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ALL AOSP Roms FAIL, Help

I don't post here often, but I am on IRC all the time for those of you that do know me. I have been having serious issues with the AOSP Roms. Cyanogen, Ruby, and Incredible Does all either freeze on me or reboot sooner or later. I've went so far as to install nothing else except the Rom and it still freezes or reboots. I've done this test with all three, I even dialed down the processor while on them and still NO DICE. I'm not an Android expert, but I do have a bachelor's in IT so I feel I'm pretty tech savvy. I was told on IRC that others are having similar problems with all the AOSP roms. I'm trying to get a consensus of who else is experiencing this and some more suggestions on how to fix this.
I appreciate all the help
~Thanks , AnthonyKash

Yeah this is very odd. A couple of us in ##incredibleroms have been working with AnthonyKash to figure this out. So far we have had no luck at all. No Sense UI ROMs do this to him, it seems like it's only vanilla ROMs. Very strange............

anthonykash said:
I don't post here often, but I am on IRC all the time for those of you that do know me. I have been having serious issues with the AOSP Roms. Cyanogen, Ruby, and Incredible Does all either freeze on me or reboot sooner or later. I've went so far as to install nothing else except the Rom and it still freezes or reboots. I've done this test with all three, I even dialed down the processor while on them and still NO DICE. I'm not an Android expert, but I do have a bachelor's in IT so I feel I'm pretty tech savvy. I was told on IRC that others are having similar problems with all the AOSP roms. I'm trying to get a consensus of who else is experiencing this and some more suggestions on how to fix this.
I appreciate all the help
~Thanks , AnthonyKash
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I know you posted this months ago but was wondering if you figured out what is causing this? I too can't use ANY aosp Rome because they all end up being unusable after a couple of hours. It's almost like the CPU slows down to a dramatic crawl. Only way to fix is to do a battery pull to reset. I have cleared cache, dalvik, uninstalled setcpu, all with no luck. Anyone have any insights?

Check integrity and space of SD card - maybe even remove, copy contents to PC, reformat to FAT32, copy a few nandroids back to SD and reinstall in device. Also make sure there is ample space on SD.
Absent that, have you tried a different SD card? AOSP ROMs interface w/ the SD considerably more than Sense ROMs.
Also, check radio version - recommend at least 2.15.xx
HBOOT version may come into play as well.

+1 to the above post. Seems like some sense files are bring left somewhere.
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smtom said:
Check integrity and space of SD card - maybe even remove, copy contents to PC, reformat to FAT32, copy a few nandroids back to SD and reinstall in device. Also make sure there is ample space on SD.
Absent that, have you tried a different SD card? AOSP ROMs interface w/ the SD considerably more than Sense ROMs.
Also, check radio version - recommend at least 2.15.xx
HBOOT version may come into play as well.
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I don't think its my SD Card, I just got a new one a month ago and the same thing happened with my old SD Card. I have 4 gigs left empty of a 16 gig sd card. Would it make a difference if I installed from EMMC using RA recovery?
Hboot 0.92
Radio 2.15.00.09.01
Am on the latest versions of Hboot and radio right?

One thing I do find very weird is that even after doing full wipes of user data, cache and dalvik, when I boot up on CM7 my wifi settings still work. I would have expected I needed to reenter all of those settings. Or does this stuff get saved to the SD or internal storage...normal? If it is not, then why are data wipes in Recovery not cleanning up my files?

I've not had this problem.
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greatchief1 said:
I don't think its my SD Card, I just got a new one a month ago and the same thing happened with my old SD Card. I have 4 gigs left empty of a 16 gig sd card. Would it make a difference if I installed from EMMC using RA recovery?
Hboot 0.92
Radio 2.15.00.09.01
Am on the latest versions of Hboot and radio right?
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Yep, those are the latest versions.
AOSP ROMs offer automatic reinstall of apps and data to Google when flashing, if that option is checked when flashed. That's where/how/why settings and/or apps still appear as before.
So, if Sense ROMs are not wonky, maybe it is an app you have installed on the AOSP ROM?
Long diagnostic road, (well understood by us IT folk ) but perhaps uninstall apps in reverse install date order of the app, reboot as you go thru, see which one may have been a culprit.
Absent that, perhaps factory reset in recovery, install an AOSP rom w/out choosing to reinstall apps.
Maybe try another different AOSP ROM?
I know the SD interacts quite a bit more with the SD compared to Sense ROMs - again, maybe copy SD card contents to PC, reformat SD to FAT32 either on the PC or in phone, maybe both - then d/l an AOSP ROM on a clean SD, see if it's still wonky.

