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Is 4g worth changing for?

This coming week i will be changing phones. I have an unlimited data alltel plan with 10 my circle numbers. I use widi at home all the time and am wondering is it reallt worth buying a 4g phone and have to pay about $50 more a month, just to have the 4g srvice in my area. Im kinda torn right now. If i go 4g, they will make me xhange my plan, and right now, unlimited costs $20 a month for 2 phones.
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That's a huge change in bill cost right now. Would you be moved to a capped 2GB data plan per phone line from your present unlimited data plan? There's been a few LTE outages lately so I would advise you, if possible, to wait a little longer and see if Verizon's LTE network becomes more consistent.

I've always been cool with 3G and given how much of a battery hog 4G can be - I'm not going anywhere. I wouldn't trade that deal in!

SlimSnoopOS said:
That's a huge change in bill cost right now. Would you be moved to a capped 2GB data plan per phone line from your present unlimited data plan? There's been a few LTE outages lately so I would advise you, if possible, to wait a little longer and see if Verizon's LTE network becomes more consistent.
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If you have unlimited 3G, you get unlimited 4G.
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Lot of coin.... Way I see it, the more folk jump to LTE, the faster 3G is going to be.
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Lot of coin.... Way I see it, the more folk jump to LTE, the faster 3G is going to be.
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Well, the more people jump on 4G the less 3G spectrum there will be, Verizon plans to have all 3G spectrum down by 2014.

Smokeey said:
Well, the more people jump on 4G the less 3G spectrum there will be, Verizon plans to have all 3G spectrum down by 2014.
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Didn't know that. So folk without LTE device, do their phones no longer work or what?
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smtom said:
Didn't know that. So folk without LTE device, do their phones no longer work or what?
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Wondering that too. I plan on using my Inc for a while
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smtom said:
Didn't know that. So folk without LTE device, do their phones no longer work or what?
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That would be freakin lame.

by 2014 Verizon plans to be done disabling the 3G network.
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I was sitting at my kitchen table and got these excellent results 23.63Mbps up and 3.76Mbs down. With my 3G speeds on my INC I was NEVER able to even get 1Mb. Image is attached. But I am paying $30 for unlimited data still.

smtom said:
Didn't know that. So folk without LTE device, do their phones no longer work or what?
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Verizon will offer them a sweet deal on upgrading to 4G.

I would wait until phones with better battery life come along. If there is an emergency, a fancy 4G phone with no charge is just a paper weight. BTW, congrats on the $20 unlimited plan! Should've gone with Alltel...

Really, now is the time to upgrade. Get a GNex, get a razor, or get a resound. Personally get a G-Nexus. Excellent phone, its the future of Android. Its setting the industry standard.
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Just ordered a Rezound via Amazon. I think 4G is worth it if you grandfathered in the old unlimited plan. Otherwise, I am not sure how worth it upgrading to 4G would be. Personally I never run into a situation where I have used more than 1 GB of data in a month, and average around 500 MB. However I am now using Google Music and have run into an instance where tethering for a laptop was really useful while being away from my home FiOS.
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I understand that you keep or are grandfathered on the data plan, but isn't there another fee for LTE data? If so, how much?
Either way, the op would have to spend lots more coin for maybe not so much more goodies.
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It isn't worth it until we get S-off on the Rezound; but that is the best replacement for the DInc.

smtom said:
I understand that you keep or are grandfathered on the data plan, but isn't there another fee for LTE data? If so, how much?
Either way, the op would have to spend lots more coin for maybe not so much more goodies.
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My unlimited plan IS for data. I could choose one of the 2/4/10 GB plans or keep unlimited. There was no extra fee for 4G mentioned when I upgraded from my DInc to the Rezound.
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Cool, thanks, didn't know that there wasn't an additional charge for LTE. Maybe I will think about upgrading in April.
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wpbear said:
It isn't worth it until we get S-off on the Rezound; but that is the best replacement for the DInc.
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There is no guarantee on that. I take stock aosp over sense for sure. And gnex has full root, not something rezound can claim yet. Gnex has loads of ROMs and kernels already.
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[question]Why is 4g so important to you?

