Confused - Do I Have All This Right??? - Defy General

I have spent a few hours reading the forums and getting understand things, but one never knows if one really understand things until one summarizes it themselves and asks others to confirm it. So, my situation and summary are below. Do I understand???
I live in South Korea and got the MB525. I like it very much, but I have SK Mobile. The last straw came when they installed even more stuff on my phone (like Korean social network programmes) without my permission, using some form of auto-update even though I had that disabled, and now will not even let me turn off auto update on those programmes. Also had a problem on a trip to Malaysia where the Korean emergency number (119) was the customer service number for Maxis - hence calling customer service got me the fire department!! I am just tired of having so many junk programmes on my phone and not having real control over the phone.
The phone runs 2.1-update1 and I would like to instal a generic version of 2.2 or 2.3 (that is cy7, an unofficial version of 2.3 right). I would like a version that is not country specific, but in English. By doing all this I hope to be able to have complete control over my phone, not have troubles using it internationally (sim is already unlocked but things like emergency numbers being programmed in), and be able to install and uninstall any programmes. I hope that by doing this SK Mobile will not be able to install any of their own software and that I can uninstall anything I do not like. I do not think I need moto-blur (do I???), so a version without that is better, I think.
While new to phone technology, I am good with computers and have my own web site, so I think I have the ability to do the upgrade per the 'All in one Defy Beginners guide' (Serious thanks for that). I'm sure I can figure out how to flash it properly, so no worries there.
My first question is what version/package would others recommend so that I have an English version that works internationally / meets my requirements. My second question is do I understand thing right above and am I on track, and my third question is what am I not thinking of?
Thanks a lot, and sorry for such a long post but too much is new all at once.
TME

haha... yes CM7.1/MIUI or pretty much the other roms wont give you any trouble using it internationally, and yes if you install cm7.1 they(SK mobile) wont be able to 'update' your phone... and yes just follow the guides carefully and your good to go... Good Luck

Since your phone is for SK, then I'm sure that most of the ROMs in here won't have no problem with your Defy.
I suggest CM7 for the function, and MIUI for the theme lovers.
DeBlur is absolutely, since that function just make troubles instead of goodies. Emergency Calling ? Um... not tried editting yet.

OK, thanks for the help above
But, next question. My phone runs 2.1 - update 1, but is I think Eclair version. I bought it in Dec, 2010. I have decided my first step is to upgrade to 2.2 and see how that goes.
But from the how to guide the bit below is very confusing:
CG Version 2: SBF 2.21 / 2.34 / Chinese (Éclair)
CG Version 3: SBF 2.51 (Éclair)
CG Version 4: SBF 3.4.2 (Froyo)
CG Version 5: SBF 4.5.0 / 4.5.1 (Gingerbread)
How do I relate version numbers listed on my phone (2.1) to the list above? I assume I want 3.4.2 but how can I understand version numbers so i do not make a mistake?
As my goal is to upgrade to a version that I can downgrade to 2.1 if needed for warranty reasons, I need a fixed SBF for Froyo. Can anyone give me a specific link to such a SBF version?
Thanks and sorry for all the questions. The learning curve is a bit steep.
TME

teachmeenglish said:
OK, thanks for the help above
But, next question. My phone runs 2.1 - update 1, but is I think Eclair version. I bought it in Dec, 2010. I have decided my first step is to upgrade to 2.2 and see how that goes.
But from the how to guide the bit below is very confusing:
CG Version 2: SBF 2.21 / 2.34 / Chinese (Éclair)
CG Version 3: SBF 2.51 (Éclair)
CG Version 4: SBF 3.4.2 (Froyo)
CG Version 5: SBF 4.5.0 / 4.5.1 (Gingerbread)
How do I relate version numbers listed on my phone (2.1) to the list above? I assume I want 3.4.2 but how can I understand version numbers so i do not make a mistake?
As my goal is to upgrade to a version that I can downgrade to 2.1 if needed for warranty reasons, I need a fixed SBF for Froyo. Can anyone give me a specific link to such a SBF version?
Thanks and sorry for all the questions. The learning curve is a bit steep.
TME
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Why don't you upgrade from official site.....
can you provide link to the guide you mentioned...