smtom said:
Yep, those are the latest versions.
AOSP ROMs offer automatic reinstall of apps and data to Google when flashing, if that option is checked when flashed. That's where/how/why settings and/or apps still appear as before.
So, if Sense ROMs are wonky, maybe it is an app you have installed?
Long diagnostic road, (well understood by us IT folk ) but perhaps uninstall apps in reverse install date order of the app, reboot as you go thru, see which one may have been a culprit.
Absent that, perhaps factory reset in recovery, install an AOSP rom w/out choosing to reinstall apps.
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Sense ROMS work great, its AOSP roms that are giving my phone fits lol. Well last night I tried something new.
-I changed my radio from 2.15.00.09.01 to 2.15.00.07.28 Official Froyo radio.
-Installed CM7 #14 from the EMMC versus SD CARD.
-"Hit Wipe All" in recovery about 10 times in a row before I flashed CM7
I hope changing the radio to "official" is what does it. Anyone running AOSP roms using the leaked radio 2.15.00.09.01 ?

Radio?
Yes, do let us know whether the xx.09 radio was the (a) culprit.
I run the older 2.15.xx.07.28 one, never had issues w/ AOSP ROMs.

I had an issue with this using cm7 nightlies, and I WOULD post it there but the new, ~totally awesome~ rule they are implementing (can't post in the dev forum w/ less than 10 posts) prevents me from doing that (Which means I have to spam the other sub forums?).
ANYWAYS, I got a bigger sd card from a friend, and I went to erase it under the sd card settings. Then i got a low space notification, saying I had 9 mb free of 7 Terbytes. Rebooting the phone caused it to go into boot loop. If your situation sounds like mine then do this
Boot into CWM, and from there you can mount the SD card and format it, as well as copy any backups.
I did not have any luck with restoring the phone to a previous AOSP rom, even after wiping the cache/dalvik. Maybe there's another one that could be wiped that I didn't do. Anyways, I installed a Sense based rom, and from there I was able to install Cyanogen mod.
Good luck.

smtom said:
Yes, do let us know whether the xx.09 radio was the (a) culprit.
I run the older 2.15.xx.07.28 one, never had issues w/ AOSP ROMs.
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Well it turns out that the radio version I was using was not the issue because the phone became unresponsive this morning when I tried to wake it up. To be specific, it does allow me to swipe to unlock but painfully in slow motion.
So that rules at the radio...which leaves me with its either the ROM/Kernel or some rogue app.
So this morning I wiped all user data in recovery and reinstalled CM7#14 but this time I did not log on to my google account during setup and have not installed any apps. So far no issues, but the true test is trying to wake the phone up tomorrow in the morning. If there are no issues, then that solves it (ITS A FREAKING APP).
If it is a rogue app that has been haunting me these past couple of weeks then who has the best way to identify which one is the offender? Why would a rogue app only affect me using AOSP roms and not Sense?
My suspicions are with..(Locale, Beautiful Widgets, ADW EX, Swype, CardioTrainer, Handcent) but I guess process of elimination is what its going to take.
Thanks to all for the help and recommendations.

cougar618 said:
I had an issue with this using cm7 nightlies, and I WOULD post it there but the new, ~totally awesome~ rule they are implementing (can't post in the dev forum w/ less than 10 posts) prevents me from doing that (Which means I have to spam the other sub forums?).
ANYWAYS, I got a bigger sd card from a friend, and I went to erase it under the sd card settings. Then i got a low space notification, saying I had 9 mb free of 7 Terbytes. Rebooting the phone caused it to go into boot loop. If your situation sounds like mine then do this
Boot into CWM, and from there you can mount the SD card and format it, as well as copy any backups.
I did not have any luck with restoring the phone to a previous AOSP rom, even after wiping the cache/dalvik. Maybe there's another one that could be wiped that I didn't do. Anyways, I installed a Sense based rom, and from there I was able to install Cyanogen mod.
Good luck.
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Please tell me u meant 7gb not 7tb
If you have a SD card that huge I beg you to tell me where to get it
I've heard of a 2tb SD but they haven't released it
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just wanted to give an udate on my issue...as I suspected it was an app that was causing my phone to crash using aosp roms. The offending app is Locale, wierd that a it never gave me problems using Sense based roms.

greatchief1 said:
just wanted to give an udate on my issue...as I suspected it was an app that was causing my phone to crash using aosp roms. The offending app is Locale, wierd that a it never gave me problems using Sense based roms.
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Good stuff. Glad to see it all finally worked out.

