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Leaving my OP in place, but I have rewritten the description with much more detail and pics here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25401417#post25401417
I suggest skipping to there.
I am looking for general tips here. E.g., not asking you to diagnose my specific problem so much as give me ideas of what else to check or try.
Lately I have had unexplained (to me) battery drain. Yesterday I lost about 25 percent in an hour while the phone idled. It is not a constant thing, though. I can go an hour and loose 1 percent then loose massive amounts in the next hour.
Now, i have searched, but I have not found anything that applies to me.
I have:
Tried a different radio
Tried a different kernel
Reflashed my rom
Phone is entering deep sleep according to cpu spy
There are no unusual or excessive wake locks according to better battery stats
No apps are using a lot of battery.
I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
Ideas?
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
Zepius said:
might be your phone is loosing signal? i would check the battery stats in the settings menu to see if you have a poor mobile signal.
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I am in a low signal area at work, but putting the phone in airplane mode and dissabling background syn does not stop the drain.
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So I don't think I can blame it on that.
Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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can you give us screen shots of battery stats?
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Do you have any exchange sync on your phone?
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I do, and on reflection it is a possible culprit since I added it recently.
Didn't occur to me since it was producing no wakelocks and the battery stats did not showing as using much battery.
I shall turn it off for a bit and see if that helps. (unless there is some other way to test if it is the problem first.) I am off to the search button!
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This is from yesterday when i set it down unused for about 90 minutes. The amount of wakes seems liek a lot, but it is similar to what i see when i have far far less drain, so I don't think that is the problem. I didn't get the app list screen, but out should screen as the only major drain with about 2 minutes.
I know it is shows poor signal strength, so immediately after that shot I put it in airplane mode, turned of sync, and rebooted. The battery continued to drain and graph had the exact same slope under those conditions. (Forget to get a pic though.)
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System panel paid version with monitoring enabled is the best for tracking apps using CPU.
OK, still working on this.
To recap:
When the screen is off, and no apps are running I sometimes get inexplicable battery drain. This is occurring under conditions when I should be experiencing little or no drain at all. I say this becuase:
The screen is of and no bakground apps are running
the phone is NOT awake and IS entering deep sleep (as confirmed by cpuspy)
there are no unusual kernel or partial wake locks
there are no apps listed as using unexpected ammounts of battery
This is not a universal problem. The phone *often* behaves as expected. I can leave the phone off for an hour and see a 1% or 2% drain, and I am happy with that. However, sometimes, randomly, it goes nuts on my.
This graph from a few weeks ago shows what I mean. Look in the green box. The phone is sleeping, and the screen is off. The graph starts as a flatline, then, all of a sudden, it begins to drop precipitously.
Here is a graph that shows the battery dropping at the same rate whether the phone is awake or sleeping:
I have gone the following to try and narrow the problem down:
Done a completely fresh install of my Rom including a system wipe.
Tried two kernels (the aokp default and several relases of Franco's
Tried a different radio
Activated and installed a new sim card
I have come to suspect that the problem is network related. When the problem starts, sometimes going into airplane mode and back and/or toggling 2g only temporarily fixes the problem.
I suspect that something is happening with my connection to T-Mobile that keeps the network running and draining power. This is pure speculation, but it is all I can think of.
I installed juice defender (which I had not been previously running) and noticed the that, sometimes, it didn't turn of data when it should have. I also noticed the following two things happen:
I do not believe it is a rom problem, since if so, someone else would be reporting this. It might be an app problem, but if so the app is draining battery without a wake lock and while the phone is in deep sleep.
It is not exchange (as was suggested in this thread) since it continues when I ev my exchange account.
I have no idea what else to do or try.
Since it happens at random and takes a while to identify, uninstalling one app at a time to test for that could easily take months to narrow down a misbehaving app.
I know it is not a hardware issue since last month I got this:
That was with AOKP and Franco (earlier versions obviously)
I have google searched till my fingers bleed.
