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[q] Overall Sound Quality

I just "upgraded" from a dinc to a dinc2 and I'm pretty disappointed. I am trying to see if I can get some help from you guys before my 14 days are up.
1) The external speaker is horrible. On my dinc I used the speaker phone for all calls and 3-5 hours of XM Radio a day. The speaker was loud, clear and oddly amazing. The dinc2 -- I can kind of make a phone call, but it's not very loud and there is a nasty 'tin can' sound to it. Playing music through this thing is just horrible compared to the dinc, it's not loud enough and sounds like gibberish.
2) In call quality through the headset speaker has the same tin can sound and I swear I can hear myself talk through the headset sometimes.
3) The size -- love it
4) Software -- love it
I actually love everything about this phone other than the audio quality. I brought it back to the Verizon store a couple hours after buying it and they told me that it just had a lower quality speaker. After reading some reviews I think he is full of it. Please help/advise!!
Thanks
neal

I an pretty disappointed with mine as well.
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The speaker does seem to be a bit lower quality. I came from an Eris, though, which had an even worse speaker, so I didn't really notice it. However, the general consensus seems to be that the speaker is not as great as other devices.
What kind of headset are you using? I use headphones plugged into the 3.5mm port and it sounds pretty great to me. Bluetooth isn't as high fidelity, but it's still not bad (I assume this is due to compression over A2DP), and definitely not tinny. I haven't tried bluetooth communications as I actually don't use my phone as a phone very often (so much for being a phone!).

I thought it was just mine with the external sound speaker problem.
VZW is sending me a new one. Should be here today.
Will test the new one, but based on this thread, I'm not optimistic that another one solves the problem.
I also requested a new one because my GPS takes 5-8 minutes to lock on.

roadratx said:
I thought it was just mine with the external sound speaker problem.
VZW is sending me a new one. Should be here today.
Will test the new one, but based on this thread, I'm not optimistic that another one solves the problem.
I also requested a new one because my GPS takes 5-8 minutes to lock on.
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Gps status fixed my gps issue..I'm waiting on root to see of that makes my gps better. It's still not super accurate
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Gps status fixed my gps issue..I'm waiting on root to see of that makes my gps better. It's still not super accurate
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What do you mean by "GPS status?"

disregard....i found the gps status app

replacement phone just as bad....sent it back

I ended up with another incredible 2, it was worse. I traded that one for a charge. I really miss senseui, but I rooted this and put stock android on it. Still getting used to it but I am really happy with the hardware.
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qazew said:
I ended up with another incredible 2, it was worse. I traded that one for a charge. I really miss senseui, but I rooted this and put stock android on it. Still getting used to it but I am really happy with the hardware.
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Surprised they let you trade it for the charge.

I had to pay the difference plus 35 restock
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Any one else have volume issues when playing videos. Can't get sound off of videos on card. Any advice?

Touchscreen ghost?

Hi guys,
I've had my G-Nex for a few days, and mostly love it - but on two occasions now, the touchscreen has acted up. I'd put the phone down, and for a few minutes, it'd randomly select things on the screen with me nowhere near ( the other day it kept opening the People app). But a minute later, it'll be fine. Touch inputs are flawless when I'm actually using the phone. It's totally random.
Anyone else with such an issue?
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I never had any problem like that. It's just a thought but do you put your phone where there might be magnetic interference nearby, like another electronic device? I'm not sure if this can happen with phones but some types of touch input can go crazy because of that.
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Miracle_Nosh said:
Hi guys,
I've had my G-Nex for a few days, and mostly love it - but on two occasions now, the touchscreen has acted up. I'd put the phone down, and for a few minutes, it'd randomly select things on the screen with me nowhere near ( the other day it kept opening the People app). But a minute later, it'll be fine. Touch inputs are flawless when I'm actually using the phone. It's totally random.
Anyone else with such an issue?
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If you are telling me next that it only happens while 2G is being used..

I had the same thought, but both times the phone was on WiFi, in my house. I've not once had the volume problem, and am also on Orange (1800mhz)...which, so far, seems unaffected by the volume ghost.
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I don't want people to think that i am a general moaner, but it did happen to me the first day i got it whilst i was viewing cached apps is the settings menu. Its like your finger is still on the screen. I haven't experienced it since though.

Something like this happened to me with the Nook Color. As far as I know, it's not a known issue for that device so I'm guessing there was some interference I was not aware of. UFO's maybe.

My Palm Pre+ is doing this constantly. I will be pretty upset if I get the Galaxy Nexus and it does the same.