[Q] Very, very frustrating odd happenings...cause?

I have tried everything I know to do so I'm here asking for help....
I run Calks ROM and recently tried updating without wiping (normally never do). After a couple days of a buggy phone, I decided to wipe data, format, format, format, wipe data, etc and flashed it again. Start using it and it starts acting up again. Did my wipe/format deal and flashed stock...and left it stock. Within the first day it locked up and reset itself multiple times.
I don't know what to do...is there anyway to start any "cleaner" than formatting everything multiple times? I would really like a working phone again...

Are you restoring your information with titanium backup? If you are that's your problem.
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gqstatus0685 said:
Are you restoring your information with titanium backup? If you are that's your problem.
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+1. You can restore apps only, but don't restore apps + data.

Is this the only rom that's causing it?

I never, ever, ever use any "backup" anything. All apps get reloaded one by one and settings get modified one by one...
This is happening with every rom I try. I format EVERYTHING (except SD card, which is my next attempt at fixing...). This is why it's so frustrating. I can't blame anything. I try running the ROMs stock (no not-included apps) and the phone is still running like crap.

Tried deleting the ".android_secure" folder from the sd card?
If it's happening on every rom, and you completely wipe every thing correctly, the only thing they have in common is the sd card contents. Right?
My Evo made me Swype this from the XDA App.

xNotta said:
Tried deleting the ".android_secure" folder from the sd card?
If it's happening on every rom, and you completely wipe every thing correctly, the only thing they have in common is the sd card contents. Right?
My Evo made me Swype this from the XDA App.
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Android secure is supposed to be deleted during the fActory reset. I will try getting the SD formatted tonight and start FRESH, FRESH....

perhaps it's the kernel?

SpaceMonky said:
perhaps it's the kernel?
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I've tried many kernels (stock, stock tweaked, ziggy, kingxklack)

awenthol said:
Android secure is supposed to be deleted during the fActory reset. I will try getting the SD formatted tonight and start FRESH, FRESH....
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Mines never been deleted from stock factory reset or reset with amon.
It started to cause problems with app downloads from me switching roms and reinstalling all my apps and moving them.
Just remember, if you have apps on your sd card (Not on a separate partition) move them to the phone before deleting it if you want to keep them.
Any luck fixing it yet?

What bout nand restore? Did you ever make a nand backup? It has always fixed any issues I've ever had.

I've been traveling for work and haven't had a chance to sit down and mess with it since the night I initially posted. Hopefully it is as simple as androidsecure not getting deleted...thanks for the heads up.

I just did a FULL FULL FULL wipe of the phone. "Factory reset," "format; SD, SD ext, system, boot, data, etc"....
I then flashed zip, rebooted and let it sit for 10 min before turning it on...upon unlocking, it locked up.
THIS IS GETTING RIDICULOUS!!! Is it possible the phone is just effed???

squick said:
What bout nand restore? Did you ever make a nand backup? It has always fixed any issues I've ever had.
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No good either...the last "good" backup comes up with "checksum error."
I'm not big on nand backups, since I usually do full wipes and restart from scratch. I don't really care if I can restore an old setup.

If you can't find a software reason for its acting up, it's a hardware problem. Full wipes take care of pretty much any software problem.
I would suggest unrooting and taking it by a Sprint store. If none of the suggestions you've tried so far have done any good, that's about your only option.
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TheMagicalSock said:
If you can't find a software reason for its acting up, it's a hardware problem. Full wipes take care of pretty much any software problem.
I would suggest unrooting and taking it by a Sprint store. If none of the suggestions you've tried so far have done any good, that's about your only option.
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That's not an option either...as I bought it outright off ebay.
Guess I'll just go to the Epic...