I just wanted to find out what people think
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If I had it it would be faster than my wifi also sprints 3G is crap.
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'Cause 3g speeds suck on sprint? 4g is descent. If we were getting 1.5m 3g connections I wouldn't sweat it.

Ive got >2mbps with 3g
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lmsomb said:
Ive got >2mbps with 3g
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Very lucky I get about 2.3 with airrave
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I get 5Mbs when 4G is good. Downloads are super fast. Don't get that spinning circle for so long. Can't wait for LTE.
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By the way I live in california. Highest 4g speeds I've experienced are close to 8mbps
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lmsomb said:
By the way I live in california. Highest 4g speeds I've experienced are close to 8mbps
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4G is about 11-13 around me ... when I get it
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Lol I don't even use 4G. Haven't used it since I got the Epic on release date.
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I don't even get 4g in my area. Pretty lame when I'm paying $10 a month extra for it...

shadowlink217 said:
I don't even get 4g in my area. Pretty lame when I'm paying $10 a month extra for it...
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That's not what the 10$ is for... its for premium data... every data phone has it. Least android phones ... from my knowledge.
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Cause its way faster then wifi. I have wifi at home. I get 4g around the city and sometimes at home, but when I get it, I quickly switch to 4g. Cm9 or people's rom + 4g =Epic phone!
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Big Goron said:
That's not what the 10$ is for... its for premium data... every data phone has it. Least android phones ... from my knowledge
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I think I'm gonna set my phone to 24/7 roam on verizon to get my $10 worth then.

Not important to me. Neither is 3g for that matter. I spend 90% of the day within reach of wifi. And when I'm out and about, I don't mind the slow 3g speeds (500k). I don't do anything on my phone that is bandwidth intensive.
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Big Goron said:
That's not what the 10$ is for... its for premium data... every data phone has it. Least android phones ... from my knowledge.
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Actually the first month after the Epic's release date, Sprint store sales reps were telling customers the additional $10 was specifically for either using 4G or to bring 4G to your area within the next 6 months. That's the only reason I want 4G, the company allowed a huge amount of reps to sell the phone with that sales pitch. To try and quell the angst, Sprint implemented the charge across all "smart devices".
Closest 4G area is ~400mi away from me.

4G area is pointless in my area. I've rarely ever gotten it, and all it does is drain battery anyway. I'm curious to see how good LTE will be, and if it'll actually be in my area for once.

Big Goron said:
That's not what the 10$ is for... its for premium data... every data phone has it. Least android phones ... from my knowledge.
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Wink wink. . . . nudge nudge. We all know the 10 dollars is for 4g no matter what Sprint calls it now. It ABSOLUTELY was for 4g service in the beginning before everyone complained and Sprint decided to just make everyone pay the fee, as the only phones that had to pay were 4g phones.

Ummm...cause it's fast. Being able to stream youtube, internet radio and HBO at my work desk is kind of awesome. Hope LTE is even better, and just as unlimited.

I get 4g everywhere now
Its almost been 2 years I have had a 4g phone and finally I have 4g where I need it
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Non 4g phones get this extra charge... its android's premium data need.. hint hint nudge nudge I still think it to be for 4g, but to be on the correct side its for PREMIUM data.
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My cousin has a droid 3

