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Do you think there will ever be a dock like this for the droid X or a mod To have the Droid X work with the Atrix because the phones are a little similar i guess 0.0?

snowboarderxd1 said:
Do you think there will ever be a dock like this for the droid X or a mod To have the Droid X work with the Atrix because the phones are a little similar i guess 0.0?
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probably not but i do hope there will be
i would enjoy a multimedia dock(like the atrix one) as well

Without the dual core chip the laptop would be so slow... the x is great, but it just doesn't have the guts to provide a
Great docking experience.(short of overclocking it like crazy.)
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nah.. but
Probably not, BUT; theres still "some" hope.. i think its totally doable, and sooner or later, someone is gonna develop an app or a rom capable of.. or a combination of the two; that'll allow us to use the HDMI port as a video output...
Id be happy with that.
There was once an app, but got cancelled by the developer.

real hdmi lets you use the hdmi port as an output

mruno said:
real hdmi lets you use the hdmi port as an output
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In my experience, realhdmi is far from a perfect solution. But so far it is the best solution.
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The concept seems simple, but I have no idea how difficult the implementation would be.
Use the HDMI as video out (it looks fine when I plug my Coby Kyros into my TV, seems a phone would be the same / better). Use the USB as a mouse - I know that Android is designed for touch screen, but I thought you could use a mouse for it.
Anyway, the concept seems simple, but perhaps my concept oversimplifies the matter.
If a 3rd party vendor could make a device independent dock, and price it reasonably, I think it would sell like hotcakes. At least, the same people that would buy the Coby (like me) to root it and do what they want with it would buy a 3rd party dock and use it with their phones.
My wife, who doesn't overly love technology, loved her driod when I finally conviced her to get it. If she could get a dock for it, she would likely never use her laptop.
A device specific dock seems ... ridiculous, for an open source platform.

I upgraded my Coby Kyros last night to Gingerbread - 2.3.1 using tipster's work over at (kyros-tablet-zone.team-talk.net).
I also did some research on the different Android offerings / versions.
Starting with 3.1, whose features were imported in 2.3.4, mice and other devices can now be attached via the USB cable.
After reading the snippet from the Android dev platform highlihts This seems good and bad in the quest for a generic dock. It looks like USB support may be app specific, and also may have hardware requirements (i.e. to use a dock, your phone may need to have some requirment for it.). I've pasted the snippet from the dev platfrom notes below.
(I'm still too new to post links)
developer.android.com/sdk/android-3.1-highlights.html
Connectivity for USB accessories
Android 3.1 adds broad platform support for a variety of USB-connected peripherals and accessories. Users can attach many types of input devices (keyboards, mice, game controllers) and digital cameras. Applications can build on the platform’s USB support to extend connectivity to almost any type of USB device.
The platform also adds new support for USB accessories — external hardware devices designed to attach to Android-powered devices as USB hosts. When an accessory is attached, the framework will look for a corresponding application and offer to launch it for the user. The accessory can also present a URL to the user, for downloading an appropriate application if one is not already installed. Users can interact with the application to control powered accessories such as robotics controllers; docking stations; diagnostic and musical equipment; kiosks; card readers; and much more.
The platform’s USB capabilities rely on components in device hardware, so support for USB on specific devices may vary and is determined by device manufacturers."
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It would be cool but I dont think the x has enough umphf for it to be worth while.
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ICS USB DACs -- Is Anyone Working on This?

The audio company Fiio has been talking about creating a USB DAC that works specifically with ICS. Problem is, I've only ever read of vague support of the idea from Google and zero software suggesting this is even an option. Has anyone else tried to make this work and, if so, does it? Love to know what the gentleman who created Voodoo Control thinks about this.
If it ever did work, you might see a huge migration of audiophiles from the iPhone (which allows for limited DAC access to limited devices through the dock) to Android (which would allow access to budget USB DACs costing hundreds of dollars less).

I'd really like to know this too. The internal DAC in the SGSII sucks, and it doesn't even have any kind of unamplified line-out. If I could use an external DAC that would solve all (or at least most) of my audio issues with it.

There are some custom ROMs for some devices that are working with USB DACs. Nook color, Archos G9, Nexus 1 and maybe some other devices. There is some experimental USB DAC support in RedPill Kernell for SGS2 but I couldn't make it work with my SGS2+FIIO E10+USB powered HUB.
I have a chinese tablet, Ainol Novo 8 Adv and there are some ROMs that have the libraries needed, but there is no way to route android audio to the USB DAC. Alsa recognizes the DAC but nothing happens.
We should ask Google to implement it. Look at this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1490151

USB DAC's Working on GS3 too...