Market download problem - only affects Copilot

Hi, hopefully someone can help with a weird problem I'm having.
Copilot started closing back to the home screen after 5 minutes of use a couple of weeks ago. I tried all sorts to sort it out including uninstalling. But now when I try to redownload it the arrow appears in the notification area for 5 seconds then disappears.
I've tried clearing the market cache and data.
I've got 35mb of space available.
I've signed out of and back into google talk.
Everything else downloads fine both free and paid for.
I'm running LeeDrOiD 2.3d with a2sd+.
Anyone got any idea what could be wrong?
I'd be very grateful as this is a major pain and Copilot tech support seem to have run out of ideas.
Thanks.
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Did you change your partition tables? Could you not have enough space on your cache partition as can happen with the oxygen partition table?
If not I suggest trying an alternative marketplace like app brain.
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I've not touched the partition table.
Just tried from appbrain too, but that links to the market and does the same thing.
Thanks for trying though.
Any other ideas?
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I have same setup with Leedroid 2.3d and a2sd.
Not sure if this will help but, ll was fine while I had an ext 3 partition. I altered it to try one of the HD ports (which insisted on Ext4) which refused to load and I had to put Leedroid back on (with the ext4) All kinds of problems then including yours.
I ended up doing the gpart thing again to move the partition back to ext3 and all is fine now. Copilot installed first time.

I was running a hd rom before going back to LeeDrOiD. So might have gone for ext 4. Can gparted change it to ext 3 without losing the contents?
Can I check on the phone whether I have ext3 or ext 4?
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Bobbajob said:
I was running a hd rom before going back to LeeDrOiD. So might have gone for ext 4. Can gparted change it to ext 3 without losing the contents?
Can I check on the phone whether I have ext3 or ext 4?
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if you do a nandroid backup before you re-partition your card..... then choose the advanced restore option and restore the sd-ext

Right thanks for that. I'll give it a go and report back... hopefully.
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I'm beginning to think my phone might be quite ill.
I am doing a nandroid backup and it's been stuck at backing up cache now for about 10 minutes and the bar isn't moving.
Any ideas what could be wrong with it?

Bobbajob said:
I'm beginning to think my phone might be quite ill.
I am doing a nandroid backup and it's been stuck at backing up cache now for about 10 minutes and the bar isn't moving.
Any ideas what could be wrong with it?
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takes me 20-25 mins to do a nandroid backup btw remember to back up your sd card, partitioning it will erase both partitions

Patience was needed it took 20 mins. It's usually a lot faster than that.
Converted my partition to ext3, restored the backup and guess what. It's exactly the same.
Download arrow appears for 5 seconds then disappears.
Back to the drawing board.
Any other suggestions?
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Sorry to bump, but still no solution yet.

I had market download issues once.
I used the Catlog app to look into the logs right after trying to download and saw an error message.
Apparently some temporary file couldn't be created because it was already there. A manual delete of the file using root explorer fixed the issue.
I don't remember the path and the name of the file and the issue might be different in your case so I suggest checking the Catlog app.
Try to download in the market then open Catlog. Then scroll until you see errors (in red).
It should give you a lead...

Managed to solve the problem with a full wipe.
Clearing the cache in recovery didn't do it.
Bit drastic, but needed to be done.
Thanks for the helps.

Fc 99% of the time

For the past 5 months I have been using cm7 with no problems. But in the last month or so problems have been slowly coming up. It started with phone freezes then it slowed down greatly, then I got fc on EVERY APP! So then I switched to synergy hoping to fix the problems but there still there. I need help quick because I can't even make calls with out it freezing.
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monkey10120 said:
For the past 5 months I have been using cm7 with no problems. But in the last month or so problems have been slowly coming up. It started with phone freezes then it slowed down greatly, then I got fc on EVERY APP! So then I switched to synergy hoping to fix the problems but there still there. I need help quick because I can't even make calls with out it freezing.
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have you wiped everything (data, cache, dalvik) in recovery BEFORE flashing?

I just went through the same thing with the stock rom (rooted without the verizon crapware).. Had it since Day 1 of availability.. then a few days ago.. force closing all the time..
Even when switching roms. Even when NOT restoring with titanium.. Did everything fresh (ugh.. you have no idea how many hours).... and photos were disappearing from it
My first thoughts were "frak... I really screwed up something" (my niece dropped in on the floor a few days earlier.)
Then the IT in me decided to fall back on my experience. K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid).....
If even changing roms didn't fix it.. what did everything have in common? The SD Card.
So I formatted the card making sure to take everything off I needed. Put it back in.. and put a fresh rom on.
No problems since. I'm guessing the file system of the SD card went a little wonky after a year of putting files on.. taking off.. putting on.. etc

Yep I cleared everything, data, cache
D cache and batt stats. Im going to try the SD card thing right now
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Just gonna throw this out there. Try also formatting /system in the "mounts and storage" menu.