But he's tired of paying so much money and wants to come to sprint but I told him to wait because there's no good phones out with a keyboard and its not worth putting a new 2 year contract for a phone from 2010.
Then I remembered he's on verizon lol think it'd be possible to flash it to sprint? Will that be illegal? I mean, he's willing to pay the etf to get out of verizon, its his to do whatever with from that point on right?
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Hate to be that guy but this is a question... but when kenny moves it..
I think he could flash it to an alternative carrier when he cancels it.. unsure of which ones but its possible with a donor phone.
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Sprint only adds sprint ESNs so no.
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marcusant said:
Sprint only adds sprint ESNs so no.
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With a donor phone you defenitely could... kind of defeats the purpose though cuz you would have to buy another phone...
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flastnoles11 said:
With a donor phone you defenitely could... kind of defeats the purpose though cuz you would have to buy another phone...
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The phone has to be in service, right? So can he just get a BS cheap texting phone and donate his service from there to his droid 3 till a new KB phone comes out?
I'm so jealous of users on att who could just put in a sim card from t-mobile into their iphone and never have bother att again
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sprint buyback will pay 85 dollars for a droid 3 regardless of condition.
https://secure.sprintbuyback.com/cns/node/5

A_Flying_Fox said:
The phone has to be in service, right? So can he just get a BS cheap texting phone and donate his service from there to his droid 3 till a new KB phone comes out?
I'm so jealous of users on att who could just put in a sim card from t-mobile into their iphone and never have bother att again
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Theoretically yes... but if you want 3g, the donor phone has to be 3g also... tons of guides on how to do this in development...
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It will cause a &*&%^* load of problems... Epic > motorola anyways...

austin420 said:
sprint buyback will pay 85 dollars for a droid 3 regardless of condition.
https://secure.sprintbuyback.com/cns/node/5
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This is the route I would take!
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He'll be so disappointed when switching from verizon to sprint...my girlfriends droid 2 just blazed past my evo as far as 3g speeds.

But to do this you would have to change the esn/meid of the Droid which there is no way to do currently.
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qccoles said:
He'll be so disappointed when switching from verizon to sprint...my girlfriends droid 2 just blazed past my evo as far as 3g speeds.
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whats the point for speed? To see who's faster? Who cares?
As long as you can get your data or info whatever you need like if you need directions or need to hop on the internet and get something whether it be 20 seconds or 45 seconds it doesn't matter.
And if your in a hurry you should have planned ahead, and don't "say well with LTE or faster 3g speeds i don't need to" well that just makes you lazy as hell.
I rather pay 200$ for 3 lines being UNLIMITED versus 250+ on VZW.
And yes were unlimited because the fact its slower but again who cares.
just saying..........

Sprint galaxy nexus now

$.01 on amazon yee ima so get it
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You forgot to mention that its 2 yr contract. Honestly, I'd just get the GSM nexus and get a prepaid..

donsh00tmesanta said:
$.01 on amazon yee ima so get it
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Any specific reason why you want to be stuck on Sprint with those 3G speeds? Unless you live in Texas (only 4G LTE out) I don't know why you'd want to go with Sprint over GSM + Prepaid plan.

martonikaj said:
Any specific reason why you want to be stuck on Sprint with those 3G speeds? Unless you live in Texas (only 4G LTE out) I don't know why you'd want to go with Sprint over GSM + Prepaid plan.
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The Verizon gnex is a penny on Amazon also. Has been for a while.
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c-had2001 said:
The Verizon gnex is a penny on Amazon also. Has been for a while.
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Same argument applies to Verizon. But at least they have good service.

You couldn't pay me to go back to Sprint.

I'm not going for that horrible CDMA speeds even if they pay me...bad deal for someone to be stuck on sprint for 2 years waiting for LTE to come. GSM is the way to go or Verizon if network coverage and LTE is important.

I already have a pre2 gsm lol
Plus im still hoping sprint nv will improve everything.......
Nonetheless unlimited cant be beat so far ive used 18gb
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donsh00tmesanta said:
I already have a pre2 gsm lol
Plus im still hoping sprint nv will improve everything.......
Nonetheless unlimited cant be beat so far ive used 18gb
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Sprint won't be getting better anytime soon. Don't buy a phone for what you think it'll be. Buy a phone for what it is now...
I don't know how you're using 18GB a month, Sprint's speeds are atrociously slow.

