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I'm glad to announce that come this Sunday when the Captivate drops on AT&T I will be done with windows mobile 6.XX for good. Being able to test out the Android OS on my Tilt 2 put the dagger in the heart of Windows Mobile for me. I was skeptical at first, but now I believe that the Android OS is far superior compared to any other mobile OS. I'm sure the developers are working hard on a 100% port, but I'm tossing the Tilt 2, all thanks to a tease. Anyone else in the same boat I am?
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Well, crap, I didn't even see the "Goodbye Rhodium" thread. My bad.
Hells yeah, unfortunately I'm on the sprint network so I have to wait a little bit more. The only reason I wanted to make android work on the TP2 was the size of the phone (I think the Evo is just a little to big for my taste) and the physical keyboard.
Dont feel bad. There are many in your boat. I was pretty skeptical of android myself, but I've also been pretty attached to google for a few years now. It just made sense really. Winmo just isnt getting the support they need to make their product better it seems.
dressanderc said:
I'm glad to announce that come this Sunday when the Captivate drops on AT&T I will be done with windows mobile 6.XX for good. Being able to test out the Android OS on my Tilt 2 put the dagger in the heart of Windows Mobile for me. I was skeptical at first, but now I believe that the Android OS is far superior compared to any other mobile OS. I'm sure the developers are working hard on a 100% port, but I'm tossing the Tilt 2, all thanks to a tease. Anyone else in the same boat I am?
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Well, crap, I didn't even see the "Goodbye Rhodium" thread. My bad.
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I was thinking the same thing as well, until i realized that even if we could use the camera, bluetooth, wifi and sound on the with android... it's just not that great.
I get all the options of android, plus the support and compatibility of windows.
mobileshell and mobilesense allowed me to completely drop the android os.
i dunno, i just hate to see people let go of their rhodiums. best damn phone Ive ever had and guarentee it will be for years to come.
enjoy android. sorry to see another winmo go...
I have agree even though I have moved on from the touch pro 2 the actual phone was amazing I was just gutted it was on windows mobile 6.5 which in my view didn't take advantage of the phone. I wish htc had released an android version of the tp2 rather than just making touch phones this year
Not sure about the rest of you...but, wow, I'm pretty freaking stoked about this pre-Mango....so many awesome features....it's light years ahead of NoDo...It's like NoDo was just trying to calm the masses after a lackluster OS start last year..Mango, on the other hand, well, Microsoft pulled out the big guns for this OS...some of these features are so innovative that they would be out of their minds not to go crazy w/ Mango advertising come this fall (it's hard to believe that they spent that 100 million on advertising all of last year b/c I'd be lying if I said I saw more than one commercial a week near the release date)
Anyway, stupid rant, but, I felt the need to give the Windows Phone Dev team props!
They need to put all that $ into development . This os is still a turd. If it weren't for all the hype I wouldn't be so put off butt all we've been hearing is wait for mango . It's kinda here and...... it still kinda sucks . Putting the surround back in the box till something major changes .
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They need to put all that $ into development . This os is still a turd. If it weren't for all the hype I wouldn't be so put off butt all we've been hearing is wait for mango . It's kinda here and...... it still kinda sucks . Putting the surround back in the box till something major changes .
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Hard to please much? From your signature it looks like you need something which requires hacking / changing on a daily basis. I give you Windows Mobile & Android.
ycode90 said:
They need to put all that $ into development . This os is still a turd. If it weren't for all the hype I wouldn't be so put off butt all we've been hearing is wait for mango . It's kinda here and...... it still kinda sucks . Putting the surround back in the box till something major changes .
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Till something major changes???? Dude what have you been smoking?
What would you consider a major change, what would they have to do to make you not call it a piece of ****? Which it's far from that. This thing rocks! The only complaint I have so far is the task manager, you should have the little x on the corner like in IE to close programs, yes even though they aren't using resources.
Still no SIM Tool Kit and USSD which most dumb phone have. All carriers in my country depend on USSD too much.
My only complaint would be the back button behaviour, or maybe the way WP7 open application itself. When I'm using FB chat, then the screen is locked, then I received message, and press the notification, it will take me to the chat screen. But apparently this is a brand new chat screen, as a result, when I press back button, it took me back to the same chat screen.
this is true?
Just to let you guys know that phones updated with Mango Beta will not be able to update to the Final Mango release. So make a backup first before trying
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yes , you need to have a backup of your phone to go back to nodo when official update come ... otherwise you are doomed
hint: don't try to format you computer LOL
Ms should not have released wp7 at all till it was at least as functional as every other phone on the market . People who actually bought with hard earned money are gonna be severly putt off by its lack.