[Q] Nexus 7 2013 as FULL Desktop Replacement

Hey guys,
a friend of mine is looking for a new notebook, but very happy with his (old) Nexus 7. I thought that it might be enough if he buys a bluetooth keyboard + mouse and Chromecast. Would this work to get a Full, on the TV Screen, desktop replacement? Or would it be smarter to get a new nexus 7 and use the MHL support to connect it with some screen + connect mouse and keyboard (via usb/bluetooth).
Anyways, is this even possible to connect a screen, a mouse and a keyboard at the same time on the new nexus/old nexus.
Cheers.

owerner said:
Hey guys,
a friend of mine is looking for a new notebook, but very happy with his (old) Nexus 7. I thought that it might be enough if he buys a bluetooth keyboard + mouse and Chromecast. Would this work to get a Full, on the TV Screen, desktop replacement? Or would it be smarter to get a new nexus 7 and use the MHL support to connect it with some screen + connect mouse and keyboard (via usb/bluetooth).
Anyways, is this even possible to connect a screen, a mouse and a keyboard at the same time on the new nexus/old nexus.
Cheers.
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I believe chromcast works on wifi.
but Bluetooth will pair with only one device at a time. Keyboard or Mouse. Not both!
can use a wired keyboard with a bluetooth mouse though!

nijom said:
I believe chromcast works on wifi.
but Bluetooth will pair with only one device at a time. Keyboard or Mouse. Not both!
can use a wired keyboard with a bluetooth mouse though!
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Bit if I use a wired keyboard and a bluetooth mouse I cant use the MHL for the screen support (nexus 2013 case) cause the slot is in use, or are there any adapters who support this?
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I did a little research on "just one bluetooth device"....and its wrong. Lots of sources say that they can connect 2 bluetooth devices. Can anybody confirm this?

owerner said:
Bit if I use a wired keyboard and a bluetooth mouse I cant use the MHL for the screen support (nexus 2013 case) cause the slot is in use, or are there any adapters who support this?
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no idea bro..

owerner said:
Bit if I use a wired keyboard and a bluetooth mouse I cant use the MHL for the screen support (nexus 2013 case) cause the slot is in use, or are there any adapters who support this?
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I did a little research on "just one bluetooth device"....and its wrong. Lots of sources say that they can connect 2 bluetooth devices. Can anybody confirm this?
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I am sure it can be done. However, you can also buy bluetooth keyboard with mouse pad in built that will serve dual purpose. I have a logitech keyboard with built in mouse pad, and it works.
If you use bluetooth keyboard and mouse with chromecast or miracast technologies, you will see a lag between when you perform an action and when it gets displayed on the screen. I guess the wireless display technologies have this limitation.
You can't use MHL with new Nexus 7 2013. the technology is not supported.
What you need is a Slimport adapter to connect the new Nexus 7 2013 to the TV. I have used my bluetooth keyboard with built in mouse pad while my device was connected to Slimport. It works. My bluetooth keyboard was lagging, but i guess that's a known bluetooth issue with the new nexus 7s.
Don't buy MHL for the new Nexus 7 devices. It wont work.
Hope this helps.

psychedelicNerd said:
I am sure it can be done. However, you can also buy bluetooth keyboard with mouse pad in built that will serve dual purpose. I have a logitech keyboard with built in mouse pad, and it works.
If you use bluetooth keyboard and mouse with chromecast or miracast technologies, you will see a lag between when you perform an action and when it gets displayed on the screen. I guess the wireless display technologies have this limitation.
You can't use MHL with new Nexus 7 2013. the technology is not supported.
What you need is a Slimport adapter to connect the new Nexus 7 2013 to the TV. I have used my bluetooth keyboard with built in mouse pad while my device was connected to Slimport. It works. My bluetooth keyboard was lagging, but i guess that's a known bluetooth issue with the new nexus 7s.
Don't buy MHL for the new Nexus 7 devices. It wont work.
Hope this helps.
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Thank you mate, this sounds promising. You said the keyboard kinda laggs. Is it anyoing, or can you live with that problem?
The Slimport thingy wont work with the old nexus 7, right?
Is there a possibility to connect Slimport AND keyboard/mouse (wired) to the device?