[Q] Temperature

Hi Folks.
Does anyone have any idea what a safe operating temperature for the Samsung Epic Touch 4G is?
I most recently have been using the usb to hdmi converter to play shows to my TV and then running a VNC Server on the phone so I can control the Epic from my laptop to pause, play, etc. while the phone is setting by the TV.
This works great, but with the video and the server running the Epic gets up to 42 to 46 degrees C.
I have felt phones get hotter, but I don't want to damage my phone either. It cooled down to 32 degrees C pretty fast after using it as a media center.
Any opinions or technical knowledge? I ran it for a few hours, and am hoping I did not cause any permanent damage.

I know epic 1 shut down at like 110° f. might be too low, but mime got so hot on halloween after using as projection for our haunted house. Bricked the phone until I factory reset it...played movie fine, just boot lopped.
-jr

tubasteve said:
I know epic 1 shut down at like 110° f. might be too low, but mime got so hot on halloween after using as projection for our haunted house. Bricked the phone until I factory reset it...played movie fine, just boot lopped.
-jr
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I think I took the Touch to like 114F. I did not notice the phone misbehaving at all, and it cooled down fast enough. (Well not entirely true. It kinda froze up, but that happens everytime I unhook it from the TV, seems my ADW Launcher gets glitchy when using with TV, don't think related to heat.) I think the reason it really heated up was due to using as vnc server, would not even gain charge. Yesterday when I just streamed the video to the TV without vnc, it stayed charged and seemed cooler.
The phone you used for a projection, was it the Epic or the Epic Touch? And after doing the factory reset, did you notice any issues? Slower, freezing, etc.?

Just Bumping this...
Hoping to get some more incite into the Epic Touch temperature specifications.
Thanks in advance

Bump one more time. Anyone?
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pjjohn73 said:
Bump one more time. Anyone?
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I think that the phone shuts down beforehand but it would be nice to know what that number is.
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JohnCorleone said:
I think that the phone shuts down beforehand but it would be nice to know what that number is.
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Thanks for the reply John.
I would think so too. Just curious as doing the streaming etc to the TV is very convenient but not worth damaging the phone. I really think its ok to do so though, the phone has been at 40-42C with normal use. Running a bit above that has not seemed to harm it.
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I think I had a run in with a rogue app the other day. My battery was draining unusually fast and I plugged it in to charge, but it was charging very slowly and the temp got up to 120F according to the widget I'm using. I rebooted and everything has been fine since.
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Often times (I mean, very often) when I go to grab and use my phone I can tell by touch that it's hot and check the battery temp - those times it's usually 106° F and higher. I could tell you now that seeing my temp at 110° to 115° F doesn't surprise me at all. What kills me is that most of these times I'm not actively doing anything with the phone - I've just pulled it out of my pocket and think, damn, it's hot again.
A couple of weeks ago I updated the Widget Locker app to the latest version to try out the Honeycomb and Ice Cream lock screens, so after updating I played around with it for a while. My phone started getting hot - as in HOTTER than I'm used to. I checked the temp and it was screaming hot at 122°. What's worse is that it kept getting hotter and when I checked my battery monitor app it was definitely Widget Locker that was driving it up there. I powered off, let the battery cool a bit then rebooted. I plugged in the phone to regain some charge and checked it a little while later to see it was really, really hot again. Now at some point it was so hot it would NOT charge - stating this explicitly. I pulled the battery to let it cool and tried again later. This happened about 3-4 times before I said screw it and uninstalled Widget Locker all together. Hasn't done that again since.
So, if it helps you at all, temps around 110° - 115° have been fine for me. Over 120° would start to concern me and I think it stops charging and gives you a warning at 130°.
I've attached some photos of that particular instance. The last photo shows my temp distribution... I'm assuming all the time, and it surprised me at being an avg of 88°.

Thanks Beans! That was very useful information. I feel mich better now. Thats to bad about Widget Locker. I have used that app on occasion. I have not had a problem yet with it getting to hot on its own. But if it does I will assume its a troublesome app. Thanks again!
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pjjohn73 said:
Thanks Beans! That was very useful information. I feel mich better now. Thats to bad about Widget Locker. I have used that app on occasion. I have not had a problem yet with it getting to hot on its own. But if it does I will assume its a troublesome app. Thanks again!
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I used to have a problem with Widget Locker in earlier versions but the updated versions have been much more battery friendly and my phone doesn't seem to get hot from it. I am using a custom slider that someone from XDA made though but I don't think that should matter
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could this be rom related?

ive been running calks roms ever since he released them for our phones and i have never had an issue... that being said, i flashed his latest 2.0.1a and was working fine up until yesterday... it seems that my menu button presses randomly for no aparent reason! i cleaned the screen to remove any smudges it may have and that doesnt help... do you guys think its the phone!? like i said the roms have been working fine! i even flashed it again just to check and no go...