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Ohh yea pineapple cush
ycode90 said:
Ms should not have released wp7 at all till it was at least as functional as every other phone on the market . People who actually bought with hard earned money are gonna be severly putt off by its lack.
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Ohh yea pineapple cush
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it is functional...it didn't have IM support which it does now
and save from native access its a great OS
It's a good OS . I'm sure it's only gonna get better BUTT.................
IMO it has been released way to early most users are gonna be let down .
I got my surround in trade . I have several phones . The surround stays in it's box most of the time . What does that say ?
This is just my opinion . It's incomplete for retail sale and that is doing bad things to it's credibility as a good OS . It's harder to climb out of a hole than just to walk around even if it means waiting to release . I'm not talking Mango it's beta . I mean the OS all together .
If you go in a retail store they shun you away from the wp phones because of bad reviews and complaints. The sales rep here laughed at me when I asked what he thought of it .
Okay camera , really good media player . Those are the only things I can give it .
Again these are my opinions .
Still better than an iPhone tho .
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It's a good OS . I'm sure it's only gonna get better BUTT.................
IMO it has been released way to early most users are gonna be let down .
I got my surround in trade . I have several phones . The surround stays in it's box most of the time . What does that say ?
This is just my opinion . It's incomplete for retail sale and that is doing bad things to it's credibility as a good OS . It's harder to climb out of a hole than just to walk around even if it means waiting to release . I'm not talking Mango it's beta . I mean the OS all together .
If you go in a retail store they shun you away from the wp phones because of bad reviews and complaints. The sales rep here laughed at me when I asked what he thought of it .
Okay camera , really good media player . Those are the only things I can give it .
Again these are my opinions .
Still better than an iPhone tho .
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It tells me you have extremely poor taste. The OS is not incomplete, Android phones cannot make me coffee in the morning, so I consider them incomplete then. And people turn users away because 95% of people who own an Android have no idea what they're even doing with a phone, let alone the differences with a phone they've never even personally used. Bad reviews? I've seen nothing but positive reviews. Yes, the OS is young & is missing features, people understand that... But the OS is far from incomplete...
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It tells me you have extremely poor taste. The OS is not incomplete, Android phones cannot make me coffee in the morning, so I consider them incomplete then. And people turn users away because 95% of people who own an Android have no idea what they're even doing with a phone, let alone the differences with a phone they've never even personally used. Bad reviews? I've seen nothing but positive reviews. Yes, the OS is young & is missing features, people understand that... But the OS is far from incomplete...
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Lol could not have sead it any better. Lots of people just buy the most advertised phones on tv and think its the best because its on every other advert. Most people i know dont no what a smartphone is so thay go and buy i SGS2 or a ipone4 and use it only as a phone lol as they think its cool. Also as i remember i got the g1 on day 1 and it had pleanty of features missing that most dumb phones have also the iphone was the same so why slam MS for it?
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yes , you need to have a backup of your phone to go back to nodo when official update come ... otherwise you are doomed
hint: don't try to format you computer LOL
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ups, looks like it may be a problem, i hope the backup was automatic when doing pre mango update, otherwise i will probably look for optimus 7 nodo rom.
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ups, looks like it may be a problem, i hope the backup was automatic when doing pre mango update, otherwise i will probably look for optimus 7 nodo rom.
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It backs it up automatically during the Mango beta update, but copy the backup to a secure location just in case something happens to it.
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They need to put all that $ into development . This os is still a turd. If it weren't for all the hype I wouldn't be so put off butt all we've been hearing is wait for mango . It's kinda here and...... it still kinda sucks . Putting the surround back in the box till something major changes .
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This. Poop OS.
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ngagephone said:
Lol could not have sead it any better. Lots of people just buy the most advertised phones on tv and think its the best because its on every other advert. Most people i know dont no what a smartphone is so thay go and buy i SGS2 or a ipone4 and use it only as a phone lol as they think its cool. Also as i remember i got the g1 on day 1 and it had pleanty of features missing that most dumb phones have also the iphone was the same so why slam MS for it?
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Um you slam MS for it because this is years later and a poop OS is no longer acceptable.
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Then allow me to ask the same question that I'm sure y'all have been asked dozens of times, why are you here? Go to the android forums or an iphone blog. Those phones are much better than poor ol' poopy WP7.