owerner said:
Thank you mate, this sounds promising. You said the keyboard kinda laggs. Is it anyoing, or can you live with that problem?
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I primarily use the mouse so I didn't do a full regression with the keyboard. But i remember it was lagging substantially which was a bummer for me. I saw the bluetooth issue being discussed here somewhere. I will try to find that thread and see there was a fix.
owerner said:
The Slimport thingy wont work with the old nexus 7, right?
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Correct.
owerner said:
Is there a possibility to connect Slimport AND keyboard/mouse (wired) to the device?
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Not that I know of. The slimport connects directly to the N7. The only port you have available after that is for charging, that too within the slimport adapter itself. I am not aware of a slimport and keyboard/mouse wired to the device.
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psychedelicNerd said:
I primarily use the mouse so I didn't do a full regression with the keyboard. But i remember it was lagging substantially which was a bummer for me. I saw the bluetooth issue being discussed here somewhere. I will try to find that thread and see there was a fix.
Correct.
Not that I know of. The slimport connects directly to the N7. The only port you have available after that is for charging, that too within the slimport adapter itself. I am not aware of a slimport and keyboard/mouse wired to the device.
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Here is the bluetooth issue thread. Hope it helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2385891&highlight=bluetooth

owerner said:
Bit if I use a wired keyboard and a bluetooth mouse I cant use the MHL for the screen support (nexus 2013 case) cause the slot is in use, or are there any adapters who support this?
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I did a little research on "just one bluetooth device"....and its wrong. Lots of sources say that they can connect 2 bluetooth devices. Can anybody confirm this?
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I can connect a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse simultaneously on my 2013 N7.

sparksd said:
I can connect a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse simultaneously on my 2013 N7.
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Do you have any laggs? Which bluetooth devices are you using?

owerner said:
Do you have any laggs? Which bluetooth devices are you using?
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Anker and Logitech keyboards and MS Bluetooth Notebook 5000 mouse. No lags.

Hi,
I'm a newbie on xda forum and i got some questions before i decided to buy new nexus 7. I got no experiences with Android 4.0 and above versions, so i need a few informations about nexus and android. I already read a few things on multiple forums, including xda. Similar as OP, i would like to replace my laptop with nexus 7.
1. I read nexus 7 owners had problems with USB OTG and there is some application needed for this thing to work. I also read there is the difference between rooted and unrooted tablet. What do i get with rooted tablet? Some guys on local forum told me i will loose warranty if i root tablet. Is this true?
2. Again about OTG, is it possible to download torrents (especially big files over 10 GB, like HD movies) directly on USB or even on external HDD?
3. I read nexus supports MHL, but i have to buy Slimport adapter and not MHL adapter to have a picture on monitor or TV. Is this true? Is it possible to have TV, keyboard and mouse (and maybe even USB) connected at same time? If yes, what would i need? USB hub or anything like that?
Can anybody help me with my questions please?
Cheers

I busted out an old wireless mouse (USB dongle) and a bluetooth keyboard to see how well this would work, and it's surprisingly good. I've got a USB hub plugged in which recognizes flashdrives with StickMount. The only issue is that you won't be able to use the SlimPort and a flash drive/USB mouse at the same time.

NightBolid said:
Hi,
I'm a newbie on xda forum and i got some questions before i decided to buy new nexus 7. I got no experiences with Android 4.0 and above versions, so i need a few informations about nexus and android. I already read a few things on multiple forums, including xda. Similar as OP, i would like to replace my laptop with nexus 7.
1. I read nexus 7 owners had problems with USB OTG and there is some application needed for this thing to work. I also read there is the difference between rooted and unrooted tablet. What do i get with rooted tablet? Some guys on local forum told me i will loose warranty if i root tablet. Is this true?
2. Again about OTG, is it possible to download torrents (especially big files over 10 GB, like HD movies) directly on USB or even on external HDD?
3. I read nexus supports MHL, but i have to buy Slimport adapter and not MHL adapter to have a picture on monitor or TV. Is this true? Is it possible to have TV, keyboard and mouse (and maybe even USB) connected at same time? If yes, what would i need? USB hub or anything like that?
Can anybody help me with my questions please?
Cheers
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root: Some of the more sophisticated apps you may want to use need root. I dont think you lose warenty since you can completely restore your tablet to factory settings if needed. But I am not sure about this. I just can say that the process of rooting is NO problem at all.
MHL: Some guy in THIS thread said that MHL is not supported. And he also said that with a slimport adapter you can use any screen as Nexus screen. Same for the keyboard question, I asked basically the same thing, just read the thread.
You can download torrents. Just make sure to get the 32GB version if you want to dowload big files. And you can also mount external usb devices like HDD. But again, if your MicroUSB (where to put the charger) is occupied by slimport adapter to get a picture on the screen, you wont be able to mount any other sub thing as far as explained in THIS thread.

Looking for a MHL / Mirrorlink 1.1 / Android auto phone

I am getting crazy to find a phone, which will be used in the car with a Kenwood DDX-7025 probably. AFAIK the DDX-7025 supports MHL, with Mirrorlink I am unsure, looks like the 7015 supports Mirrorlink. But I want to use Sygic which needs Mirrorlink 1.1 if I don't want to use MHL. Actually I don't know what I should prefer MHL oder Mirrorlink. So my goal is to buy a phone which supports MHL and Mirrorlink 1.1
The cheapest I found is a HTC One (M8), when I check https://cert.mirrorlink.com/ProductListing/ On the on side it is a little bit above my budget and on the other side, I would prefer a bigger display. Android auto shoul be supported too, which needs Android 5.0 min.
Is there a Sony phone which supports Mirrorlink 1.1. Looks like most Sony phones support Mirrorlink 1.0 only.