I am a long way form being an expert, and I suspect I may have overlooked something obvious.
Please, any thoughts??
Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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1. Calibrate battery
2. If you really wanna find the problem, install the rom with no mods or apps and run it and see if it still happens. Then add back each mod/app one at a time
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
Here is that chart for last night.
I had about 1 hour and 30 minutes screen on time with 65% left when I went to bed. When I woke up, phone was dead.
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Damn you definitely have a major issue and I don't know what it could be. But when my phone sleeps itstays dead flat with no awake bars, and drops 1% every 3 hours.
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Mine often does that. But sometimes it doesn't. It is the fact that it happens seemingly at random that makes it so annoying and hard to track down.
I would replace the battery
One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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One thing you haven't rulled out is that the battery itself is bad.
Have a friend you could swap with for a day, or at least long enough to see if the problem follows? If your battery drops on their phone that is also a good indication.
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The thought has occurred to me, but unfortunately, no, I don't have a friend I can swap with. And really, since I have had the phone less than 3 months, the battery *shouldn't* be bad, but yeah, defective products happen.
If I cannot find any other cause I will likely order a new battery and see if that fixes it.
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While I appreciate your effort, this is remarkable unhelpful for the following reasons:
1. "calibrating" the battery is a myth and doesn't actually do something. Even if it did, it would not explain the symptoms I have described. I have been around xda long enough to know it is the knee-jerk reaction to any battery question, but it is not relevant here.
2. Since the problem occurs at random, and sometimes takes hours to show up, (For instance, last night I charged to full and tried to catch it happening. For 4 hours nothing happened, it behaved perfectly. Then I went to bed and it immediately started to fall and was dead by morning) and since I have over 100 apps, your suggestion could easily take *over a year* to follow. Believe me, I have thought about it, but I started this thread hoping for ideas that would allow me to avoid it.
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"? Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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1. yes battery calibration does make a difference.
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You are incorrect. But, in any case, I DID calibrate the battery just to cover bases in the case that I was wrong.
2. ok, so an app can't run a process at random? especially when you have "over 100 apps"?
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We'll of course it can. That is kinda my point. If I go one app at a time waiting for it to "run a process at random" I am talking literally MONTHS of testing. I would have to wait many hours, if not days after installing or uninstalling an app to be sure whether or not it made a difference, then move on the the next. This is simply not an option. I started this thread in hopes that a realistic and doable solution might exist that I was unaware of.
Run the rom stock and see if it still happens, or even run the stock rom/kernel. if you don't want to try this then why are you asking for suggestions? christ
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I am asking because there may be a solution that I am unaware of that doesn't require me to put my entire life on hold for months. It is possible that there is no such solution, but I asked in case there was one.
Sorry to have put you out so much.
You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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You mentioned you recently installed exchange sync. Did turning off sync remedy this or have you not tried disabling all sync features?
when i did a complete quote and re flash i did not setup the exchange account, but the issue continued.
One other thing to check is the background data usage of your apps. You'd find this under 'data usage' and make sure you enable the wifi tab so you can see data usage on wifi.
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I'll check that out. Thanks.
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My battery also drains at a rate similar to yours however I'm on the CDMA version. Hopefully you can figure out what's going on with yours.
Battery life on this phone is ridiculously good...don't get me wrong. However, I have noticed that overnight sleep battery life is really no better than when the phone is in use. I installed better battery stats and see where my phone is being awakened literally every 10-20 mins by network location locator. I have seen several threads that are not dedicated to this, but have individual posts that do talk about it. I figured I would dedicate a single thread to this issue and hopefully come up with some type of fix. If I have missed the dedicated thread then I do apologize. I do not have GPS on, I have unchecked all location gathering data within Maps, I have unchecked location services within the Google location settings and I have all Facebook location settings and notifications turned off.
Any ideas on what specifically would help alleviate this wakelock? I didn't screenshot it, but I had my phone unplugged overnight for about 6 hours and this service was used for about 1 hr 45 mins.