Root your phone (using superoneclick), install 2nd init, after that just flash CM7.1, no need to worry about sbf for CM7, although there is a recommended base ROM, im using it just fine flashing it over my original rom... dont know about others though...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054447

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New to Motorola Defy

Hi Guys,
Previously I have had a HTC Magic, Vario II and Vario III. Am used to easy flashing and updates lol.
I know Moto have got a locked bootloader (seen the news about possible unlocking coming) however I could not resist the Defy as T-Mobile UK gave me a fantastic deal.
T-Mobile handsets come "customised" something that is not popular with me will probably debrand it.
1st question, can I flash back to the branded firmware if it needs to go back to T-Mob?
2nd question there is alot of talk over 2.51 normally I would automatically upgrade to the latest ROM however am unsure if it is worth it?
Cheers,
The easiset thing you could do it so make a nandroid backup of your current setup and then try what ever SBF you want except for 2.51 (this due to the fact that it has a non downgrable bootloader).
I bought a german defy and I installed the 2.31 firmware which I'm happy with. Since then I have also deodexed the system files and removed some apps that I dont need.
Just read through the faq/guides sections of the development board and you will be fine.
If you're new to the Defy, this guide is indispensable.
I links to a series of other guides but it lays them out in the order you should do them and the author also adds his own little notes which are very helpful.
Personally, I flashed the 2.34 ROM as it's got less Blur crap on it.
There are also Froyo ROMs kicking around but they're basically backups from other people's phones, as opposed to proper builds released by Motorola.

[Q] Confused noob seeks enlightenment

Hi there,
I have a Motorola Defy on Vodafone UK, that has just had the Vodafone Froyo update. I have tried to find an answer to my question, but no joy.
I would like to get rid of the Vodafone software and use the UK retail version, as then my phone would work as advertised. Unfortunately I get confused by all the different software identifiers on my phone, and wondered if someone would be kind enough to explain what bits could/should be updated.
When I look at Settings/About Phone I see the following
System Version: Details removed to allow posting
Firmware version: 2.2.2
Baseband Version: EPU93_U_00.59.02
Kernel Version: Details removed to allow posting
BPflex version: UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R
APflex version: GAS_EMEA_USAJRDNFRYOVFGB_P021
I had to remove the software file identifiers to be able to post this, but the phone has just had the latest Vodafone Froyo update applied. Hopefully someone will still be able to help by explaining what the titles mean.
I have successfully rooted my phone with SuperOneClick, but am just trying to get a bit more more understanding before I do anything stupid. I quite like the idea of CM7, but think that may be a bit advanced for me, so will perhaps stick with the UK retail Motorola Froyo once I am sure I know what I'm doing.
Thanks
As you have rooted it yet you could delete app with titanium backup from the market.
I can say i have installed custom roms on my defy a few days after i got it, just follow the faq and how to post and you won't damage anything.
Btw, if something goes wrong you'll find help on this forum anyway...