As a person who tests car head units supporting MirrorLink, CarPlay and Android Auto for a while now, I can only conclude that MirrorLink (even in the 1.1 installment) is the buggiest of all three. Sadly, CarPlay seems to be the most consistent.

Yes, it is really sad. Do you know any headunit which supports Mirrorlink 1.1?

I've never looked to buy a head unit. I've only been involved in the developing of the project, as a tester. Sadly neither of the projects are launched yet and even if they'd be launched, you'd have to buy the whole car, as they were OEM head units.
Bottom line is, if you want remote UI on your head unit, try to search for something that supports Android Auto or CarPlay (depending on what phone you have or want to buy). Usually, head units that are currently in development will support either all three standards or just AA and CP.
Out of the two standards available for Android, ML needs, as an extra, a certified phone. It also is, from what I've seen, more buggy and generally less stable than AA or CP.

What I want is to mirror any app on the head unit screen and that is hard to realize. Android Auto is Google dominated, I don't want the Google navigation and I am not interested in things like how high is the "Empire State Building". Mirrorlink is limited to certain apps, a catastrophy which apps, especially which navigation apps are allowed. So the only solution would be MHL, what I found out. But with MHL it is very critical with the devices. I read that it stopped working sind Android 5.0

What did you end up with?

sounreal said:
What did you end up with?
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Good question, at least I forgot the connection between phone and head unit. I bought an Alpine head unit INE-W990BT (including navigation), which I won't buy again because gps is too inaccurate, I assume Kenwood is better and use this for navigation. In case I need more than I use a Zuk Z1, which has an excellent battery, which is mounted below the wind shield.

I have a kenwood ddx9702 and I connect android auto up with my sprint htc one m8 (bad boys ROM s-off). Using MHL it only mirrors phone screen. Using USB I get android auto to work.

How to enable Miracast and Alt mode on pixel 3a xl?

So im pretty pissed with google for removing the ability, cause i really love the desktop experience of the phone as a small laptop that i can carry anywhere with just an hdmi to usb-c and a wireless bluetooth keyboard.
I bought a cromecast (not the best buy of my life) ,and it not working for my needs.
-The sound only comes from the external screen.And it seem there is no easy way to make ur phone the sound output.
-cromecast 3 needs internet to work,that means if u dont have stable wifi you cannot use it at all,if u have a decent wifi connection its still has a hard time connecting,and it cripples other peoples wifi signal.
-I cannot use an hdmi to usb-c to cast my screen.And then have my bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
Really bad move from google, but im asking here the community if they know about a mod to fix most of this stuff?Any help would be appriciated at this point.Is there a magisk mod or a .build way to fix the miracast and usb tethering ,in order for me to be able to use the cable?

I just replied to the thread above this one that there is a Magisk Module to enable Miracast for Pixel devices but I have not tried it. I only know of it because it's in magisk managers download section..

MikeyConti said:
I just replied to the thread above this one that there is a Magisk Module to enable Miracast for Pixel devices but I have not tried it. I only know of it because it's in magisk managers download section..
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Looks like it's only for pie

adm1jtg said:
Looks like it's only for pie
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So here someone made it work via displaylink adaptor and it works pretty well and with no latency.Go show him some love cause he did a great job. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz8cr3vXKM4

JimboTheDeveloper said:
So here someone made it work via displaylink adapter and it works pretty well and with no latency.Go show him some love cause he did a great job.
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Hey that's my video!! Thanks for sharing it here. I just want to clarify that after testing the old Diamond USB 2.0 adapter (model# BVU195) that I used in the video I did discover that the video output got really jerky when there was a lot of full screen movement going on. I don't know if it's because it's the slow USB 2.0 connection or older DisplayLink graphics chipset. But I did end up buying a newer USB-C powered DisplayLink Certified ASUS MB169B+ Portable monitor and the video output was smooth at full screen on it.

spoonhonda said:
Hey that's my video!! Thanks for sharing it here. I just want to clarify that after testing the old Diamond USB 2.0 adapter (model# BVU195) that I used in the video I did discover that the video output got really jerky when there was a lot of full screen movement going on. I don't know if it's because it's the slow USB 2.0 connection or older DisplayLink graphics chipset. But I did end up buying a newer USB-C powered DisplayLink Certified ASUS MB169B+ Portable monitor and the video output was smooth at full screen on it.
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That is great man i have hope for this method and for pixels.Keep the tests up and upload them.