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Facebook, Google+ or some other social media/location logging app is usually the culprit.
Try this...go to accounts google..then underneath it youll see maps and latitude. .I think you have the second option on..turn it off from that screen this should work for ya..so many location fields..lol
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Try this...go to accounts google..then underneath it youll see maps and latitude. .I think you have the second option on..turn it off from that screen this should work for ya..so many location fields..lol
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Appreciate it, but as I stated in the initial post...I have unchecked all maps and latitude tracking services. It looks like 1% loss every 2 hours during screen off is just something that I'll have to put up with. I know with other Android phones (Nexus and One X) I would only lose 1-2% overnight (8 hours). Not the end of the world, as this phone still gets me through a full day of heavy heavy use easily...just figured I might find another few hours
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Appreciate it, but as I stated in the initial post...I have unchecked all maps and latitude tracking services. It looks like 1% loss every 2 hours during screen off is just something that I'll have to put up with. I know with other Android phones (Nexus and One X) I would only lose 1-2% overnight (8 hours). Not the end of the world, as this phone still gets me through a full day of heavy heavy use easily...just figured I might find another few hours
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It'd be nice to get any kind of fix for this! I'm getting an almost 50% loss to this no matter what I do.
jezaz said:
It'd be nice to get any kind of fix for this! I'm getting an almost 50% loss to this no matter what I do.
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Only way to fix it for the time being is to uncheck "Google location services" under "Locations" in "Settings". The service kicks in via WiFi. Switching it off unfortunately means that other apps (other than Maps) can no longer provide location based services. In short, this bug (at leat that is what I believe it is) is the cause that while on WiFi your phone never reached deep sleep... I hope it will be solved as it is a waste of already valuable energy use...
Have you tried going into apps menu locating Network Location and disabling Notifications kind like disabing push notifications I dont know wild guess but it might do the trick
Hey guys my friend has the vz HTC one and her GPS is always on. I turned her GPS off and even disabled location services. I cannot figure out what is causing this but it's only giving her 1 hour of screen on time. I get over 4 on my att version no way it can be that different. When u go to power in settings and click on the graph it shows a solid blue bar for GPS on. Has anyone else experienced this, and more importantly does anyone know how to fix this? Thanks in advance.
Hmm, that doesn't seem normal. I leave both GPS and location services on all the time and my graph barely shows GPS usage.
This happens even when GPS is manually turned off? Is she running stock?
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Hmm, that doesn't seem normal. I leave both GPS and location services on all the time and my graph barely shows GPS usage.
This happens even when GPS is manually turned off? Is she running stock?
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Yea I know it makes no sense....I do the same GPS is never on for me unless using maps.
Yes she is completely stock. I'm curious if either a wipe is necessary, which she is against or maybe a defective unit.
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Yea I know it makes no sense....I do the same GPS is never on for me unless using maps.
Yes she is completely stock. I'm curious if either a wipe is necessary, which she is against or maybe a defective unit.
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Factory reset really is a pain in the a** but most of the problems I've ever had with Android have been solved with a reset.
Update.....I disabled Verizon location services wiped cache and data re enabled it didn't see her for a couple days and now it's working properly even with GPS on all the time. Not sure if that's what fixed it but it's the only thing I did, and she wouldnt have done anything.
When I first bought the phone, I turned on 4g, then turned it off..
but the 4g icon would stay in the status bar.
I was already at the VZW store for another reason so I went to show a rep, and of coarse, the icon goes away.
bahhh
hope to hear all is well with this!
This is draining my battery. Kept phone awake for almost 100% on time. Anyone else noticing this? Not changed anything. Only thing that has changed is I now have Google Glass, but I dont have them with me today, so it wouldnt be using that.
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This is draining my battery. Kept phone awake for almost 100% on time. Anyone else noticing this? Not changed anything. Only thing that has changed is I now have Google Glass, but I dont have them with me today, so it wouldnt be using that.