[Flash SBF] Telstra AU 3.4.2_145-012

JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_145-012
RSD Lite File Properties:
Code:
Filename: JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_145-012_BLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_USAJRDNEMARAB1B5TEL03B.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYOTELSTRA_P013_A007_M003_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf
Creation Date: 03/23/2011 02:55:46
File size: 378300802
RAM DL Version: v0x001000
Bootloader Version: -------------
Platform: 4G OMAP
HAB Type: Signed Production
Official Froyo 2.2 (2.2.2) SBF for Telstra Australia.
Contains BLUR and other useless Telstra Apps.
Useful to restore if you need to do a warranty repair & you have previously upgraded to a 2.2 ROM using Full SBF (Otherwise downgrading to the 2.1 Official SBF might be difficult).
MD5 hash: 80814f03007db1a8bf97483c0529a6f4
New Download Link 22/4/12: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umt...TELSTRA_P013_A007_M003_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.gz
from: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/umts_jordan/list.php via. http://and-developers.com/sbf:defy
PS: The download mirror doesn't seem very reliable, going up and down. If you can't connect, just keep trying for 10-15 minutes and please mirror it!
Thanks mate! Greatly appreciated. Time to get my phone sent off for blue-tick upgrade and wanted to flash stock ROM just in case.
What's the blue tick upgrade do?
senergy said:
What's the blue tick upgrade do?
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Telstra Moto Defy's were originally marketed as Blue Tick compliant handsets which means Telstra's testing has shown that they offer superior coverage in rural areas. Basically, between the time Telstra did this testing and graded the phone as blue tick, and the time the phone actually went on sale, Moto changed the hardware spec of the phone slightly. This hardware change resulted in the Defy falling just below Blue Tick standards. Telstra was initially unaware of the hardware change and continued to market Defy as a blue tick handset. Telstra then discovered the issue and basically offered customers who had purchased a Defy up to that time to send their phone back to Motorola to have their hardware changed back to that original spec that was blue tick complaint.
So the Blue Tick upgrade improves the coverage of the Defy slightly.
Clear as mud?
lobie81 said:
Telstra Moto Defy's were originally marketed as Blue Tick compliant handsets which means Telstra's testing has shown that they offer superior coverage in rural areas. Basically, between the time Telstra did this testing and graded the phone as blue tick, and the time the phone actually went on sale, Moto changed the hardware spec of the phone slightly. This hardware change resulted in the Defy falling just below Blue Tick standards. Telstra was initially unaware of the hardware change and continued to market Defy as a blue tick handset. Telstra then discovered the issue and basically offered customers who had purchased a Defy up to that time to send their phone back to Motorola to have their hardware changed back to that original spec that was blue tick complaint.
So the Blue Tick upgrade improves the coverage of the Defy slightly.
Clear as mud?
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Yes, correct.
In addition to this I want to add that I spoke to Motorola to get my Blue Tick upgrade, the rep told me that there is a misconception that the Blue Tick issue can be corrected with the 2.2 update, which is NOT true, as it is a Hardware issue.
He also told me that the hardware component that needs replacing to fix this issue, is also the same component responsible for the Speaker issue (which could potentially affect all Defy's sooner or later if does not have the hardware fix). So by getting the Blue Tick upgrade you are killing two birds with one stone to get better reception and prevent the Speaker issue.
Will this work on the Telstra Atrix?
I returned my defy because of severe screen locking and other strange behavior (worse after blue tick upgrade and froyo update) but the reception on the blue tick atrix is consistently 10 to 20dBm worse than the defy was....any one else had that?
thanks mate will come in handy. do you know if its possible to downgrade from 2.3.4 to this rom? cheers
should be included here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:defy
i only saw australia optus 2.2.2 but not telstra
Nicholox said:
Will this work on the Telstra Atrix?
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No
tom11 said:
thanks mate will come in handy. do you know if its possible to downgrade from 2.3.4 to this rom? cheers
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It you flashed using a full SBF rather than a Fixed SBF+nandroid, then I don't think that it is not possible to go fully back to stock at the moment. You will need to wait until Telstra have an official 2.3.4 ROM for the Defy (if ever) or the Bootloader is unlocked.
jh20 said:
should be included here:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:defy
i only saw australia optus 2.2.2 but not telstra
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I can't find any contact details to get this list updated.
I will be able to downgrade?
Hi! I have my Defy with the original ROM that comes with it (34.4.709.MB525.Movistar.en.01 - 3.4.2-107_JDNL-9) and it come with Froyo 2.2.1, I have made a Nandroid backup, and now, I want to flash my phone with this Froyo 2.2.2 ROM, but I have read that if I install non-fixed ROM's (like this one) I DON'T WILL BE ABLE TO DOWNGRADE AGAIN.
So, my question is: If I flash my Defy with this ROM (Froyo 2.2.2), I'll be able to downgrade to Froyo 2.2.1 without troubles? (for warranty purposes).
Thank you so much for reply!
And sorry if I have grammatical errors, my native language is Spanish. Bye!
Any chance someone could repost this somewhere? I have a Telstra phone, but did a one-way upgrade to T-Mob Froyo, and now can't get it to upgrade to the official Telstra Froyo. 'twould be most helpful.
Cheers.
Replacement link?
Hi Guys,
The multiupload link is dead, does anyone have a copy of the sbf or an alternative download link?
Cheers
I'm looking for this sbf also. Can anybody post an updated link?
Cheers.
snslogic said:
I'm looking for this sbf also. Can anybody post an updated link?
Cheers.
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if anyone can tell me a fast site to upload i will. i tried mediafire but it's going to take ages (>1hr) so i gave up.......
mediafire is a little faster today. so here it is:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4v7vowbv2vn3olu
Thanks mate. Really appreciate it.
Thanks !! for the ROM!
Sorry guys, I didn't realise that the link went dead. If it happens again (since all the file sharing sites are dropping off since MU went down) send me a PM and I will reupload.
I have been informed that the repost is dead too. Can anyone suggest a host for XDA ROMs since all the Megaupload-like sites are dropping out? If I made a torrent, I don't have a machine running 24/7 that can seed it out.
If anyone needs it urgently before I new host becomes clear send me a PM and I will find a way to send it to you. Same applies if you are willing to host it.
The Land of Smeg said:
Can anyone suggest a host for XDA ROMs since all the Megaupload-like sites are dropping out?
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I recommend Dropbox. You get 2 GB for signing up. If you sign up through the link in my sig, you'll get 2.25 and then there are some tweeks to extend it more.
P.S. I can host it too, as my Dropbox is 28GB