Sounds like a problem with your phone unfortunately
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also - search Calk's ROM thread for anyone else that might have the issue, a fix or replace suggestion.

Yep sounds like hardware, did it continue after a reboot? Sometimes a system reboot complete with a battery pull can fix little glitches like this.
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Pull the battery a leave it for a few minutes, then put it back in and see if your problem goes away. It does sound like a hardware thing.

check out my post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1389972
I've been getting the same thing and managed to catch my phone misbehaving on camera.
I am sure it's hardware as when the problem started for me i was on a stock room that I simply rooted. Thinking it may be something with the rom (like you) I flashed a whole new rom with a whole new kernel (blazer rom with the ek02). the problem persisted and thats the setup I was running when I shot the vid. yesterday I flashed the stock EL13 rom and kernel. same problem.
Let's compare notes and see if we can narrow down the list of causes.
1) it's not rom related.. but MAY be root related. thoughts?
2) I recently damaged my stock charging cable and started using a cable (samsung brand still) that I picked up from amazon... could that be the issue?
3) on the FIRST DAY when I bought my phone, i noticed that the screen goes haywire if I try to use it while its charging. this only happens on the stock charger. I was told by members of the board here that this was normal and dismissed it. could this actually mean that our phones were defective to begin with?
Lets here your thoughts.
btw. I'm having my device replaced on friday. if you have the equipment protection plan then it's free of charge.

As ironic as it is, i posted on this thread just to try and help and be it as it may my phone is now doing this now... its done it about 3 times and its annoying lol
Edit:I'm on blazer 2.0 with desperado and el13... but it did it on ek02 too so its not the modem
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so far I'm thinking it's something to do with bluetooth, the headphone jack or third party cables.
anyone else using headphone or a tape adapter at the time this started for them? what about simultaneously while listening to bluetooth?

btate0121 said:
so far I'm thinking it's something to do with bluetooth, the headphone jack or third party cables.
anyone else using headphone or a tape adapter at the time this started for them? what about simultaneously while listening to bluetooth?
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I don't use any of those....
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so is yours completely random or does it seem to happen only under certain conditions?

Got my new device last night. One difference ive noticed is that this one actually charges fully (battery shows 100%) even off of the charger. My previous device dropped to 99% as soon as i unplugged it.
The screen calibration still goes haywire if used while its charging.
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It seems to be completely random... although I'm sure its not...
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Although i never had the problem on the stock from and kernel
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is this rom related
I am using calks 2.5 with rogue kernel. my phone seems to have little lines moving up and down the screen. I just got this phone after turning in my other one because of hardware problems. just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this as well.

104 degrees Fahrenheit, thanks Samsung

so my phone is charging I get a phone call yep hot as he'll burning up... I look 104f yeah that's real hot couldn't even talk on the phone, phone lags as hell, the screen issues with the blur I mean come on Samsung I love you guys but you really messed up the phone, I loveeee. the camera on the phone its amazing but still not worth all this... and don't tell me a update would fix this, a Damn 670 phone this should not happen never happen on my note 2 which is faster, another feature Samsung forgot Sheat
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Calm down. I doubt Samsung is reading this.
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Yeah bro calm down

xxjrsmith3xx said:
so my phone is charging I get a phone call yep hot as he'll burning up... I look 104f yeah that's real hot couldn't even talk on the phone, phone lags as hell, the screen issues with the blur I mean come on Samsung I love you guys but you really messed up the phone, I loveeee. the camera on the phone its amazing but still not worth all this... and don't tell me a update would fix this, a Damn 670 phone this should not happen never happen on my note 2 which is faster, another feature Samsung forgot Sheat
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You realize 104 F is not hot... at all.....
1) Laptops and have had electronic components built to withstand up to 100 CELSIUS for years. I'm sure your phone can handle 40.
2) If you can't talk on the phone because a little warmth is too much for your sensitive skin move the **** to Alaska because 104 is not hot by any stretch of the imagination.
3) My phone has no lag.... at all, so I don't know what you're speaking of. I can play NFS:MW for an hour, switch to Eufloria HD for another, then hit up GTA:VC for an hour with absolutely no problems. I can also scroll through the drawer faster than my S3 could respond, so it is much more responsive. Maybe you got a defective unit or you messed it up somewhere rooting or flashing roms or poking around where you shouldn't have... I mean based just by your grammar you're not that smart of a person, so I'd say user error is MUCH more likely.
4) If by the blur you mean the purple when you're in the settings, well yes. You've got me there. That is a minor bug that needs to be addressed, and will. The phone has been out for like 11 days bro, give them a ****ing minute.
5) No, sir, your Note 2 is not faster. Yes, it has a larger screen and slightly better battery life, but faster? No. Run a CPU and GPU benchmark and try to tell me its faster.
Give them some time to work out the kinks in the programming. This is how electronics work, nothing is ever going to be perfect when its being produced by the millions on a short time frame with 6 different versions for different countries with different hardware and 10000 different carriers trying to poke around and make their own adjustments to the software.
TL;DR: Stop crying, you're embarrassing yourself.