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I was having a similar problem with Play Services and Media Services. I installed App Cache Cleaner and set it to auto wipe every hour or so. That fixed the problem (or at least stopped it from draining the battery).
Hope that helps.
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I was having a similar problem with Play Services and Media Services. I installed App Cache Cleaner and set it to auto wipe every hour or so. That fixed the problem (or at least stopped it from draining the battery).
Hope that helps.
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I have disabled use wireless networks in Location Services and all has gone back to normal. Maybe give that a shot and see if that fixes it for you.
Researched this a lot, found some solutions, bad and good fixes and after trying some different twists on it after two days this is what I found to be the best, and I decided since this is just as bad as 4.0/4.1 and the mediaserver battery drain I might as well try and help at least 1 person by mass posting this reply I wrote else where to other threads, so here you go:
"Hey- I don't know if you, or anyone else has found a working solution, but here is the way I found best:
Note- I am on galaxy s4 [sgh-i337] running a 4.4 KitKat rom. I have found the following work around to work best for me:
1 Google now & Hotword detection=OFF,
2 GPS = OFF and turned on only when needed, eg maps/checkin on facebook/whatever needs location.
3 Settings-> Manage Apps -> Google Play Services -> Manage Space -> Clear All Data.
**Optional:After this [root only] I go into KT tweaker and make sure my phone cpu is set to a max of 810 Mhz when screen off.**
This fix usually works until I reset the phone. I ALWAYS follow those 3 steps when rebooting. AND always check that after I've used GPS that Google Play Services isn't keeping my phone awake. [Eg, after 30 minutes I check if the phone ever went to sleep again when the screen was off.] IF it does act up, I repeat steps 1, 2 &3. I still get notifications and all, and this is the least feature disabling way I've found that works with the cost of a little micro-management of your phone.
With this fix I can idle for an estimated 5-6days. As I take off my phone from charge at 8am and at noon with minimal usage [maybe 4 or 5 texts] I am at 97%. With WiFi on & connected.
OTHER: I personally keep NFC&Android beam&Bluetooth OFF, and turn ON when I need it on. Other- WiFi is always ON, and "Scanning Always Available" & "WiFi Optimization" is checked ON for me. And for location mode when I do have it on, I keep it at EDIT: Device only. Using only gps to find my location.
All in all, I hope this gets fixed."
I can post screen shots and all if somebody wants them or if there is need for one
-icy
Okay, this weekend, on a Friday, I drove to DC. As soon as navigation started on my Nexus 6, my watch started to display the navigation notifications. I quickly blocked the app, as I didn't want the 3+ hours of navigation to drain my watch.
2.5 hours into the trip, I look at my watch's battery, and it's down to 30%!!! I started the trip at about 90%. Not happy, very scared about running out of power. Figure out it's a bug, or whatever, and I factory reset that night.
During the weekend, while I'm in DC, I notice that it is not the normal battery life, despite a factory reset Friday night.
On the way home, Sunday, I noticed a huge drain as well. Not wanting to lose any more power, I turn it on AIRPLANE MODE when at 47%.
HERE'S WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING.
I get a notification that says something like "Maps Navigation App stopped." I don't remember the exact phrasing.
However, this leads me to believe that I was experiencing the battery drain because while I was blocking the Maps app, it was still running on my watch! What's up with that? I thought it totally stopped the app.
Am I correct? Does a blocked app still run while the watch despite being blocked?
IF so... how do I "fix" this? Is that possible?
Or, was something else draining my battery?
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Okay, this weekend, on a Friday, I drove to DC. As soon as navigation started on my Nexus 6, my watch started to display the navigation notifications. I quickly blocked the app, as I didn't want the 3+ hours of navigation to drain my watch.
2.5 hours into the trip, I look at my watch's battery, and it's down to 30%!!! I started the trip at about 90%. Not happy, very scared about running out of power. Figure out it's a bug, or whatever, and I factory reset that night.