[Q] Questions about curious debranding results

Last night I managed to de-brand my HTC Wildfire from Vodafone to HTC Generic firmware downloaded from shipped-roms.
The procedure seems to be a success, but I noticed something really weird - my Vodafone ES rom was version 2.24, while the HTC one is version 2.22. I checked for an update from the phone after that but no updates were available.
Is this the latest official version? (I know of some cases where companies change the version number just because they added their own apps/logos in the phone)
The procedure I followed was:
Install HTC Sync
Create a Gold Card
Downloaded the latest WWE rom I found on shipped-roms (RUU_Buzz_Froyo_HTC_WWE_2.22.405.1_Radio_13.55.55.24H_3.35.20.10_release_160191_signed.exe)
Ran the installer and waited for it to finish
Thanks in advance for any replies.
P.S. using gold card doesn't root my phone right? (I don't want it to be rooted at this point, so I thought I'd ask)
It's normal. All different carrier branded ROM's have their own version numbers, and the WWE ROM has the lowest build number among these (i.e . 2.22), Most probably, since it was the first one to be released.
And no, you are not rooted, so don't worry about it.
3xeno said:
It's normal. All different carrier branded ROM's have their own version numbers, and the WWE ROM has the lowest build number among these (i.e . 2.22), Most probably, since it was the first one to be released.
And no, you are not rooted, so don't worry about it.
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Oh pretty neat I guess.
Any recommendations on which ROM should I keep?
In the past I was always advised to use stock firmware on smartphones, but not sure about the case with modern ones.
Since you don't want to have root at this point of time, you will have to stick with the Stock ROM. If it works fine for your needs, I would say go for it, but, if you feel the need to experiment / mod, then definitely give ROMs like Cyanogenmod 7 and other Gingerbread a try. Or, if so inclined, you can go for Sense based ROMs as well, which look and feel like the Stock ROM, but with various tweaks, improvements, features and optimizations.