Good luck t'ya.
I have a ATT Htc surround and do have hope . I'm no dev . I'm a average user . Just opinions, from an "average user" POV.
I got it installed on my HTC Trophy and know what, there is no way I will roll back unless it's for the final. This upgrade was worth every bit so far, just the features and the perfomance difference sealed the deal for me.
I look forward to the next build...
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Um you slam MS for it because this is years later and a poop OS is no longer acceptable.
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wait and see what this poop OS will do to half F##### android OS, where you have malware on the market place...
MS, Apple, Ericson, Sony.... had bought the Nortel IP box (6000 ip patents) and that will put the Google OS in trouble, as Google or the android OEM will pay much bigger fee to MS and unfortunately apple as well..
and just for your info, MANGO is just the begining, the innovation will not stop here......
android tablets did not take off and now the OEM's are lookoing at MIcrosoft again for the WINDOWS 8..
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/apollo-update-not-coming-to-current-windows-phones
Not looking too promising eh?
I don't think so. First of all, it's too early to say something. Second, if MS will do it, they will completely lost mobile market.
I agree, They aren't doing exactly great at the moment and it would surely destroy them? Time will tell of course but it's interesting all the speculation that goes round before something like this, I hope we do get Apollo or even a lesser version of it, Look at Desktop OS, You have basic through to Ultimate editions although not entirely based on Hardware.
http://wmpoweruser.com/microsoft-ev...handsets-will-be-upgraded-to-windows-phone-8/
No one know what will happen to our handsets. I'd suggest that you read this article.
I know what's gonna happen to mine, It's heading for ebay and I will be returning to a Maxon MN1 lol.
AndyFZ1S said:
I know what's gonna happen to mine, It's heading for ebay and I will be returning to a Maxon MN1 lol.
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oh dear....
lololololol
Hmmm ? http://gizmodo.com/5902860/every-windows-phone-ever-will-get-the-windows-phone-8-upgrade
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Hmmm ? http://gizmodo.com/5902860/every-windows-phone-ever-will-get-the-windows-phone-8-upgrade
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What about this twist in the tale?
http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/windows-phone-8-beta-report-what-features-are-in-place
Stop caring, enjoy your phone's.
All I want is live game streaming, and thats a app.
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vetvito said:
Stop caring, enjoy your phone's.
All I want is live game streaming, and thats a app.
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True man, after the HTC HD 2 saga,,here might come the another one, unfortunately I was one of the victim in HD 2 case. Now,sold my Mozart,bought HTC one X...enjoy the phone...
and care-less about it...
Just enjoy what you have till the end of the year, I highly doubt Apollo is going to be rolling in full force before then. Even if it does, I'd bet even more that some form of Apollo'esque update will also be hitting then for our earlier handsets.
Slower than others
Windows phone updates and upgrades are a lot slower than expected. With the whole world going gaga over Ice cream sandwich and io5, windows better step up.
Pratzgh1 said:
Windows phone updates and upgrades are a lot slower than expected. With the whole world going gaga over Ice cream sandwich and io5, windows better step up.
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Going gaga over Ice what?
None of the old phones but one has got ICS after it's announcement nearly half a year ago. If that is going gaga, MSFT is leap years ahead of that.
iOS5 - give you that. Again they have 1 phone to upgrade. Not 5-6 different OEMs with 2-3 phones each!
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Going gaga over Ice what?
None of the old phones but one has got ICS after it's announcement nearly half a year ago. If that is going gaga, MSFT is leap years ahead of that.
iOS5 - give you that. Again they have 1 phone to upgrade. Not 5-6 different OEMs with 2-3 phones each!
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I see what you did there....
please put your ios statement onto android...
Not only 5-6 OEMs and with 50+phone,tied with various carriers...
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Stop caring, enjoy your phone's.
All I want is live game streaming, and thats a app.
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Well said Vetvito,
No doubt we will all end up with the best bit of kit available at the time, personally it will hardly be the end of my world. Besides M$ have been playing this game for years and years, they know their roadmap and we along with the (slow news day) media dont ever have a clue.
There has always been speculation and a healthy amount of bull floating about regarding any update for any O/S or platform........but still i have a Windows phone........shocker huh.
Have a little faith, they havn't exactly shot you in the face yet and they arn't about to knowingly lose money/customer base now are they.
