanogenmod is pretty much the best rom for bluetooth audio quality, also the added equalizer feature is awesome. Its just like the stock rom whish I loved since my nexus days but with just the right amount of customization.
MIUI looks annoying as hell, why not just buy an iDevice if your into that UI?
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Whats deodexed mean??
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When you install an app, sometimes it comes with an odex file (i believe it's an extension of some sort to the app) When you are de-odex'd, it merges the extension (dot odex file) with the apk. The only reason I wanted this rom was to use themes for stock roms. I also found that it boots the phone up a hell of a lot faster.
Highly recommended for people who want the stock feel but like small mods here and there.
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The 1.2Ghz clock speed from the God speed thread.
Anything higher than that affects my battery and I don't see any obvious benefit as I don't play any games that need a higher CPU.
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That's not a rom...
that's a kernel........... *facepalm*
I run Virtuous for a few reasons:
1. camera - the stock Android camera app is abysmal. Few options and not easy to use in the least.
2. music player - genre support is a big one for me
3. Sense - I use LauncherPro, but I prefer the sense contacts and other features.
4. I installed the 3D gallery from stock, so I have access to both. One other small benefit of the otherwise useless Sense gallery is a scrollable 'share' pop-up. On stock ROMs (or CM), if you have too many options in this menu, you can't scroll so you can't access them. Sense lets you scroll the 'share' list.
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I use CM6.1.1
I previously tried Virtuous because I always wanted a Sense phone but realized Sense actually sucks, well the messaging, gallery and dialer at least.
I use my phone heavily for A2DP bluetooth streaming and apperantly cyanogenmod is pretty much the best rom for bluetooth audio quality, also the added equalizer feature is awesome. Its just like the stock rom whish I loved since my nexus days but with just the right amount of customization.
MIUI looks annoying as hell, why not just buy an iDevice if your into that UI?
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Not everything about miui is iphonish... and even the parts that are you have options.. the menus? I turn those to the standard grid. the icons? Not all are uniformed "squares" all thou the theme is use they are. But I actually am I fan of uniformed icons. I think it looks cleaner.. imho. What about miui looks annoying?? I admit the original launcher is lame. But I don't use it.. I think docks and notification bars are lame. I don't use either and rock adw.. swipe down for notifications and up for apps. plus you can't tell me miui lock screen isn't sexy..
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From what I have read neither the camera, dialer, or EPST can be put on an AOSP ROM. Hoping someone can tell me this isn't so.
Any reccomendations?
(I tried 360 and vignette but was not happy with the lag on them. The closest dialer I found was dialerone but looking for something with a little more polished look.)
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Not quite sure where you are going here. If you are that in love with sense apps, why are you interested in AOSP roms? The way your question reads, it sounds like you haven't yet tried AOSP. That is the beauty of this whole process. Nand, try something out, and if you don't like it or it doesn't have what you were looking for, nand back!!
I've been rockin MIUI for 3 months and not missing sense one bit. The camera is AMAZING- better than sense and the market apps. Some apps do have nice effects and what not, but none of them can touch MIUI's camera as far as moving/action shots go.
Let me know if you need any more info regarding AOSP. Again, back up your stuff and go see for yourself. As long as you nandroid, you have nothing to lose!
I've tried MIUI, CM6, CM7, and one other GB ROM in addition to many sense ROMs. It's not that I'm in love with sense apps. I use ADW. Overall I prefer CM7 first and foremost and secondly MIUI. I put on almost 40k miles a year and use my GPS and bluetooth constantly and like to take lots of pics. MIUI has a great look and feel but the GPS takes longer to find locations than other ROMs and when using my bluetooth is incredibly unresponsive so those two things killed it for me. I never really played with it's camera. If I were a dev I'd take base my ROM on CM7, add MIUI menus, customizability options, theme manager and take the camera, dialer, and EPST from Sense.
Where I was basically wishing for is a way to put the Sense dialer, camera, and EPST on CM7. I should have said that Thanks for the reply though!
Hey guys,
So I'm getting a little impatient with waiting for Gingerbread on my DHD and was thinking of going to CM7 now that its Final. Previous Custom ROMS so far havn't really done it for me. I kinda like the reliablility and battery life etc of the stock build.
Has anyone tried CM7 on the DHD who could maybe give a little account of how it worked out (battery life etc)?