Its on 3g and I get about 250KB/s so I have been netflixing/hulu/HBO go/xfinity play/crackle alot here
Honestly enough for me on a phone no need for 2MB/s so there lte here will be only a bonus. Other areas I agree too so slow hopefully lte there will help. Plus unlimited is unlimited no matter what.
Either the tower has been upgraded recently or hardly any sprint users here the latter is impossible since I know so many have sprint here.
Plus been downloading roms like mad
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T-Mobile offering truly unlimited Data on Sept. 5

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/08/t-mo...unlimited-data-plan-thats-actually-unlimited/
At a time when Verizon and AT&T are charging more for Data, T-Mobile comes to the rescue with unlimited Data for $30 for Classic Plans and $20 for Value Plans.

<3 I am excited! I was actually considering switching to Sprint for truly unlimited data, but now that my beloved T-Mobile is getting it, I am never leaving!
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The unlimited data plan does not allow tethering. This is a quite reasonable limitation in my opinion but even so I am sure it will be bypassed on rooted phones by Sept. 7th.

Its almost TOO good to be true. But Tmo does take out the included HotSpot Tether (easy work around for us here tho ). This + the iPhone5/LTE (hopefully for Tmo's sake) + HEAVY marketing (including improved network toting & great prices) will bring new customers in droves. Tmo needs this combo punch for the holiday season.
Also, does anyone know how to only test the 1900 HSPA+ band on the GNex instead of AWS/1700 HSPA+? Tmo has been working on HSPA+ over their 1900 band for some months now, and I want to see if any towers in and around Seattle are enabled yet.

Have not been this excited about something from tmo in a long time. Still waiting for a catch, but damn this will be epic. I get unlimited through my dealer line anyway, but will be awesome for my wife.
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Why not go to boost mobile?
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johnnycooper said:
Why not go to boost mobile?
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They use sprint towers. I prefer speeds faster than old people f#&king.
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johnnycooper said:
why not go to boost mobile?
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hahahahahaha. Piss poor network (Sprint). Have you seen their data speeds? Not even worth it.

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Why not go to boost mobile?
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Crappy speeds and terrible phones? 2 good reasons right there.

Must be different in the south. Gsm sucks compared to cdma. At one time gsm was the **** here and then it went to ****.
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My speeds are great!!! Average 20+. See my signature for one of my highest speed test.
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hahahahahaha. Piss poor network (Sprint). Have you seen their data speeds? Not even worth it.
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Crappy speeds and terrible phones? 2 good reasons right there.
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1.7 mb down on Sprint 3g is good enough for me. As far as phones, you have to clone to have a decent one besides the EVO 4g LTE
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Once my nightmare with sprint ends, I will definitely go back to Tmob. They have the best customer service IMHO.
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Dude, if you hate Sprint that much just root your phone and throw a Verizon prl on and just use it. Sprint will let you out of the contract for sure
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My speeds are great!!! Average 20+. See my signature for one of my highest speed test.
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I wasn't referring to their miniscule LTE network. I was talking about their horrible CDMA/EVDO network.

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Dude, if you hate Sprint that much just root your phone and throw a Verizon prl on and just use it. Sprint will let you out of the contract for sure
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My phone is all custom...I honestly thought about it before, just hate doing these kinda of things...I take responsibility for my mistakes..lol
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1.7 mb down on Sprint 3g is good enough for me. As far as phones, you have to clone to have a decent one besides the EVO 4g LTE
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Not good enough for heavier data users that watch HD videos, wants quick web browsing, wants to download files quickly, etc. 1.7mb is not enough.

Hell yea
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I guess you are right, I use WiFi more than 3g data because of battery life
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johnnycooper said:
I guess you are right, I use WiFi more than 3g data because of battery life
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Great battery life using HSPA+ here.