Kind Regards,
Creamy
Yeah it seems even theVerge is now getting on the Apollo updates might actually be happening road
Microsoft has a history of ****ing up successful lines , remember XP? They decided the time was right to migrate to Vista and cut off support to there "flagship" , that really worked out in there benefit considering more than half of all Windows users are still using XP , XP is 10 years old!!
Personaly I did migrate and am using 7-64 , but dumping the wp7 line for wp8 will alienate all of us who already got onboard , Im dev/interop unlocked , custom rom and if I cant get a custom rom with the update ,I will leave for Android and never look back , my Acer a500 is a year old now and it is better than anything being sold now because I can upgrade /downgrade do anything I want with it , the sky is the limit! In Microsofts world even the sky has limits!
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Microsoft has a history of ****ing up successful lines , remember XP?
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Mmm yeah. It's still the most widely used OS in the world. Not sure how it's F'd up. My parents use it all the time. No complaints.
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Personaly I did migrate and am using 7-64 , but dumping the wp7 line for wp8 will alienate all of us who already got onboard
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Mmm... If XP is any indication I will be using Windows 7 happily for years until I upgrade to whatever comes out after Windows 8. Windowss 8 is going to have zero impact on my computer use for years.
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if I cant get a custom rom with the update ,I will leave for Android and never look back
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MS doesn't care. They sell millions of phones to a bunch of people that will NEVER update them no matter what they offer. The problem is this place is one big geek circle jerk. MS and Nokia want to sell phones to teenage girls and business people. As long as the phone looks cool and covers the basic functions both groups are happy. They are not 20 something male software developers. They just want to text, email, talk, check the weather and play angry birds. The business people also want MS office and some kind of enterprise email calender solution.
They don't want to flash a custom ROM or root a device. If you want to see how the average consumer interacts with tech check out my post HERE.
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Windows phone updates and upgrades are a lot slower than expected. With the whole world going gaga over Ice cream sandwich and io5, windows better step up.
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The majority of people I know think "Ice Cream Sandwich" is a desert. This may come as a shock but the majority of smartphone owners to do not hang out on XDA. They do things like go to the park and get some sunlight and fresh air.
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Microsoft has a history of ****ing up successful lines , remember XP? They decided the time was right to migrate to Vista and cut off support to there "flagship" , that really worked out in there benefit considering more than half of all Windows users are still using XP , XP is 10 years old!!
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Just to be clear, they didn't cut support for xp until midway through 2010, and this wasn't to abandon xp for vista. It was after windows 7 was released. They didn't "force" people to use vista, they released something far superior to it, THEN forced you to use it, haha.
Edit: thanks for the next poster correcting this, Microsoft still supports XP and will for two more years.
If MSFT were to enter the WP8 game with Windows Surface Phone or MSFT Surface Phones range would you buy it?
Just a wild wild dream.. because:
a) The launch of surface range has created a buzz on even iForums and DroidForums.
b) The tech guys generally have liked it
c) It has met the hype
d) It looks sexy and we know it will perform much better than we think
e) Windows branding might be the reason for no traction, Surface branding seems to be taken positively
so.. could Windows Phone 8 be the Microsoft Surface Phones? or just Surface Phones?
PS: I love the Surfaces (will get one on the release day!) and whole heartedly hope the new new new iPad doesn't copy Surface and come up with the same and better pad.
Why do we know it will work better than we think?
Probably because WP7 worked alot better than people gave it credit for .
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makoute said:
Why do we know it will work better than we think?
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Probably because WP7 worked alot better than people gave it credit for .
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^^ That.
I don't care what they call it. All I'm hoping for tomorrow is the tiles with the ability to change their sizes, and the tiles with real information like the mail tile in Windows 8.
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I don't necessarily know if I'd go for the Surface, but I am excited for a Win8 tablet from Nokia.
Anseio you should be excited even for Surface. Even Vetvito is swayed by Surface. If it can please Vetvito, it can please any WP user
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Anseio you should be excited even for Surface. Even Vetvito is swayed by Surface. If it can please Vetvito, it can please any WP user
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Don't get me wrong... I'm thrilled about Surface
I would just prefer a Nokia... I like the aesthetics they design.
I'm definately tempted by the RT version of Surface especially if it gets priced correctly
There is one important difference between "Surface" Devices by Microsoft and "Nexus" Devices by Google. The Nexus devices have the benefit of being updated more regularly and earlier than competitors devices. It is highly unlikely that Microsoft will push update to their devices earlier. For Windows 8 it is a given that those will get Updates the same time everyone else does (second tuesday every month) and WinRT is likely to do it the same way.