Brick or not brick? Help please T_T

Hello! I am sorry to get all of you into this mess with me just with my first thread. I´ll explain my current problem...
I was on CM 7.1, wanted to install Defy+ rom from Walter79, i did everything as the post explains but after installing fixed sbf, the phone just stays on M logo, make some intent to pass it and gives me the bootloader screen with this error err:a5, 70, 00, 00 ,2F... If someone can help me, please, i´ll appreciate a lot. Thanks from Argentina.
You will call me newbie, and you´ll be right xD.
Are you sure you flashed the fixed sbf? When did you get this error? After flashing a froyo rom? If yes, you flashed the full sbf.
Well, thank you for your reply! Lucky as smart, i try to find my original SBF, i went back to Froyo and then i did it again but directly from there...i choose again a new Defy rom with buttonfix from the Walter79´s folder (from do not which uploader) and try it again. But when i use the same fixed-sbf, i got stuck on the same loop...i flashed it again but with the fixed-sbf for the SOC green camera. It worked and now i am done.
Assistance in updating android 2.1 "Motorola Defy"
hi suguson
you look like you know a lot of thing
i have Moto Defy i think it's "green leans" and:
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System version:
Blur_Version.2.51.1.MB525.Orange.en.FR
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Model number:
MB525
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Firmware:
2.1-update1
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Baseband version:
EPU93ST2_U_03.0A.01
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Kernel version:
2.6.29
[email protected] #1
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BPflex version:
USAJRDNEMARAB1B8ORAFR030.0R
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APflex version:
GAS_EMEA_USAJORDANORAFR_P028
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Build number:
JRDNEM_U3_2.51.1
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---i just want to update my android to higher and i'm confusin how to do it/is it safe/what's the right rom and method/...
---i was in other foroums but i got nothing, some guy told me you have to flash is SBF, and others said don't do it, and some say...i don know...
---i little confusing between installing ROM directly and flashing, so what's the difference?
---When should i flash or just should install update.zip?
thank you
Well, thanks for your confidence, i do not know a lot, but i am learning on the middle, i have read a lot and i feel able to help you, nobody helped me because i have made stupid questions :S...
Well, you said you want to update your Eclair to a new fresh platform ...but how high do you want to go? Do you know about the capabilities of the higher android versions? Plus...what do you want? I went from official 2.2 to CM7.1 wasn´t bad, it were very stable and fluid, a lot of customizations but non BLUR...so i decided to keep the most original GB as i can. So now i am on the Defy+ some some 1321.
I guess that first at all, if you want to go upgrade you should taste 2.2 anyways to go high.
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537 and when you decide to go, i will help you if you want .
first root your defy,install 2nd init then chose which rom is better for you taste you may tray CM7 or CM9 or walters79 roms if you like blur stuff.
read this thread it may help you a lot!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
suguson said:
Well, thanks for your confidence, i do not know a lot, but i am learning on the middle, i have read a lot and i feel able to help you, nobody helped me because i have made stupid questions :S...
Well, you said you want to update your Eclair to a new fresh platform ...but how high do you want to go? Do you know about the capabilities of the higher android versions? Plus...what do you want? I went from official 2.2 to CM7.1 wasn´t bad, it were very stable and fluid, a lot of customizations but non BLUR...so i decided to keep the most original GB as i can. So now i am on the Defy+ some some 1321.
I guess that first at all, if you want to go upgrade you should taste 2.2 anyways to go high.
Check this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537 and when you decide to go, i will help you if you want .
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thank you a lot
-but my problem is "after all that flashing/updating/going higher. i get no network"
and lot of many famous Apps cant help me, what do you think now
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mckarty said:
first root your defy,install 2nd init then chose which rom is better for you taste you may tray CM7 or CM9 or walters79 roms if you like blur stuff.
read this thread it may help you a lot!! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1216982
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thank you a lot
-but my problem is "after all that flashing/updating/going higher. i get no network"
and lot of many famous Apps cant help me, what do you think now
thank you a lot
-but my problem is "after all that flashing/updating/going higher. i get no network"
and lot of many famous Apps cant help me, what do you think now[/QUOTE]
if you install any CM7 or CM9 try to use base band switcher to get you cell on the right GSM network .
if you install any other rom you can edit the APN on your cell MENU>SETTINGS>WIRELESS & NETWORKS>MOBILE NETWORKS>ACCESS PIONT NAMES >MENU>NEW APN
Search on google the APN for your service provider.
if it help you hit the thanks at the end .
Install the 5/03/2012 quraks versión of CM 9 it comes with baseband switcher (on advanced settings) select argentina 900 2100 or something like that and then Google your Internet provider Apn and configure them (the last message shows how to do that )and you are done
Enviado desde mi MB525 usando Tapatalk
Like that guy said, the problem is very common if you upgrade your firmware, if you got a network problem, install Defy_Baseband Switcher and choose the one for your country. Unless you live in a country not included on it, what would be a mess but i trust that you can do it.
thanks guys for every things i'm now:
- Motorola defy
- CM7 "latest nightly" (04/03/2012) firmware 2.3.7
<works 100% no bugs for me>
thanks guys for every things i'm now:
- Motorola defy
- CM7 "latest nightly" (04/03/2012) firmware 2.3.7
<works 100% no bugs for me>

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