So far so good. The SD trick worked. But I want to put my titanium backup folder back on my SD card to get my apps back but I am not sure if that was the problem.
Also about the format /system l, I was thinking about that too. But if I can't get things working in the end I will format the system, data and cache.
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monkey10120 said:
So far so good. The SD trick worked. But I want to put my titanium backup folder back on my SD card to get my apps back but I am not sure if that was the problem.
Also about the format /system l, I was thinking about that too. But if I can't get things working in the end I will format the system, data and cache.
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Glad it worked.. after 3 very frustrating days for me and trying multiple roms and losing a few pics... glad I was able to at least past the info on to someone else

I am having this problem now with apps that are not installed on my SD card (which I just upgraded to larger size). All the Google apps are fc and some other ones here and there.
Were the fc apps all installed on SD?
I was thinking about a fresh gapps flash but may try the SD card first.
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Glad I found this thread! I've been having same problem and couldn't figure out if it was a rogue app or not. It seemed like right after I flashed a new rom it would run great but after a few days I would start having trouble and eventually I'd have to flash another new one or try same one again.
I have a question though....I know most things on sd card are ok to delete since any app will put new folder on there if it needs to (obviously keeps pics, titanium backups, rom backups etc.)
But I don't have a way of formatting the sdcard OUTside of the phone. I don't have a card reader on my computer. Would it be ok to do this while the phone is plugged in? (something tells me no but...)
My only other option would be to put the sdcard in my old HTC ozone and try it that way...

You can just plug your phone into your PC, mount your SD card and reformat it that way. It works for me.

jackbtha1 said:
You can just plug your phone into your PC, mount your SD card and reformat it that way. It works for me.
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This ^^
OR
Random thought
You can try to repair the SD card before you format( if the repair doesn't work). Mount SD card to the computer via usb. Right click, properties, tools tab. Run error check. Just like a computer files get corrupted.
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Phone is randomly rebooting on phantom hacker blazer rom v 3.2

My phone was running great for about a week with this rom but today it has shut itself off twice. I am also using the ics theme. Any ideas as to why its doing this all of the sudden? Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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rbtrucking said:
My phone was running great for about a week with this rom but today it has shut itself off twice. I am also using the ics theme. Any ideas as to why its doing this all of the sudden? Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
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First off are you undervolting? Secondly if you have an issue like this it can be the cause of a few things. Did you restore data with Titanium Backup?
Also, even though it may not be specific to this rom if you do a search on here or google for random reboots you may find solutions that others have had. I understand the rom may not be the same but quite honestly this is a semi-common issue with custom roms and this question has been asked quite often.
Good luck and when in doubt wipe/format all and just load the rom and run it for a few hours without any apps

Did you put that theme over a stock rom?
odexed?

I put it over the blazer rom which it was made for. I cleared delvic cache and cache partition and it hasnt rebooted since and that was hours ago. Is that something you should do every once in a while to keep it running good?
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Also no I am not undervolting or overclocking or anything like that. All system settings are default.

Well I thought everything was ok with the phone but it is restarting again! I am getting really frustrated I love this phone but I dont know how much more of its bull**** I can take! I am getting ready to throw the ****ing thing out the window! How would I know if I am undervoltin or anything like that? I did not mess with any system settings when I installed the rom.

playya said:
First off are you undervolting? Secondly if you have an issue like this it can be the cause of a few things. Did you restore data with Titanium Backup?
Also, even though it may not be specific to this rom if you do a search on here or google for random reboots you may find solutions that others have had. I understand the rom may not be the same but quite honestly this is a semi-common issue with custom roms and this question has been asked quite often.
Good luck and when in doubt wipe/format all and just load the rom and run it for a few hours without any apps
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I did not do a full factory wipe because in the directions he said to just flash the blazer rom 2.0 then a modified calkulins wipe then flash the 3.2 He said no data wipe was required.

Hey I was just wondering could this be caused by a faulty sd card? I noticed yesterday that when I went to access my sd card it was unavailable. Could the sd card bieng faulty cause a system crash that would lead to a reboot? I do have some apps installed on the sd card.

rbtrucking said:
Hey I was just wondering could this be caused by a faulty sd card? I noticed yesterday that when I went to access my sd card it was unavailable. Could the sd card bieng faulty cause a system crash that would lead to a reboot? I do have some apps installed on the sd card.
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If you really want to fix your issue you have to troubleshoot to death. Do it all, format sdcard, do a clean install and anything else you can think of. Thats the best way to troubleshoot. Just nandroid your setup now and use TB to save data and go for it....
Don't worry bout asking us since a response may not come fast enough so just jump right in and get your phone up to speed. Or your can odin a stock EL26/13/30 rom..