And as Microsoft succeeded at least with Mango to push it worldwide around the same time I guess they would not stray from that path with new Windows Phones.
Given the partnership between Microsoft and Nokia I believe they will be relying on Nokia for their lead devices, given that Nokia has an All In Approach to the OS.
So I don't see it happening and if it were it would be a really good question why I would go with the Surface Phone instead of a Nokia (unless they build something that blows a PureView Nokia out of the water).
they gonna charge $600 and $800 for the thing... i think it is a way better deal than an iPad.
http://wmpoweruser.com/digitimes-microsoft-surface-rt-to-be-599-surface-pro-799/
I am looking at Samsung Slate Series also. They had some quite "wow" device at the Windows 8 Release Preview Launch.
keynote
watch the keynote from 13:30 to 14:30.
either the hardware is underperforming or the software is still beta.
neat concept. too bad about the bootloader.
Its still Beta, even the consumer preview has some major quirks.
One big issue is gaming and swiping, swipe anywhere near the top of the screen and you'll bring up the multi tasking window, thus ruining your game.
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I am looking it in a way what Steve said "Harmony of software with hardware". Can Nokia really know better hardware for MSFT software than MSFT itself? They are only partners after all. Also, am I the only one who thinks Surface devices are going to stand out in the sea of Lumias? However, Nokia do come up with plenty of classy designs from time to time.
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I'm in love again, I can't wait to get my hands on WP8, most of the stuff I wanted is finally here!
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I have to say this, WP7 was a complete disgrace, especially the launch OS.
With WP8 competition can really begin
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I'm in love again, I can't wait to get my hands on WP8, most of the stuff I wanted is finally here!
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I'm excited, too! When Joe started to talk about the "new" start screen, I got worried. When they showed it, I screamed "YES!!!"
anseio said:
I'm excited, too! When Joe started to talk about the "new" start screen, I got worried. When they showed it, I screamed "YES!!!"
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Oh boy... i know what i want for Christmas this year... and now is all about what OEM can bring to us.
I was saving for a unlocked Galaxy Nexus, not anymore.
Bye Bye Android, it was fun. Back to my original love.
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Guys please post all the links you can find.
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I wanted to give windows another try so I got another, after a week with this phone is boring! Marketplace sucks, limited apps, no smart dailing, can't disable SMS notifications, the list goes on and on. (Damn you android you've spoiled me!)
Over is the best designed phone I've own thus far. I've fell in love with Zune desktop, but the player on the phone is so so, needs equalizing for better sound. Maybe I'll be Lumia 920 a try.
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I like L900. My second WP after HTC Trophy. I am just surprised to know that your music needs equalizer to sound better ? I never have any issues. Smart Dialing is there, you pin the person to the start screen for quick access. The Marketplace has good amount of apps ( and good apps ). Don't know if L920 will make your experience any better if you have so many complains about the platform.
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I wanted to give windows another try so I got another, after a week with this phone is boring! Marketplace sucks, limited apps, no smart dailing, can't disable SMS notifications, the list goes on and on. (Damn you android you've spoiled me!)
Over is the best designed phone I've own thus far. I've fell in love with Zune desktop, but the player on the phone is so so, needs equalizing for better sound. Maybe I'll be Lumia 920 a try.
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I totally agree with you...
I got my Lumia 900 while my Galaxy Note was on warranty repairs and just to see what was the deal with Windows Phone 7.5 (after many years since I last used Windows Mobile Professional) and at first it was a nice experience after using Android, but after 30 minutes I consumed the whole OS and found it very boring and lacking.
Yes, I think Android got us really spoiled...
Right now I'm just waiting for WP 7.8 just to check it out (I know, I'm not expecting much either), but I know I will sell this baby really soon!
If at least we could root it and modify it like the Lumia 800, then I might keep it. But since the AT&T Lumia 900 modding scene is pretty much defunct, i don't expect things to change for the good, so Craigslist is the way to go.
Cheers!
Rayan
Man I miss my galaxy note, I switched it for S3. I hope 7.8 features are nice.
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I like L900. My second WP after HTC Trophy. I am just surprised to know that your music needs equalizer to sound better ? I never have any issues. Smart Dialing is there, you pin the person to the start screen for quick access. The Marketplace has good amount of apps ( and good apps ). Don't know if L920 will make your experience any better if you have so many complains about the platform.
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Trust me if your're a music head you will tell the difference. Im not sure if its Lumia or windows music player but its real bland with a cool interface.
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