During the weekend, while I'm in DC, I notice that it is not the normal battery life, despite a factory reset Friday night.
On the way home, Sunday, I noticed a huge drain as well. Not wanting to lose any more power, I turn it on AIRPLANE MODE when at 47%.
HERE'S WHERE IT GETS INTERESTING.
I get a notification that says something like "Maps Navigation App stopped." I don't remember the exact phrasing.
However, this leads me to believe that I was experiencing the battery drain because while I was blocking the Maps app, it was still running on my watch! What's up with that? I thought it totally stopped the app.
Am I correct? Does a blocked app still run while the watch despite being blocked?
IF so... how do I "fix" this? Is that possible?
Or, was something else draining my battery?
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Okay, from another thread I was discussing on Android Central, another user found that Maps and probably other apps weren't totally OFF when the Notification was set to be BLOCKED. Meaning, even though you are Blocking a certain app, it appears that it is still running in the background of the watch, and that is leading to huge drains.
Anybody take any road trips or commuting with their moto360 and using Google Maps notice this?
http://forums.androidcentral.com/mo...ot-battery-drain-google-maps.html#post4317990
I have this exact same issue. I use navigation a few days a week. I'm a new Moto 360 owner, so I thought it was just other battery issues. But it isn't. Its Navigation. Once I start navigation, by battery plummets. I can't stop it. Then the battery usage says that Bluetooth uses the most battery. So I am gonna keep trying different things. Don't factory reset your phone. It doesn't help. Resetting the watch doesn't help either. I think its an issue with Android 5.0.2. But that's a guess. What else can it be?
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I have this exact same issue. I use navigation a few days a week. I'm a new Moto 360 owner, so I thought it was just other battery issues. But it isn't. Its Navigation. Once I start navigation, by battery plummets. I can't stop it. Then the battery usage says that Bluetooth uses the most battery. So I am gonna keep trying different things. Don't factory reset your phone. It doesn't help. Resetting the watch doesn't help either. I think its an issue with Android 5.0.2. But that's a guess. What else can it be?
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THanks for your input, sorry I never replied. I didn't see the notifications.
ANYWAYS, I started a thread here as well...
http://forums.androidcentral.com/mo...cking-apps-not-battery-drain-google-maps.html
It seems it is NOT just a Moto 360 problem, but an ANDROID WEAR problem!?
WHOA. Can anyone else confirm this? If so, if this is an Android Wear problem... does Google know? And how do we let them know?
I have this issue. I drove 3 hours with Google maps navigation today and my watch was dead upon arrival. It was at 95% when I left.
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frellingfrakker said:
I have this issue. I drove 3 hours with Google maps navigation today and my watch was dead upon arrival. It was at 95% when I left.
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Mine also died again after three hours of driving yesterday, and this is with the latest Android Wear update (on the phone). When I tried to charge it, I got constant Google app and Android Wear crashes. I was finally able to reset the watch to get it back to working.
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Mine also died again after three hours of driving yesterday, and this is with the latest Android Wear update (on the phone). When I tried to charge it, I got constant Google app and Android Wear crashes. I was finally able to reset the watch to get it back to working.
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Mine charged back up without an issue but Maps definitely kills the watch even with notifications blocked.
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Thanks everybody. Send in a bug report through the Android wear app.
Does anybody have they latest update on their watch? 5.1.1?
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Mine charged back up without an issue but Maps definitely kills the watch even with notifications blocked.
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Mine has charged up normally before too, in fact it did last night. The one time it didn't was pretty scary though.
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Thanks everybody. Send in a bug report through the Android wear app.
Does anybody have they latest update on their watch? 5.1.1?
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I'd like to know if this is fixed in 5.1.1 too. I'll ask in the Urbane section.
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Mine has charged up normally before too, in fact it did last night. The one time it didn't was pretty scary though.
I'd like to know if this is fixed in 5.1.1 too. I'll ask in the Urbane section.
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YES, definitely do that, thank you!!!