Just use the speaker phone.....

nba1341 said:
Just use the speaker phone.....
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Good one.
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I hate when people say use benchmark look which is faster... man everyday use is what matter, when I'm playing games and my note 2 runs them smooth and my S4 runs them choppy there is an issue I'm sorry there just is. Now for 104 degrees being not too hot, wow really its beyond hot for a phone to hit, don't give me the whole laptop crap this is a phone that people use to make phone calls and the screen and the back just feels way way too hot. Just use the speakerphone what are we Apple "You're holding it wrong" come on guys give me a break a 670$ phone should not have all of this stuff going on. Then you're telling me oh download an app to fix the screen issues -.- , you guys may think this is over the top i don't think so when you buy something so expensive and it works so iffy, don't get me started on Shealth love it but keep restarting your steps all the time ... might as well call it Srestart ..... oh samsung i love you but you're killing me with this phone. I'm getting a replacement on monday I'll let you guys know how that one is hope its 100X better....

No, 104F is not too hot for a phone to hit while charging and being used. You have heat from the battery while charging and heat from the processor while using, add any case you might have put on there trapping the heat and it is still well withing acceptable parameters. In Florida ambient temperature reaches that through most of the summer.
And if this thread continues to be a flame/troll fest it will be closed.

Like everyone else had said, I dont think thats very hot. Thats around where mine is
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And if this thread continues to be a flame/troll fest it will be closed.
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Awesome lolz...
104° F is actually cool for a phone th that's charging and in a call. If the device is lagging out on you just return it if a reset doesn't fix the issue.
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I actually had this same issue on a white 16gb s4. Phone was powered off while charging over night. Upon powering it on the internal thermometer also read 104F. I suspect it was much hotter, given I have hot spots on my laptop case that reach that temp as verified by a thermal camera. This felt much hotter, though I didn't have the tools on hand to verify.
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I've heard a few people complain about their devices getting too hot, but most of them have had the white version. Is that what you guys have had? I have the black one and haven't experienced this issue at all. It does get a little warm when charging, but other than that, no issues here

Im shocked that no one has asked this. But...
Were you still virgin stock on firmware? Or were you on something you flashed?
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My phone gets to hot
Black version no root
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104f is not hot??? Hold that next to your ear and tell me it feels comfortable
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Actionx1 said:
104f is not hot??? Hold that next to your ear and tell me it feels comfortable
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Why yes, it does. Actually kinda like a nice warming pad on a winter day.

TeknoGodz said:
Why yes, it does. Actually kinda like a nice warming pad on a winter day.
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It's a good thing winter is year round.
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It's a good thing winter is year round.
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Well I'm in Florida so whenever I'm inside it's like a warming pad against the AC. When I'm outside I don't care because it's not getting any hotter than the air already is. Sound logic.
You do realize I was being sarcastic right? Regardless, that's neither here nor there. You can't make a thread and be like "Damn samsung my phone hits 104 F when I'm charging and talking on the phone!!!!111oneone"
That's not hot. Especially for a phone that's charging while doing anything, or using mobile data in any way, or playing games. When it hit's 60-70 celsius start complaining about overheating problems/return it. When your phone hits 100 degrees Celsius start worrying about the internals frying. Anything less than that stop complaining. It's a ****ing quad core computer that fits in your hand and is slimmer than a BIC lighter. Of course it's going to get warm. If you didn't realize that when you bought it you shouldn't be paying 650 bucks for anything because you're too stupid to have 650 bucks to spend.
For the last time, that's not hot at all. This thread is pointless. I'm done with it.

lolz
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