Thanks
jamieboy88 said:
Hey guys,
So I'm getting a little impatient with waiting for Gingerbread on my DHD and was thinking of going to CM7 now that its Final. Previous Custom ROMS so far havn't really done it for me. I kinda like the reliablility and battery life etc of the stock build.
Has anyone tried CM7 on the DHD who could maybe give a little account of how it worked out (battery life etc)?
Thanks
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Battery life is superb on CM7 and much better than the Gingerbread Sense ROMs. I take it you have tried the latest Desire S builds? I recommend RCMix if you haven't. If you are wanting the pure Google experience though, you have nothing to fear with CM7.
Regards.
Stock rom offers a better connection between all the social networks, better stock widgets and htc sense camera app. hmmm i did have CM7 for while and i loved it but its just the camera app that did it for me, i guess im just too used to HTC sense !
I had no problems with CM7 either. Very nice rom. Camera App is nice. Audio is great. Having or not having HTC Sense is a big decision maker. Once or if you get bored of Sense, then you will really enjoy a rom like CM7 for all its other differences. If it could have the Sense Weather animations and clock, Touch Input keyboard and HTC Reader 2.0 - it could be my ideal rom at this point.
Although I'm a relative noob with trying the many Android roms.
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I had no problems with CM7 either. Very nice rom. Camera App is nice. Audio is great. Having or not having HTC Sense is a big decision maker. Once or if you get bored of Sense, then you will really enjoy a rom like CM7 for all its other differences. If it could have the Sense Weather animations and clock, Touch Input keyboard and HTC Reader 2.0 - it could be my ideal rom at this point.
Although I'm a relative noob with trying the many Android roms.
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The clock, albeit not with the flip function, can be found all over the internet. Search for Fancy Widget (Sense Clock) to find it. If you can't and desperately need it, I will pm you the apk upon request, although will have to dig it out first. Keyboard? I'm confused as to exactly what you mean, but you can use the HTC keyboard on CM7 as well as numerous other replacements. HTC Reader??!! No way! Aldiko and Laputa both make HTC's attempt look poor. Not to mention Kindle.
Personally, the slight nuances of pure Android are what I find hard to resist. The transition animations, which were present on the Donut Sense UI but inexplicably left out since 2.1, are a big one. I know you can find ROMs which include the different animations or use Launcher Pro, but they never operate 100% and stutter/glitch at random moments. Even the way the keyboard bounces onto the screen rather than just "appearing" gives a more polished feel. The clean simple UI, which lacks the clutter and plethora of menu's that Sense incorporates is a dream to navigate, and the overall speed of the OS is unrivalled. I guess for the "average user", Sense is a comfortable, intuitive blanket which makes Android accessible for the masses. In the Windows Mobile days and arguably when Cupcake/Donut were still in use, it was a necessity. Since 2.1 however, I feel it is no longer needed as the Android UI has evolved to a point where it should appeal to anyone.
Regards.
EDIT: Just seen your website Grant! Forgive the app recommendations, I see you are already well versed in alternatives.
Thanks guys!!
Im still not sure! I wasn't the interface i was worried about! I've given the customs a whirl and its been more the reliability and performance that have brought me back to the stock ROM. I've downloaded the CM7 zip! might give it a chance over the weekend before the week starts over! Ill always have my back-up for when HTC decide to give us an official release of 2.3.3.
Maybe ill never go back once i try CM7!
cheers
if your a gameloft gamer, i suggest sticking with a sense 2.2 rom. if your a audiophile, cm7.
So using it now! Love the look and feel except I find that its a big sticky when swiping between homescreens. Any suggestions?
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So using it now! Love the look and feel except I find that its a big sticky when swiping between homescreens. Any suggestions?
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Try a different launcher. Launcher Pro is one of the smoothest.
Regards.
The Regina 3D Launcher is one I've only just heard of - thanks to Pocketnow.com.
For anyone who hasn't tried CyanogenMod 7 - there are some screenshots here.
I've only tried 3 Roms so far on Android. It would be nice to have an ongoing poll based on member's records or vote or something to see which ones are the most popular.
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For anyone who hasn't tried CyanogenMod 7 - there are some screenshots here.
I've only tried 3 Roms so far on Android. It would be nice to have an ongoing poll based on member's records or vote or something to see which ones are the most popular.
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One thing I found missing is the ability to hide certain albums within the gallery. A nice feature when you've lots of crap on you SD card! Also having the GPS issue that seems pretty widespread.
Other than that, battery life = more awesome than Stock!